4 out of 5 refugees not syrian????

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Four out of five migrants are NOT from Syria: EU figures expose the 'lie' that the majority of refugees are fleeing war zone
Some 44,000 of the 213,000 refugees who arrived in Europe were from Syria
A further 27,000 new arrivals on the continent came from Afghanistan
Britain received one in 30 of all the asylum claims made by new applicants
David Cameron has offered to take in 20,000 refugees but none from the EU


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it seems we have some taking advantage of what is going on....

eddie wrote:What? I am telling you that Quill is racist against white people.

You want me to back up my claims?
Read the whole debate here, and anywhere else where he's been wringing his hands over "white evil"

I have shown him, with two links previously, and my own experiences, that black people can be racists too.
He disagrees of course.

He calls me racist because I  don't agree with him yet Zack isn't racist (even though he disagrees with him plenty) because Zack isn't white??!

You couldn't make this shit up.

He calls me racist too, but he's never backed that up.

Raggamuffin wrote:So how is this white guilt trip in the US supposed to work then? Quill claims that white people owe black people something for some bizarre reason, so what do they owe them? Money?

Right did you read his point on slavery and the money made from this and banks?
I have made the point countless times where people are born into prividge in this country due to nothing they did but off the proceeds and money made from slavery and plunder. This kicked off the industrial revolution to the point this advanced the nation where it led to building a large navy and then controlling large quantities of the world, of which people still live off this fantasy of a British Empire. Why do they do so? Much of it stems around a nationalist view that stems from a view of whites superiority. Now that is talking about Britain, where Quill has applied reasons to the US, which I would also add how the Civil war as a major aspect. Though you are certainly not even trying to understand his points.
I suggest you go back and digest them. I do not agree with them all and before have given my reasons, where the Irish received racism from other whites.

eddie wrote:What? I am telling you that Quill is racist against white people.

You want me to back up my claims?
Read the whole debate here, and anywhere else where he's been wringing his hands over "white evil"

I have shown him, with two links previously, and my own experiences, that black people can be racists too.
He disagrees of course.

He calls me racist because I  don't agree with him yet Zack isn't racist (even though he disagrees with him plenty) because Zack isn't white??!

You couldn't make this shit up.

1) Then back this up with reason, does he view whites as inferior?

2) That is not reason, you are trying to get out of apllying reason yourself

3) Absurd reasoning as Zack may feel very different to how Quill feels. You have to show you are not racist, or why he is racist. Though your view he must be black with a chip on his shoulder was formed from racist thinking on your part

eddie wrote:No one is disputing how blacks are treated in certain parts of the U.S.

But quill, quite actively, derides and mocks while people??!!

Can you not see that, that behaviour towards white people (and most of us aren't racist on here) is just as bad as the way the KKK look down upon blacks???

Quill is a racist. I don't ever use that word lightly either.
Quite frankly, he's more racist than Tommy comes across because as least Tommy owns it.
Closet racists are the worst.

And yep, I think quill is a black man with a big fucking chip on his shoulders.

I'm not a racist... I am just honest!!!

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:So how is this white guilt trip in the US supposed to work then? Quill claims that white people owe black people something for some bizarre reason, so what do they owe them? Money?

Right did you read his point on slavery and the money made from this and banks?
I have made the point countless times where people are born into prividge in this country due to nothing they did but off the proceeds and money made from slavery and plunder. This kicked off the industrial revolution to the point this advanced the nation where it led to building a large navy and then controlling large quantities of the world, of which people still live off this fantasy of a British Empire. Why do they do so? Much of it stems around a nationalist view that stems from a view of whites superiority. Now that is talking about Britain, where Quill has applied reasons to the US, which I would also add how the Civil war as a major aspect. Though you are certainly not even trying to understand his points.
I suggest you go back and digest them. I do not agree with them all and before have given my reasons, where the Irish received racism from other whites.

