Riot Police Use Tear Gas, Water Cannons Against Refugees in Hungary

by Guest Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

police giving back some tear gas

http://abcnews.go.com/International/riot-police-tear-gas-water-cannons-refugees-hungary/story?id=33797603

by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:32 pm

Then they complain about having to go to camps. Well where are they supposed to go? Should residents be kicked out of their homes so the refugees can be moved in?

by SEXY MAMA Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:35 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Then they complain about having to go to camps. Well where are they supposed to go? Should residents be kicked out of their homes so the refugees can be moved in?

No and that would be immoral wouldn't it?

But that's exactly what Israel did from 1945!

by Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:35 pm

Irn Bru wrote:What would Serbia do for them?

The Siege of Sarajevo

The Srebrenica massacre

Look them up - Genocide

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Not Jews during WWII but the Bosnian Muslims in Serbia 20 years ago. Estimated at about 1 million deaths.

by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:35 pm

Christie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Wrong... you do the best you can within that safe country... then if you want to go somewhere else then you do it by the rules like everyone else has to... you get a passport and apply to countries for visas and permission to travel there etc!!!

Not if you're a refugee you don't.

To claim asylum in Europe, refugees have to get here first. To travel by ordinary lawful routes, these people are required to obtain visas. And there are no visas available for those who are seeking asylum.

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/truth-about-refugees#.VfshL1UVikq

They are coming from a country of safety and which they were already accepted into so no longer fleeing war or danger... just using it as an excuse... economic migrants!!!

And a mob of law breaking illegal immigrants who need to be rounded up and returned to turkey.

Don't you idiots realise that once you start to allow this type of thing, you will start off multiple millions of people from all over the world thinking they can just steam into where ever they choose in huge mobs!!!???

Have you completely lost all touch with common sense and reality!!!???

by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:36 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Then they complain about having to go to camps. Well where are they supposed to go? Should residents be kicked out of their homes so the refugees can be moved in?

No and that would be immoral wouldn't it?

But that's exactly what Israel did from 1945!

So why are they complaining about having to go to camps then?

by SEXY MAMA Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:37 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

No and that would be immoral wouldn't it?

But that's exactly what Israel did from 1945!

So why are they complaining about having to go to camps then?

Got a link so I can read it?

by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:37 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Christie wrote:

Not if you're a refugee you don't.

To claim asylum in Europe, refugees have to get here first. To travel by ordinary lawful routes, these people are required to obtain visas. And there are no visas available for those who are seeking asylum.

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/truth-about-refugees#.VfshL1UVikq

They are coming from a country of safety and which they were already accepted into so no longer fleeing war or danger... just using it as an excuse... economic migrants!!!

And a mob of law breaking illegal immigrants who need to be rounded up and returned to turkey.

Don't you idiots realise that once you start to allow this type of thing, you will start off multiple millions of people from all over the world thinking they can just steam into where ever they choose in huge mobs!!!???

Have you completely lost all touch with common sense and reality!!!???

I think this is the fear behind the feelings and behaviour of some countries Tommy - tip of the iceberg sort of thing.

by Irn Bru Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:38 pm

sassy wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:What would Serbia do for them?

The Siege of Sarajevo

The Srebrenica massacre

Look them up - Genocide

Not Jews during WWII but the Bosnian Muslims in Serbia 20 years ago. Estimated at about 1 million deaths.

Just 20 years ago last month it was. It was awful. Men and young boys selected and put to death in mass graves.

by Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Christie wrote:

Not if you're a refugee you don't.

To claim asylum in Europe, refugees have to get here first. To travel by ordinary lawful routes, these people are required to obtain visas. And there are no visas available for those who are seeking asylum.

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/truth-about-refugees#.VfshL1UVikq

They are coming from a country of safety and which they were already accepted into so no longer fleeing war or danger... just using it as an excuse... economic migrants!!!

And a mob of law breaking illegal immigrants who need to be rounded up and returned to turkey.

