Is it true that Britain has become more racist?

First topic message reminder :

Journalists like their stories to fit into an accepted current narrative. With domestic politics dominated by concerns over Europe and immigration, and the rise of the far-right elsewhere in the EU, it is understandable that editors are alert to evidence of rising racism in Britain.

But today's figures are not evidence of rising racism. In fact, if anything, the trend is of flat or declining levels of self-reported racial prejudice.

The statistics come from the annual British Social Attitudes survey which, since 1983, has interviewed one or two thousand people and asked if they are "very prejudiced", "a little bit prejudiced" or "not prejudiced at all" against people of other races.

Adding together the "very" (3%) and "a little" (27%) figures from this year's survey produces a total of 30% - up from last year (26%) but well below the year before (38%).

Yes, the current figure is higher than the lowest figures ever recorded (25% in 2000 and 2001) but then you could equally argue it is well below the high point of 38% recorded in 1987 and 2011.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27608252

We know that the overwhelming majority of child abusers are men.



So are you going to try to justify calling me racist next or xenaphobic dodge...???



Come on!?



Back up your accusations with some substance for once.


If you can, but we all know you can't!



The SIXHIRB labelling is just a tool used by you leftie 'progressives' to shout down and silence any dissent and question of your agenda.

Didge wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

lol scientist will tell you we came from apes..lol what ever next ..

So basically you have no methodology or evidence to back your claim, except some poor prejudice you already hold, being as you think homosexuality is wrong due to your faith and thus offer a poor biased opinion.

Sorry, that is not credible, interesting to have your view, but worthless as evidence for your claim

lol it is incredibly tough to work out a person who's sexual preference is those of the opposite sex is heterosexual, those who's sexual preference is that of the same sex is queer, so a peado who's sexual preference is children of the same sex is by default a queer peado...

that is not rocket science is it..

And smelly.....
. "If you disagree with the Left, you are one or all of the following -- Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted." LOL. It's true it's what they do every time you try to debate them. Via Dennis Prager.

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Didge wrote:



So basically you have no methodology or evidence to back your claim, except some poor prejudice you already hold, being as you think homosexuality is wrong due to your faith and thus offer a poor biased opinion.

Sorry, that is not credible, interesting to have your view, but worthless as evidence for your claim

lol it is incredibly tough to work out a person who's sexual preference is those of the opposite sex is heterosexual, those who's sexual preference is that of the same sex is queer, so a peado who's sexual preference is children of the same sex is by default a queer peado...

that is not rocket science is it..

That is again opinion, and not evidence.

Try again

Smelly ..... interesting article.....
http://www.dennisprager.com/if-you-are-not-a-leftist-why-are-you-voting-democrat/

Tommy Monk wrote:And smelly.....
. "If you disagree with the Left, you are one or all of the following -- Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted." LOL. It's true it's what they do every time you try to debate them. Via Dennis Prager.

Most people who are center right think you are racist homophobic and xenophobic, which is the point, those on the left, liberal and center right think this of you, because your views are far right and it is the far right that always claims it is only the left that says this, showing again how poorly deluded you are on views of people.

You just are in denial all the time.

Laters

In a 5 year study of child sex abusers, of those who targeted only boys, 85% described themselves as being homosexual or bi sexual.
We know that the overwhelming majority of child abusers are men.
And we know that about a third of child sex abusers are men who target only boys.
So are you going to try to justify calling me racist next or xenaphobic dodge...???
Come on!?
Back up your accusations with some substance for once.
If you can, but we all know you can't!
The SIXHIRB labelling is just a tool used by you leftie 'progressives' to shout down and silence any dissent and question of your agenda.

Tommy Monk wrote:In a 5 year study of child sex abusers, of those who targeted only boys, 85% described themselves as being homosexual or bi sexual.
We know that the overwhelming majority of child abusers are men.
And we know that about a third of child sex abusers are men who target only boys.
So are you going to try to justify calling me racist next or xenaphobic dodge...???
Come on!?
Back up your accusations with some substance for once.
If you can, but we all know you can't!
The SIXHIRB labelling is just a tool used by you leftie 'progressives' to shout down and silence any dissent and question of your agenda.

Other studies hae shown out of 190, only two were homosexual, so again your research offers only one study and not a accumulation of many, so on its own the stats count for little from you

Anyway you are doing as you always do and deflect the thread, there is a thread on this already which you were debunked badly on, you just again live in denial

Again those on the left, liberal and center right know you are racist, homophobic and xenophobic

Take care

Still can't justify your SIXHIRB attacks then, no surprise there......