So tell me how it should work in practice then.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Right did you read his point on slavery and the money made from this and banks?
I have made the point countless times where people are born into prividge in this country due to nothing they did but off the proceeds and money made from slavery and plunder. This kicked off the industrial revolution to the point this advanced the nation where it led to building a large navy and then controlling large quantities of the world, of which people still live off this fantasy of a British Empire. Why do they do so? Much of it stems around a nationalist view that stems from a view of whites superiority. Now that is talking about Britain, where Quill has applied reasons to the US, which I would also add how the Civil war as a major aspect. Though you are certainly not even trying to understand his points.
I suggest you go back and digest them. I do not agree with them all and before have given my reasons, where the Irish received racism from other whites.

So tell me how it should work in practice then.

Equality to all on the same level playing field, that all have equality under the law.

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

So tell me how it should work in practice then.

Equality to all on the same level playing field, that all have equality under the law.

So how do they not?

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Because I'm white? You want to steal from me under some kind of fraudulent claim that I'm responsible for some wrongdoing - purely because of the colour of my skin. That makes you the thief, and a racist one.

You are the first to complain when a black person is accused of wrongdoing, and yet you sit here falsely accusing white people.

But you are the cause.  Not only that, you're not even a good citizen.  You're just a cheat on your obligations.

So what are my obligations?

Raggamuffin wrote:Let's see how the white guilt trip works in everyday life then.

Let's say an average white shop assistant sees a black person approaching their counter. What do they think? Do the y think - oooh, here's a black person. I wonder if they think that my ancestor was a slave owner and blame me for that. Perhaps I'd better be extra nice to them just in case, or maybe I should knock a few dollars off for them - you know, as compensation for what someone might have done to one of their ancestors.

Is that how it goes?

Hahahahahaha if Quill were selling milk and eggs then yes.

Here's a thought. What happens in an ordinary day of a white non-racist?
They get up, brush their teeth, take a piss, eat toast and drink tea, have a shower, leave the house and walk to the station.
All of this whilst NOT thinking about a black person.

They encounter a black man they know, at the train station "morning" they say "morning" the black man says In reply
And the white nan does NOT think about the man being black and the black man does not think about the white man's ancestors.

Imagine if life were like that?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Equality to all on the same level playing field, that all have equality under the law.

So how do they not?

Because there are people who do not treat others equally under the law and ignore the law.
So more than anything we have to teach why such views and prejudices are wrong and to champion standing against such prejudice.
It takes time to change perceptions, but they do change through time, like in a hundred years, where women have gone from near enough door mats to enjoying some equality with men, but still not enough yet. Many women are not treated equally within the work place be it from advancement to wages.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Let's see how the white guilt trip works in everyday life then.

Let's say an average white shop assistant sees a black person approaching their counter. What do they think? Do the y think - oooh, here's a black person. I wonder if they think that my ancestor was a slave owner and blame me for that. Perhaps I'd better be extra nice to them just in case, or maybe I should knock a few dollars off for them - you know, as compensation for what someone might have done to one of their ancestors.

Is that how it goes?

Hahahahahaha if Quill were selling milk and eggs then yes.

Here's a thought. What happens in an ordinary day of a white non-racist?
They get up, brush their teeth, take a piss, eat toast and drink tea, have a shower, leave the house and walk to the station.
All of this whilst NOT thinking about a black person.

They encounter a black man they know, at the train station "morning" they say "morning" the black man says In reply
And the white nan does NOT think about the man being black and the black man does not think about the white man's ancestors.

Imagine if life were like that?

I think it is like that for most people. It's not like that in Quill's world of course. He would say "morning, I'd like to apologise for the sins of my ancestors. Please accept this money in compensation", and give the guy a fiver.

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

So how do they not?

Because there are people who do not treat others equally under the law and ignore the law.
So more than anything we have to teach why such views and prejudices are wrong and to champion standing against such prejudice.
It takes time to change perceptions, but they do change through time, like in a hundred years, where women have gone from near enough door mats to enjoying some equality with men, but still not enough yet. Many women are not treated equally within the work place be it from advancement to wages.

Please give some examples of how black people do not have the same rights under the law as white people.

A fiver would be patronising to the black man.
Quill would give him his house.