Don't you idiots realise that once you start to allow this type of thing, you will start off multiple millions of people from all over the world thinking they can just steam into where ever they choose in huge mobs!!!???

Have you completely lost all touch with common sense and reality!!!???

FFS read this again and let it sink in this time!!!!!

There is no legal requirement for a refugee to claim asylum in any particular country

Neither the 1951 Refugee Convention nor EU law requires a refugee to claim asylum in one country rather than another.

There is no rule requiring refugees to claim in the first safe country in which they arrive.

The EU does run a system – called the Dublin Regulations – which allows one EU country to require another to accept responsibility for an asylum claim where certain conditions apply.

The relevant conditions include that the person is shown to have previously entered that other EU country or made a claim there. This is supposed to share responsibility for asylum claims more equitably among EU countries and discourage people moving on from one EU country to another. But it doesn’t work.

It is clear the system greatly benefits countries like the UK and is very unfair to countries like Greece and Italy. That’s part of the reason Germany has just suspended the Dublin Regulations when dealing with people fleeing from Syria.

by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:40 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So why are they complaining about having to go to camps then?

Got a link so I can read it?

A link to what? The refugees in Hungary didn't want to go to camps there. There are numerous articles about complaints re camps.

by Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:41 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
sassy wrote:

Not Jews during WWII but the Bosnian Muslims in Serbia 20 years ago. Estimated at about 1 million deaths.

Just 20 years ago last month it was. It was awful. Men and young boys selected and put to death in mass graves.

Something that sticks in my memory. Although only 11, I also remember when Hungarians were refugees, and my Nan and Grandad had Jewish refugees in their home during the war.

by SEXY MAMA Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:42 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Got a link so I can read it?

A link to what? The refugees in Hungary didn't want to go to camps there. There are numerous articles about complaints re camps.

I'm not aware of this hence why I asked for a link

Do you have one then?

by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:43 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

A link to what? The refugees in Hungary didn't want to go to camps there. There are numerous articles about complaints re camps.

I'm not aware of this hence why I asked for a link

Do you have one then?

Just Google it. When the refugees were on trains in Hungary, they wouldn't get off because they didn't want to go to a camp.

by SEXY MAMA Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:45 pm

sassy wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:

Just 20 years ago last month it was. It was awful. Men and young boys selected and put to death in mass graves.

Something that sticks in my memory. Although only 11, I also remember when Hungarians were refugees, and my Nan and Grandad had Jewish refugees in their home during the war.

It was awful what the Serbs did!

Only 20 years ago!

by SEXY MAMA Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:47 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
sassy wrote:

Not Jews during WWII but the Bosnian Muslims in Serbia 20 years ago. Estimated at about 1 million deaths.

Just 20 years ago last month it was. It was awful. Men and young boys selected and put to death in mass graves.

Yet you don't hear anything about it!

It's brushed under the carpet!

by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

They are coming from a country of safety and which they were already accepted into so no longer fleeing war or danger... just using it as an excuse... economic migrants!!!

And a mob of law breaking illegal immigrants who need to be rounded up and returned to turkey.

Don't you idiots realise that once you start to allow this type of thing, you will start off multiple millions of people from all over the world thinking they can just steam into where ever they choose in huge mobs!!!???

Have you completely lost all touch with common sense and reality!!!???

I think this is the fear behind the feelings and behaviour of some countries Tommy - tip of the iceberg sort of thing.

Only complete idiots would not have thought of this likely outcome...

by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:54 pm

Christie... stop being a twat!!!

Germany is just one country... they are not the boss of any other country or the boss of The EU!!!

Amnesty international is not a credible source on this issue.

by Raggamuffin Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:54 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I think this is the fear behind the feelings and behaviour of some countries Tommy - tip of the iceberg sort of thing.

Only complete idiots would not have thought of this likely outcome...

