Muslim-owned restaurant offers elderly and homeless free meals on Christmas Day so ‘no one eats alone’

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


It also says...



Sura (8:55) – Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve

Sura (48:29) – Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves

Sura (9:29) - Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Sura  (9:30) – And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah… Allah (Himself) fights against them. How perverse are they!

Sura (8:12) – I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Sura (9:123) – O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness

Sura (5:33) – The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

Hmmmm

Taking a leaf out of Smelly's books! Has he been coaching you?

-Anyhoo as I always said to him and now you

Please learn the word CONTEXT and apply it

One must always always read the book before quoting it and using it for one's own agenda like you clearly are doing!

If you want to debate Islam and the Quran with me , a Muslim woman who's book it is I will ask you to read it first and then talk about it.


This clearly was a 'nice' thread and once again it's ruined cause you don't like it

Boo hoo  

Tommy Monk wrote:

Oh dear... Looks like SEXY MAMA has run away...


I wonder why...!?

Bella wrote:

Major wrote:

Thank you SM.

I luv MY country and only want the best for it, SM, if that be a crime then I am guilty.

Could you outline exactly what you would like to happen in this country of yours, Mr Starbold?

Major wrote:

Bella wrote:
Could you outline exactly what you would like to happen in this country of yours, Mr Starbold?

I am Major on here Bella.

I could Bella but the usual trolls and tag team will go ape and go through their routine of name calling and insulting thus ruining the post for serious users, any attempt to appease thee would be futile, plus, I have it in script on every forum I've been on, plus you already know.

sassy wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

Oh dear... Looks like SEXY MAMA has run away...


I wonder why...!?

Don't be stupid, she has a family to look after.  You really aren't that important Tommy.

Tommy Monk wrote:

sassy wrote:

Don't be stupid, she has a family to look after.  You really aren't that important Tommy.

Nothing stupid about what I've posted here... and it's not about me...

But what it's about was important enough for her to get involved a couple hours ago... which would have been prime parent/children time...

I've provided truth and she's denied it...

She made a claim... was asked for proof... but couldnt provide it...

Then she quickly ran away...!

sassy wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


Nothing stupid about what I've posted here... and it's not about me...

But what it's about was important enough for her to get involved a couple hours ago... which would have been prime parent/children time...

I've provided truth and she's denied it...

She made a claim... was asked for proof... but couldnt provide it...

Then she quickly ran away...!

She had a few minutes, you don't actually think she'd waste anymore on you do you.

Raggamuffin wrote:
It's strange how lefties like to make up names for people.

Tommy Monk wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Hmmmm

Taking a leaf out of Smelly's books! Has he been coaching you?

-Anyhoo as I always said to him and now you

Please learn the word CONTEXT and apply it

One must always always read the book before quoting it and using it for one's own agenda like you clearly are doing!

If you want to debate Islam and the Quran with me , a Muslim woman who's book it is I will ask you to read it first and then talk about it.


This clearly was a 'nice' thread and once again it's ruined cause you don't like it

Boo hoo  

Ah... the old 'context' excuse waffle again...



Tell you what... you said this earlier...


"...It clearly states in the Quran that charity has no culture or religious bearing!..."


Maybe you can show us where this is 'clearly stated' in your guide book...?

Tommy Monk wrote:

sassy wrote:


She had a few minutes, you don't actually think she'd waste anymore on you do you.

It's not about me... it's about her integrity... she was asked to prove her claim... which would have been a very quick and easy thing to do if it was true... but instead she failed to do so and ran away...!

sassy wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


Nothing stupid about what I've posted here... and it's not about me...

But what it's about was important enough for her to get involved a couple hours ago... which would have been prime parent/children time...

I've provided truth and she's denied it...

She made a claim... was asked for proof... but couldnt provide it...

Then she quickly ran away...!

She had a few minutes, you don't actually think she'd waste anymore on you do you.

eddie wrote:Sometimes people log off or they simply pop in and out, like I do. We are not contracted to stay and answer questions.

