EU in or out forum Poll

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EU in or out

[veya_victaous]

Veya for Prime MINISTER,he's got all the answers!

I would be an improvement... you can't deny it  at least i got ideas that aren't wring hands in worry and then do nothing but mutter all is doomed.

[nicko]

You can't do any worse than the one we've got.

[Tommy Monk]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/7033413/Exiting-EU-may-be-the-only-way-Britain-can-dump-gypsy-gangsters.html



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513072/Deadly-cost-open-borders-Damning-dossier-lists-catalogue-murders-rapes-committed-Britain-50-foreign-criminals-let-EU-rules.html



A few more reasons to leave the eu...

[Tommy Monk]

Veya you twat... we don't want or need any more immigrants!!!

[Tommy Monk]

This is a good guide...



Costs and Benefits of EU Committee

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0776nw

[Tommy Monk]

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/mar/15/regional-newspapers-eu-poll-shows-massive-support-for-brexit



Brilliant!!!

[captain]

My heart says leave, but my head says those telling us to leave (Boris, Gove,Farage,IDS, Rees-Mogg,Galloway) are all fruit loops and lack any decency and compassion.

Same as Andy has written. So who in the EU is better?

[nicko]

plenty of Labour MPs want to leave as well, or have you forgotten them?

[Tommy Monk]

Plenty of everyone want out the eu madness!!

[Tommy Monk]

http://news.sky.com/story/1673584/former-foreign-sec-quit-eu-to-protect-nhs

[Tommy Monk]

Just saw Cameron addressing a load of university students and telling them how much better of they will be by staying in the eu...





He failed to mention that the continuing membership of eu means the continued mass immigration and subsequent continued increase on rents and costs of living while continually holding down wages!!!


Plus the fact that they will have to continue competing for jobs in their own country with 500 million foreigners who will continue to be allowed to come and go as they please...!

[Tommy Monk]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3526776/Government-spend-10MILLION-taxpayers-money-delivering-pro-EU-propaganda-leaflet-home-country.html


This biased propaganda shows complete desperation!!!

[Tommy Monk]

Just saw Cameron addressing a load of university students and telling them how much better of they will be by staying in the eu...





He failed to mention that the continuing membership of eu means the continued mass immigration and subsequent continued increase on rents and costs of living while continually holding down wages!!!


Plus the fact that they will have to continue competing for jobs in their own country with 500 million foreigners who will continue to be allowed to come and go as they please...!

Cameron didn't tell them this reality of mass immigration that is awaiting the students...





http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/half-of-private-tenants-in-capital-struggle-to-pay-monthly-rent-bill-a3220076.html

[Tommy Monk]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/26/open-borders-allow-isil-sleeper-cells-into-europe-and-uk--capabl/



And while the eu remains in control... things will only get worse...


Countries need to strengthen their own borders and strengthen their abilities to remove those who are national security risks back to where they came... not hampered by eu/echr nonsense...

[Tommy Monk]

Greenpeace leak documents from ttip...


https://www.rt.com/news/341591-greenpeace-leak-ttip-deal/


We don't want the eu and we dont want ttip!!!


We want our country to be run by our parliament... and we want our people to be running our parliament through Democracy!!!


The only way is out of eu!!!

[Tommy Monk]

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/mar/15/regional-newspapers-eu-poll-shows-massive-support-for-brexit



Brilliant!!!

The results of a poll about the European Union referendum by a regional newspaper may strike fear into David Cameron and his remain supporters.

Some 80% of the readers of the Wolverhampton-based Express & Star said they would vote for Brexit on 23 June.

The majority of the 7,979 readers who took part in the survey said immigration was the biggest issue facing Britain.

And, to rub salt in Cameron’s wounds, they named Brexiteer Boris Johnson as the politician most likely to influence voters’ decisions.

Before I continue, a word about the way the poll was conducted. It was self-selecting. Most of those who took part (7,538) did so online, while 441 posted their responses. It gave people a week to register their answers.

Here are the major findings:

Asked how they plan to vote in the EU referendum, 80% replied leave with 16% saying stay and 4% undecided.

Who is most likely to influence your voting intention? 66% Johnson; 22% Cameron; and 12% Jeremy Corbyn.

Do you think Cameron negotiated a good deal for Britain? No, 82%; yes, 8%; unsure, 10%.

What’s the key issue? Immigration, 63%; economy, 19%; freedom of movement, 10%; other, 8%.

Do you think the EU interferes too much in the UK? Yes, 86%; no, 12%.

Will the conditions for trade improve or decline if Britain leaves the EU? Improve, 80% and decline 20%.

