RIP europe

by Guest Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:47 pm

First topic message reminder :

Europe gets 8,000 refugees daily - UN

A daily flow of about 8,000 refugees to Europe is likely to continue, the United Nations warns.

The figure came from UN regional coordinator for refugees, Amin Awad, in comments quoted by Reuters news agency.

More than 5,000 refugees - many from Syria or Iraq - arrive daily in Greece.

That flow could continue during the winter if the weather remains good and the borders open, the International Organisation for Migration (IOM) told the BBC.

About half a million migrants - mostly from Syria and other conflict zones in the Middle East and Africa - have arrived in Europe this year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34356758

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:17 pm

No worries

Have a good evening Eddie

No need to take personal, its just a debate

Bye

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:24 pm

Yes he didn't.
Never mind - perhaps I'll be les stupid in future and do my own research. Razz

by Tommy Monk Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:03 pm

Dodgy deflection tactics are full on tonight I see...

Some interesting articles posted from smelly on previous page!

Wonder why these events aren't getting much MSM air time here...!?

And how is it that no matter what groups of Muslims do... some will always pipe up that 'it is nothing to do with Islam'...!?

They were quick to tell us how all these poor migrants were Syrian Muslim refugees fleeing from the real bad Islamic extremist Muslims... then when they arrive and start doing the same type of shit... still nothing to do with Islam...

Now they must be extremist Islamic types that the lefties told us were not part of the nice Muslim migrant convoys arriving...

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:13 pm

Cuchulain wrote:No worries

Have a good evening Eddie

No need to take personal, its just a debate

Bye

No one ever takes debates personal until someone makes them personal.
And you always do. It's like a medicine to you.

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:51 pm

desperate refugees taking the beaches of europe

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:53 pm

Migrants accused of bringing CHOLERA to Kos as tourist struck down with disease

It is feared that the bacterial infection may have been brought in through the influx of migrants arriving on the Greek island, which has become a main entry point for those fleeing war-torn countries.

An official from the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed that a 79-year-old Dutch tourist with symptoms of cholera was transferred from Kos for tests and treatment in an Athens hospital.

The patient was suffering from bad diarrhoea and high fever, but the diagnosis has not yet been confirmed.

The centre said in a statement: "We are proceeding with more examinations to avoid the danger of a contagious disease.

"There are fears that a case may have been transmitted through the migratory wave."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/609553/Migrant-crisis-cholera-Kos-island-refugees-Syria-Afghanistan-Europe

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:54 pm

Don't microwave sausage rolls - it'll upset other faiths! New guidelines on communal kitchen etiquette for the workplace are suggested

It may seem an innocent enough act to warm up your sausage roll in the microwave during lunch hour.

But think again, because doing so could seriously upset colleagues of certain faiths, new guidelines on the etiquette of using communal kitchens at work suggest.

Similarly, it would also be advisable to avoid keeping bacon rolls in a fridge shared with people whose religious beliefs prohibit them from eating pork.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3259638/Now-heating-sausage-roll-office-microwave-cause-offense-New-guidelines-communal-kitchen-etiquette-workplace-suggested.html

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:56 pm

Merkel Stands Ground on Refugees as 1.5 Million Seen Coming

Chancellor Angela Merkel said Germany has to live with the mass influx of refugees, confronting critics within her party bloc amid a media report that as many as 1.5 million people may arrive this year.

As Merkel faces pressure inside her governing coalition for capping migration to Europe’s biggest economy, Bild newspaper, citing official estimates of the number of daily arrivals, said Monday that more than 900,000 people could make their way to Germany in the final three months. So far, the government has estimated 800,000 would arrive in all of 2015.

“It doesn’t make much sense to get angry because we have this problem now -- or to say, ‘Where is this coming from? I want the problem to go away,’” Merkel said in an interview with Deutschlandfunk radio on Sunday. “We have to accept it, to control it and at the same time make sure we address weak spots.”

