RIP europe

by Guest Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:47 pm

First topic message reminder :

Europe gets 8,000 refugees daily - UN

A daily flow of about 8,000 refugees to Europe is likely to continue, the United Nations warns.

The figure came from UN regional coordinator for refugees, Amin Awad, in comments quoted by Reuters news agency.

More than 5,000 refugees - many from Syria or Iraq - arrive daily in Greece.

That flow could continue during the winter if the weather remains good and the borders open, the International Organisation for Migration (IOM) told the BBC.

About half a million migrants - mostly from Syria and other conflict zones in the Middle East and Africa - have arrived in Europe this year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34356758

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:43 pm

iran is shia

saudi is sunni

which is what i said - sectarianism

jesus youre stupid

lol!

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:47 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:iran is shia

saudi is sunni

which is what i said - sectarianism

jesus youre stupid

Yes you are stupid smelly, as this is two nations trying to erupt many other Muslims in an all out war between the two sects of islam
You say the Muslims are constantly at war with other, but this is incorrect.
Saudi through exporting wahhabism by trying to dominate being the creation of Al-qaeda, the Taliban, ISIS etc. Where as Iran with Hamas and Hezbollah.
So they are trying to pull all Muslims in when many Muslims want no part of this religious war.
This is more about power and dominance

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:02 pm

yes walter

thats called SECTarianism

you do realise all youre doing is repeating me??

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:02 pm

'Who will pay for that?' - migrants clog east Europe trade routes

Border closures and tighter controls caused by record numbers of migrants are clogging up trade in southeast and central Europe, driving up costs and forcing transport companies to seek other routes.

Freight traffic through Serbia was severely disrupted when Hungary and Croatia closed their borders last month to cope with tens of thousands of migrants, most bound for richer nations further north.

The clampdown hit not just Serbian and Croatian trucks but also cargo in transit from other countries to the south, including Macedonia, Turkey, Greece and Bulgaria.

Aleksandar Momcilovic drives a truck carrying sunflower meal and soy meal from Serbia to Italy. Usually it takes eight hours to reach Italy, his final destination near Genoa.

But last week he spent almost three days at the border between Serbia and Croatia. His company may have to pay a penalty for not delivering on time:

"Who is going to pay for that?"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/02/us-europe-migrants-transportation-idUSKCN0RW11920151002

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:09 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:yes walter

thats called SECTarianism

you do realise all youre doing is repeating me??

lol this is a the person who once argued with me that such conflicts were not sectarian, but I know you will a attempt to claim otherwise lol

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:23 pm

yeah thats what i said sectarianism

islam - The split which demands blood be shed

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:27 pm

Oh dear.
So why is it there been far more wars, conflicts and blodoshed spilt by Christian nations then dalek?
Are you then in agrrement with me that religious beliefs are dangereos in the literal sense as they allow for people to enforce their religious views, not matter whether Christian or Muslim?

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:38 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:I'd like to know what didge thinks of these violent happenings?

Does he thinks it's ok? Does he think it won't happen here?

And one other thing: if you,look at every Muslim country, there is war.

WHY IS THAT?

What do I think.
I think you are way too easily led by fear by some minor incidents.
So there was a brawl, and some other incidents, not surprising when many refugees are crammed into confined spaces. It was bound to happen there would be some minor incidents, but are you seriously eqauting this to being a disater?

Really every Muslin country is at war?

List them?

Seriously you need to stop buying up the drivel that smelly has been feeding you for months.
Its intent is to incite and divide people because he has similar goals to ISIS a world wide war, between Muslims and Non-Muslims. He has been spoutinga nd wishing the same crap for years

I tell you what, YOU LIST THE ONES THAT ARENT.

And didge? I heard it out of the mouths of the refugees on the panorama programme: Muslims are killing people in their country - putting heads on poles and sticking the poles into the ground.

So you tell me, WHY do they need to kill people all the time?

Perhaps it's you, that isn't wanting to learn the truth didge. I've been on the fence a long time over this and allowed myself to see both sides.

Now though, it struck me: WHEN HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TIME WHEN Muslims WERE NOT FIGHTING EACHOTHER OR OTHERS?l
Make a list didge; you're good at research - make a list of countries that are at war and ones that aren't, Muslim wars.

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:51 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

What do I think.
I think you are way too easily led by fear by some minor incidents.
So there was a brawl, and some other incidents, not surprising when many refugees are crammed into confined spaces. It was bound to happen there would be some minor incidents, but are you seriously eqauting this to being a disater?

Really every Muslin country is at war?

List them?

Seriously you need to stop buying up the drivel that smelly has been feeding you for months.
Its intent is to incite and divide people because he has similar goals to ISIS a world wide war, between Muslims and Non-Muslims. He has been spoutinga nd wishing the same crap for years

I tell you what, YOU LIST THE ONES THAT ARENT.
Wow so shouting is your counter now.
I can show you hundreds of thousands that are not, because you have seen isolated incidents and you poorly play off them because you are easily led by those you promote fear. The same claim of manipulation smelly makes of the media is donw by those of the media in the likes of the Mail, Express and others and you but it all up. That is your faily not mine

And didge? I heard it out of the mouths of the refugees on the panorama programme: Muslims are killing people in their country - putting heads on poles and sticking the poles into the ground.
Yes some Muslims are killing other Muslims. You said every country, well by that reasoning in every Christian country Christians are killing Christians, because people murder others. Its an absurd stance which you fail to understand why some conflicts have arisen.

