4 out of 5 refugees not syrian????

Raggamuffin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

not just any guilt trip

while liberal guilt trip

Yes. This is what makes me sick. These liberals are doing so much damage - they are damaging relationships and potential friendships between people because they are telling white people that black people are victims - ie, that they are weak and that the white person is strong.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:Positive Discrimination:

Should sons and daughters of white slave owners be liable for the sins of their parents?

Cuchulain wrote:Oh in comes smelly with  falling prey to the ISIS propaganda machine.
If we take them at their word, there should be 8,000 ISIS fighters there now in the EU, 4,000 of them since January who have done nothing it seems.
Yet we see a Mosque raided in Germany today for trying to recruit refugees to ISIS to then go and travel to the Middle east.
Odd that, if 8,000 are in the EU which would mean a good proportion would have to then be in Germany

smelly-bandit wrote:they arent refugees

they are an insurgent force and this is an invasion

the percentage of men vs women/child in this swarm is so disproportionate its resembles an army on the move with camp whores and followers    

smelly-bandit wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:Oh in comes smelly with  falling prey to the ISIS propaganda machine.
If we take them at their word, there should be 8,000 ISIS fighters there now in the EU, 4,000 of them since January who have done nothing it seems.
Yet we see a Mosque raided in Germany today for trying to recruit refugees to ISIS to then go and travel to the Middle east.
Odd that, if 8,000 are in the EU which would mean a good proportion would have to then be in Germany

yes and??

there are 800,000 immigrants in germany alone, none of them have been vetted.

8000 is spit in the ocean

8000 is a ratio of 1 ISIS per 100 immigrants  

Raggamuffin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

not just any guilt trip

while liberal guilt trip

Yes. This is what makes me sick. These liberals are doing so much damage - they are damaging relationships and potential friendships between people because they are telling white people that black people are victims - ie, that they are weak and that the white person is strong.

Original Quill wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

yes and??

there are 800,000 immigrants in germany alone, none of them have been vetted.

8000 is spit in the ocean

8000 is a ratio of 1 ISIS per 100 immigrants  

Smelly, it's not real.  Go back inside the pub.  It was just a car backfiring.

smelly-bandit wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:Oh in comes smelly with  falling prey to the ISIS propaganda machine.
If we take them at their word, there should be 8,000 ISIS fighters there now in the EU, 4,000 of them since January who have done nothing it seems.
Yet we see a Mosque raided in Germany today for trying to recruit refugees to ISIS to then go and travel to the Middle east.
Odd that, if 8,000 are in the EU which would mean a good proportion would have to then be in Germany

yes and??

there are 800,000 immigrants in germany alone, none of them have been vetted.

8000 is spit in the ocean

8000 is a ratio of 1 ISIS per 100 immigrants  

smelly-bandit wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes. This is what makes me sick. These liberals are doing so much damage - they are damaging relationships and potential friendships between people because they are telling white people that black people are victims - ie, that they are weak and that the white person is strong.

its the worst kind of racism - telling blacks that they are nothing but victims and will be treated as such forever more because some white liberals feel they owe them something.

i would hate to be black and treated like an invalid because some white arsehole cant get over themselves  

smelly-bandit wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes. This is what makes me sick. These liberals are doing so much damage - they are damaging relationships and potential friendships between people because they are telling white people that black people are victims - ie, that they are weak and that the white person is strong.

its the worst kind of racism - telling blacks that they are nothing but victims and will be treated as such forever more because some white liberals feel they owe them something.

i would hate to be black and treated like an invalid because some white arsehole cant get over themselves  

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:I can see and I understand and I sympathise that black people do seem picked on in some U.S. States
I see that and I'm not denying it.
It needs to stop and its despicable.

But that's not what we are discussing right now; we are discussing Quills abhorrent treatment and disgust of whites.

That is your perception on Quill.
I see him reason based on how society is in the main modeled on a white middle class mentality in the US.
Sympathising about people does not do much about it if you do not stand up and be vocal about it, as it is perceptions that need changing.

Cuchulain wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

yes and??

there are 800,000 immigrants in germany alone, none of them have been vetted.

8000 is spit in the ocean

8000 is a ratio of 1 ISIS per 100 immigrants  

No smelly its just proves you are a blessing to ISIS as you promote their propaganda for them.
Again 4,000 are meant to have come before January and yet we have not seen any incidents from a single one.
I have no doubt some small groups of ISIS have come, but being as many have returned through normal means because they are citizens, it just shows your views are hyped up and pandering to fear created by ISIS. You have one intention  to deny helping refugees, which is your real intent, to play on a fear that has come from ISIS, so that you can be inhumane.