As Europe faces its biggest refugee crisis since the end of World War II, Germany has become the destination of choice, including for war refugees from Syria. Regional and municipal governments could face a collapse of infrastructure needed to shelter the newcomers, Bild quotes the document as saying.

Germany’s Interior Ministry declined to comment on the document’s content. Estimates shouldn’t be based on daily or weekly arrivals and the flow of migrants is expect to slow during the winter months, ministry spokesman Harald Neymanns told reporters in Berlin.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-03/merkel-calls-for-joint-effort-in-eu-to-resolve-refugee-crisis

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:56 pm

The huge influx of migrants into Europe is being used by some foreign leaders to weaken the European Union politically, EU president Donald Tusk said Friday in Poland.

"For the first time in my political career I have heard politicians openly declaring that the refugees heading to Europe are their method of getting (us) to act a certain way," Tusk told a European forum in Sopot town on Poland's Baltic coast.

"Some say that it's their method of weakening Europe as a political entity," added Tusk.

The former Polish prime minister did not name names or detail what kind of "behaviour" he was talking about, contenting himself with inviting his audience to "draw your own conclusions."

He also argued that the "military solutions in Syria proposed by some countries" risked forcing the eight million Syrians displaced within their country to follow the thousands of their compatriots seeking a new life in Europe each week.

"The refugees have become an element in the political battleground and sometimes.. they become a trading item, a new element in the hybrid war of which we have seen the first signs in Crimea and Donbass," he added.

Russia last year annexed Crimea from Ukraine, an act which was followed by pro-Russian rebels fighting Kiev forces in eastern Ukraine areas such as Donbass.

"I am not only talking about Russia," Tusk assured.

The term 'hybrid war' had already been used elsewhere to describe the conflict in east Ukraine where Russia denies any military involvement.

Tusk also spoke against the growing trend among European nations to erect new barriers to keep out the migrants from Syria and elsewhere, warning against building new "walls" which threaten the border-free Schengen area.

http://www.france24.com/en/20151003-foreign-leaders-using-europes-refugee-crisis-tusk

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:00 pm

Sweden: 'No Apartments, No Jobs, No Shopping Without a Gun'

During the last few decades, Swedes have had to get used to the government (left and right wing parties alike) prioritizing refugees and migrants above native Swedes. The high tax level (the average worker pays 42% income tax) was been accepted in the past, because people knew that if they got sick, or when they retired or otherwise needed government aid, they would get it.

Now, Swedes see the welfare system failing them. More and more senior citizens fall into the "indigent" category; close to 800,000 of Sweden's 2.1 million retirees, despite having worked their whole lives, are forced to live on between 4,500 and 5,500 kronor ($545 - $665) a month. Meanwhile, seniors who immigrate to Sweden receive the so-called "elderly support subsidy" -- usually a higher amount -- even though they have never paid any taxes in Sweden.

Worse, in 2013 the government decided that people staying in the country illegally have a right to virtually free health and dental care. So while the destitute Swedish senior citizen must choose between paying 100,000 kronor ($12,000) to get new teeth or living toothless, a person who does not even have the right to stay in Sweden can get his teeth fixed for 50 kronor ($6).

The injustice, the housing shortage, the chaos surrounding refugee housing units and the sharp slide of Swedish students in PISA tests -- all these changes have caused the Swedes to become disillusioned. The last straw was that Prime Minister Löfven had nothing to say about the murders at IKEA.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6607/sweden-migrants-fear

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:06 pm

Hamburg has become the first German city to pass a law allowing the state to seize empty commercial properties for reuse as emergency migrant accommodation. The move comes as more violence is reported in refugee centres across the country.

Called the “Law for the protection of refugees in accommodation facilities ” the legislation was passed last night, just 24-hours after some 200 Syrian and Afghan refugees clashed in a crowded refugee centre in the city, leaving four people injured in the third such riot this week.

The massive influx of migrants has put pressure on a city that is already home to 1.7 million people and authorities have moved to find accommodation for the incomers. Some are sleeping rough outdoors leading to local tensions and inter-ethnic rivalries.