After all, his children don't deserve it.

eddie wrote:A fiver would be patronising to the black man.
Quill would give him his house.

After all, his children don't deserve it.

Or maybe that castle he has in Scotland.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Let's see how the white guilt trip works in everyday life then.

Let's say an average white shop assistant sees a black person approaching their counter. What do they think? Do the y think - oooh, here's a black person. I wonder if they think that my ancestor was a slave owner and blame me for that. Perhaps I'd better be extra nice to them just in case, or maybe I should knock a few dollars off for them - you know, as compensation for what someone might have done to one of their ancestors.

Is that how it goes?

Hahahahahaha if Quill were selling milk and eggs then yes.

Here's a thought. What happens in an ordinary day of a white non-racist?
They get up, brush their teeth, take a piss, eat toast and drink tea, have a shower, leave the house and walk to the station.
All of this whilst NOT thinking about a black person.

They encounter a black man they know, at the train station "morning" they say "morning" the black man says In reply
And the white nan does NOT think about the man being black and the black man does not think about the white man's ancestors.

Imagine if life were like that?

and we are back to two year old immaturity slapping each other on the back not debating.
What you fail to grasd is how you have no comprehensionEddie of what it feels like living as a black person when you are often stereotyped by people on many things. Be it lazy, criminal, stupid etc. Where I showed the Irish were once treated like this in the US.
You need to first walk in their shoes to understand and why the Blue eye, Brown eye experiment really hits home for people to begintop understand a view into this wrold of prejudice based on skin colour.
The US is far removed from the Uk in how this nation has gotten better, but it still has a long road ahead

There's a black guy who I know - an acquaintance really. Am I supposed to think about how he's a "victim" every time I see him because he's black?

That's what Quill wants. The thought of that makes me sick because it's so patronising. That's what Quill wants though - he wants white people to patronise black people and treat them as victims. How the fuck is that supposed to solve anything? It's going to make things much worse.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Because there are people who do not treat others equally under the law and ignore the law.
So more than anything we have to teach why such views and prejudices are wrong and to champion standing against such prejudice.
It takes time to change perceptions, but they do change through time, like in a hundred years, where women have gone from near enough door mats to enjoying some equality with men, but still not enough yet. Many women are not treated equally within the work place be it from advancement to wages.

Please give some examples of how black people do not have the same rights under the law as white people.

Not given a job because of their skin colour, by a prejudice person interviewing them.
A peron stopped just because they are black by the Police.
A black person sentenced to a longer sentence even though for a white person committing the exact same crime receives less.
Denied entry to a good school because they are black.

Raggamuffin wrote:So how is this white guilt trip in the US supposed to work then? Quill claims that white people owe black people something for some bizarre reason, so what do they owe them? Money?

That's a good question. Some of it is repaid if the overall community just stops the racial bias. If police, stop stopping and killing black males. If funding for food and health care matters--not to mention education--is made available. I think those are programs that you and others keep shouting down as too expensive...but you never have any other answers. It's fine if you just leave the debt you owe festering, in a big, hot pile...

Neither you nor I are experts on the remedial aspects of it all. It's sufficient if I keep (as you say) repeating the arguments so that enough people get it. Then let the experts take over.

But I need to keep at it...because the cops keep murdering black men, and that's not good. No jobs, no food, no healthcare, no education. All things we could easily afford if we stopped spending money on toys for the big generals and admirals in the Pentagon.

You see where this is going.

I can see and I understand and I sympathise that black people do seem picked on in some U.S. States
I see that and I'm not denying it.
It needs to stop and its despicable.

But that's not what we are discussing right now; we are discussing Quills abhorrent treatment and disgust of whites.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Well, but tommy you are a racist.  Racist opinions don't count.

That would be like letting a convicted convict vote.

Silly analogy.

And you may not like or agree with his opinion but it does count.

Sweeping his opinions under the carpet doesn't get rid of them. In fact, it's quite cowardly to even do so.

Thank you Zack... I don't know exactly what opinions I have ever given that are so bad!?


Three quarters of the British people want immigration greatly reduced, as I do.


