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Chris Coons says Trump, Congress have a duty to "lower the temperature" of political rhetoric
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-coons-face-the-nation-says-trump-congress-have-a-duty-to-lower-the-temperature-of-political-rhetoric/
Democratic Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware says he thinks the recent spate of high-profile acts of political violence, including the deadly shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue on Saturday, has been spurred by "the caustic tone in our national politics," and that leaders have a duty to tamp down their rhetoric and denounce violence.
"There's a responsibility for all of us to lower the tone of hatred and division in our country," Coons said on "Face the Nation" Sunday. "I think those of us in national office, our president, those who would hope to be president, those of us in Congress who have louder microphones and who are heard from and seen more regularly, need to take responsibility for ways in which we lower the temperature."
Transcript: Sen. Chris Coons on "Face the Nation," October 28, 2018
Federal prosecutors charged Robert Bowers, 46, with 29 counts related to Saturday's shooting in which 11 people were killed at the Tree of Life Congregation in Pittsburgh. Earlier in the week, Cesar Sayoc of Florida was arrested for allegedly mailing explosive devices addressed to prominent Democrats and critics of Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon around the country.
While saying that it is hard to draw a "clear line" between Mr. Trump's rhetoric and either case, Coons said it was important for the president to continue speaking out against such acts.
"What I do think is helpful is, when those who are in national leadership recognize that some of the arguments they've been making have inspired or encouraged deranged individuals to take actions that they really don't support, to make it perfectly clear, to denounce hatred and anti-Semitism as Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon recently has, to distance themselves from the arguments that might have inspired ... these sorts of actions," Coons said.
"It is important for us to recognize that there's more work that we can and should do to lower the temperature and tone in our national politics," he added. "We have to take a moment and step back and recognize that the heated rhetoric of American politics today is encouraging some folks who are deranged to take action based on that rhetoric."
Coons co-chairs a weekly bipartisan prayer breakfast in the Senate with Republican Sen. James Lankford, who said on "Face the Nation" he saw no connection between the president's rhetoric and the synagogue shooting.
"We get together every week with a bipartisan group of several dozen senators and one of the things we focus on is trying to meet each other in a spirit of humility and prayer and to see each other as real people, not as evil enemies, more than just political opponents," Coons said. "And one of the things that really concerns me that weighs on my heart, John, is the ways in which our president and a number of other national political leaders of both parties have used their megaphones in order to inspire and instill and energize folks based on division rather than based on unity."
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Trump's filthy mouth is to blame for all of this. He's empowered the lowest scum of the earth. FUCK DONALD TRUMP!!!
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I like Donald Trump, I wish we had a leader like him...
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heavenlyfather wrote:I like Donald Trump, I wish we had a leader like him...
And you dare go by "heavenly father?" Trump is the anti-Christ!!!
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you can't think hillary Clinton would have been better...
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heavenlyfather wrote:you can't think hillary Clinton would have been better...
Sure I can. Watch me thinking Hillary Clinton would have been better.
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*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:heavenlyfather wrote:you can't think hillary Clinton would have been better...
Sure I can. Watch me thinking Hillary Clinton would have been better.
so all the lost emails, the reports of what she "allegedly" did and didn't do would have made her a good candidate..lol
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heavenlyfather wrote:*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:heavenlyfather wrote:you can't think hillary Clinton would have been better...
Sure I can. Watch me thinking Hillary Clinton would have been better.
so all the lost emails, the reports of what she "allegedly" did and didn't do would have made her a good candidate..lol
She was investigated for three decades by Republicans who hated her and yet could find nothing to charge her with.
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*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:heavenlyfather wrote:
so all the lost emails, the reports of what she "allegedly" did and didn't do would have made her a good candidate..lol
She was investigated for three decades by Republicans who hated her and yet could find nothing to charge her with.
so the "lost" emails were nothing,the "alleged" killings were nothing, not to mention the supplied knee pads..lol... the devil protects his own..
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heavenlyfather wrote:*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:heavenlyfather wrote:
so all the lost emails, the reports of what she "allegedly" did and didn't do would have made her a good candidate..lol
She was investigated for three decades by Republicans who hated her and yet could find nothing to charge her with.
so the "lost" emails were nothing,the "alleged" killings were nothing, not to mention the supplied knee pads..lol... the devil protects his own..
They were nothing compared to Trump's wrongdoing, which you somehow ignore. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
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really, so her laughing about getting a known rapist off with the charge is the actions of a responsible leader... lol
Trump got through the election, the only problem the establishment has is he is the first President they cannot buy or coerce and that terrifies them...
Trump got through the election, the only problem the establishment has is he is the first President they cannot buy or coerce and that terrifies them...
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heavenlyfather wrote:really, so her laughing about getting a known rapist off with the charge is the actions of a responsible leader... lol
Trump got through the election, the only problem the establishment has is he is the first President they cannot buy or coerce and that terrifies them...
Um...Trump not only pardons gang rapists, he appoints them to the Supreme Court.
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Don't you love how professed "Christians" like 'heavenlyfather' tend to worship the scum of the earth like Trump and all their other scumbags, Jew killers and bomb makers. LOL
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Lurker wrote:Don't you love how professed "Christians" like 'heavenlyfather' tend to worship the scum of the earth like Trump and all their other scumbags, Jew killers and bomb makers. LOL
Does he keep his children in cages?
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heavenlyfather wrote:really, so her laughing about getting a known rapist off with the charge is the actions of a responsible leader... lol
Trump got through the election, the only problem the establishment has is he is the first President they cannot buy or coerce and that terrifies them...