The Hamburg centre that saw the clash between Syrians and Afghans is located in a large former hardware store and houses 800 people, with more recent arrivals sleeping on mattresses outside.

In earlier disturbances in Germany this week, DW news service reports 14 people were injured Sunday in a centre in the central city of Kassel when 70 Pakistanis clashed with 300 Albanians.

On Tuesday, dozens of Syrians and Pakistanis came to blows in a refugee shelter in the eastern city of Dresden.

Hamburg’s law is described as a temporary, emergency measure. Owners of empty commercial properties will be compensated. The law does not include residential properties but the conservative opposition in the city, in the north of Germany, condemned the move.

The authorities in Bremen, a city just west of Hamburg, are considering passing a similar law.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/02/hamburg-to-seize-empty-commercial-properties-for-migrant-housing/

by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:36 pm

The lefties will ignore the truth of these things smelly...

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:39 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

The lefties will ignore the truth of these things smelly...

and when its them and theirs feeling the effacts they will blame the BNP or the RW or societys inability to surrender fast enough

by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:57 pm

Need to quickly start setting up UN safe zone camps for these people in their respective countries and removing these people to them.

Or remove them back to either the Arab league to receive and deal with, the African union, or their other respective countries govts to deal with.

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:21 pm

too late

the EU is finished as we know it, the dream of a united,peaceful,porsperous union

in fact this demonstrates exactly why multiculturalism cannot and has never worked

by veya_victaous Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:16 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:too late

the EU is finished as we know it, the dream of a united,peaceful,porsperous union

in fact this demonstrates exactly why multiculturalism cannot and has never worked

it has only failed in continents with high populations of racist primitives.

Quite successful in Civilized nations RIP europe - Page 5 3893789544

One more reason to declare Europe Terra Nullius RIP europe - Page 5 112848305

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:29 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:too late

the EU is finished as we know it, the dream of a united,peaceful,porsperous union

in fact this demonstrates exactly why multiculturalism cannot and has never worked

it has only failed in continents with high populations of racist primitives.

Quite successful in Civilized nations

One more reason to declare Europe Terra Nullius

Not one single country on earth has successful multiculturalism buddy

Australia least of all

by veya_victaous Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:35 pm

yes we have
we are a Successful Multicultural country

statically better than the UK at everything since we adopted Multiculturalism in 1970's... 45 odd years ago.
like triple the amount of immigration the UK has higher economic growth, higher personal wealth, better health care, longer life expectancy better education, Every single measureable factor we now beat you when we were worse 40 years ago

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:01 pm

no veya..you got better in spite of multiculturalism...NOT because of it

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:02 pm

weve had a longer run of asshole politicians than you.....

by veya_victaous Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:20 pm

No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:30 pm

veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and wonder why anyone would be proud to be British and associated with their views. They disgust me.

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:38 pm

veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

Same here. I think my soul would slowly die in a place like the UK Smile

by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:49 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

Same here. I think my soul would slowly die in a place like the UK

Luckily Ben there are a huge number of people that don't think like them, hence all the help being given for refugess all across Britain. But I can't be proud of a country that has such xenophibic and backward views in it. And the sad thing is, they do it every time a refugee crisis emerges. They did it for Jews and Europeans during and at the end of WWII, they did it to the Polish men who had actually fought for us, they did it for Ugandan Asians when nearly 60,000 of them came, and they will always do it, because the very worst part of the British psyche is fear of change.

by veya_victaous Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:02 am

sassy wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

Same here. I think my soul would slowly die in a place like the UK

Luckily Ben there are a huge number of people that don't think like them, hence all the help being given for refugess all across Britain. But I can't be proud of a country that has such xenophibic and backward views in it. And the sad thing is, they do it every time a refugee crisis emerges. They did it for Jews and Europeans during and at the end of WWII, they did it to the Polish men who had actually fought for us, they did it for Ugandan Asians when nearly 60,000 of them came, and they will always do it, because the very worst part of the British psyche is fear of change.