Still waiting for you to try to justify calling me racist or xenaphobic....???



Although I knew you couldn't.



As I said, the SIXHIRB labelling is just a tool used by you leftie 'progressives' to shout down and silence any dissent and question of your agenda.

What keeps most non-leftists voting Democrat (and calling themselves liberal) has been the spectacularly effective saturation of virtually all media and all educational institutions with the message that the right is mean spirited and dangerous.
One of the first books I ever owned — in high school — was titled “Danger on the Right.” Throughout the world, people are fed the message “Danger on the Right” — and virtually never “Danger on the Left,” despite the left’s far bloodier and more totalitarian record.
The majority of people who vote Democratic do not have left-wing values. Only 20 percent of Americans even consider themselves liberal. But vast numbers of people with views that are not leftist have been effectively brainwashed (one cannot come up with a more accurate word) into fearing the right when the threats to their liberty, as well as to America’s standing in the world, its exceptionalism and its economic future all emanate from the left.
That is why nearly all Democratic and leftist reactions to conservatives and Republicans are to avoid argument (remember, on the issues the left has few supporters) and smear them as SIXHIRB, my acronym for “Sexist, Intolerant, Xenophobic, Homophobic, Islamophobic, Racist, Bigoted.” It is almost impossible to come up with the name of a leading conservative whom the dominant media have not dismissed as one or more of SIXHIRB — and usually as a buffoon as well. This obviously serves the left and the Democratic Party in many ways. But the most important is to keep non-leftists in fear of anyone who opposes the left. In effect, the left says, and has been saying for a hundred years, “You may not agree with us, but our opponents are evil.”
The Democratic appeal to black voters provides an excellent example. In nearly half a century, the left has done nothing for black America. Leftists have ruined the cities they govern and most of the public schools they control. But they have mastered one thing — the ability to paint their opponents as racist opponents of blacks. So, blacks, many of whom have conservative values — from opposing same-sex marriage to supporting school vouchers — vote almost universally for the left.
The same holds true of most American Jews. Most live profoundly conservative lives but vote left. Why? Overwhelmingly because they believe there is “Danger on the Right.” It doesn’t matter how anti-Israel the left is and how pro-Israel the right is, or that liberal Time magazine has a mendacious cover story on “Why Israel Doesn’t Care about Peace,” while every major conservative periodical is passionately protective of Israel. For most Jews, voting Republican is a far greater sin, emotionally, morally and socially than eating ham.
That is why virtually every liberal columnist at The New York Times has described political opposition to Barack Obama as racist. The left cannot win on arguments. It must demonize its opponents. From Stalin calling Trotsky a Fascist to Frank Rich labeling the tea parties as mimicking the Nazis’ Kristallnacht, this has been the favored leftist method of achieving power. And that is why it remains so hard for most Democrats to vote what they believe and vote Republican — a lifetime of demonization has worked.



Sound familiar...???

Will answer before I go, you have been ousted as a racist on your views of people who are British, I caught you out and you know it and then you tried to poorly back track and not going to go around in circles, because you hate the fact people call you what you are.

Get used to it, you have no defense for the ignorance you live by. 

You certainly argue using fear collectively against Muslims, Pakistani's, blacks etc, that is xenophobic, I could go on and the list is endless and as much as I enjoy showing you up Matti, there are far more challenging people to debate.

So you deserve the labels as you fit the bill on all of them, the reality is you are far right in your views, and ar going to be one of the reasons UKIP will fail, people like you will end up discrediting the party with your poor views

So until when I am next back, but you are a racist homophobe an xenophobic bigot 

Byeee

So still just waffle and no substance....



Thought so!!!

Didge wrote:Will answer before I go, you have been ousted as a racist on your views of people who are British, I caught you out and you know it and then you tried to poorly back track and not going to go around in circles, because you hate the fact people call you what you are.

Get used to it, you have no defense for the ignorance you live by. 

You certainly argue using fear collectively against Muslims, Pakistani's, blacks etc, that is xenophobic, I could go on and the list is endless and as much as I enjoy showing you up Matti, there are far more challenging people to debate.

So you deserve the labels as you fit the bill on all of them, the reality is you are far right in your views, and ar going to be one of the reasons UKIP will fail, people like you will end up discrediting the party with your poor views

So until when I am next back, but you are a racist homophobe an xenophobic bigot 

Byeee

Ousted as a racist?!   