Syl wrote:

sassy wrote:
I'm afraid I didn't notice it.   However, you often seem to come to his rescue when he has make openly racist posts.  I loathe him for his racism and bigotry and I'll fight that to my dying day.   Do point me to the lies Scrat has posted.   I agree with him on many things, except Brexit.   I think 4Ever tells it exactly like she sees it as well and she has reason for seeing it that way.   Major is in a league of his own, a disgusting piece of right extremism and no way will I ever tolerate that.

Thanks for answering Sassy.
I don't come to anyones rescue when they make openly racist remarks, what I might do is speak out when someone has twisted what has been said, as often happens.
If anyone, including the Major is discussing something totally detached from anything racist, I will often answer the thread or post because I might find it interesting......THAT is what seems to stick in some peoples claw....ignore him or browbeat him at all times seems to be the unspoken rule here by some, sorry, I don't play those games.

I wont trawl through various threads looking for Scrats lies....but the names he repeatedly calls me and others, Nazi and terrorist supporter and enabler being one of his favourite ones....agreeing with the other trolling fantasist Wolfie when he starts....the forum is littered with his rubbish.
4Ever ...where to start, but as she sees 'hyenas, mobs, gangs etc' everytime someone disagrees with her ramblings, the childish way she changes names and tries to goad others into agenda ridden arguments...that's enough for me.
So you see Sassy....there will always be some we can stomach and some we cant, that doesn't mean we agree with what they say....it means that they have the right to say it...free speech isn't just for the selective few.

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


It's not about me... it's about her integrity... she was asked to prove her claim... which would have been a very quick and easy thing to do if it was true... but instead she failed to do so and ran away...!

My integrity lololol

Seriously are you on drugs Tommy

I have a life away from this forum and I'm not here all day to wait on you! Get a life  and I would suggest to educate yourself in the process so you don't look like a moron whenever you 'discuss' something.

Here are a few quotes in the Quran that mention the word charity as obligatory Zakaat and non obligatory as Sadaqa

002.177
It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing.

002.215
They ask thee what they should spend (In charity). Say: Whatever ye spend that is good, is for parents and kindred and orphans and those in want and for wayfarers. And whatever ye do that is good, -Allah knoweth it well.

002.263
Kind words and the covering of faults are better than charity followed by injury. Allah is free of all wants, and He is Most-Forbearing.

002.264
O ye who believe! cancel not your charity by reminders of your generosity or by injury,- like those who spend their substance to be seen of men, but believe neither in Allah nor in the Last Day. They are in parable like a hard, barren rock, on which is a little soil: on it falls heavy rain, which leaves it (Just) a bare stone. They will be able to do nothing with aught they have earned. And Allah guideth not those who reject faith.
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002.270
And whatever ye spend in charity or devotion, be sure Allah knows it all. But the wrong-doers have no helpers.
002.271
If ye disclose (acts of) charity, even so it is well, but if ye conceal them, and make them reach those (really) in need, that is best for you: It will remove from you some of your (stains of) evil.

002.273
(Charity is) for those in need, who, in Allah's cause are restricted (from travel), and cannot move about in the land, seeking (For trade or work): the ignorant man thinks, because of their modesty, that they are free from want. Thou shalt know them by their (Unfailing) mark: They beg not importunately from all the sundry. And whatever of good ye give, be assured Allah knoweth it well.

002.274
Those who (in charity) spend of their goods by night and by day, in secret and in public, have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

002.276
Allah will deprive usury of all blessing, but will give increase for deeds of charity: For He loveth not creatures ungrateful and wicked.

002.277
Those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and establish regular prayers and regular charity, will have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

002.280
If the debtor is in a difficulty, grant him time Till it is easy for him to repay. But if ye remit it by way of charity, that is best for you if ye only knew.

004.114
In most of their secret talks there is no good: But if one exhorts to a deed of charity or justice or conciliation between men, (Secrecy is permissible): To him who does this, seeking the good pleasure of Allah, We shall soon give a reward of the highest.

004.162
But those among them who are well-grounded in knowledge, and the believers, believe in what hath been revealed to thee and what was revealed before thee: And (especially) those who establish regular prayer and practise regular charity and believe in Allah and in the Last Day.
005.012
Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise regular charity, believe in my messengers, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude."


We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.