So you tell me, WHY do they need to kill people all the time?
Hate, the same hate that smelly tries to promote, one feeds off the other. There is also a religious connection. There is also a political connection. There is also many aspects, fear, vengence etc

Perhaps it's you, that isn't wanting to learn the truth didge. I've been on the fence a long time over this and allowed myself to see both sides.
Because some London girl who never ventures further than some holidays thinks she knows more based off a small select group of people she knows? Its about understanding many reasons that conflicts occur which have happened for thousands of years. Its about control, always those wanting power and control

Now though, it struck me: WHEN HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TIME WHEN Muslims WERE NOT FIGHTING EACHOTHER OR OTHERS?l
Was there ever a time when Christians have not been fighting?
What a dumb idiotic point to make. Do you know how many years Europe has seen peace in over 2,000 years? In over 3,400 years world over the world has seen peace 268 years.
How many conflicts has Europe and American been involved in the last 100 years?
Do you want me to list them?

Make a list didge; you're good at research - make a list of countries that are at war and ones that aren't, Muslim wars.

I can make a list Eddie, but do you really want me to, as I think you may look stupid
Let me know

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:52 pm

which "christian" nations walter??

RIP europe - Page 4 Bear_t10

dont be afraid to answer

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:55 pm

Here is a graphic depiction of U.S. wars:
RIP europe - Page 4 US-war-graph.jpg?zoom=1

And here is the year-by-year timeline of America’s major wars:
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Year-by-year Timeline of America’s Major Wars (1776-2011)