Will Britain’s security against the threat of terrorism improve if it leaves the EU? Yes, 70%; no, 20%; and 10% unsure.

The Express & Star’s editor, Keith Harrison, told HoldTheFrontPage: “These results reflect the biggest response we have ever had to a political poll and I am sure that politicians on both sides of the debate will sit up and take note.”

Unsurprisingly, the poll results were welcomed by Johnson, who spent three months as a trainee journalist with the Express & Star in 1988.




:lol!;

[Ben Reilly]

That sounds like the most poorly-conducted poll I've ever heard of!

But of course, Tommy likes what it has to say, so he thinks it's a great poll

[Tommy Monk]

Real people asked real questions and given the chance to reply... straight results shown...


And results are very much the same as the general feeling of all the people I know!!!


And all the people they Know!!!


The overwhelming vast majority of people want out the eu!!!


It is only the bullshit polls that are trying to tell us otherwise!!!

[captain]

Get out and welcome to high unemployment and rising prices on everything. Economic laws can be coaxed but not controverted -- sorry to say.

I am leaning towards out. Don't know why but that is how I feel right now.

[Ben Reilly]

Real people asked real questions and given the chance to reply... straight results shown...


And results are very much the same as the general feeling of all the people I know!!!


And all the people they Know!!!


The overwhelming vast majority of people want out the eu!!!


It is only the bullshit polls that are trying to tell us otherwise!!!

So among the many things you talk about without actually knowing anything about, you also don't know how to conduct a proper representative poll. I'm so shocked.

You don't poll the readership of one newspaper in a city of a quarter million in which they take the initiative to complete the poll in order to find out what a country thinks about this issue.

Leaves the door wide open for one side or the other to campaign supporters to manipulate the poll. And the sample is way too localized.

You're staying in the EU, Tommy.

[Andy]

Tom. Would you respect the results of an EU survey conducted by the Mirror in Liverpool, Birmingham Bradford or Newcastle?
Serious question.

[Tommy Monk]

Real people asked real questions and given the chance to reply... straight results shown...


And results are very much the same as the general feeling of all the people I know!!!


And all the people they Know!!!


The overwhelming vast majority of people want out the eu!!!


It is only the bullshit polls that are trying to tell us otherwise!!!

So among the many things you talk about without actually knowing anything about, you also don't know how to conduct a proper representative poll. I'm so shocked.

You don't poll the readership of one newspaper in a city of a quarter million in which they take the initiative to complete the poll in order to find out what a country thinks about this issue.

Leaves the door wide open for one side or the other to campaign supporters to manipulate the poll. And the sample is way too localized.

You're staying in the EU, Tommy.

This was an honest and open poll of a large number of people of wide number of various sections/categories/groups etc...


And although this was in only one particular area... i truly believe that a very similar result will be found throughout all areas!!!

[Andy]

You said the HoC would be awash with Ukip MP's after the last election.
You can count him on 1 thumb.

[Tommy Monk]

Tom. Would you respect the results of an EU survey conducted by the Mirror in Liverpool, Birmingham Bradford or Newcastle?
Serious question.

The poll in question was conducted by a local paper and open to the whole regional readership to freely participate in...

[Ben Reilly]

Tom. Would you respect the results of an EU survey conducted by the Mirror in Liverpool, Birmingham Bradford or Newcastle?
Serious question.

The poll in question was conducted by a local paper and open to the whole regional readership to freely participate in...

You're staying in the EU, Tommy. Start studying Polish.

[Andy]

Is that a no ,then?
What if the Kentish Times conducted asurvey in Canterbury of 10,000 residents and they voted 70%/30% to remain.
Would you advertise that with as much gusto?
One could be mistaken into thinking you only believe in survey results you agree with.

[Tommy Monk]

Tom. Would you respect the results of an EU survey conducted by the Mirror in Liverpool, Birmingham Bradford or Newcastle?
Serious question.

The poll in question was conducted by a local paper and open to the whole regional readership to freely participate in...

And last time I looked... the locals overwhelmingly vote labour ..

[Andy]

Tom.
Lots of Lithuanian pikeys and sweaty Turks coming to live next door to you soon. Started packing yet?

[Tommy Monk]

Tom.
Lots of Lithuanian pikeys and sweaty Turks coming to live next door to you soon. Started packing yet?

Isn't that a rather racist portrayal of people from those countries...!?


Tut Tut...

[eddie]

Tom.
Lots of Lithuanian pikeys and sweaty Turks coming to live next door to you soon. Started packing yet?

Sounds as though you don't like Eastern Europeans HA.