Original Quill wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

its the worst kind of racism - telling blacks that they are nothing but victims and will be treated as such forever more because some white liberals feel they owe them something.

i would hate to be black and treated like an invalid because some white arsehole cant get over themselves  

That sounds suspiciously like a social theory.  Are you a socialist smells??

smelly-bandit wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

No smelly its just proves you are a blessing to ISIS as you promote their propaganda for them.
Again 4,000 are meant to have come before January and yet we have not seen any incidents from a single one.
I have no doubt some small groups of ISIS have come, but being as many have returned through normal means because they are citizens, it just shows your views are hyped up and pandering to fear created by ISIS. You have one intention  to deny helping refugees, which is your real intent, to play on a fear that has come from ISIS, so that you can be inhumane.

patience walter patience

have i not been vindicated in most of my predictions??

did i not say the arab spring would end in disaster??

yes i did, what were you and elizel doing?? jumping around like goons high on naivety

did i not say and have i not been saying that europe is headed for a civil war??

yes indeedy, for many years i have been saying it and now we are seeing it happen, or rather some of us are seeing it happen, others are well.............jumping around like goons high on naivety

you dont plany an acorn today and have an oak tree tomorrow do you??

conflict doesnt happen overnight and this event is nowhere near the phase of conflict, its still in the "seeding" phase and its gaining momentum

for someone who constantly waffles on about how much of a military expert he is you dont seem to understand even the most basic of military doctrine

infiltration walter, this is the current phase, it will take many years for the full impact to be felt  

smelly-bandit wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

No smelly its just proves you are a blessing to ISIS as you promote their propaganda for them.
Again 4,000 are meant to have come before January and yet we have not seen any incidents from a single one.
I have no doubt some small groups of ISIS have come, but being as many have returned through normal means because they are citizens, it just shows your views are hyped up and pandering to fear created by ISIS. You have one intention  to deny helping refugees, which is your real intent, to play on a fear that has come from ISIS, so that you can be inhumane.

patience walter patience

have i not been vindicated in most of my predictions??

did i not say the arab spring would end in disaster??

yes i did, what were you and elizel doing?? jumping around like goons high on naivety

did i not say and have i not been saying that europe is headed for a civil war??

yes indeedy, for many years i have been saying it and now we are seeing it happen, or rather some of us are seeing it happen, others are well.............jumping around like goons high on naivety

you dont plany an acorn today and have an oak tree tomorrow do you??

conflict doesnt happen overnight and this event is nowhere near the phase of conflict, its still in the "seeding" phase and its gaining momentum

for someone who constantly waffles on about how much of a military expert he is you dont seem to understand even the most basic of military doctrine

infiltration walter, this is the current phase, it will take many years for the full impact to be felt  

smelly-bandit wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

That sounds suspiciously like a social theory.  Are you a socialist smells??

not my theory quill

your reality

Raggamuffin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

its the worst kind of racism - telling blacks that they are nothing but victims and will be treated as such forever more because some white liberals feel they owe them something.

i would hate to be black and treated like an invalid because some white arsehole cant get over themselves  

And that's what Quill and his ilk want. He thinks this will improve things and that it's the way forward.

Original Quill wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

patience walter patience

have i not been vindicated in most of my predictions??

did i not say the arab spring would end in disaster??

yes i did, what were you and elizel doing?? jumping around like goons high on naivety

did i not say and have i not been saying that europe is headed for a civil war??

yes indeedy, for many years i have been saying it and now we are seeing it happen, or rather some of us are seeing it happen, others are well.............jumping around like goons high on naivety

you dont plany an acorn today and have an oak tree tomorrow do you??

conflict doesnt happen overnight and this event is nowhere near the phase of conflict, its still in the "seeding" phase and its gaining momentum

for someone who constantly waffles on about how much of a military expert he is you dont seem to understand even the most basic of military doctrine

infiltration walter, this is the current phase, it will take many years for the full impact to be felt  

If you don't have facts, see Nostradamus.

eddie wrote:Smelly I've been sending screenshots to a mate of mine who's black.