Yes. Even Cameron seems to have thought of it, unlike the Germans ...

by Irn Bru Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:00 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I think this is the fear behind the feelings and behaviour of some countries Tommy - tip of the iceberg sort of thing.

Only complete idiots would not have thought of this likely outcome...

Yes. Even Cameron seems to have thought of it, unlike the Germans ...

He has. His government have just reduced the benefits for asylum seekers awaiting a decision. They get too much. And all the time he is spouting how great we are at helping those fleeing persecution.

by Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:01 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Christie... stop being a twat!!!

Germany is just one country... they are not the boss of any other country or the boss of The EU!!!

Amnesty international is not a credible source on this issue.

Not a credible source? Tommy you are a first rate clown, please I beg you, go and educate yourself!

by Irn Bru Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:05 pm

Christie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Christie... stop being a twat!!!

Germany is just one country... they are not the boss of any other country or the boss of The EU!!!

Amnesty international is not a credible source on this issue.

Not a credible source? Tommy you are a first rate clown, please I beg you, go and educate yourself!

And looking at your avatar Tommy, stop making toast on an open fire with the bread hanging on the end of a short fork. Laughing

Sorry Tommy - couldn't resist.

by eddie Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:07 pm

Under UV light, that's what sun cream in your skin looks like.

by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:21 pm

Christie... you go and educate yourself...

Germany is just one country... they are not the boss of any other country or the boss of The EU!!!

Amnesty international is not a credible source on this issue.

And just a side point... don't see any lefties or our main stream leftie run media talking about the Christian minorities being massacred by Muslims in Syria/Iraq/Egypt/Libya and elsewhere any more... and the women and children being raped and openly sold as slaves in markets...

This is happening now!!!

Plus... wasn't the trouble in kosovo started because this part of Serbia was subject to masses of Muslims moving in to it and Then claiming it was theirs...!?

Just a thought...

by HoratioTarr Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:26 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Well it's up to them - it's their country, and the Germans didn't give a shit about Hungary when they invited everyone in. Same with Croatia. The Hungarians said ages ago they would close the border with Serbia.

So its okay to deny people because they are Muslims?
Really?
That stems from the worst form of bigotry.
Hungary shoukld be very careful as its reliant on the resources and wealth of many other EU nations.
This is what you failed to grasp.
Again is ethically and morally wrong, or do you agree with bigotry to deny and discrminate people based on their religion a right to free movement?

Do you think for one moment that the Muslim world would offer non Muslims the same courtesy? Ask yourself why none of these 'refugees' are not settling in say, Saudi Arabia or Iran?

by Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:35 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Christie... you go and educate yourself...

Germany is just one country... they are not the boss of any other country or the boss of The EU!!!

Amnesty international is not a credible source on this issue.

And just a side point... don't see any lefties or our main stream leftie run media talking about the Christian minorities being massacred by Muslims in Syria/Iraq/Egypt/Libya and elsewhere any more... and the women and children being raped and openly sold as slaves in markets...

This is happening now!!!

Plus... wasn't the trouble in kosovo started because this part of Serbia was subject to masses of Muslims moving in to it and Then claiming it was theirs...!?

Just a thought...

Here's another thought Tommy. Go and buy yourself a fecking parrot. It will save you the job of repeating the same post day after day, night after night Sleep

by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:38 pm

http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/isis-cites-quran-to-justify-child-rape/

by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:42 pm

Christie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
Christie... you go and educate yourself...

Germany is just one country... they are not the boss of any other country or the boss of The EU!!!

Amnesty international is not a credible source on this issue.

And just a side point... don't see any lefties or our main stream leftie run media talking about the Christian minorities being massacred by Muslims in Syria/Iraq/Egypt/Libya and elsewhere any more... and the women and children being raped and openly sold as slaves in markets...

This is happening now!!!

Plus... wasn't the trouble in kosovo started because this part of Serbia was subject to masses of Muslims moving in to it and Then claiming it was theirs...!?