1776 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamagua Wars, Second Cherokee War, Pennamite-Yankee War
1777 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Second Cherokee War, Pennamite-Yankee War
1778 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1779 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1780 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1781 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1782 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1783 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1784 – Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War, Oconee War
1785 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1786 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1787 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1788 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1789 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1790 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1791 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1792 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1793 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1794 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1795 – Northwest Indian War
1796 – No major war
1797 – No major war
1798 – Quasi-War
1799 – Quasi-War
1800 – Quasi-War
1801 – First Barbary War
1802 – First Barbary War
1803 – First Barbary War
1804 – First Barbary War
1805 – First Barbary War
1806 – Sabine Expedition
1807 – No major war
1808 – No major war
1809 – No major war
1810 – U.S. occupies Spanish-held West Florida
1811 – Tecumseh’s War
1812 – War of 1812, Tecumseh’s War, Seminole Wars, U.S. occupies Spanish-held Amelia Island and other parts of East Florida
1813 – War of 1812, Tecumseh’s War, Peoria War, Creek War, U.S. expands its territory in West Florida
1814 – War of 1812, Creek War, U.S. expands its territory in Florida, Anti-piracy war
1815 – War of 1812, Second Barbary War, Anti-piracy war
1816 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
1817 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
1818 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
1819 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
1820 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
1821 – Anti-piracy war (see note above)
1822 – Anti-piracy war (see note above)
1823 – Anti-piracy war, Arikara War
1824 – Anti-piracy war
1825 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
1826 – No major war
1827 – Winnebago War
1828 – No major war
1829 – No major war
1830 – No major war
1831 – Sac and Fox Indian War
1832 – Black Hawk War
1833 – Cherokee Indian War
1834 – Cherokee Indian War, Pawnee Indian Territory Campaign
1835 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War
1836 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War, Missouri-Iowa Border War
1837 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War, Osage Indian War, Buckshot War
1838 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Buckshot War, Heatherly Indian War
1839 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars
1840 – Seminole Wars, U.S. naval forces invade Fiji Islands
1841 – Seminole Wars, U.S. naval forces invade McKean Island, Gilbert Islands, and Samoa
1842 – Seminole Wars
1843 – U.S. forces clash with Chinese, U.S. troops invade African coast
1844 – Texas-Indian Wars
1845 – Texas-Indian Wars
1846 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars
1847 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars
1848 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War
1849 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians
1850 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, California Indian Wars, Pitt River Expedition
1851 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, California Indian Wars
1852 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, California Indian Wars
1853 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, Walker War, California Indian Wars
1854 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians
1855 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Yakima War, Winnas Expedition, Klickitat War, Puget Sound War, Rogue River Wars, U.S. forces invade Fiji Islands and Uruguay
1856 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Puget Sound War, Rogue River Wars, Tintic War
1857 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Utah War, Conflict in Nicaragua
1858 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Mohave War, California Indian Wars, Spokane-Coeur d’Alene-Paloos War, Utah War, U.S. forces invade Fiji Islands and Uruguay
1859 Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Pecos Expedition, Antelope Hills Expedition, Bear River Expedition, John Brown’s raid, U.S. forces launch attack against Paraguay, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1860 – Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Paiute War, Kiowa-Comanche War
1861 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign
1862 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Dakota War of 1862,
1863 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Colorado War, Goshute War
1864 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Colorado War, Snake War
1865 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Colorado War, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War
1866 – Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Franklin County War, U.S. invades Mexico, Conflict with China
1867 – Texas-Indian Wars, Long Walk of the Navajo, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War, U.S. troops occupy Nicaragua and attack Taiwan
1868 – Texas-Indian Wars, Long Walk of the Navajo, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Comanche Wars, Battle of Washita River, Franklin County War
1869 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War
1870 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War
1871 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War, Kingsley Cave Massacre, U.S. forces invade Korea
1872 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Modoc War, Franklin County War
1873 – Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Modoc War, Apache Wars, Cypress Hills Massacre, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1874 – Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Red River War, Mason County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1875 – Conflict in Mexico, Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Eastern Nevada, Mason County War, Colfax County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1876 – Texas-Indian Wars, Black Hills War, Mason County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1877 – Texas-Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Black Hills War, Nez Perce War, Mason County War, Lincoln County War, San Elizario Salt War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1878 – Paiute Indian conflict, Bannock War, Cheyenne War, Lincoln County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1879 – Cheyenne War, Sheepeater Indian War, White River War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1880 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1881 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1882 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1883 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1884 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1885 – Apache Wars, Eastern Nevada Expedition, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1886 – Apache Wars, Pleasant Valley War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1887 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1888 – U.S. show of force against Haiti, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1889 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1890 – Sioux Indian War, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Ghost Dance War, Wounded Knee, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1891 – Sioux Indian War, Ghost Dance War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1892 – Johnson County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1893 – U.S. forces invade Mexico and Hawaii
1894 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1895 – U.S. forces invade Mexico, Bannock Indian Disturbances
1896 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1897 – No major war
1898 – Spanish-American War, Battle of Leech Lake, Chippewa Indian Disturbances
1899 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1900 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1901 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1902 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1903 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1904 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1905 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1906 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1907 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1908 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1909 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1910 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1911 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1912 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1913 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars, New Mexico Navajo War
1914 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
1915 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico, Colorado Paiute War
1916 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
1917 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S. invades Mexico
1918 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S invades Mexico
1919 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
1920 – Banana Wars
1921 – Banana Wars
1922 – Banana Wars
1923 – Banana Wars, Posey War
1924 – Banana Wars
1925 – Banana Wars
1926 – Banana Wars
1927 – Banana Wars
1928 – Banana Wars
1930 – Banana Wars
1931 – Banana Wars
1932 – Banana Wars
1933 – Banana Wars
1934 – Banana Wars
1935 – No major war
1936 – No major war
1937 – No major war
1938 – No major war
1939 – No major war
1940 – No major war
1941 – World War II
1942 – World War II
1943 – Wold War II
1944 – World War II
1945 – World War II
1946 – Cold War (U.S. occupies the Philippines and South Korea)
1947 – Cold War (U.S. occupies South Korea, U.S. forces land in Greece to fight Communists)
1948 – Cold War (U.S. forces aid Chinese Nationalist Party against Communists)
1949 – Cold War (U.S. forces aid Chinese Nationalist Party against Communists)
1950 – Korean War, Jayuga Uprising
1951 – Korean War
1952 – Korean War
1953 – Korean War
1954 – Covert War in Guatemala
1955 – Vietnam War
1956 – Vietnam War
1957 – Vietnam War
1958 – Vietnam War
1959 – Vietnam War, Conflict in Haiti
1960 – Vietam War
1961 – Vietnam War
1962 – Vietnam War, Cold War (Cuban Missile Crisis; U.S. marines fight Communists in Thailand)
1963 – Vietnam War
1964 – Vietnam War
1965 – Vietnam War, U.S. occupation of Dominican Republic
1966 – Vietnam War, U.S. occupation of Dominican Republic
1967 – Vietnam War
1968 – Vietnam War
1969 – Vietnam War
1970 – Vietnam War
1971 – Vietnam War
1972 – Vietnam War
1973 – Vietnam War, U.S. aids Israel in Yom Kippur War
1974 – Vietnam War
1975 – Vietnam War
1976 – No major war
1977 – No major war
1978 – No major war
1979 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan)
1980 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan)
1981 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), First Gulf of Sidra Incident
1982 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Lebanon
1983 – Cold War (Invasion of Grenada, CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Lebanon
1984 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Persian Gulf
1985 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua)
1986 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua)
1987 – Conflict in Persian Gulf
1988 – Conflict in Persian Gulf, U.S. occupation of Panama
1989 – Second Gulf of Sidra Incident, U.S. occupation of Panama, Conflict in Philippines
1990 – First Gulf War, U.S. occupation of Panama
1991 – First Gulf War
1992 – Conflict in Iraq
1993 – Conflict in Iraq
1994 – Conflict in Iraq, U.S. invades Haiti
1995 – Conflict in Iraq, U.S. invades Haiti, NATO bombing of Bosnia and Herzegovina
1996 – Conflict in Iraq
1997 – No major war
1998 – Bombing of Iraq, Missile strikes against Afghanistan and Sudan
1999 – Kosovo War
2000 – No major war
2001 – War on Terror in Afghanistan
2002 – War on Terror in Afghanistan and Yemen
2003 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, and Iraq
2004 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2005 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2006 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2007 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen
2008 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2009 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2010 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2011 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen; Conflict in Libya (Libyan Civil War)
In most of these wars, the U.S. was on the offense. Danios admits that some of the wars were defensive. However, Danios also leaves out covert CIA operations and other acts which could be considered war.
Let’s update what’s happened since 2011:

2012 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen
2013 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen
2014 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen; Civil War in Ukraine
2015 – War on Terror in Somalia, Somalia, Syria and Yemen; Civil War in Ukraine

So we can add 4 more years of war. That means that for 222 out of 239 years – or 93% of the time – America has been at war. (We can quibble with the exact numbers, but the high percentage of time that America has been at war is clear and unmistakable.)

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:01 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

What do I think.
I think you are way too easily led by fear by some minor incidents.
So there was a brawl, and some other incidents, not surprising when many refugees are crammed into confined spaces. It was bound to happen there would be some minor incidents, but are you seriously eqauting this to being a disater?

Really every Muslin country is at war?

List them?

Seriously you need to stop buying up the drivel that smelly has been feeding you for months.
Its intent is to incite and divide people because he has similar goals to ISIS a world wide war, between Muslims and Non-Muslims. He has been spoutinga nd wishing the same crap for years

I tell you what, YOU LIST THE ONES THAT ARENT.
Wow so shouting is your counter now.
I can show you hundreds of thousands that are not, because you have seen isolated incidents and you poorly play off them because you are easily led by those you promote fear. The same claim of manipulation smelly makes of the media is donw by those of the media in the likes of the Mail, Express and others and you but it all up. That is your faily not mine

And didge? I heard it out of the mouths of the refugees on the panorama programme: Muslims are killing people in their country - putting heads on poles and sticking the poles into the ground.
Yes some Muslims are killing other Muslims. You said every country, well by that reasoning in every Christian country Christians are killing Christians, because people murder others. Its an absurd stance which you fail to understand why some conflicts have arisen.

So you tell me, WHY do they need to kill people all the time?
Hate, the same hate that smelly tries to promote, one feeds off the other. There is also a religious connection. There is also a political connection. There is also many aspects, fear, vengence etc

Perhaps it's you, that isn't wanting to learn the truth didge. I've been on the fence a long time over this and allowed myself to see both sides.
Because some London girl who never ventures further than some holidays thinks she knows more based off a small select group of people she knows? Its about understanding many reasons that conflicts occur which have happened for thousands of years. Its about control, always those wanting power and control

Now though, it struck me: WHEN HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TIME WHEN Muslims WERE NOT FIGHTING EACHOTHER OR OTHERS?l
Was there ever a time when Christians have not been fighting?
What a dumb idiotic point to make. Do you know how many years Europe has seen peace in over 2,000 years? In over 3,400 years world over the world has seen peace 268 years.
How many conflicts has Europe and American been involved in the last 100 years?
Do you want me to list them?

Make a list didge; you're good at research - make a list of countries that are at war and ones that aren't, Muslim wars.

I can make a list Eddie, but do you really want me to, as I think you may look stupid
Let me know

Yes please didge. I'd like a list.

I may be a stupid girl from London who according to you, hasn't been anywhere (oh how you like to belittle me didge!), but as I've said, I've always open to opinions.....

Especially on this

And by the way didge, I always admit that politics aren't my strong point so it's not as though I'm being overly opinionated on this.
I think you were a little unfair on me actually

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:03 pm

Cuchulain wrote:Here is a graphic depiction of U.S. wars:

And here is the year-by-year timeline of America’s major wars:
****
Year-by-year Timeline of America’s Major Wars (1776-2011)