She's said she has no idea what they're on and that every race and creed has at least something  to ashamed of.
This white guilt thing is just a case of "pampered self-righteous ego."

Cuchulain wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

patience walter patience

have i not been vindicated in most of my predictions??

did i not say the arab spring would end in disaster??

yes i did, what were you and elizel doing?? jumping around like goons high on naivety

did i not say and have i not been saying that europe is headed for a civil war??

yes indeedy, for many years i have been saying it and now we are seeing it happen, or rather some of us are seeing it happen, others are well.............jumping around like goons high on naivety

you dont plany an acorn today and have an oak tree tomorrow do you??

conflict doesnt happen overnight and this event is nowhere near the phase of conflict, its still in the "seeding" phase and its gaining momentum

for someone who constantly waffles on about how much of a military expert he is you dont seem to understand even the most basic of military doctrine

infiltration walter, this is the current phase, it will take many years for the full impact to be felt  

PMSL


Listen scaredy pants, I wwill forgive the fact you shit a brick and run away from South Arfica, but over here we stand up to terrorism and are not bowed into dong what the enemy wants. That is pander to their fear. It means not disruping ouw own lives because you have bought into a claim which is in reality unrealistic. Being the fact they are on the defensive in many areas trying to entice many people to them. So for them to lose 4,000 fighters, let alone 8,000 is just plain ridiculous. All they need to do was rely on scaredy cats like you to fall prey to their claims and then pander to this fear. It has worked so well nations have shut their borders, where again ISIS do not want refugees heading towards Europe. So you play again into their hands.
There is no doubt some small groups have slipped through, but then we know ISIS fighters have returned back to the UK also and you have little stopping this from happenning. This means you are using the excuse to argue not to help humans.
That means your reasons are poor and based off an ulterior motive you have.

smelly-bandit wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

And that's what Quill and his ilk want. He thinks this will improve things and that it's the way forward.

thats the thing, folks like quill are addicted to their guilt

quill and the LLA dont want to improve the lot of the black man, what else would they use to fuel their addiction to white guilt??

no, this so called compassion, this urge to "right past wrongs" is nothing but a self serving charade, the black man is nothing but constant supply of guilt laden crack for the discerning white liberal  

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:Smelly I've been sending screenshots to a mate of mine who's black.

She's said she has no idea what they're on and that every race and creed has at least something  to ashamed of.
This white guilt thing is just a case of "pampered self-righteous ego."

One opinion, wow

Again the US has paid over 1 billion in compensation to the native Indians?
Do you think its guilt or more to the point people today living today, are only doing so from past wrongs done to the native indians?
Where every single treaty the US made with them, they broke.
The past shaped very much today how we are born into something none of us created.
That is what you fail to grasp.

Now really have to go so night Eddie

Raggamuffin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

And that's what Quill and his ilk want. He thinks this will improve things and that it's the way forward.

thats the thing, folks like quill are addicted to their guilt

quill and the LLA dont want to improve the lot of the black man, what else would they use to fuel their addiction to white guilt??

no, this so called compassion, this urge to "right past wrongs" is nothing but a self serving charade, the black man is nothing but constant supply of guilt laden crack for the discerning white liberal  

Yes, it's pure self-indulgence, but it's also damaging to others, so it's not harmless self-indulgence.

eddie wrote:Smelly I've been sending screenshots to a mate of mine who's black.

She's said she has no idea what they're on and that every race and creed has at least something  to ashamed of.
This white guilt thing is just a case of "pampered self-righteous ego."

smelly-bandit wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:



PMSL


Listen scaredy pants, I wwill forgive the fact you shit a brick and run away from South Arfica, but over here we stand up to terrorism and are not bowed into dong what the enemy wants. That is pander to their fear. It means not disruping ouw own lives because you have bought into a claim which is in reality unrealistic. Being the fact they are on the defensive in many areas trying to entice many people to them. So for them to lose 4,000 fighters, let alone 8,000 is just plain ridiculous. All they need to do was rely on scaredy cats like you to fall prey to their claims and then pander to this fear. It has worked so well nations have shut their borders, where again ISIS do not want refugees heading towards Europe. So you play again into their hands.
There is no doubt some small groups have slipped through, but then we know ISIS fighters have returned back to the UK also and you have little stopping this from happenning. This means you are using the excuse to argue not to help humans.
That means your reasons are poor and based off an ulterior motive you have.