I agree and that is why Multiculturalism has made us so much better
it has removed what with hindsight is a massive weaknesses in British Culture.
and replaced it with adaptability which i am sure will serve us better into the future.

I find it funny that people like smelly try and say it is failure, when the UK only started it because of how successful it has been in nations like Australia, New Zealand and America. literally so insulated they think they are doing something new when they are specifically trying to replicate the success of others. Rolling Eyes

it's not new it's not an experiment, the UK is the slowest adopter of multiculturalism in the English speaking world.

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:15 am

veya_victaous wrote:
sassy wrote:

Luckily Ben there are a huge number of people that don't think like them, hence all the help being given for refugess all across Britain. But I can't be proud of a country that has such xenophibic and backward views in it. And the sad thing is, they do it every time a refugee crisis emerges. They did it for Jews and Europeans during and at the end of WWII, they did it to the Polish men who had actually fought for us, they did it for Ugandan Asians when nearly 60,000 of them came, and they will always do it, because the very worst part of the British psyche is fear of change.

I agree and that is why Multiculturalism has made us so much better
it has removed what with hindsight is a massive weaknesses in British Culture.
and replaced it with adaptability which i am sure will serve us better into the future.

I find it funny that people like smelly try and say it is failure, when the UK only started it because of how successful it has been in nations like Australia, New Zealand and America. literally so insulated they think they are doing something new when they are specifically trying to replicate the success of others. it's not new it's not an experiment, the UK is the slowest adopter of multiculturalism in the English speaking world.

Well the daftest thing about Smelly is, he's an immigrant from South Africa.

And don't take all that army guff - he's a paintballer lol

by veya_victaous Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:16 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:too late

the EU is finished as we know it, the dream of a united,peaceful,porsperous union

in fact this demonstrates exactly why multiculturalism cannot and has never worked

it has only failed in continents with high populations of racist primitives.

Quite successful in Civilized nations

One more reason to declare Europe Terra Nullius

Not one single country on earth has successful multiculturalism buddy

Australia least of all

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:55 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

Same here. I think my soul would slowly die in a place like the UK

Be fair, at least you would have the chance as there isn't a mad fucker with a gun round every corner.

by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:34 am

I find it quite amusing that the most outspoken person against the refugee issue on here is Victor, and yet nobody actually points the finger at him directly. Laughing

by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:35 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

Same here. I think my soul would slowly die in a place like the UK

Aren't you always bleating on about bigotry and racism in your corner of the world? Your soul should have been dead years ago.

by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:41 am

veya_victaous wrote:
sassy wrote:

Luckily Ben there are a huge number of people that don't think like them, hence all the help being given for refugess all across Britain. But I can't be proud of a country that has such xenophibic and backward views in it. And the sad thing is, they do it every time a refugee crisis emerges. They did it for Jews and Europeans during and at the end of WWII, they did it to the Polish men who had actually fought for us, they did it for Ugandan Asians when nearly 60,000 of them came, and they will always do it, because the very worst part of the British psyche is fear of change.

I agree and that is why Multiculturalism has made us so much better
it has removed what with hindsight is a massive weaknesses in British Culture.
and replaced it with adaptability which i am sure will serve us better into the future.

I find it funny that people like smelly try and say it is failure, when the UK only started it because of how successful it has been in nations like Australia, New Zealand and America. literally so insulated they think they are doing something new when they are specifically trying to replicate the success of others. it's not new it's not an experiment, the UK is the slowest adopter of multiculturalism in the English speaking world.

Nearly everyone I met in New Zealand wanted to go to Europe. I also met a few who didn't like Samoans very much.

by nicko Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:17 am

I don,t like Yanks, over paid, over fed and over here!

by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:25 am

nicko wrote:I don,t like Yanks, over paid, over fed and over here!

Quite right nicko. The Brits on here get a bashing most of the time - often from other Brits. It's about time the Americans got an earful. Laughing

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:54 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

Same here. I think my soul would slowly die in a place like the UK

Aren't you always bleating on about bigotry and racism in your corner of the world? Your soul should have been dead years ago.

