Is it true that Britain has become more racist?

by Ben Reilly Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:21 pm

First topic message reminder :

Journalists like their stories to fit into an accepted current narrative. With domestic politics dominated by concerns over Europe and immigration, and the rise of the far-right elsewhere in the EU, it is understandable that editors are alert to evidence of rising racism in Britain.

But today's figures are not evidence of rising racism. In fact, if anything, the trend is of flat or declining levels of self-reported racial prejudice.

The statistics come from the annual British Social Attitudes survey which, since 1983, has interviewed one or two thousand people and asked if they are "very prejudiced", "a little bit prejudiced" or "not prejudiced at all" against people of other races.

Adding together the "very" (3%) and "a little" (27%) figures from this year's survey produces a total of 30% - up from last year (26%) but well below the year before (38%).

Yes, the current figure is higher than the lowest figures ever recorded (25% in 2000 and 2001) but then you could equally argue it is well below the high point of 38% recorded in 1987 and 2011.

Is it true that Britain has become more racist? - Page 6 _75148245_357fcd99-fce5-4280-a9b7-526031d96dc5

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27608252

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:08 pm

Didge wrote:
nicko wrote:didge, do you sit at your computer going ha ha hilarious made my day? You do make I laugh, ha ha.Get out and get a life away from your computer, it's taking over your life!!!

Yes, thanks, now take some of your own advice, instead of giving ones to people at work, who have jobs

you get paid for arguing on forums ?

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:10 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Didge wrote:

Yes, thanks, now take some of your own advice, instead of giving ones to people at work, who have jobs

you get paid for arguing on forums ?

Wish I did, but no.

by nicko Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:11 pm

Its no good smelly he wont ever admit he's wrong.He justs turn the question around.
What a prat he reckons I should get a job, at 73 dick head!!

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:14 pm

nicko wrote:Its no good smelly he wont ever admit he's wrong.He justs turn the question around.
What a prat he reckons I should get a job, at 73 dick head!!

Ah and the abuse starts, proving what a hypocrite Nicko is and who now backs racists showing his true colours with not being able to refute my points. In fact all you do Nicko is agree with idiots, which speaks volumes about you really.

Anything else old timer, or do you need a bedtime story to help you have a nap?

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:17 pm

PakiDidge

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:20 pm

Really have wound up the racists today, excellent.

::D::

by nicko Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:20 pm

Can all ways tell when didge is losing an argument,he comes out with more insults, your a loser didge bye bye and laters ha ha ha

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:22 pm

nicko wrote:Can all ways tell when didge is losing an argument,he comes out with more insults, your a loser didge bye bye and laters ha ha ha

You mean like you did, and Matti and smelly is doing.

So all 3 of you have lost then by your logic

Mate you contradict yourself so badly I love it.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:03 pm

nicko wrote:Can all ways tell when didge is losing an argument,he comes out with more insults, your a loser didge bye bye and laters ha ha ha

lol he usually declares himself the winner at some point and then runs off..lol

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:04 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
nicko wrote:Can all ways tell when didge is losing an argument,he comes out with more insults, your a loser didge bye bye and laters ha ha ha

lol he usually declares himself the winner at some point and then runs off..lol

No am always waiting for people to refute my points which they always never seem to be able to do. What they do is as seen here detract from the points and talk about me.

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:22 pm

What points?

Muslims can be the victims of racism because they are Muslims?

You're a twat.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:23 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

lol he usually declares himself the winner at some point and then runs off..lol

No am always waiting for people to refute my points which they always never seem to be able to do. What they do is as seen here detract from the points and talk about me.

they are always refuted, you just don't see it .. Smile

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:23 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:What points?

Muslims can be the victims of racism because they are Muslims?

You're a twat.

Can Muslims be racially stereotyped?

take your time

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:24 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:

No am always waiting for people to refute my points which they always never seem to be able to do. What they do is as seen here detract from the points and talk about me.

they are always refuted, you just don't see it ..

That is opinion and not refuting any points

Try again

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:28 pm

Anybody can be racially stereotyped and victims of racism based on their race.

So what's your point?