Just a thought...

Here's another thought Tommy. Go and buy yourself a fecking parrot. It will save you the job of repeating the same post day after day, night after night

Ok Sassy...

lol!

by Tommy Monk Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:55 pm

And just a side point... don't see the islamist leftie run 'amnesty international', or any other lefties, or any of our leftie run main stream media talking about the Christian minorities being massacred by Muslims in Syria/Iraq/Egypt/Libya and elsewhere any more... and the women and children being raped and openly sold as slaves in markets...!!!

http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/isis-cites-quran-to-justify-child-rape/

This is happening now!!!

Where's all the coverage of this real atrocity!!!???

No...?

Too busy trying to tell us how a bunch of Muslim economic migrants are the victims...

Plus... wasn't the trouble in kosovo started because this part of Serbia was subject to masses of Muslims moving in to it and Then claiming it was theirs...!?

Just a thought...

by Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:03 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

And just a side point... don't see the islamist leftie run 'amnesty international', or any other lefties, or any of our leftie run main stream media talking about the Christian minorities being massacred by Muslims in Syria/Iraq/Egypt/Libya and elsewhere any more... and the women and children being raped and openly sold as slaves in markets...!!!

http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/isis-cites-quran-to-justify-child-rape/

This is happening now!!!

Where's all the coverage of this real atrocity!!!???

No...?

Too busy trying to tell us how a bunch of Muslim economic migrants are the victims...

Plus... wasn't the trouble in kosovo started because this part of Serbia was subject to masses of Muslims moving in to it and Then claiming it was theirs...!?

Just a thought...

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by Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:49 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Christie wrote:

Here's another thought Tommy. Go and buy yourself a fecking parrot. It will save you the job of repeating the same post day after day, night after night

Ok Sassy...

When Christie posted the other day her post showed up as sassy , its sassy Rolling Eyes

by Guest Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:58 pm

If you think the 20,000 refugees Cameron is accepting will "take over Britain"- that's 22.2% of capacity of Wembley stadium. Over 5 years.

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:12 am

and then there will be the next lot, and the ones after that ....and so on....

chrissake we have been doing it for years now....

and looky what we got

whole areas in cities where its unlikely any sensible whitey would wander...especially at night....
whole areas of cities that are wall to wall grotty dubiously hygenic so called "supermarkets (and I dont mean asda and morrisons either)
not to mention that in most places you have to drive 20 miles to find a decent chippy, since all the "eating houses are selling foreign guff....
cypriots we should encourage...they run simply the best chippy's going...dunno why but its an observable fact.....

also...and I have to repeat this again from a while back as no one could/would give me a direct answer....

exactly WHAT benefit do we obtain from "multiculturalism" in any case which, given the speed and ability of communications these days, we would NOT obtain in any case VIA that communications network???...well???

by Irn Bru Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:35 am

gelico again wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:
gelico again wrote:While the tragedy of those fleeing Syria's terrible civil war has caught the popular imagination, such people formed just 20.1% of those seeking asylum in Germany from January to August 2015.

If you add together the Balkan arrivals (from Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, and Macedonia) they amount to twice that, 40.2%. The figures for those granted refuge are quite different because many of the applications from Balkan countries are rejected.

It's hard to avoid the conclusion that tens of thousands of people from relatively peaceful countries have joined the trek to Germany, which is seen as one of the most desirable places in Europe to live.

To put it more bluntly: they are taking advantage of and increasing this crisis. Statistics (attached report in German) compiled by the German authorities show that while the number of Syrians went up by 177% during the first nine months of 2015 (compared with the same period last year), the rise from Albania was 631%.

To put it bluntly you are talking shite:

http://www.unhcr.org.uk/about-us/key-facts-and-figures.html

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/asylum_statistics

well I'm glad you think so,,,,,,it was taken off an article from your beloved bbc which you seem to admire so much when it suits you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34270077

I've just looked over the figures quoted in the BBC article by Mark Urban and they are actually correct. They were drawn from the German Federal Office for Migration and Refugees who collected and collated the data of all asylum applications from whichever country they came from together with the period in which they were made.