Ben's never been here so it seems, but he has a really racist view of us . In our church there is a family the dad is from Texas , he loves it here and highly praises the hospitality of the Brits Laughing

by nicko Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:16 pm

"My soul would slowly die" Have you ever been to England? I don,t mean London or any big city.
Come to the The Vale of Evesham or The country around Stratford-upon- Avon or the Severn Valley, The Lake District ect. Don't go into Stratford, [ it,s full of Americans]. Texas is hot and dry isn,t it?
You have never seen a beautiful country like ours.

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:17 pm

I doubt it's the landscape he was talking about.

by nicko Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:18 pm

What was he on about then?

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:20 pm

The xenophobic, backward and bigotted views expressed by the large number of the british on here. Gives a very nasty view of us.

by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:21 pm

The realisation of the true levels of mass immigration and how it's ruining the country...

by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:35 pm

Ben has no room to talk, considering the way he moans on about those things being prevalent where he is.

I'm quite happy for such a hypocrite to stay away from this country.

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:39 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

Same here. I think my soul would slowly die in a place like the UK

Nah, i would welcome you guys and shows there is much more to the Uk than some of the drones you have had the displeasure to meet on here Ben. There is countless people in this country even more so the younger generation that are way much more Liberal.
My generation which has many pessimists will be one of the last generations that has many bigots more so than those Liberal.
I see a brighter future one with much less hate

Laughing

by eddie Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:48 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

Same here. I think my soul would slowly die in a place like the UK

Well,perhaps it's because you both live in places that have lots of space and room for everyone and it's not over-crowded?
Perhaps,you have never ever been affected by housing issues or school places for your children?

Like I always say; how can you judge something properly, if you've never lived it?

You both spout alot of crap about the UK but yet you don't live here, haven't experienced anything that other's have and have no real concept of life here??
Your opinions are based on what, exactly?

Oh yeah. Stuff you've read. Rolling Eyes

Edit:

I'd like to ensure Ben and veya, read this (from an article on another thread) and then tell me how it couldn't fail to make people upset:

[snipped]The Home Secretary told her party's conference that immigrants can make it "difficult for schools and hospitals and core infrastructure like housing and transport to cope"[snipped]

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:35 pm

veya_victaous wrote:No Victor Multiculturalism is what makes us great. Many migrants have become irreplaceable assets to modern Australia, particularly Asian and Indian decent, one could not imagine a modern Australia without them.

Simple as that, we have broader skills and natural proficiency due to broader cultural background, and more open to change and opportunity. More able exploit opportunity, better at dealing internationally.

Not weighted down by ineffective traditions. adaptive and responsive to change. greater art and culture through exposure to more of the worlds arts and cultures. this has also increased the Secularist ideals, equality and freedoms.

Quite frankly I look at the 'insulated' attitude of many British posters here and Thank the Great Rainbow Serpent to be born in a vibrant multicultural nation.

wrong

multiculturalism makes you cuturally weak and socially devided

the host nations culture is forced to dilute in order to accomadate inferior and or barbaric cultural practices and customs

you a fan of FGM??

how about forced marriage??

how about honour killings??

how about polygamy??

100 lashes for adultery??

if you arent a fan of them then you cannot tell us that multicultrualism strengthens us, and indeed your own argument doesnt even support itself since you are attaching different SKILLS to different CULTURES almost as if you think that engineeering is a cultural custom - a strange nation

stranger still is your belief that multiculturalism increase secular thinking - an idea that is utterly incompatible with multiculturalims since many of the cultures covered by "multiculturalims" are religious in nature

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:41 pm

Identity threatens identitySome common traits can be found in most forms of ascription of collective identities in terms of either nationality, culture, religion or other broad categories. One of these mechanisms is self-righteousnes (Vetlesen 2006). By stereotyping others, one also stereotypes oneself, and the trait sone ascribes to one’s own collective mentality are always viewed in a positive light when compared to that of others. Because the other group possesses distinctly negative traits, all references to them as inferior become a form of self-righteousness. This self-righteousness legitimises the exclusion of‘the others’. When such exclusion is performed on behalf of one’s own group and the values one believes it to represent, it gives rise to a form of morality and loyalty that is part and parcel of the discrimination of others. There is, quite simply, nothing really wrong in excluding those who hold ‘bad’ values.