Muslims are not a racial specific group.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:30 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Anybody can be racially stereotyped and victims of racism based on their race.

So Wgat@p your point?

Can Muslims be racially stereotyped, because of how some dress for example?

The later was a clue.

Take your time

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:37 pm

No because Muslims are not a race.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No because Muslims are not a race.

Muslims make up many races, and Muslims are stereotyped racially, which it seems you have no understanding about.

No surprise there then.

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:42 pm

'...Muslims make up many races,..."

Exactly.

Twat.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:44 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:'...Muslims make up many races,..."

Exactly.

Twat.

Yes but can be racially stereotyped, the point you do not understand, which is funny again you have not the first clue on this, hence by your childish replies.

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:56 pm

Anyone can be racially stereotyped, that is down to race not religion.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:59 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Anyone can be racially stereotyped, that is down to race not religion.

It can be down to both

If a person from Afghanistan is stopped at an airport, who the only reason he was stopped is because he is from that country, has a long beard and robes and is a Muslims, was he racially stereotyped?

take your time

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:05 pm

Is he a victim of racism because he is a muslim?

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:07 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Is he a victim of racism because he is a muslim?

It can be both, as seen, because he/she is victimized not only for being a Muslim, but also from what country he or she comes from, the point you are too ignorant to understand I guess.

So can I have an answer to my question please?

It can be down to both

If a person from Afghanistan is stopped at an airport, who the only reason he was stopped is because he is from that country, has a long beard and robes and is a Muslims, was he racially stereotyped?

take your time

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:10 pm

Are Muslims a race?

No.

End of debate.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:11 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Are Muslims a race?

No.

End of debate.

Matti running scared to answer, sorry that is a copout.

Answer the question:

It can be down to both

If a person from Afghanistan is stopped at an airport, who the only reason he was stopped is because he is from that country, has a long beard and robes and is a Muslim, was he racially stereotyped?

take your time

by Fred Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:25 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Are Muslims a race?

No.

End of debate.

Matti running scared to answer, sorry that is a copout.

Answer the question:

It can be down to both

If a person from Afghanistan is stopped at an airport, who the only reason he was stopped is because he is from that country, has a long beard and robes and is a Muslim, was he racially stereotyped?

take your time

Do you think that we should concentrate on blue rinse old ladies or the above?

If one is carrying out a marketing campaign you choose your target audience. Not all Muslims are terrorist but most terrorist are Muslims. Therefor it is common sense to focus. It is the same for counter terrorism. Political correctness and effectively blocking terrorist atrocities that you and you cohort defend do not mix.

But of course Didge you liberal lefties are devoid of common sense.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:27 pm

Alright said Fred wrote:
Didge wrote:

Matti running scared to answer, sorry that is a copout.

Answer the question:

It can be down to both

If a person from Afghanistan is stopped at an airport, who the only reason he was stopped is because he is from that country, has a long beard and robes and is a Muslim, was he racially stereotyped?

take your time

Do you think that we should concentrate on blue rinse old ladies or the above?

If one is carrying out a marketing campaign you choose your target audience. Not all Muslims are terrorist but most terrorist are Muslims. Therefor it is common sense to focus.

But of course Didge you liberal lefties are devoid of common sense.

Daft analogy and hence why Britain has stopped racial profiling in stop and search for terrorism, even more so when in the west most Terrorists in the west are not Muslims but separatists, showing how poor your knowledge is again drinky.

Sorry you were saying about common sense, when you have no knowledge of terrorism in the west?

by scrat Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:27 pm

scrat wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

You always refer to anyone who is against Islam as being racist

Stupid for two reasons

Islam is a belief system

Muslim is not a race
British Muslims are ethnically British Muslims.

You'll have to find another vessel in which to pour your venom and hatred for the British people.

So we've spent the day trying to explain to racist nazis the fact that Muslims are defined as an ethnic group for the purposes of the race relations act, and the penny has yet to drop.

We've posted British law, it's application, interpretation and definition, and still it has yet to sink in.

Smelly, Heimat and Penfold still fail to grasp the reality, and this is nothing other than their own failure, the worst kind of failure, because they've still learnt nothing from failing and are thus likely to fail again.

