Is it true that Britain has become more racist?

Journalists like their stories to fit into an accepted current narrative. With domestic politics dominated by concerns over Europe and immigration, and the rise of the far-right elsewhere in the EU, it is understandable that editors are alert to evidence of rising racism in Britain.

But today's figures are not evidence of rising racism. In fact, if anything, the trend is of flat or declining levels of self-reported racial prejudice.

The statistics come from the annual British Social Attitudes survey which, since 1983, has interviewed one or two thousand people and asked if they are "very prejudiced", "a little bit prejudiced" or "not prejudiced at all" against people of other races.

Adding together the "very" (3%) and "a little" (27%) figures from this year's survey produces a total of 30% - up from last year (26%) but well below the year before (38%).

Yes, the current figure is higher than the lowest figures ever recorded (25% in 2000 and 2001) but then you could equally argue it is well below the high point of 38% recorded in 1987 and 2011.

smelly_bandit wrote:

stardesk wrote:Before I begin, I'd just like to disagree with Didge. He seems to have a fixation just lately on the concept of 'fear,' which he mentioned 8 times in his last post, just above. He's also used the term when countering Dibley in religious discussions. Sorry Didge but I think you're wrong.

What ails most Brits is the constant stream of migrants coming here looking for a better life, at our expence. Our nation has/had a history and a heritage going back a long way. We don't like the idea of losing that unique identity, by watering down by hordes of migrants, irrespective of faith and nationality. Yes I agree that we are all humans and as such we are all entitled to a secure and comfortable life, but should that be at the expense of your hosts? Should they be allowed to abuse our societies benefits? Our housing, our hospitals, our jobs? NO! I think not. If they have a profession or skill that we need to fill spaces, then ok, that's fine, but not every man jack of them.

(Thinks: Sit back and wait for the cannons to fire.)

Smelly's reply: Racist
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Reply by Stardesk: Confucius he say: 'Go forth and multiply. If you no understand, ask Englishman, he tell you.'

Tommy Monk wrote:

nicko wrote:We only know of one for certain in this country, but if you want to see a lot in other countrys go to Live leak Beheadings and watch and watch Muslim savages doing it!!!!!

There's been more than one Nicko, but still 'only a few'.....
And more diversion from dodge.
The fact remains, the more 'religious' Muslims get, the more they want to start pursuing the objectives laid out in the Koran which promotes war and killing to achieve supremacy and overall control.
This is undeniable.
However you wriggle and squirm or try to DODGE....!!!

nicko wrote:did.ge, have you seen the video of beheading? this is an example of Muslim fanatics

Tommy Monk wrote:We are talking about here and now.


And all the things mentioned are being done by Muslims.

Tommy Monk wrote:Wrong. You are just highlighting others historical wrong doing, which is no longer happening, to deflect away from The wrong doing by those of today.

Tommy Monk wrote:Wrong. You are just highlighting others historical wrong doing, which is no longer happening, to deflect away from The wrong doing by those of today.

Didge wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Wrong. You are just highlighting others historical wrong doing, which is no longer happening, to deflect away from The wrong doing by those of today.

So murder is no longing happening? That is very absurd to say yet again.

Many wrongs are done today, again you only centre on some crimes, where I say all such crimes are wrong, hence your views are illogical and hate based

Night

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

That's what happens  when you push people too far

No this is the by-product of ignorance, people excuse their hate off others being hateful, a vicious circle, it does not excuse their hate in any shape of form, it makes them as culpable and as bad.

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Didge wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Wrong. You are just highlighting others historical wrong doing, which is no longer happening, to deflect away from The wrong doing by those of today.

So murder is no longing happening? That is very absurd to say yet again.

Many wrongs are done today, again you only centre on some crimes, where I say all such crimes are wrong, hence your views are illogical and hate based

Night

of course murder is happening but it always seems to be committed by muslims on non muslims...

we are back to the reason for this and the reason is the koran commands them to kill non muslims, they have no rules for peace just war, hate and control...

veya_victaous wrote:It like Ben has said, this is starting to become unfun     

too many idiots like HF

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Didge wrote:


So murder is no longing happening? That is very absurd to say yet again.

Many wrongs are done today, again you only centre on some crimes, where I say all such crimes are wrong, hence your views are illogical and hate based

Night

of course murder is happening but it always seems to be committed by muslims on non muslims...

we are back to the reason for this and the reason is the koran commands them to kill non muslims, they have no rules for peace just war, hate and control...

veya_victaous wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

of course murder is happening but it always seems to be committed by muslims on non muslims...

we are back to the reason for this and the reason is the koran commands them to kill non muslims, they have no rules for peace just war, hate and control...

@HF
please back you statements as that are Factually incorrect as has been pointed out multiple times in multiple threads.

Do make us post the same shit everyday because you are too stupid to read. it has been shown to you many times and you are always unable to answer with anything but nonsense and never back any of your statements up with statistics and facts.

I don't give a fuck if you think I am picking on you, honestly would prefer you didn't post here as you add nothing to any debate you're not funny and are the lowest quality racist troll.  