1776 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamagua Wars, Second Cherokee War, Pennamite-Yankee War
1777 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Second Cherokee War, Pennamite-Yankee War
1778 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1779 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1780 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1781 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1782 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1783 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
1784 – Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War, Oconee War
1785 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1786 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1787 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1788 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1789 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1790 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1791 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1792 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1793 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1794 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
1795 – Northwest Indian War
1796 – No major war
1797 – No major war
1798 – Quasi-War
1799 – Quasi-War
1800 – Quasi-War
1801 – First Barbary War
1802 – First Barbary War
1803 – First Barbary War
1804 – First Barbary War
1805 – First Barbary War
1806 – Sabine Expedition
1807 – No major war
1808 – No major war
1809 – No major war
1810 – U.S. occupies Spanish-held West Florida
1811 – Tecumseh’s War
1812 – War of 1812, Tecumseh’s War, Seminole Wars, U.S. occupies Spanish-held Amelia Island and other parts of East Florida
1813 – War of 1812, Tecumseh’s War, Peoria War, Creek War, U.S. expands its territory in West Florida
1814 – War of 1812, Creek War, U.S. expands its territory in Florida, Anti-piracy war
1815 – War of 1812, Second Barbary War, Anti-piracy war
1816 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
1817 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
1818 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
1819 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
1820 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
1821 – Anti-piracy war (see note above)
1822 – Anti-piracy war (see note above)
1823 – Anti-piracy war, Arikara War
1824 – Anti-piracy war
1825 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
1826 – No major war
1827 – Winnebago War
1828 – No major war
1829 – No major war
1830 – No major war
1831 – Sac and Fox Indian War
1832 – Black Hawk War
1833 – Cherokee Indian War
1834 – Cherokee Indian War, Pawnee Indian Territory Campaign
1835 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War
1836 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War, Missouri-Iowa Border War
1837 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War, Osage Indian War, Buckshot War
1838 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Buckshot War, Heatherly Indian War
1839 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars
1840 – Seminole Wars, U.S. naval forces invade Fiji Islands
1841 – Seminole Wars, U.S. naval forces invade McKean Island, Gilbert Islands, and Samoa
1842 – Seminole Wars
1843 – U.S. forces clash with Chinese, U.S. troops invade African coast
1844 – Texas-Indian Wars
1845 – Texas-Indian Wars
1846 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars
1847 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars
1848 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War
1849 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians
1850 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, California Indian Wars, Pitt River Expedition
1851 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, California Indian Wars
1852 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, California Indian Wars
1853 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, Walker War, California Indian Wars
1854 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians
1855 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Yakima War, Winnas Expedition, Klickitat War, Puget Sound War, Rogue River Wars, U.S. forces invade Fiji Islands and Uruguay
1856 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Puget Sound War, Rogue River Wars, Tintic War
1857 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Utah War, Conflict in Nicaragua
1858 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Mohave War, California Indian Wars, Spokane-Coeur d’Alene-Paloos War, Utah War, U.S. forces invade Fiji Islands and Uruguay
1859 Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Pecos Expedition, Antelope Hills Expedition, Bear River Expedition, John Brown’s raid, U.S. forces launch attack against Paraguay, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1860 – Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Paiute War, Kiowa-Comanche War
1861 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign
1862 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Dakota War of 1862,
1863 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Colorado War, Goshute War
1864 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Colorado War, Snake War
1865 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Colorado War, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War
1866 – Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Franklin County War, U.S. invades Mexico, Conflict with China
1867 – Texas-Indian Wars, Long Walk of the Navajo, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War, U.S. troops occupy Nicaragua and attack Taiwan
1868 – Texas-Indian Wars, Long Walk of the Navajo, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Comanche Wars, Battle of Washita River, Franklin County War
1869 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War
1870 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War
1871 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War, Kingsley Cave Massacre, U.S. forces invade Korea
1872 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Modoc War, Franklin County War
1873 – Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Modoc War, Apache Wars, Cypress Hills Massacre, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1874 – Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Red River War, Mason County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1875 – Conflict in Mexico, Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Eastern Nevada, Mason County War, Colfax County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1876 – Texas-Indian Wars, Black Hills War, Mason County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1877 – Texas-Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Black Hills War, Nez Perce War, Mason County War, Lincoln County War, San Elizario Salt War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1878 – Paiute Indian conflict, Bannock War, Cheyenne War, Lincoln County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1879 – Cheyenne War, Sheepeater Indian War, White River War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1880 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1881 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1882 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1883 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1884 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1885 – Apache Wars, Eastern Nevada Expedition, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1886 – Apache Wars, Pleasant Valley War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1887 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1888 – U.S. show of force against Haiti, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1889 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1890 – Sioux Indian War, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Ghost Dance War, Wounded Knee, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1891 – Sioux Indian War, Ghost Dance War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1892 – Johnson County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
1893 – U.S. forces invade Mexico and Hawaii
1894 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1895 – U.S. forces invade Mexico, Bannock Indian Disturbances
1896 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
1897 – No major war
1898 – Spanish-American War, Battle of Leech Lake, Chippewa Indian Disturbances
1899 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1900 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1901 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1902 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1903 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1904 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1905 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1906 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1907 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1908 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1909 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1910 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1911 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1912 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
1913 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars, New Mexico Navajo War
1914 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
1915 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico, Colorado Paiute War
1916 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
1917 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S. invades Mexico
1918 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S invades Mexico
1919 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
1920 – Banana Wars
1921 – Banana Wars
1922 – Banana Wars
1923 – Banana Wars, Posey War
1924 – Banana Wars
1925 – Banana Wars
1926 – Banana Wars
1927 – Banana Wars
1928 – Banana Wars
1930 – Banana Wars
1931 – Banana Wars
1932 – Banana Wars
1933 – Banana Wars
1934 – Banana Wars
1935 – No major war
1936 – No major war
1937 – No major war
1938 – No major war
1939 – No major war
1940 – No major war
1941 – World War II
1942 – World War II
1943 – Wold War II
1944 – World War II
1945 – World War II
1946 – Cold War (U.S. occupies the Philippines and South Korea)
1947 – Cold War (U.S. occupies South Korea, U.S. forces land in Greece to fight Communists)
1948 – Cold War (U.S. forces aid Chinese Nationalist Party against Communists)
1949 – Cold War (U.S. forces aid Chinese Nationalist Party against Communists)
1950 – Korean War, Jayuga Uprising
1951 – Korean War
1952 – Korean War
1953 – Korean War
1954 – Covert War in Guatemala
1955 – Vietnam War
1956 – Vietnam War
1957 – Vietnam War
1958 – Vietnam War
1959 – Vietnam War, Conflict in Haiti
1960 – Vietam War
1961 – Vietnam War
1962 – Vietnam War, Cold War (Cuban Missile Crisis; U.S. marines fight Communists in Thailand)
1963 – Vietnam War
1964 – Vietnam War
1965 – Vietnam War, U.S. occupation of Dominican Republic
1966 – Vietnam War, U.S. occupation of Dominican Republic
1967 – Vietnam War
1968 – Vietnam War
1969 – Vietnam War
1970 – Vietnam War
1971 – Vietnam War
1972 – Vietnam War
1973 – Vietnam War, U.S. aids Israel in Yom Kippur War
1974 – Vietnam War
1975 – Vietnam War
1976 – No major war
1977 – No major war
1978 – No major war
1979 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan)
1980 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan)
1981 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), First Gulf of Sidra Incident
1982 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Lebanon
1983 – Cold War (Invasion of Grenada, CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Lebanon
1984 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Persian Gulf
1985 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua)
1986 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua)
1987 – Conflict in Persian Gulf
1988 – Conflict in Persian Gulf, U.S. occupation of Panama
1989 – Second Gulf of Sidra Incident, U.S. occupation of Panama, Conflict in Philippines
1990 – First Gulf War, U.S. occupation of Panama
1991 – First Gulf War
1992 – Conflict in Iraq
1993 – Conflict in Iraq
1994 – Conflict in Iraq, U.S. invades Haiti
1995 – Conflict in Iraq, U.S. invades Haiti, NATO bombing of Bosnia and Herzegovina
1996 – Conflict in Iraq
1997 – No major war
1998 – Bombing of Iraq, Missile strikes against Afghanistan and Sudan
1999 – Kosovo War
2000 – No major war
2001 – War on Terror in Afghanistan
2002 – War on Terror in Afghanistan and Yemen
2003 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, and Iraq
2004 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2005 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2006 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2007 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen
2008 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2009 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2010 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
2011 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen; Conflict in Libya (Libyan Civil War)
In most of these wars, the U.S. was on the offense. Danios admits that some of the wars were defensive. However, Danios also leaves out covert CIA operations and other acts which could be considered war.
Let’s update what’s happened since 2011:
2012 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen
2013 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen
2014 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen; Civil War in Ukraine
2015 – War on Terror in Somalia, Somalia, Syria and Yemen; Civil War in Ukraine
So we can add 4 more years of war. That means that for 222 out of 239 years – or 93% of the time – America has been at war. (We can quibble with the exact numbers, but the high percentage of time that America has been at war is clear and unmistakable.)