007.156
"And ordain for us that which is good, in this life and in the Hereafter: for we have turned unto Thee." He said: "With My punishment I visit whom I will; but My mercy extendeth to all things. That (mercy) I shall ordain for those who do right, and practise regular charity, and those who believe in Our signs;-
009.011
But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charitthey are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand.
009.018
Those who slander such of the believers as give themselves freely to (deeds of) charity, as well as such as can find nothing to give except the fruits of their labour,- and throw ridicule on them,- Allah will throw back their ridicule on them: and they shall have a grievous penalty.

009.104
Know they not that Allah doth accept repentance from His votaries and receives their gifts of charity, and that Allah is verily He, the Oft-Returning, Most Merciful?

012.088
Then, when they came (back) into (Joseph's) presence they said: "O exalted one! distress has seized us and our family: we have (now) brought but scanty capital: so pay us full measure, (we pray thee), and treat it as charity to us: for Allah doth reward the charitable."

014.031
Speak to my servants who have believed, that they may establish regular prayers, and spend (in charity) out of the sustenance we have given them, secretly and openly, before the coming of a Day in which there will be neither mutual bargaining nor befriending.

019.031
"And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;

Tommy Monk wrote:Publicity stunt.

Jules wrote:The following have been described as mere stunts

1.  The 11yo Beckham kid has released a single for christmas, all proceeds go to charity. Some people say it's a cynical move by his wealthy parents, to launch an early singing career for him.


2. Children in Need - ironic, cos it is literally full of stunts - that's how they raise the funds!


3. The group of retired footballers who voluntarily gave their city centre blocks of flats to homeless squatters for the duration of winter.


So you see, any token gesture can be called a ''stunt''. It does not matter if the benefactor earns himself a halo or whatever. Who cares?  So long as it helps people. Better than doing nowt.

Major wrote:Bet no one can eat it anyway.

Jules wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Publicity stunt.

So?
Does it matter if it is?

Yes it does matter!


Any benevolent gesture can be described as such...

No they cant!


...and there are plenty such random gestures at this time of year.
The restaurant is giving lonely people food, warmth, companionship, what does it matter if it's a publicity stunt or not?
Chill!

Jules wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Publicity stunt.

So?
Does it matter if it is?
Any benevolent gesture can be described as such, and there are plenty such random gestures at this time of year.
The restaurant is giving lonely people food, warmth, companionship, what does it matter if it's a publicity stunt or not?
Chill!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Jules wrote:
So?
Does it matter if it is?

Yes it does matter!


Any benevolent gesture can be described as such...

No they cant!


...and there are plenty such random gestures at this time of year.
The restaurant is giving lonely people food, warmth, companionship, what does it matter if it's a publicity stunt or not?
Chill!

It was originally posted on the twitter account of the restaurant (by one of the owners or staff) one night around middle of November, at around 1.00am...

How many homeless/elderly people in Sidcup do you think would have been twittering away and jumping for joy after reading this tweet...?

Jules wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


It was originally posted on the twitter account of the restaurant (by one of the owners or staff) one night around middle of November, at around 1.00am...

How many homeless/elderly people in Sidcup do you think would have been twittering away and jumping for joy after reading this tweet...?

1) But it's just the sort of thing someone would post on twitter, what's wrong with that?

2) I don't care if they posted it in March!  

3) Why would they not mention such a big project on social media?

4) Word spreads and they advertised it at the shop too.

5) Must be backbreaking work to cook for a load of people, not to mention the expense, when they could just put their feet up instead.

6) No one's forced to attend, stay at home .... or under that bridge, whatever.

eddie wrote:Sometimes people log off or they simply pop in and out, like I do. We are not contracted to stay and answer questions.

Irn Bru wrote:If people were elderly, alone and hungry or homeless  they would eat anywhere and well done to the people offering to do this for them. They really do deserve all the credit they are getting.

And they are not alone because there are many groups llike who do the same- like this....

Britain’s Starving Homeless Turn to the Sikh Community for Food

http://www.care2.com/causes/britains-starving-homeless-turn-to-the-sikh-community-for-food.html

One other point. If you have eaten out in the UK it is almost certain that your food has been prepared for you by a Muslim or an immigrant.

Enjoy...

Irn Bru wrote:I expect that for some there may be some vomit going down the lavy pan at the thought of that.