"You always refer to anyone who is against Islam as being racist

Stupid for two reasons

Islam is a belief system

Muslim is not a race" was bleated by Mentor, Smelly and now Heimat, so now we know it's a collective failure.

Muslims are defined as an ethnic group which supersedes "race" for the purposes of the race relations act.

Save to memory,,,,,fraggles ffs!

by Fred Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:32 pm

The analogy is apposite with limited resources you focus on likely targets not blue rinse old ladies dumbo. You would have us waste time to be PC.

THat is cruel and stupid.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:33 pm

but surely you are a muslim hater not a racist...

i think you are not quite grasping what they are saying..

yes it is a hate crime to shout you bearded muslim shite...

but it is not racist as you are not attacking his race merely his religion...

technically you could be a british muslim so is it racist to call a british muslim you bearded muslim shite??

can a brit to brit be racist..

by Fred Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:34 pm

BTW Didge do you not accept the simple premise most acts of terrorism are carried out by Muslims or do you even want to obfuscate on that simple fact. Are you sure you and Irn Bru aren't related.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:34 pm

Alright said Fred wrote:The analogy is apposite with limited resources you focus on likely targets not blue rinse old ladies dumbo. You would have us waste time to be PC.

THat is cruel and stupid.

So what are the likely targets if separatists, is the more likely threat?

Take your time

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:37 pm

Alright said Fred wrote:BTW Didge do you not accept the simple premise most acts of terrorism are carried out by Muslims or do you even want to obfuscate on that simple fact. Are you sure you and Irn Bru aren't related.

No I do not accept that most attacks in the west are carried out by Muslims, that is woefully wrong and we are on about this nation, not where most Muslim attacks happen in Muslim nations, showing how poor your knowledge is once again.
It shows it is idiots like yourself you once used to stereotype the Irish during the IRA campaign, who stereotyped blacks for criminality, showing how poor stereotypes can be.

One wonders what you actually read, because it must be the beano with your ignorance

by Fred Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:41 pm

What a dick list all acts of terror particularly the big ones then add those blocked and see how many were not carried out by Muslims.

The IRA is having a little resurgence but compared to the threat from Islam it is a speck.

Islam has a virtual monopoly on Terror and a total monopoly on 14th century barbarism and misogyny.

You are a Dick Didge.

Take your time some of your dormant brain cells concerned with common sense may recover.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:44 pm

Alright said Fred wrote:What a dick list all acts of terror particularly the big ones then add those blocked and see how many were not carried out by Muslims.

The IRA is having a little resurgence but compared to the threat from Islam it is a speck.

Islam has a virtual monopoly on Terror and a total monopoly on 14th century barbarism and misogyny.

You are a Dick Didge.

Take your time some of your dormant brain cells concerned with common sense may recover.

So again you offer no proof, lots of hot air and show why you are just full of hate and fear. Nobody denies there is a threat from Islamic extremism here, but in the west attacks and attempts to attacks are small and vastly separatists commit the most terrorism in the west, this is a fact.

So we learn quite plainly you by a daft belief to fear all Muslims through a poor stereotype, not sound intelligence

by Fred Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:44 pm

Didge wrote:
Alright said Fred wrote:BTW Didge do you not accept the simple premise most acts of terrorism are carried out by Muslims or do you even want to obfuscate on that simple fact. Are you sure you and Irn Bru aren't related.

No I do not accept that most attacks in the west are carried out by Muslims, that is woefully wrong and we are on about this nation, not where most Muslim attacks happen in Muslim nations, showing how poor your knowledge is once again.
It shows it is idiots like yourself you once used to stereotype the Irish during the IRA campaign, who stereotyped blacks for criminality, showing how poor stereotypes can be.

One wonders what you actually read, because it must be the beano with your ignorance

Let me help you Didgy to focus.

In the last 20 years how many death due to acts of terrorism were attributed to Muslims and tha balance to other groups.

Let me start wit the twin towers. Add all the rest together and you'll get nowhere near Dickhead.