lol for Eddie again who seems to be very angry today lol, as she is been shown up to be a sheep and supporter of smelly lol

This is just America.

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:08 pm

How have I come across as angry and why are you bringing up my perceived mood? I haven't been angry at all didge. Please show me where I've been horrible to you.

A sheep and supporter of smelly?
Okay then didge lets be childish.

This is why I avoid you sometimes

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:09 pm

No I said a list of Muslim countries.

I thought I specifically said that?

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:11 pm

eddie wrote:No I said a list of Muslim countries.

I thought I specifically said that?

That is your task as you made the claims, the onus is on you.
I stated Christian nations, so at present you are not doing to weel are you Eddie lol

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:13 pm

eddie wrote:How have I come across as angry and why are you bringing up my perceived mood? I haven't been angry at all didge. Please show me where I've been horrible to you.

A sheep and supporter of smelly?
Okay then didge lets be childish.

This is why I avoid you sometimes

Caplocks Eddie
You are a sheep to him, claiming his views the other day which were nothing short of being an apologist to aparthied, where good and sensible.
Sorry I really laughed that you thought they were, when his aims is a war and conflict between Muslims and Non-Muslims. He has been spinning the same propaganda for years.
Like I say his poor attempts to justify apartheid were applling, on a par with holocaust denial.

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:14 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:No I said a list of Muslim countries.

I thought I specifically said that?

That is your task as you made the claims, the onus is on you.
I stated Christian nations, so at present you are not doing to weel are you Eddie lol

Not doing to well at what??? Are we in a competition didge?
I asked younp for a list of Muslim countries that aren't at war (and those that are) and you said you could, and you would if i was prepared for you to make me look stupid.

So I said, yes please didge.

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:15 pm

Make a list didge; you're good at research - make a list of countries that are at war and ones that aren't, Muslim wars.

I can make a list Eddie, but do you really want me to, as I think you may look stupid
Let me know

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:20 pm

eddie wrote:Make a list didge; you're good at research - make a list of countries that are at war and ones that aren't, Muslim wars.

I can make a list Eddie, but do you really want me to, as I think you may look stupid
Let me know

What list did I say I would make Eddie?

Did you just disingenuously leave out that vital part?