At least smelly is occasionally funny, you're just a bad person.

Ben_Reilly wrote:It's not even just the bullshit, it's the same old bullshit again and again and again!

I swear, when it comes to hate and being a fucking idiot, some of these people are the Energizer Bunny! They keep going ... and going ... and going ...

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:

No this is the by-product of ignorance, people excuse their hate off others being hateful, a vicious circle, it does not excuse their hate in any shape of form, it makes them as culpable and as bad.

correct

The hatred is born in response to hatred.

Without the hatred directed at us by the Muslims, the Muslims in turn would not be hated

Cause and effect

Ps no one cares about your opinions, me least of all

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

correct

The hatred is born in response to hatred.

Without the hatred directed at us by the Muslims, the Muslims in turn would not be hated

Cause and effect

Ps no one cares about your opinions, me least of all

So if an innocent Muslim is attacked, that is cause and affect to what exactly where the attacker has grown to hate Muslims just by listening to your hate speech?

Take your time

You do care hence why you answer ha ha

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


So if an innocent Muslim is attacked, that is cause and affect to what exactly where the attacker has grown to hate Muslims just by listening to your hate speech?

Take your time

You do care hence why you answer ha ha

Look at didge doing his best to protect Muslim hate preachers and fanatics
Really I am against hate preachers, you being one of them, not matter their faith, so that is incorrect, oh my that was desperate

Apparently the likes of choudary and hamza aren't to blame for spreading hate it's me
They are to blame, and so are you and it shows you cannot answer my question, but you do direct hate towards Muslims

Apparently it's not Muslims cutting British soldiers heads off it's me


Apparently it's not Muslims putting up "no go" signs it's me

What's next??

You going to tell us how we are to blame for 9/11 because of our foreign policy

Yep never the Muslim at fault in didges see no evil world of make believe

smelly_bandit wrote:Well you didn't blame the Muslims fanatics didge you blamed me

You said it was MY hate speech that causes innocent Muslims to be attacked

No mention of choudary until I picked you up for it, now you backtrack

Boring

smelly_bandit wrote:Didge your posts consist of

Hate fear hate fear, poor hate argument, fear influences poor hate argument, smelly bandit extremists hate live through fear waffle waffle waffle, Muslim innocent smelly guilty blah blah blah  :-:bravo:-:  :-:bravo:-: 

Every post of yours is pretty much the same as every other one, so I don't need to actually read your posts to know what your about to say

Your next post will probably be "smelly bandit cannot answer my points because he uses failed poor fear arguments" or words to that effect

smelly_bandit wrote:Almost verbatim  ::D:: 

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:Almost verbatim  ::D:: 

At least I am not obsequious to the far right like you.


 ::D:: 

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


At least I am not obsequious to the far right like you.


 ::D:: 

No

Just to Muslims

smelly_bandit wrote:Oh look didge the Pakistani has learned a new word

I'm betting ten scooby snacks that didge will use his new word about 20 - 50 times over the rest of the week

Any takers??

smelly_bandit wrote:Oh look didge the Pakistani has learned a new word

I'm betting ten scooby snacks that didge will use his new word about 20 - 50 times over the rest of the week

Any takers??

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:Oh look didge the Pakistani has learned a new word

I'm betting ten scooby snacks that didge will use his new word about 20 - 50 times over the rest of the week

Any takers??

+1

Didge wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

+1

-10000

Dibs the poster who cannot post but is a sheep


The irony

stardesk wrote:The caption of this topic is ‘Is it true Britain has become more racist?’ Personally I would say definitely not. Some of you are completely missing the whole point, which I’ve tried to explain many times, that our nation is being swamped by migrants, irrespective of race, colour, creed. We just do not have the room and resources any more. There are over 2 million unemployed, the majority of whom are British, not migrants. If a stop was put to migrants coming here, then our own people would find work. Obviously if they didn’t take a job that was offered then their benefits should be stopped.

You see Didge, and others, it isn’t just about racism but national security. I must admit there are people about who are racist, but generalizing I’d say it is a much more serious problem than who lives next door. As I’ve said before, it is a question of losing our national identity, being watered down.

Some years ago, I forget who and when, but never forgotten the comment made by a Moslem cleric: ‘One day Britain will be a Moslem country.’ If it isn’t by conversion then by the mass of numbers coming here.