but walter, the security services had the killer of lee rigby on their radar and their couldnt even stop him, he was one man known to the security services and he beheaded a british soldier not 200m's from his own camp in broad daylight in london

france couldnt stop a few lunatics from shooting the shit out of paris,executing several people including a policeman in broad daylight -all known entities  

could norway stop breivik?? you tell me

youre talking 800,000+++++++++ unkowns

how do they know the fighters from the refugees???

no one has bothered to ask any of them.

there have been no proceesing centers

no vetting procedure in place.

they arent on anyones radar.

tell me how the authorities can "lose" something they have never had in the first place?

smelly-bandit wrote:

eddie wrote:Smelly I've been sending screenshots to a mate of mine who's black.

She's said she has no idea what they're on and that every race and creed has at least something  to ashamed of.
This white guilt thing is just a case of "pampered self-righteous ego."

tell me

is your black friend a vitcim of slavery??

does she need the white man to lean on??

i imagine the answer is no, and good for her

but people like quill and walter are closet racists. they need to keep the black man down, portray them as victims to keep them shackled in social,mental and historical slavery, convincing them that they are invalids who need constant care - providing by??? the white man

how convenient

a most insidious and elegant form of racism

eddie wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

One opinion, wow

Again the US has paid over 1 billion in compensation to the native Indians?
Do you think its guilt or more to the point people today living today, are only doing so from past wrongs done to the native indians?
Where every single treaty the US made with them, they broke.
The past shaped very much today how we are born into something none of us created.
That is what you fail to grasp.

Now really have to go so night Eddie

I reiterate again:

This is about quill being racist against whites

Cuchulain wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

but walter, the security services had the killer of lee rigby on their radar and their couldnt even stop him, he was one man known to the security services and he beheaded a british soldier not 200m's from his own camp in broad daylight in london

france couldnt stop a few lunatics from shooting the shit out of paris,executing several people including a policeman in broad daylight -all known entities  

could norway stop breivik?? you tell me

youre talking 800,000+++++++++ unkowns

how do they know the fighters from the refugees???

no one has bothered to ask any of them.

there have been no proceesing centers

no vetting procedure in place.

they arent on anyones radar.

tell me how the authorities can "lose" something they have never had in the first place?

But smelly the IRA have been vastly more successful attacks than any islamic extremist group here.
We cannot stop every attack, yet the intelligence service has thwarted many. You seem to think that stopping refugees will stop any attacks. It will not as its far more probable of someone homegrown of which of those attempted have been mainly home grown. Now you are not suggesting closing our borders, as that would mean crippling our economy, as nobody then gets in or out. So we have to still alllow tourism, migration etc, so that still have means to enter and even better ones if they are citizens. So your reasoning iis utterly flawed. You just want to deny people coming here, because you are against immigration and are playing off the fear that ISIS has made. Whilst ignoring such an attack is more probable to happen by a hown grown terrorist
We are talking about many people known to be fleeing violence.
You are going off claims made by ISIS themselves, so what is your fear of 800,000 migrants and refugees in Germany?
Its based on you looking for an reason of fear to deny people.
They need to be processed of which many are being as we know the number of asylum claims by each country.

Now you are just regurgitating the same drivel and I have things to do, so night

eddie wrote:Saying someone is black and that he has a chip on his shoulder becaeue he's coming across as racist against whites, isn't racist

eddie wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

tell me

is your black friend a vitcim of slavery??

does she need the white man to lean on??

i imagine the answer is no, and good for her

but people like quill and walter are closet racists. they need to keep the black man down, portray them as victims to keep them shackled in social,mental and historical slavery, convincing them that they are invalids who need constant care - providing by??? the white man

how convenient

a most insidious and elegant form of racism

She isn't a victim of slavery, no like most people she does acknowledge it happened and her attitude it "Accept it, learn from it, move past it, stop whinging"

She does lean on a white man hahahah she's married to one


(Do you think Quill will class her as a "proper black"?? Lol)


She thinks they've done a 360 turn and become so not racisit that they actually are!

eddie wrote:Exactly that smelly and have a green

eddie wrote:Anyone can have a chip on their shoulder!
How racist of you to think only blacks can think that way!!!!

Very racist Didge!

Bye again

eddie wrote:No Didge you're wrong.
I made no racist comment. All you ever do is waffle on about a lot of nothing then say you're going.

Burrrrrger.

eddie wrote:No one is disputing how blacks are treated in certain parts of the U.S.