Does that make me a racist!?


Or is it just that the lefties have thrown this accusation about so much in recent years at anyone who has this view...?



To me, it is the lefties who are the racists and hypocrites... they constantly shout about How it's wrong to be racist and about equality and fairness etc... but then give special treatment to certain people BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE/ETHNICITY/SEXUALITY ETC!!!


For example, in schools, girls and other ethnic minorities have been given so many leg ups and special attention over recent years that they are now well ahead and it is the white boys who are being left behind!!!


All in the name of equality mind!!!



Why are those so vocal about fairness and equality so hell bent on not actually treating people the same!?

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Please give some examples of how black people do not have the same rights under the law as white people.

Not given a job because of their skin colour, by a prejudice person interviewing them.
A peron stopped just because they are black by the Police.
A black person sentenced to a longer sentence even though for a white person committing the exact same crime receives less.
Denied entry to a good school because they are black.

That's against the law. I asked how they do not have the same rights under the law. After all, it was you who said we should all have equal rights under the law.

eddie wrote:I can see and I understand and I sympathise that black people do seem picked on in some U.S. States
I see that and I'm not denying it.
It needs to stop and its despicable.

But that's not what we are discussing right now; we are discussing Quills abhorrent treatment and disgust of whites.

That is your perception on Quill.
I see him reason based on how society is in the main modeled on a white middle class mentality in the US.
Sympathising about people does not do much about it if you do not stand up and be vocal about it, as it is perceptions that need changing.

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:So how is this white guilt trip in the US supposed to work then? Quill claims that white people owe black people something for some bizarre reason, so what do they owe them? Money?

That's a good question.  Some of it is repaid if the overall community just stops the racial bias.  If police, stop stopping and killing black males.  If funding for food and health care matters--not to mention education--is made available.  I think those are programs that you and others keep shouting down as too expensive...but you never have any other answers.  It's fine if you just leave the debt you owe festering, in a big, hot pile...

Neither you nor I are experts on the remedial aspects of it all.  It's sufficient if I keep (as you say) repeating the arguments so that enough people get it.  Then let the experts take over.

But I need to keep at it...because the cops keep murdering black men, and that's not good.  No jobs, no food, no healthcare, no education.  All things we could easily afford if we stopped spending money on toys for the big generals and admirals in the Pentagon.

You see where this is going.

Well this is better - some practical example instead of waffle.

However, the police kill white people too, so if they stop killing black people only, they're discriminating against white people.

Are you saying the funding for food and healthcare is available for white people and not for black people? Here in the UK black people have the same opportunities for education, health care, benefits, etc. Are you saying they do not in the US?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Not given a job because of their skin colour, by a prejudice person interviewing them.
A peron stopped just because they are black by the Police.
A black person sentenced to a longer sentence even though for a white person committing the exact same crime receives less.
Denied entry to a good school because they are black.

That's against the law. I asked how they do not have the same rights under the law. After all, it was you who said we should all have equal rights under the law.

But that is what happens in society, there are laws for equality and they are not applied equally, which I explained previously.
So yes we should have all equal rights under law, but it does not happen in practice does it? Even worse with those charged to apply the law fail to do so equally
So people are not getting the same rights under the law, because those rights are not being applied.
Not hard to grasp.

eddie wrote:I can see and I understand and I sympathise that black people do seem picked on in some U.S. States
I see that and I'm not denying it.
It needs to stop and its despicable.

But that's not what we are discussing right now; we are discussing Quills abhorrent treatment and disgust of whites.

Not to mention his claim that white people are personally responsible for compensating black people for being "victims".

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That's against the law. I asked how they do not have the same rights under the law. After all, it was you who said we should all have equal rights under the law.

But that is what happens in society, there are laws for equality and they are not applied equally, which I explained previously.
So yes we should have all equal rights under law, but it does not happen in practice does it? Even worse with those charged to apply the law fail to do so equally
So people are not getting the same rights under the law, because those rights are not being applied.
Not hard to grasp.

Please give some examples.