The data clearly shows a large increase in the applications from people originating in Kosova and Albania in particular which together outsripped the numbers from Syria itself. The Balkans are a huge cultural mix so that's not to say that some were not entitled to claim asylum it's just that they were coming from countries which are not considered to be inhabited by people at risk.

Here's the data

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Bear in mind these figures represent people who were already in Germany up to the end of August and not those who we see suffering right now as they try to escape from persecution and a life of hell.

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:59 am

Irn Bru wrote:
gelico again wrote:

well I'm glad you think so,,,,,,it was taken off an article from your beloved bbc which you seem to admire so much when it suits you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34270077

I've just looked over the figures quoted in the BBC article by Mark Urban and they are actually correct. They were drawn from the German Federal Office for Migration and Refugees who collected and collated the data of all asylum applications from whichever country they came from together with the period in which they were made.

The data clearly shows a large increase in the applications from people originating in Kosova and Albania in particular which together outsripped the numbers from Syria itself. The Balkans are a huge cultural mix so that's not to say that some were not entitled to claim asylum it's just that they were coming from countries which are not considered to be inhabited by people at risk.

Here's the data

Bear in mind these figures represent people who were already in Germany up to the end of August and not those who we see suffering right now as they try to escape from persecution and a life of hell.

You are in error to claim these nations were not deemed at risk before September, they were.
Both Kosovo and Bosnia were not deemed safe countries and only this month has Germany designated them safe. So to exclude them as refugees in the above figures would be wrong when they have applied for asylum status. So the above would count them very much so as refugees. Whether they get accepted is another matter but Germany is as seen in the article looking to help many.Where as in the article he eludes to people travelling with the recent mix as migrants.
This bears little evidence based on the figures.

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/germany-tightens-up-on-balkan-migrants-09-08-2015

So I stand correct when as he claimed they were thousands of migrants is based on a presumption they may not receive asylum status. As you rightly stated many have come before the mass influx, which is bound to see the figures for Syria dramatically increase. For him to cliam they were thousands of migrants is thus in error and even more so when he forgot to add all the other nationalities of refugees..

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:38 am

hungarian police guarding border are reportedly using persil wash powder in water cannon, police captain explained "it is more effective on coloureds and stops them running"...

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:46 am

refugees should be grateful to be living in camps in tents and being fed and receive medical care until they can go back to their own countries , why should they want any more than that it is the basics to survive and surely better than living in the war zone .

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:48 am

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:refugees should be grateful to be living in camps in tents and being fed and receive medical care until they can go back to their own countries , why should they want any more than that it is the basics to survive and surely better than living in the war zone .

Wow

Just wow.

You still surpise me with how even more absurd you can be.

So what about sanitation then Dibs?

You know something you have become used to having though would not have the first clue as to creating the infrustructure needed to create such facilities?

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:49 am

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:refugees should be grateful to be living in camps in tents and being fed and receive medical care until they can go back to their own countries , why should they want any more than that it is the basics to survive and surely better than living in the war zone .

It shows they are not intending to return....

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:51 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:refugees should be grateful to be living in camps in tents and being fed and receive medical care until they can go back to their own countries , why should they want any more than that it is the basics to survive and surely better than living in the war zone .

Wow

Just wow.

You still surpise me with how even more absurd you can be.

So what about sanitation then Dibs?

You know something you have become used to having though would not have the first clue as to creating the infrustructure needed to create such facilities?

what about it , there can be portable showers and toilets , probably more than they're used to back at the war zone .

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:52 am

If it was good enough for the Jews to live in camps without hardly any food then the sheer luxury of living in camps in safe countries with food water and sanitation should be like the Ritz and they should be grateful .