But quill, quite actively, derides and mocks while people??!!

Can you not see that, that behaviour towards white people (and most of us aren't racist on here) is just as bad as the way the KKK look down upon blacks???

Quill is a racist. I don't ever use that word lightly either.
Quite frankly, he's more racist than Tommy comes across because as least Tommy owns it.
Closet racists are the worst.

And yep, I think quill is a black man with a big fucking chip on his shoulders.

1. They believe that whites are naturally better than blacks – more intelligent, more moral, more trustworthy, more beautiful, more hard-working and so on. Like if they think whites are Basically Good while blacks are not. You know these people are racist because this is pretty much a restatement of the definition.
   
   
2. They believe stereotypes about blacks. The bad stereotypes, at least, fit the definition of racism.
   
   
3. They use the n-word, racist slurs or tell racist jokes – meaning they feel the need to disrespect blacks. Why is that? If they do it against Asians or Latinos, then most likely they are racist against blacks too.
   
   
4. They play down slavery like it is no big deal. Because to them the suffering of black people is no big deal. Because blacks do not count as, like, Real People. Unlike, say, the Jews whose Holocaust we must never forget (and rightly so). Key expressions:
   
   
   
   
   • Get over it!
     
     
   • It was the times!
     
     
   • Africans sold their own people as slaves!
     
     
   • Arab traders sold slaves too!
     
     
   • Slavery is universal!
     
     
   • My family never owned slaves!
     
     

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm sure that Didge has said previously that there's no such thing as race, and therefore no such thing as racism.

That's when it suited him of course.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Silly analogy.

And you may not like or agree with his opinion but it does count.

Sweeping his opinions under the carpet doesn't get rid of them. In fact, it's quite cowardly to even do so.

Thank you Zack... I don't know exactly what opinions I have ever given that are so bad!?


Three quarters of the British people want immigration greatly reduced, as I do.


Does that make me a racist!?


Or is it just that the lefties have thrown this accusation about so much in recent years at anyone who has this view...?



To me, it is the lefties who are the racists and hypocrites... they constantly shout about How it's wrong to be racist and about equality and fairness etc... but then give special treatment to certain people BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE/ETHNICITY/SEXUALITY ETC!!!


For example, in schools, girls and other ethnic minorities have been given so many leg ups and special attention over recent years that they are now well ahead and it is the white boys who are being left behind!!!


All in the name of equality mind!!!



Why are those so vocal about fairness and equality so hell bent on not actually treating people the same!?

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm sure that Didge has said previously that there's no such thing as race, and therefore no such thing as racism.

That's when it suited him of course.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Silly analogy.

And you may not like or agree with his opinion but it does count.

Sweeping his opinions under the carpet doesn't get rid of them. In fact, it's quite cowardly to even do so.

Thank you Zack... I don't know exactly what opinions I have ever given that are so bad!?


Three quarters of the British people want immigration greatly reduced, as I do.


Does that make me a racist!?


Or is it just that the lefties have thrown this accusation about so much in recent years at anyone who has this view...?



To me, it is the lefties who are the racists and hypocrites... they constantly shout about How it's wrong to be racist and about equality and fairness etc... but then give special treatment to certain people BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE/ETHNICITY/SEXUALITY ETC!!!


For example, in schools, girls and other ethnic minorities have been given so many leg ups and special attention over recent years that they are now well ahead and it is the white boys who are being left behind!!!


All in the name of equality mind!!!



Why are those so vocal about fairness and equality so hell bent on not actually treating people the same!?

I was going to bring this example up myself.

This is also an example how lefties (as you put it) use racial divisions for their own ends. The Labour Party for example.

It is shameful that nobody thought about how positive discrimination would impact on white children in low income areas. As I said, this is an example of children paying for sins of their parents. Or worse, someone else's parents of the same skin colour. Isn't that racist too? It's certainly no equality.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm sure that Didge has said previously that there's no such thing as race, and therefore no such thing as racism.

That's when it suited him of course.

That's why I don't allow myself to be drawn in too deeply by anything he or quill, claim.
They contradict themselves time and again; that's what happens when you will go to any lengths to be right.

They change with the wind.

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm sure that Didge has said previously that there's no such thing as race, and therefore no such thing as racism.

That's when it suited him of course.

Biologically no there is no such thing as races, but we have invented them to define people.
Racism exists in the mind of a racist.