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:I can see and I understand and I sympathise that black people do seem picked on in some U.S. States
I see that and I'm not denying it.
It needs to stop and its despicable.

But that's not what we are discussing right now; we are discussing Quills abhorrent treatment and disgust of whites.

Not to mention his claim that white people are personally responsible for compensating black people for being "victims".

Did you know the American people have compensated the Native Indians in the US with money?
Why do you think this was done?

Also, Quill seems to think that black people should have more rights than white people - in order to compensate them for black people less rights years ago. That's not equality.

I'd like to know what rights he thinks they should have in addition to those that everyone has.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

But that is what happens in society, there are laws for equality and they are not applied equally, which I explained previously.
So yes we should have all equal rights under law, but it does not happen in practice does it? Even worse with those charged to apply the law fail to do so equally
So people are not getting the same rights under the law, because those rights are not being applied.
Not hard to grasp.

Please give some examples.

Already did.

Raggamuffin wrote:There's a black guy who I know - an acquaintance really. Am I supposed to think about how he's a "victim" every time I see him because he's black?

That's what Quill wants. The thought of that makes me sick because it's so patronising. That's what Quill wants though - he wants white people to patronise black people and treat them as victims. How the fuck is that supposed to solve anything? It's going to make things much worse.

You keep talking--albeit in mocking tones--about what Quill wants to see.  That's fine.  Do you recognize that I've gotten you this far along??  As Mahatma Gandhi said:

First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.

Do you realize, you have all understood the structure of the argument.  When you first encountered me, you were all confused and WTF...  

Now perhaps you are at the laughing to fighting stage.  Keep going.

Raggamuffin wrote:Also, Quill seems to think that black people should have more rights than white people - in order to compensate them for black people less rights years ago. That's not equality.

I'd like to know what rights he thinks they should have in addition to those that everyone has.

Did you know the American people have compensated the Native Indians in the US with money?
Why do you think this was done?

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Not to mention his claim that white people are personally responsible for compensating black people for being "victims".

Did you know the American people have compensated the Native Indians  in the US with money?
Why do you think this was done?

Guilt trip. Not unlike the guilt trip which has led to the support of Israel.

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:There's a black guy who I know - an acquaintance really. Am I supposed to think about how he's a "victim" every time I see him because he's black?

That's what Quill wants. The thought of that makes me sick because it's so patronising. That's what Quill wants though - he wants white people to patronise black people and treat them as victims. How the fuck is that supposed to solve anything? It's going to make things much worse.

You keep talking--albeit in mocking tones--about what Quill wants to see.  That's fine.  Do you recognize that I've gotten you this far along??  As Mahatma Gandhi said:

First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.

Do you realize, you have all understood the structure of the argument.  When you first encountered me, you were all confused and WTF...  

Now perhaps you are at the laughing to fighting stage.  Keep going.

Well do you think I should think of this guy as a victim or not? Stop the waffle and address real issues.

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Please give some examples.

Already did.

Real ones - actual cases.

they arent refugees

they are an insurgent force and this is an invasion

the percentage of men vs women/child in this swarm is so disproportionate its resembles an army on the move with camp whores and followers

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Did you know the American people have compensated the Native Indians  in the US with money?
Why do you think this was done?

Guilt trip. Not unlike the guilt trip which has led to the support of Israel.

Excuses and side-trip. You and Eds. But you are getting it, aren't you?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Did you know the American people have compensated the Native Indians  in the US with money?
Why do you think this was done?

Guilt trip. Not unlike the guilt trip which has led to the support of Israel.

Guilt trip?
Wow, that shows you know nothing of US history.
So if its done rightly to compensate families, even my friend in the UK received money from this being that she is a Navajo, why then it is wrong to compensate many black families?

smelly-bandit wrote:they arent refugees

they are an insurgent force and this is an invasion

the percentage of men vs women/child in this swarm is so disproportionate its resembles an army on the move with camp whores and followers    

I've not seen any facts on that smells. Do you have any?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Did you know the American people have compensated the Native Indians  in the US with money?
Why do you think this was done?