How many conflicts has Europe and American been involved in the last 100 years?
Do you want me to list them?
I can make a list Eddie, but do you really want me to, as I think you may look stupid
Let me know

Very poor Eddie, very poor indeed.

Onus is on you to show Muslims, after you claimed every country was in conflict and also stating how many years also.

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:21 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

That is your task as you made the claims, the onus is on you.
I stated Christian nations, so at present you are not doing to weel are you Eddie lol

Not doing to well at what??? Are we in a competition didge?
I asked younp for a list of Muslim countries that aren't at war (and those that are) and you said you could, and you would if i was prepared for you to make me look stupid.

So I said, yes please didge.

You made the claim, why should I help you out on something you need to back your claim lol?

Doh

I stated that America and Europe had been in many wars.
So far i have just given you America

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:43 pm

cheers walter

didnt you use that pie chart on your global warming thread??

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:46 pm

lol no Dalek, as that is a pie chart showing conflicts by the US

Doh, though I have to say not bad for you, I did laugh

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:22 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:Make a list didge; you're good at research - make a list of countries that are at war and ones that aren't, Muslim wars.

I can make a list Eddie, but do you really want me to, as I think you may look stupid
Let me know

What list did I say I would make Eddie?

Did you just disingenuously leave out that vital part?

How many conflicts has Europe and American been involved in the last 100 years?
Do you want me to list them?
I can make a list Eddie, but do you really want me to, as I think you may look stupid
Let me know

Very poor Eddie, very poor indeed.

Onus is on you to show Muslims, after you claimed every country was in conflict and also stating how many years also.

didge your part in bold was to the last part of my post - you'd already answered all,the other parts, it's there to see.
We both know that.

Now are you going to make the list of Muslim countries that aren't and are, at war?

If you don't want to, I understand. Though it's not like you to not run to google to prove something.

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:27 pm

Found this - can't seem to c&p from my iPad

http://file.prio.no/Publication_files/prio/Gleditsch,%20Rudolfsen%20-%20Are%20Muslim%20Countries%20More%20War-Prone,%20Conflict%20Trends%203-2015.pdf

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:31 pm

The only peaceful Islamic nations I could find are:

Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Bahrein, Tunisia...

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:32 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

What list did I say I would make Eddie?

Did you just disingenuously leave out that vital part?

How many conflicts has Europe and American been involved in the last 100 years?
Do you want me to list them?
I can make a list Eddie, but do you really want me to, as I think you may look stupid
Let me know

Very poor Eddie, very poor indeed.

Onus is on you to show Muslims, after you claimed every country was in conflict and also stating how many years also.

didge your part in bold was to the last part of my post - you'd already answered all,the other parts, it's there to see.
We both know that.

Now are you going to make the list of Muslim countries that aren't and are, at war?

If you don't want to, I understand. Though it's not like you to not run to google to prove something.

Stop making pathetic excuses.
Its clear that I stated about Europe and America
Now either put up or move along because you are acting like a two year old

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:35 pm

eddie wrote:The only peaceful Islamic nations I could find are:

Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Bahrein, Tunisia...

So your claim to Muslims fighting each other was utterly wrong.

Even from your own list it states:

Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen at war.

Terrorism would then included countless other countries

So you were badly in error on your claim.
Now show over the centuries

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:39 pm

Here is Britain, from the unification.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_Kingdom

How many years of peace Eddie?

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:50 pm

Sigh.

I wanted Muslim countries only
I do keep,saying it

And as seen, there are a lot

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:53 pm

eddie wrote:Sigh.

I wanted Muslim countries only
I do keep,saying it

And as seen, there are a lot

Look I am not sure why you are so emotional today and it seems to have lost your marbles, but you made two claims on Muslim countries all being in conflict thus fighting and over how many years.
That is up to you to back.
My view was on America and Europe with how many wars they have been involved in and now I have presented America and Britain.
Why on earth do you think I need to research your claims, which you cannot back up?

PMSL

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:59 pm

Didge why do you keep,saying I'm emotional?
I haven't done or said anything at all that would come across that way, have I?

Can you please show me where.

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:01 pm

I think posting many Caplocks is being very emotional Eddie

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:20 pm

eddie wrote:Didge why do you keep,saying I'm emotional?
I haven't done or said anything at all that would come across that way, have I?

Can you please show me where.

you really should know by now that walter projects

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:44 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
eddie wrote:Didge why do you keep,saying I'm emotional?
I haven't done or said anything at all that would come across that way, have I?

Can you please show me where.

you really should know by now that walter projects

Yes I know all about projection smelly.
It's very telling.

@ didge, caps to me, is like bold to you.
Are you shouting when you bold things up? I use caps cos it's easier than piss-balling about up the top of the icon things.

Of course, you'll insist differently because you know me better apparently.

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:46 pm

No Caplocks is shouting Eddie, bold is not shouting

I shall leave you to be silly as its clear you are being so.

Now all you can do is talk about anything but your original claims

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:47 pm

What original claims didge?
Do you mean my original QUESTION?

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:48 pm

eddie wrote:What original claims didge?
Do you mean my original QUESTION?