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:54 am

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:If it was good enough for the Jews to live in camps without hardly any food then the sheer luxury of living in camps in safe countries with food water and sanitation should be like the Ritz and they should be grateful .

they are never grateful, the world is blind, everywhere these moslems go, trouble follows, demands follow...

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:55 am

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Wow

Just wow.

You still surpise me with how even more absurd you can be.

So what about sanitation then Dibs?

You know something you have become used to having though would not have the first clue as to creating the infrustructure needed to create such facilities?

what about it , there can be portable showers and toilets , probably more than they're used to back at the war zone .

What about it?

OMG, do you understand how many conditions can occur from bad sanitation?
So how the fuck should they be grateful to be placed into such a situation where there is such increased risks to their health?

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:56 am

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:If it was good enough for the Jews to live in camps without hardly any food then the sheer luxury of living in camps in safe countries with food water and sanitation should be like the Ritz and they should be grateful .
they are never grateful, the world is blind, everywhere these moslems go, trouble follows, demands follow...

and that's before entering a safe zone country too , but the do gooders are simpletons they can't see it they would rather wait for one of their family members or anyone to be blown up or beheaded then cry 'how could this happen'

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:00 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

what about it , there can be portable showers and toilets , probably more than they're used to back at the war zone .

What about it?

OMG, do you understand how many conditions can occur from bad sanitation?
So how the fuck should they be grateful to be placed into such a situation where there is such increased risks to their health?

So how come i haven't heard of British people getting these fantasy conditions while British people use portable showers and toilets lol and if they're that bothered about getting conditions they could make sure they clean the camp and keep it disinfected . How about a playground the kids that would be luxury and keep them entertained .

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:00 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:
heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:
they are never grateful, the world is blind, everywhere these moslems go, trouble follows, demands follow...

and that's before entering a safe zone country too , but the do gooders are simpletons they can't see it they would rather wait for one of their family members or anyone to be blown up or beheaded then cry 'how could this happen'

the ones who make the decisions are usually pretty well guarded ordinary people tend to pay for the bad decisions... in a generation or so the decisions will be seen as disastrous but by then those who have earn't their fortunes from it will be well out of the way...

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:02 pm

Oh and didge , they're sleeping on the floor so what i suggest is luxury and how is that any worse than their war zone ?

I bet most of them shit in the streets anyway so having a portaloo and shower is the Ritz .

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:03 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

What about it?

OMG, do you understand how many conditions can occur from bad sanitation?
So how the fuck should they be grateful to be placed into such a situation where there is such increased risks to their health?

So how come i haven't heard of British people getting these fantasy conditions while British people use portable showers and toilets lol and if they're that bothered about getting conditions they could make sure they clean the camp and keep it disinfected . How about a playground the kids that would be luxury and keep them entertained .

Its pointless dealing with someone of your limited intelligence

Yocu alimed they should be grateful, where as seen they are being placed in such a situation.

It shows you have no compassion and not a clue

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:04 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

So how come i haven't heard of British people getting these fantasy conditions while British people use portable showers and toilets lol and if they're that bothered about getting conditions they could make sure they clean the camp and keep it disinfected . How about a playground the kids that would be luxury and keep them entertained .

Its pointless dealing with someone of your limited intelligence

Yocu alimed they should be grateful, where as seen they are being placed in such a situation.

It shows you have no compassion and not a clue

wow we have been saying that for years yet you insist on posting didge...

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:05 pm

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Its pointless dealing with someone of your limited intelligence

Yocu alimed they should be grateful, where as seen they are being placed in such a situation.

It shows you have no compassion and not a clue
wow we have been saying that for years yet you insist on posting didge...

But many see the pair of you as clowns, idiots at best.
So hey ho, you just further prove how far removed you are from the teachings of Jesus .

by Guest Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:06 pm

It laughable that didge sassy christie are the only ones who want the refugees here they must be loaded with money Razz

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