Guilt trip. Not unlike the guilt trip which has led to the support of Israel.

not just any guilt trip

while liberal guilt trip

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Guilt trip. Not unlike the guilt trip which has led to the support of Israel.

Guilt trip?
Wow, that shows you know nothing of US history.
So if its done rightly to compensate families, even my friend in the UK received money from this being that she is a Navajo, why then it is wrong to compensate many black families?

I don't think it is done rightly though.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Already did.

Real ones - actual cases.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/courts-are-biased-against-blacks-with-white-offenders-less-likely-to-be-jailed-for-similar-crimes-8959804.html


Like I said I already gave you an example

Original Quill wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:they arent refugees

they are an insurgent force and this is an invasion

the percentage of men vs women/child in this swarm is so disproportionate its resembles an army on the move with camp whores and followers    

I've not seen any facts on that smells.  Do you have any?

you dont see any facts??

shocker

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Guilt trip?
Wow, that shows you know nothing of US history.
So if its done rightly to compensate families, even my friend in the UK received money from this being that she is a Navajo, why then it is wrong to compensate many black families?

I don't think it is done rightly though.

That is because you fail to understand what it means to be advantaged and privilidged, even though you are.

smelly-bandit wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Guilt trip. Not unlike the guilt trip which has led to the support of Israel.

not just any guilt trip

while liberal guilt trip

Yes. This is what makes me sick. These liberals are doing so much damage - they are damaging relationships and potential friendships between people because they are telling white people that black people are victims - ie, that they are weak and that the white person is strong.

smelly-bandit wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I've not seen any facts on that smells.  Do you have any?

you dont see any facts??

shocker

Don't know how to take that. Lol. Not a shocker that you have no evidence.

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Real ones - actual cases.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/courts-are-biased-against-blacks-with-white-offenders-less-likely-to-be-jailed-for-similar-crimes-8959804.html


Like I said I already gave you an example

Girl gang who kicked woman in the head while yelling 'kill the white slag' freed after judge hears 'they weren't used to drinking because they're Muslims'

A gang of Muslim women who attacked a passer-by in a city centre walked free from court after a judge heard they were ‘not used to being drunk’ because of their religion.

The group – three sisters and a cousin – allegedly screamed ‘kill the white slag’ as they set upon Rhea Page as she waited for a taxi with her boyfriend.

Miss Page, 22, was left with a bald patch where her hair was pulled out in the attack and was left ‘black and blue’ after suffering a flurry of kicks to the head, back, arms and legs while motionless on the pavemen

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

examples you say??

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't think it is done rightly though.

That is because you fail to understand what it means to be advantaged and privilidged, even though you are.

Shall I say that to the black chap I know? Shall I tell him that I'm advantaged and privileged, and that he's not? People like you make me puke. You want to wreck friendships between people who happen to have a different colour skin to each other. You are the ones doing the damage - you and Quill.

Oh in comes smelly with falling prey to the ISIS propaganda machine.
If we take them at their word, there should be 8,000 ISIS fighters there now in the EU, 4,000 of them since January who have done nothing it seems.
Yet we see a Mosque raided in Germany today for trying to recruit refugees to ISIS to then go and travel to the Middle east.
Odd that, if 8,000 are in the EU which would mean a good proportion would have to then be in Germany

Original Quill wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

you dont see any facts??

shocker

Don't know how to take that.  Lol.  Not a shocker that you have no evidence.

you mean apart from the months of media footage showing hordes of angry men of fighting age smashing their way through security cordons and followed by a scattering of famliies??

like i said - an army on the move with a scattering of camp whores and followers

Raggamuffin wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


That is because you fail to understand what it means to be advantaged and privilidged, even though you are.

Shall I say that to the black chap I know? Shall I tell him that I'm advantaged and privileged, and that he's not? People like you make me puke. You want to wreck friendships between people who happen to have a different colour skin to each other. You are the ones doing the damage - you and Quill.

You can tell them what you like, that is your choice
See you are back to being a 2 year old again.
No reason just bitter angry resentment at me pointing out just how very wrong you are.