STOP FUCKING SHOUTING YOURE RUINING MY STRICTLY COME X-BALLROOM!!!

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:52 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
eddie wrote:What original claims didge?
Do you mean my original QUESTION?

STOP FUCKING SHOUTING YOURE RUINING MY STRICTLY COME X-BALLROOM!!!

Now exclamation marks; that's shouting!!!!!!

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:53 pm

eddie wrote:What original claims didge?
Do you mean my original QUESTION?

You mean your two original claims, one of which you debunked yourself with by presenting a link lol

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:56 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:What original claims didge?
Do you mean my original QUESTION?

You mean your two original claims, one of which you debunked yourself with by presenting a link lol

What claims? I asked a question and you said you'd prove how stupid I am.

Now I may be stupid, but today, it's not been you who's proven it.

You just keep making it personal by mentioning my mood.

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:02 pm

Well sorry if that bothers you, but I get bored of people making stupid claims, of which you did on this thread.

First poor claim:

And one other thing: if you,look at every Muslim country, there is war.

Second poor claim"

Now though, it struck me: WHEN HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TIME WHEN Muslims WERE NOT FIGHTING EACHOTHER OR OTHERS?l.

First one you ended up proving yourself wrong over, by your own link, and the second one you ask me to make a list based on your own claims, thinking I need to disprove your hearsay.
That is like the daft and absurd view where people are asked to disprove something the person asking cannot prove exists, ie a god.

So please spare me the nonsense Eddie

You make claims, the onus is on you to back them, just like I did in regards to how many conflicts America and the UK have been involved in. My view showed that Christian nations have rarely not been at warm but of this is of no concern to you, hence the irrational point on Muslim nations being at war. You needed to show how this was all the time.

Its not rocket science

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:06 pm

I stated opinions actually didge. Like all of yours about me and everyone else and everything that is your opinion.

Anyway, I asked for a list, you said you'd make one and you didn't.

So let's leave it there as we are going round in circles.

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:07 pm

Tell you what Eddie, here is a link to all wars and conflicts in the 20th century.

Enjoy researching them all

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:20th-century_conflicts

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:11 pm

eddie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

STOP FUCKING SHOUTING YOURE RUINING MY STRICTLY COME X-BALLROOM!!!

Now exclamation marks; that's shouting!!!!!!

SHOUTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RIP europe - Page 4 859118666

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:11 pm

eddie wrote:I stated opinions actually didge. Like all of yours about me and everyone else and everything that is your opinion.

Anyway, I asked for a list, you said you'd make one and you didn't.

So let's leave it there as we are going round in circles.

Your opinions were poor, you said every Muslim country being at war, when it was 6.
You asked me to then show Muslims not being at war, which would have to mean either they are at war because of religion or that its just a Muslims fighting a non-religious war. So what is your point. Is it any nation which has citizens in the majority be it Muslim or Christian involved in conflict, or are you just going off when nations are attacked say like by nutters like Saddam who attacked kuwait which had nothing to do with anything religious? Do you see why your point is poor. You need to define whether its people fighting wars who happened to be either Muslim or Christian or nations fighting because of religious reasons.

Now do you grasp this, because the reality is there has been little peace for the last 3,400 years with only a couple of hundred years of peace.
So your point was unbalanced. Fail to see what cause a conflict was over and was just lumping any conflict involving Muslims to make a poor point

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:11 pm

Didge I can't abide research (unless it's for the buying of shoes Hahahahahaha)

That's why I said that didge is good at research and perhaps he could make a list?
I even said again, yes please, when you asked.

You have taken everything I've said as a challenge or a word war, when I was actually sincere in finding these things out - albeit lazily by asking you.

If you wanted to,look at it in a positive way, I was actually asking you for some research because I wanted to know if my opinion was right about most Muslim countries being at war.

You made it personal. As you always do with me.

And that's the truth.

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:15 pm

Spare me the victim card.
You went off shouting that was not being civil
So I do not buy your excuses.

Sorry, but you have to live with that.
If you are interested then its up to you to actually research yourself, its lazy to ask others to do what you could do yourself, as how will you ever learn unless you read multiple sources to gain a balanced view. All I can do is offer my reasoning and views, when you need to find many more than just me, even if I reasoned my views here well. If you are truly interested then it stands to reason you look and find out yourself. I am not at your beck and call to do your own work

by eddie Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:16 pm

Okey doke. Thanks anyway.

by Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:17 pm

eddie wrote:Didge I can't abide research (unless it's for the buying of shoes Hahahahahaha)

That's why I said that didge is good at research and perhaps he could make a list?
I even said again, yes please, when you asked.

You have taken everything I've said as a challenge or a word war, when I was actually sincere in finding these things out - albeit lazily by asking you.

If you wanted to,look at it in a positive way, I was actually asking you for some research because I wanted to know if my opinion was right about most Muslim countries being at war.

You made it personal. As you always do with me.

And that's the truth.

That's why I said that didge is good at research and perhaps he could make a list?
I even said again, yes please, when you asked.

school boy error

now you will never hear the end of walter threatening to "give you the list" if you want it.

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