When related to self-righteousness, the assignment of blame is an important mechanism in the formation of group identity. The other group is to blame for society having changed, for unemployment, for insecurity, etc. By virtue of its guilt, the other group poses a threat to the established order. A third mechanism in polarising group stereotypification is the selection of certain key identity markers, i.e. symbolic issues that are effective in the group formation process(Ibid). Key identity markers are used to emphasise the group’s core identity. The mechanisms ofself-righteousness, assignment of blame and the use of key identity markers will clearly emerge from comparisons between stereotypes in the anti-Semitism of the last century and those in today’s anti-Islamic debate.

Some never learn from history.

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:49 pm

Sudanese refugee appears in Nottingham court accused of raping woman

A Sudanese refugee has appeared in court charged with the rape of a woman last weekend.

Osman Suliman, 20, of Gregory Boulevard, appeared before Nottingham Magistrates' Court on Saturday.

He is alleged to have raped the woman on September 26.

Prosecutor Sanjay Jerath told magistrates Suliman has been in the country for five months after seeking asylum from Sudan

http://www.nottinghampost.com/Sudanese-refugee-appears-Nottingham-court-accused/story-27915028-detail/story.html

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:50 pm

Police Chief: Delinquent Muslim Migrants Don’t Integrate, Generally Disrespect Western Cultures

A German police commissioner has told an audience of how “delinquent”, mainly Muslim migrants refuse to accommodate to their host nations, adding: “We have an increasing number of migrants in Germany, and many have not learned to have respect for women and the state. They live in parallel societies, where different rules apply.”

Tania Kambouri, who has written of her experiences in her role as a police chief in a new book, said that there is a “taboo” around multiculturalism and those coming from Islamic countries, though she was keen to stress that her comments were not racially motivated, according to Die Welt.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/05/police-chief-delinquent-Muslim-migrants-dont-integrate/

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:52 pm

Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan vowed to “crush” Kurdish “terrorists” and harangued the EU over its handling of the migrant crisis at two rallies on Sunday (4 October).

The first event, in Strasbourg, France, saw about 12,000 French, German, Belgian, and Swiss-origin Turkish supporters hear him speak on counter-terrorism, the AFP news agency reports.

He didn’t mention Islamic State.

But he vowed to “crush” the PKK, the Kurdish separatist movement.

He also accused the EU of doing little to help Turkey share the “burden” of Syrian refugees.

His speech had an Islamist and anti-European tone.

https://euobserver.com/justice/130544

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:52 pm

Integration chief: “Refugees see work as a ‘punishment'”

“Integration Chief: Refugees sees work as a punishment. They see social welfare as money they get anyway, and work as a punishment that comes afterwards, unless you find a way to avoid it,’ says Eskild Dahl after eight years of work in (the Muslim ghetto) Mjølnerparken. …

Eskild Dahl acknowledges that 8 years with a special local job center branch and a special ‘forward-effort’ has not made people find jobs.”

http://ekstrabladet.dk/nationen/integrationschef-flygtninge-ser-arbejde-som-en-straf/5766077

by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:53 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcltV7r-nM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

by Guest Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:53 pm

And the dalek just backs up the fear even more.
We have two extremes here, one far right, in the Dalek, that promotes an atmosphere of fear around crimes committed by some individuals as if this means countless refugees should be denied. Its at best idiotic, as by his methodology, no tourists, buisness people, migrants etc should then ever be allowed to gain entry into a nation based on the fear some may commit crime. Hence his point is moot, contradictive and based on prejudice, nothing more.

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