I’m not a racist, just trying to be factual and looking at the broad picture. I’ve had and worked with foreign nationals of many races, and always got on well with them, a smile and friendly discourse brings the same response. Please do try to see the point of maintaining our national identity and community stability. And for God’s sake stop accusing everyone of being racist.

stardesk wrote:The caption of this topic is ‘Is it true Britain has become more racist?’ Personally I would say definitely not. Some of you are completely missing the whole point, which I’ve tried to explain many times, that our nation is being swamped by migrants, irrespective of race, colour, creed. We just do not have the room and resources any more. There are over 2 million unemployed, the majority of whom are British, not migrants. If a stop was put to migrants coming here, then our own people would find work. Obviously if they didn’t take a job that was offered then their benefits should be stopped.
yes and have countered these points countless times which in each case you never answered Stardesk

You see Didge, and others, it isn’t just about racism but national security. I must admit there are people about who are racist, but generalizing I’d say it is a much more serious problem than who lives next door. As I’ve said before, it is a question of losing our national identity, being watered down.
Oh for fuck sake, that has to be the lamest argument yet I have heard mate and am disappointed, so by this logic did you promote the view on this during the height of the IRA campaign and stop not only Irish coming here but Catholics also? Have not said you are racist, but now using national security to scapegoat many people Stardesk is poor

Some years ago, I forget who and when, but never forgotten the comment made by a Moslem cleric: ‘One day Britain will be a Moslem country.’ If it isn’t by conversion then by the mass of numbers coming here.
Right so because a Christian wants the hold world to be Christian, that is okay, the Same if a Jew wishes the world all to be Jewish, that is okay, if a Muslim does, well fuck me call the Police, I never knew it was a crime now for religious people to wish all people in the world followed their deity, the main purpose of these faiths. Seriously you better than anyone knows the fastest growing belief is atheism, religion is dying a slow death in the west an the better the world will be for it. You think all 2.7 million Muslims here are all religious and practicing? So prey how are 2.7 million going to out number a growing non-muslim population which is at 60 million?  

I’m not a racist, just trying to be factual and looking at the broad picture. I’ve had and worked with foreign nationals of many races, and always got on well with them, a smile and friendly discourse brings the same response. Please do try to see the point of maintaining our national identity and community stability. And for God’s sake stop accusing everyone of being racist.

smelly_bandit wrote:Different is that Christian countries and the one Jewish countries are free societies and respect human rights

In all Muslim countries human rights are abused democracy is used to voted in the most fanatical of the jihadists and all religious minorities are brutally persecuted

I'm ok with a Christian or Jewish world

I would be put to death if Islam ruled

smelly_bandit wrote:Different is that Christian countries and the one Jewish countries are free societies and respect human rights

In all Muslim countries human rights are abused democracy is used to voted in the most fanatical of the jihadists and all religious minorities are brutally persecuted

I'm ok with a Christian or Jewish world

I would be put to death if Islam ruled

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:Different is that Christian countries and the one Jewish countries are free societies and respect human rights

In all Muslim countries human rights are abused democracy is used to voted in the most fanatical of the jihadists and all religious minorities are brutally persecuted

I'm ok with a Christian or Jewish world

I would be put to death if Islam ruled

Would you, then why do Christians live in United Emirates then?


I am more happier with an atheist world thanks, no religious bullshit and arguments over which mythical bullshit is right.

Didge wrote:

nicko wrote:did.ge, have you seen the video of beheading? this is an example of Muslim fanatics

What has that got to do with any of my points?

With that logic have you watched Germans execute Jews.

Have you watched Russians raping German women?

Have you watched the British execute Kenyans?

Sorry your point being?  

Alright said Fred wrote:

Didge wrote:


What has that got to do with any of my points?

With that logic have you watched Germans execute Jews.

Have you watched Russians raping German women?

Have you watched the British execute Kenyans?

Sorry your point being?  

I think you will find Islam is making enemies on every continent simultaneously my limp wristed friend.

Islam seems to think of non believers more or less as Hitler thought of the Jews i.e. lower than animals. Still as long as they have liberal lefties like yourself declaring they are merely a little misunderstood they can carry on with their 14th century barbarism with impunity.

Thank God they have you to speak up for them mate because anyone would think the Tube bombing or the flying of planes into the twin towers was carried out by Muslims.

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:Didge your posts consist of

Hate fear hate fear, poor hate argument, fear influences poor hate argument, smelly bandit extremists hate live through fear waffle waffle waffle, Muslim innocent smelly guilty blah blah blah  :-:bravo:-:  :-:bravo:-: 

Every post of yours is pretty much the same as every other one, so I don't need to actually read your posts to know what your about to say

Your next post will probably be "smelly bandit cannot answer my points because he uses failed poor fear arguments" or words to that effect

Which as seen you have no answer, thus so effective it leaves people of hate like yourself with no valid reply, so much so you keep now coming out with constant excuses.


When will you learn, hate solves nothing.

Didge wrote:

Alright said Fred wrote:

I think you will find Islam is making enemies on every continent simultaneously my limp wristed friend.

Islam seems to think of non believers more or less as Hitler thought of the Jews i.e. lower than animals. Still as long as they have liberal lefties like yourself declaring they are merely a little misunderstood they can carry on with their 14th century barbarism with impunity.

Thank God they have you to speak up for them mate because anyone would think the Tube bombing or the flying of planes into the twin towers was carried out by Muslims.

Islam is now a person is it, that is news to me, how does a religion make enemies of people, unless you are claiming the actions of some Muslims speak for all Muslims now?

How incredible stupid a philosophy you have drinky, so by the Definition and crimes by an faiths, then all faiths have made enemies of others..


It really makes me laugh that people in this day and age have the audacity to post anything with that kind of ignorance really that a religion is an actually being.