Didge lives in a world of fantasy...



He likes to bandy around the words but cannot give any justification for using them.

Tommy Monk wrote:Didge lives in a world of fantasy...



He likes to bandy around the words but cannot give any justification for using them.

Hilarious, when you do that daily, you are a racist, it is about time you stopped being in denial, you do not like labels but place many, which is so ironic.

Explain what labels I have placed on anyone that are not factually correct...!?




And still waiting for you to justify calling me racist, xenaphobic???

Wow, denial again, boy needs help.

All has been explained and prov, if you cannot see that, then you are very deluded

Still waiting.....

Yes for you to admi
t you are racist, and i can wait, evidence proven already are

Evidence???



That's what I'm rt'll waiting for you to provide...

already provided

Since 2010  some Brits have adopted the ' everyone on benefits is a scrounger' attitude as well as a growing number of people blaming immigrants for our own failures and lack of tolerance.

So yes, I would say since 2010 and the birth of the coalition, Britain has become more racist..
Can you imagine if we had a UKIP gobernment?  

Racism and hate crime would fcuk-trouple.

Didge wrote:
already provided

Where?

smelly_bandit wrote:

scrat wrote:The fraggle mind searches for abusive words to describe ethnic groups, it is racism.

They want to use niggermuslimfag, and whine about the PC culture stopping them from doing so, thankfully 99% of us Brits can act with some decorum in public, others have yet to complete their "potty training" and are confined to spewing out such bile online.

You just contradicted yourself

Earlier you said the concept of race has changed to "ethnicity"

So why use a word that applies to a concept that is no longer (according to you) being used??

Shouldn't the word be ethnicist or ethnicism??

While we are at it what is the ethnicity of Christian??

Another day passes and still the penny has yet to drop, ho hum "the concept of race has changed to ethnicity" was bleated, but not according to me smelly chap, no, it's according to British law, the law of the land that took you in, in your time of need, nourished you, and gave you a life worth living,,,so some shut the fuck up whining and action some gratitude to this great nation might be in order,,but no, no nein, you want to abuse other races and ethnicities because that's what the jackboot of apartheid taught you,,,,and because ethnicity is a big word and because nazi immigrants like yourself struggle with big words, it's kept under the term racist in an attempt to stop anti-British nazis like yourself from abusing decent honest British Muslim citizens with your vile and disgusting nazi ways and it's failed propaganda.

Honestly chap, if you hate multicultural Britain so much, fuck off back to SA, and whine about it to likes of Julius Malema,,,,off you trot,,,,,tout de suite!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Didge wrote:
already provided

Where?

right THERE

cant you see it??

should have gone to spec savers oink!! oink!!! me didgey me speaky muslim,

scrat wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

You just contradicted yourself

Earlier you said the concept of race has changed to "ethnicity"

So why use a word that applies to a concept that is no longer (according to you) being used??

Shouldn't the word be ethnicist or ethnicism??

While we are at it what is the ethnicity of Christian??

Another day passes and still the penny has yet to drop, ho hum "the concept of race has changed to ethnicity" was bleated, but not according to me smelly chap, no, it's according to British law, the law of the land that took you in, in your time of need, nourished you, and gave you a life worth living,,,so some shut the fuck up whining and action some gratitude to this great nation might be in order,,but no, no nein, you want to abuse other races and ethnicities because that's what the jackboot of apartheid taught you,,,,and because ethnicity is a big word and because nazi immigrants like yourself struggle with big words, it's kept under the term racist in an attempt to stop anti-British nazis like yourself from abusing decent honest British Muslim citizens with your vile and disgusting nazi ways and it's failed propaganda.

Honestly chap, if you hate multicultural Britain so much, fuck off back to SA, and whine about it to likes of Julius Malema,,,,off you trot,,,,,tout de suite!

excellent speech scat

can you come back in about an hour when im about to go to sleep and give me some more gems??

Joy Division wrote:Since 2010  some Brits have adopted the ' everyone on benefits is a scrounger' attitude as well as a growing number of people blaming immigrants for our own failures and lack of tolerance.

So yes, I would say since 2010 and the birth of the coalition, Britain has become more racist..
Can you imagine if we had a UKIP gobernment?  

Racism and hate crime would fcuk-trouple.