What a total nonce you are. An apologist for hate filled Islamic extremist.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:47 pm

Alright said Fred wrote:
Didge wrote:

No I do not accept that most attacks in the west are carried out by Muslims, that is woefully wrong and we are on about this nation, not where most Muslim attacks happen in Muslim nations, showing how poor your knowledge is once again.
It shows it is idiots like yourself you once used to stereotype the Irish during the IRA campaign, who stereotyped blacks for criminality, showing how poor stereotypes can be.

One wonders what you actually read, because it must be the beano with your ignorance

Let me help you Didgy to focus.

In the last 20 years how many death due to acts of terrorism were attributed to Muslims and tha balance to other groups.

Let me start wit the twin towers. Add all the rest together and you'll get nowhere near Dickhead.

What a total nonce you are. An apologist for hate filled Islamic extremist.

So one attack now equates to many attacks to someone with such ignorance because of a death toll, is that now your argument?

Not attacks, which was your argument, but how many die in an attack?

Sorry, are you changing the debate now fuckwit?

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:48 pm

The time is coming up to Ten to Seven pm GMT on Wednesday 4th June and you're listening to Newsfix's Daily Race Row.

... Should we have a jingle?

by Ben Reilly Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:49 pm

lovedust wrote:The time is coming up to Ten to Seven pm GMT on Wednesday 4th June and you're listening to Newsfix's Daily Race Row.

... Should we have a jingle?

Sure, here you go:

by harvesmom Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:50 pm

Maybe we should have some whale noises on certain threads, you know, the relaxation ones that are meant to calm you down cheers

by Ben Reilly Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:52 pm

Sorry, took that one down (I can't stand it!)

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:54 pm

harvesmom wrote:Maybe we should have some whale noises on certain threads, you know, the relaxation ones that are meant to calm you down

Sure they'd be ignored, unless it was white whales - then they could do a thread about them being racists.... that's all there ever is on here nowadays. It's like the Salem Witch trials all over again.

:asboredas:

by Ben Reilly Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:55 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
harvesmom wrote:Maybe we should have some whale noises on certain threads, you know, the relaxation ones that are meant to calm you down
Sure they'd be ignored, unless it was white whales - then they could do a thread about them being racists.... that's all there ever is on here nowadays. It's like the Salem Witch trials all over again.

:asboredas:

I disagree, we also have a healthy number of threads about how evil all Muslims are ...

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:55 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
harvesmom wrote:Maybe we should have some whale noises on certain threads, you know, the relaxation ones that are meant to calm you down
Sure they'd be ignored, unless it was white whales - then they could do a thread about them being racists.... that's all there ever is on here nowadays. It's like the Salem Witch trials all over again.

:asboredas:

I agree it is like that for many Black people, Asian people, Muslims etc, a witch hunt is very apt Tess

by Fred Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:01 pm

Let me add the Tube bombings. How about Glasgow and the number of serious threats nipped in the bud that had they been carried out would have killed hundreds.

Now again add up all the deaths from the rest get it Dickhead. Not even the biggest Psychos on the IRa would blow up a Nuke power station the Muslims would be dancing in the street if they did.

You are a Quisling seeking to undermine focussing on the rea problem.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:02 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:
Sure they'd be ignored, unless it was white whales - then they could do a thread about them being racists.... that's all there ever is on here nowadays. It's like the Salem Witch trials all over again.

:asboredas:

I disagree, we also have a healthy number of threads about how evil all Muslims are ...

Same difference - race, religion.....

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:03 pm

Alright said Fred wrote:Let me add the Tube bombings. How about Glasgow and the number of serious threats nipped in the bud that had they been carried out would have killed hundreds.

Now again add up all the deaths from the rest get it Dickhead. Not even the biggest Psychos on the IRa would blow up a Nuke power station the Muslims would be dancing in the street if they did.

You are a Quisling seeking to undermine focussing on the rea problem.

List them all in the west, I can give you some help if you like, but again you are clueless over the last 20 years.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/latest_publications/37

by Fred Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:04 pm

Actually I,m not talking about race I'm talking about the relative threats from Islam V All the others terrorist nutcases.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:04 pm

Have to go, nice to show up drinky once again for the fuckwit he is.

Bye

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