[Andy]

Tom.
Lots of Lithuanian pikeys and sweaty Turks coming to live next door to you soon. Started packing yet?

Sounds as though you don't like Eastern Europeans HA.

I have a lot of dealings with Eastern Europeans Eds. Most are hard working and honest. The problems are with Lithuanians and Albanians -  it has been grown into their culture to disregard the law.
The Turks will be a big problem for Europe as the EU is giving them visa free access to the Schengen area. Next stop UK.
They would make perfect neighbours for Tom.

[Tommy Monk]

If i said stuff like that here, I would be getting a barrage of accusations of the 'sixhirb' type...

[Original Quill]

If i said stuff like that here, I would be getting a barrage of accusations of the 'sixhirb' type...

Tommy, we all can make fact-based observations. It's just that you typically leave out the facts.

[Tommy Monk]

I always back up what I say with facts...

As I'm always challenged to do so to counter the cries of 'nazi/racist' etc thrown against me...


Don't see hand shandy providing any facts to back up his aspertions...


Or getting any challenges to do so...

[Andy]

Because everyone knows I am right. You never know, you might get a Turkish based forum.owner and his chunky wife move next door.

[eddie]

[Tommy Monk]

Greenpeace leak documents from ttip...


https://www.rt.com/news/341591-greenpeace-leak-ttip-deal/


We don't want the eu and we dont want ttip!!!


We want our country to be run by our parliament... and we want our people to be running our parliament through Democracy!!!


The only way is out of eu!!!

[Guest]

Just had to post this lol

[Raggamuffin]

Everyone I've asked either says they're voting to come out or they're on the fence and don't know yet. I don't know anyone who says they're voting to stay in.

[Tommy Monk]

It is the working class who are worse off with us being in the eu... no control on borders means uncontrolled mass immigration which pushes up costs of living, and holds down wages with British jobs instead going to foreigners...

[Tommy Monk]

David Jones claims the people of Wales are 'even keener' for Brexit than other parts of the UK

Former Welsh Secretary David Jones will lead the Welsh arm of the Vote Leave campaign for the EU referendum.

He said he had "no doubt there is a real appetite in Wales" for leaving the European Union, claiming polls showed the country was "even keener" for Brexit than other parts of the UK.

Mr Jones, Conservative MP for Clwyd West, said: "I have no doubt that there is a real appetite in Wales for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union.

"Recent polls, in fact, have shown that Wales is even keener for a 'leave' vote than many other parts of the country."

He added: "Wales, and the rest of the United Kingdom, can look forward to a more prosperous, more outward-looking future, outside the European Union."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36265870

[Eilzel]

Among people I know the split slightly favours staying.

And there is a pattern I'm sorry to say- though there are variants.

The pro-EU are the ones with a higher level of education and better jobs.

The leavers are the ones who type error strewn messages on Facebook and read tabloids.

Again there are some variants but that is generally the case.

[Tommy Monk]

So are you saying it is the rich who want to stay in...?

[Raggamuffin]

Among people I know the split slightly favours staying.

And there is a pattern I'm sorry to say- though there are variants.

The pro-EU are the ones with a higher level of education and better jobs.

The leavers are the ones who type error strewn messages on Facebook and read tabloids.

Again there are some variants but that is generally the case.

The ones I spoke to who want to leave are intelligent people. They'd had a few beers at the time though.

[nicko]

That's a sweeping statement Eilzil!

[Raggamuffin]

That's a sweeping statement Eilzil!

He's only saying it because his mates want to stay in, and he doesn't want to say that they're lacking in intelligence.

[eddie]

Among people I know the split slightly favours staying.

And there is a pattern I'm sorry to say- though there are variants.

The pro-EU are the ones with a higher level of education and better jobs.

The leavers are the ones who type error strewn messages on Facebook and read tabloids.

Again there are some variants but that is generally the case.

And each have a right to their own opnions and reasons why Les

Your post does rather make it sound like its poorer people who want to leave which opens up a whole can of worms to your opnion

[Eilzel]

Everyone has a right to an opinion, that doesn't mean all opinions are right.

And the divide between who wants to leave and who wants to stay isn't so clean cut. A number of rich people want to leave, notably in the media, and they are dragging less informed people with them.

Ordinary People will pay if we leave. Poor people will pay massively if it causes food price rises.

[nicko]

He's a Teacher,   they are more intellegent than the rest of us,   are they not?

[eddie]

He's a Teacher,   they are more intellegent than the rest of us,   are they not?

There's no need for that Nicko. Les is intelligent. We don't always agree so obviously I'm smarter.

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