Tolerance was plentiful before Labour opened up the doors fully in 1997 whilst pretending to do otherwise. Don't lecture us thicko JD about intolerance you support the guys who are Paedo excusing deliberately deceiving about immigration democracy dodging and economy destroying.

We are intolerant of lying thick unbelievably arrogant people lecturing us about what is right when in actuality it is you dumb lefties who created the problem.

Tolerance isn't infinite dodo

Alright said Fred wrote:

Joy Division wrote:Since 2010  some Brits have adopted the ' everyone on benefits is a scrounger' attitude as well as a growing number of people blaming immigrants for our own failures and lack of tolerance.

So yes, I would say since 2010 and the birth of the coalition, Britain has become more racist..
Can you imagine if we had a UKIP gobernment?  

Racism and hate crime would fcuk-trouple.

Tolerance was plentiful before Labour opened up the doors fully in 1997 whilst pretending to do otherwise. Don't lecture us thicko JD about intolerance you support the guys who are Paedo excusing deliberately deceiving about immigration democracy dodging and economy destroying.

We are intolerant of lying thick unbelievably arrogant people lecturing us about what is right when in actuality it is you dumb lefties who created the problem.

Tolerance isn't infinite dodo

Look Drinky,my our spewing the exact same ' Paedo Labour Party' shite, when their has also been that sort in the Tory party too...it's the individuals who are sick not the entire party ffs.

Now, I remember seeing something on here about this PIE...some sort of vile organisation about or regarding paedophilia ?

Now, pucker up and get  your mouth around your mate's extreme RW nipple.


And btw..weren't the doors already open well before 1997?..and was it Thatcher who booked Britain's seat at the EU table?


Don't lie to me again Drinky.

It is current news at Rochdale Labour reappointing the guy in the frame.

My point is very simple JD you support a party who has a deputy leader who didn't even apologise for turning a blind eye.

Earlier in this thread you adopted that holier than thou act to talk about tolerance, This from a man who used to post really homophobic statements but who now pretends he is innocent.

Forgive me I can't stand two faced liars.

Finally Thatcher did promise a referendum and then renege Brown did!!!!!!!!!!

Thatcher also seriously regretted being conned over the Maastricht Treaty by the Europhiles within and without the Tory Party.

Remember you keep on lecturing us about how good your so called Labour party is I am just showing you are either thick or a liar.

Let me know which it is.

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:


I don't need to "read back" I understand perfectly what I said and what you said

You attempted to combine racial and religious abuse but only where Muslims where concerned

To the point where you were claiming that anti Muslim abuse is racism

When I applied your logic To Christians you wound your neck in and did a runner

Saying

Fuck you white boy

And

Fuck you Muslim

Are two DIFFERENT styles of abuse

You as usual attempt to protect Muslims by trying to say its racist to be anti Islam or Muslim

I asked you is a person who is anti Muslim a racist

You tucked tail and refused to answer

Hence there is nothing more to debate

Never did a runner as seen Christians can be racially stereotyped also which now you are running from showing again how clueless you are on this, in fact one racial group has been for centuries racially and religiously persecuted in this country, showing again how utterly clueless you are.
The two abuses can go hand in hand, combined behind why a person is being a abused, showing that it is you that fails to understand anything.

A person who is anti-Muslims can be very well racist also if they racially stereotype Muslims, it is as simple as that. What is even worse is you think that the points I highlight just involve someone saying fuck you Muslims, they do not, that was changing the the reality of many having racial motives also, showing how again you have the poorest understanding which is why you do not even understand racism, but is funny watching you struggle to try

Didge Islam is extremely intolerant to gays you tell s we are wrong to be intolerant to Islam but you can't stand the most diluted homophobic reference.

Go figure that dodo.

It is you who is inconsistent. I want tolerance all round but I wouldn't for example try to demonstrate icons of tolerance by supporting the Nazis. Yet the Nazis had not dissimilar views about Jews Gays etc that Islam has.

Indeed as far as I know Nazis were not actually misogynistic unlike many followers of Islam.

Go figure that quisling.

Joy Division wrote:

Alright said Fred wrote:

Tolerance was plentiful before Labour opened up the doors fully in 1997 whilst pretending to do otherwise. Don't lecture us thicko JD about intolerance you support the guys who are Paedo excusing deliberately deceiving about immigration democracy dodging and economy destroying.

We are intolerant of lying thick unbelievably arrogant people lecturing us about what is right when in actuality it is you dumb lefties who created the problem.