Poor wee things

sassy wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:If people were elderly, alone and hungry or homeless  they would eat anywhere and well done to the people offering to do this for them. They really do deserve all the credit they are getting.

And they are not alone because there are many groups llike who do the same- like this....

Britain’s Starving Homeless Turn to the Sikh Community for Food

http://www.care2.com/causes/britains-starving-homeless-turn-to-the-sikh-community-for-food.html

One other point. If you have eaten out in the UK it is almost certain that your food has been prepared for you by a Muslim or an immigrant.

Enjoy...

      OMG - Irn ...I do so enjoy reading your posts!  Hope your feeling much improved, do drop by more often! 

4EVER2 wrote:

sassy wrote:

Well, for those that aren't memory impaired - that tidbit of common knowledge will shock the crap out of them and forever put the fear of 'Muslim - Immigrant/cooking' into their itty-bitty little minds!
      OMG - Irn ...I do so enjoy reading your posts!  Hope your feeling much improved, do drop by more often! 

sassy wrote:

4EVER2 wrote:
Well, for those that aren't memory impaired - that tidbit of common knowledge will shock the crap out of them and forever put the fear of 'Muslim - Immigrant/cooking' into their itty-bitty little minds!
      OMG - Irn ...I do so enjoy reading your posts!  Hope your feeling much improved, do drop by more often! 

I can see it now "Why don't you take me out to dinner anymore?" - "Because I might eat something touched by a Muslim".   Brilliant!

If only, if only something so simple could work over here so the dining out ambiance wouldn't be sullied by some Neanderthal with a racist/pointed head wanting to ruin it for all of those within ear shot hearing his ugly POV about our current POTUS and how glorified he was for voting for the 'Cheeto-King'!  

sassy wrote:

4EVER2 wrote:
Well, for those that aren't memory impaired - that tidbit of common knowledge will shock the crap out of them and forever put the fear of 'Muslim - Immigrant/cooking' into their itty-bitty little minds!
      OMG - Irn ...I do so enjoy reading your posts!  Hope your feeling much improved, do drop by more often! 

I can see it now "Why don't you take me out to dinner anymore?" - "Because I might eat something touched by a Muslim".   Brilliant!

4EVER2 wrote:

sassy wrote:

I can see it now "Why don't you take me out to dinner anymore?" - "Because I might eat something touched by a Muslim".   Brilliant!

If only, if only something so simple could work over here so the dining out ambiance wouldn't be sullied by some Neanderthal with a racist/pointed head wanting to ruin it for all of those within ear shot hearing his ugly POV about our current POTUS and how glorified he was for voting for the 'Cheeto-King'!    

Eilzel wrote:

sassy wrote:

I can see it now "Why don't you take me out to dinner anymore?" - "Because I might eat something touched by a Muslim".   Brilliant!

I just had a pretty awful (and fantastical) idea. What if all food in the UK suddenly became halal? That might have very intetesting side effects on the number of RW voters available in future elections

Eilzel wrote:

sassy wrote:


I can see it now "Why don't you take me out to dinner anymore?" - "Because I might eat something touched by a Muslim".   Brilliant!

I just had a pretty awful (and fantastical) idea. What if all food in the UK suddenly became halal? That might have very intetesting side effects on the number of RW voters available in future elections

Eilzel wrote:

sassy wrote:

4EVER2 wrote:
Well, for those that aren't memory impaired - that tidbit of common knowledge will shock the crap out of them and forever put the fear of 'Muslim - Immigrant/cooking' into their itty-bitty little minds!
      OMG - Irn ...I do so enjoy reading your posts!  Hope your feeling much improved, do drop by more often! 

I can see it now "Why don't you take me out to dinner anymore?" - "Because I might eat something touched by a Muslim".   Brilliant!

I just had a pretty awful (and fantastical) idea. What if all food in the UK suddenly became halal? That might have very intetesting side effects on the number of RW voters available in future elections

Irn Bru wrote:Les for PM I say.

Irn Bru wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

I just had a pretty awful (and fantastical) idea. What if all food in the UK suddenly became halal? That might have very intetesting side effects on the number of RW voters available in future elections

What did you say Les....?