Aren't you keeping up with the news, HF !!!
The Russians had already "bought" the Trumpster's mob even before the election..
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Don't you love how professed "Christians" like 'heavenlyfather' tend to worship the scum of the earth like Trump and all their other scumbags, Jew killers and bomb makers. LOL
I never trust any of those fakers, charlatans and hypocrites who are so adamant about "wearing their faiths on their sleeves", all the while condemning us infidels to their imagined "hell", while at the same time championing those nasty and greed fuelled scumbags like Trump, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bannon; telling women what to do with their own bodies; denying climate change; pushing quack alternatives to necessary medical treatments...
The most decent, kind and honest religious folks you might meet are usually the ones who go quietly about their business, putting the welfare of others and the wider community and environment first, speaking out against injustice and nastiness when necessary, actually following the better teachings of their chosen prophets -- but not making a great noise only about their own achievements..
The very opposite of the troublemakers -- the Bible bashers, the Islamists, and the 'Zionists' -- and those equally deranged twats that so strongly support their idiocies.
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heavenlyfather wrote:*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
She was investigated for three decades by Republicans who hated her and yet could find nothing to charge her with.
so the "lost" emails were nothing,the "alleged" killings were nothing, not to mention the supplied knee pads..lol... the devil protects his own..
The lost emails were bullshit idiocy by Repugnuts..
The "alleged" killings' were invented conspiracies invented by Repugnuts..
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Lurker wrote:heavenlyfather wrote:
so the "lost" emails were nothing,the "alleged" killings were nothing, not to mention the supplied knee pads..lol... the devil protects his own..
The lost emails were bullshit idiocy by Repugnuts..
The "alleged" killings' were invented conspiracies invented by Repugnuts..
I know they were, Lurker. I was hoping HF would stick around so we could pick up the details of this episode (it's many arguments, not just one) as we went along. Alas, he's already gone. I'm disappointed...I was looking forward to it.
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There is no middle ground on hate.
There is no middle ground on hate. There is no ends justifying the means. No tax cuts. No deregulation. No scores of conservative judges can be worth tearing asunder the foundation of American freedom and democracy. And yet we now stand on that precipice.
I do not think Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon is redeemable on this score. His actions long before becoming president suggest a profound level of personal animosity to the diversity of our nation. And now, drunk on power and exalting in the amen choruses assembling at his hate-filled rallies, his debasement of the norms of the office he holds and his misplaced sense of victimhood have metastasized across a political movement that has become increasingly indistinguishable from the political party he leads.
We must find other pressure points to return the United States to a path of sanity. One big moment is the upcoming election. Americans must vote with the message of “This will not be us!” And they must not tremble in the face of voter intimidation and threats of violence.
I believe that most Americans recoil from the hate and injustice. That’s why GOP officials are lying about their records on healthcare. They are plying a cynical game of stoking their restive minority through propaganda and lies while intimidating and demoralizing the majority. That’s why they seek to distract with all this gunned-up racism and anti-Semitism. Republican officials who play in cynical games of wink, nod, abet, and excuse must hear loud and clear that their complicity is akin to an endorsement.
This can be a delicate balance. One can understand that words and actions are different and that one cannot be held accountable for the actions of a deranged loner. But one can be held accountable for stoking a climate where these actions burst forth with the frequency and seriousness we are witnessing.
Where we used to speak of dog whistles we now hear bullhorns. There is nothing subtle or hidden about what’s going on. And no one can be allowed to pretend that this is just a slightly adulterated version of politicos as usual. All who support the president must be called to account for the hate they have allowed him to wreak upon this nation. This hate is bigger than Trump and it long preceded him. To personalize it around him is to excuse far too many for their tacit complicity. We are long beyond the stage of words of disapproval. We must dismantle the scaffolding that has allowed this terror to flourish.
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That made me laugh, Lurker.
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People can't dislike him that much or he would have lost by a bigger margin. Isn't it rare for a President to gain seats in the Senate ?
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nicko wrote:People can't dislike him that much or he would have lost by a bigger margin. Isn't it rare for a President to gain seats in the Senate ?
The senatorial outcome was a given. Not every seat was up for election; senators serve six-year terms, and that means only 1/3 of them are up on any given election. Of course, parties are not contemplated by the Constitution, so they might be of any party, at any given election.
There are 100-senators. Thus, here is the breakdown of available party-seats for this election:
Wiki wrote:Three of the Republican seats were open as a result of retirements [or death] in Tennessee, Utah, and Arizona. Democrats were defending ten seats in states won by Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election, while Republicans were only defending one seat in a state won by Hillary Clinton in 2016. According to FiveThirtyEight, Democrats faced the most unfavorable Senate map in 2018 that any party has ever faced in any election.
As you see, there was much more opportunity for Republicans to pick up seats this election, than for Democrats. Plus, it's not all about Trump. A lot of people identify and vote with the party, regardless of the incumbent president.
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"Liberals are too nice about trump's lies. You won't catch the GOP being that nice about our truths" (Very well said; from Facebook).
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Lurker wrote:"Liberals are too nice about trump's lies. You won't catch the GOP being that nice about our truths" (Very well said; from Facebook).
One thing that righty's are correct about, liberals have heretofore been snowflakes. There's a cost to everything. When you let righty's get away with shit (Cheney, Trump, etc.), it creates a precedent that cheapens the whole country.
If Democrats don't get ruthless with the right, they will lose me!
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