Tolerance isn't infinite dodo

Look Drinky,my our spewing the exact same ' Paedo Labour Party' shite, when their has also been that sort in the Tory party too...it's the individuals who are sick not the entire party ffs.

Now, I remember seeing something on here about this PIE...some sort of vile organisation about or regarding paedophilia ?

Now, pucker up and get  your mouth around your mate's extreme RW nipple.


And btw..weren't the doors already open well before 1997?..and was it Thatcher who booked Britain's seat at the EU table?


Don't lie to me again Drinky.

Exactly JD, the tories not only took us into Europe, they signed the Maastricht treaty which signed us on,,,,for life.

scrat wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


Look Drinky,my our spewing the exact same ' Paedo Labour Party' shite, when their has also been that sort in the Tory party too...it's the individuals who are sick not the entire party ffs.

Now, I remember seeing something on here about this PIE...some sort of vile organisation about or regarding paedophilia ?

Now, pucker up and get  your mouth around your mate's extreme RW nipple.


And btw..weren't the doors already open well before 1997?..and was it Thatcher who booked Britain's seat at the EU table?
H

Don't lie to me again Drinky.

Exactly JD, the tories not only took us into Europe, they signed the Maastricht treaty which signed us on,,,,for life.

Hey Scrat...yeah, I often heard that on the news a lot growing up as a bairn-Maastricht treaty,(Irn has mentioned it as well) and always  there standing in the picture would be Maggie Thatcher, and I remember her treatment of the miners on the news almost non stop for a while...
I can hand -on-heart say it was all doom and gloom news when Thatcher was in office...

Certainly for the underprivileged anyway.

Read what I said about Maastricht Scat. A referendum was promised by Labour on Lisbon and you guys have absolutely no shame covering up Labours lies and betrayal as Labou leaders cover up child abuse.

You have absolutely no standards/

Alright said Fred wrote:Read what I said about Maastricht Scat. A referendum was promised by Labour on Lisbon and you guys have absolutely no shame covering up Labours lies and betrayal as Labou leaders cover up child abuse.

You have absolutely no standards/

Standards, and what are the tory standards, there's never been a bigger band of Eton wastrels and privileged odd bods, it's a fucking freak show of failure, they've got us deeper in debt, and they've decided to reward the ---- with tax breaks and declare that we should work longer and harder for less to pay for it.

Wake the fuck up!

Sorry for the late input and diversion, folks, but this is a reply to comments on the previous page.

Quoting DIDGE: “So again why do you misspell the word Stardesk?”

So why are Jews seen as a race stardesk, based upon the fact you can also convert to Judaism?”
“You can put the two together where you associate a person of a religion with race, which is what happens many times in this country where many are associated with Pakistani's and Muslims, yet not so much from Bangladesh, even though there is many people from Bangladesh, showing how the two can go hand in hand together which is what smelly is missing, you have more sense and way more intelligence that him, no doubt will see this point. The Irish were for centuries persecuted and were identified behind this persecution because of their race and religion, are you denying this?'
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Didge, I’ve never said Judaism is a race, it must have been someone else, check back. I know only too well that Judaism, though basically a Jewish belief, is not a specific race.
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HF: How ever many times have I told you Humans did not evolve from Primates. You might as well say Primates evolved from Humans. Whilst both species may have had the same beginnings, there came a point in evolvement when Primates went one way and Humans another direction.
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For Didge, concerning the spelling of Moslem/Muslim, which he says I'm wrong. Here’s a scanned copy out of my dictionary, ‘The Concise Oxford Dictionary.’

Most be a very old dictionary Stardesk


I know evolution as well Stardesk

Good morning Didge. Perhaps modern dictionaries are motivated by modern, up-to-date common language. As we know, words and usage do change over time. My dictionary is about 30 years old, so maybe it's out of date.  But I would just say that surely both words are ok to use.

By the way, my comment about Primates/Humans was an answer to
HF, our old mate Gigatt. I notice he hasn't answered it.

Going now, but will catch up later. Bye for now.

stardesk wrote:Good morning Didge. Perhaps modern dictionaries are motivated by modern, up-to-date common language. As we know, words and usage do change over time. My dictionary is about 30 years old, so maybe it's out of date.  But I would just say that surely both words are ok to use.

By the way, my comment about Primates/Humans was an answer to
HF, our old mate Gigatt. I notice he hasn't answered it.

Going now, but will catch up later. Bye for now.

No worries mate, hope you have a good day.