Coronavirus updates (gelico's original thread)

[gelico]

First topic message reminder :

seems to be spreading rapidly

tests show it started in a animal market

[JulesV]

Nature has no intention, nor even consciousness.  It's merely a pattern.

How does overpopulation fit into a pattern of resources?  Covid-19 is just a virus doing what viruses do.  It has no anthropomorphic tendencies, nor any awareness of when resources are short, nor how over-populated animals over-consume.

+1    Good answer, you're a deep thinker!
These viruses don't do anything in a planned or predesigned way. They're just bugs being bugs.
They were here long before mankind appeared, and will be here long after we've gone.
 
Nature just goes about her normal business too. Generally in a cyclical pattern, but with plenty of randomness thrown in too. Sometimes we have a lucky escape when these seismic events (pandemics, earthquakes etc) occur, sometimes not. That's just how it is! Either way, the planet keeps turning, regardless.

[Tommy Monk]

Jeremy Warner from the Telegrapgh is rather cheerful about the virus, claiming the cull on the elderly will boost the economy.

Hope he gets it. Chinless wonder.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/13/dont-surprised-virus-delays-brexit/

I have read the full article at the link you posted above... And I didn't see anything regarding your claim above...!


Are you completely lying or are you just repeating bullshit that someone else has told you, without actually seeing for yourself if it is true or not...!?


Here is the full article...



Don't be surprised if this virus delays Brexit

Jeremy Warner

Jeremy Warner

13 March 2020 • 7:00am


As market chaos points to a global recession, calls will grow to extend the transition period

Finally it gets serious. Even with the explosion of deaths in Northern Italy and the shock and awe economic response announced by the UK Chancellor, Rishi Sunak, in his Budget this week, it was still possible to dismiss the coronavirus as a passing panic that by early summer might have burnt itself out.

But Donald Trump’s clumsy and apparently spiteful response in banning European passenger flights takes things to a whole new level and pretty much guarantees that the economic consequences transmogrify from a pronounced slowdown into a global recession.

That in any case is what the markets are now signalling. The waves from this virus just keep on growing, threatening wide-ranging geopolitical consequences on top of the social, economic and financial effects.

Could Covid-19 yet derail Brexit along with everything else? As we saw from this week’s Budget, this is a Government determined to keep its promises, and primary among them is that Britain leaves Europe’s single market and customs union at the end of this year come what may, with or without a free trade deal.

Up until now, this has seemed the right negotiating stance, but is it still credible in light of the gathering economic storm clouds of the Covid-19 outbreak?

It might be possible partially to cushion the UK economy from the shock of the virus, as Mr Sunak tried to in this week’s Budget, but to pile the additional challenge of a no-deal exit from the single market on top would be quite an ask.

Face to face meetings could soon become impossible, making progress on a free trade deal hard to achieve, and with bigger fish to fry, the Europeans might in any case simply decide unilaterally to terminate the talks until the coronavirus crisis subsides.

In such circumstances, would the UK simply plough ahead regardless or, with force majeure as an excuse, extend the transition? There are two ways of looking at this choice.

One is that preparations for a no-deal Brexit mean that, by chance, the UK economy is in remarkably good shape to withstand any prolonged international quarantine. We are already braced for much tougher border controls.

What is more, if the virus is still raging as we approach the end of the transition, a little extra economic harm from falling out of the single market without a free trade agreement is scarcely going to matter very much. It’ll all get lost in the wash.

In any case, if the virus causes the European economy to collapse into recession, sparking renewed crisis in the single currency, Brussels won’t want to pile on the agony by risking an acrimonious trade rupture with the UK. Brexit will become seen as a comparatively trivial matter to be settled in a needs-must, least-damage manner. They’ll cut a deal to avoid further nuisance.

Yet the other way of looking at the choice is that there would be no face to lose in agreeing an extension if the world is by then still gripped by the natural disaster of a killer disease. In the scale of things, a minor delay to Brexit would be of no significance.

Already, then, the crisis is raising major political issues on top of the more immediate concerns around public health and the economy. For all political leaders, the virus is a potentially existential threat. Get the response wrong, and citizens will find ways of punishing them just as severely as if they have failed on the economy, or for that matter Brexit.

If infection rates and deaths begin to spiral out of control, Boris Johnson will be in some difficulty, even with his newly won “stonking” majority, having decided not to go for the full scale lockdown imposed elsewhere.

Mindful of the criticism George W Bush was subjected to for his handling of Hurricane Katrina, meanwhile, President Trump is said to have become completely obsessed with the politics of what could be his own Katrina moment.

It has to be said that so far his approach to the crisis has been less than exemplary. A combination of a mishandled public response, a plunging stock market, a contracting economy and a Democratic Party that seems finally to have come to its senses in rejecting “mad Bernie” as its presidential nominee, could easily sink Trump’s chances of re-election for a second term.

For a President who measures his own success against the yardstick of stock market performance things are looking grim. One more week like this, and the S&P 500 will have given up all the gains made during his presidency.

Catastrophes come in many different forms; the coronavirus pandemic is obviously a very different kind of economic event from the financial crisis a decade ago – the disease an act of God and the latter wholly man-made. Yet the two may turn out to be not so dissimilar in their seminal repercussions.

Such events change the world, just when you are least expecting it. This is no passing hysteria; for myriad reasons, it will be remembered for a long time to come.







So... Can you point out the bit that you claim is there...???



If not... Tell us whether you are a liar or an incompetent gullible fool who just repeats the lies of others...!!!???

[gelico]

CASES         DEATHS         RECOVERED     UNRESOLVED
165,969         6,475            75,910              83,584

[Guest]

I have read the full article at the link you posted above... And I didn't see anything regarding your claim above...!


Are you completely lying or are you just repeating bullshit that someone else has told you, without actually seeing for yourself if it is true or not...!?


Here is the full article...



Don't be surprised if this virus delays Brexit

   Jeremy Warner

   Jeremy Warner

13 March 2020 • 7:00am


   As market chaos points to a global recession, calls will grow to extend the transition period

Finally it gets serious. Even with the explosion of deaths in Northern Italy and the shock and awe economic response announced by the UK Chancellor, Rishi Sunak, in his Budget this week, it was still possible to dismiss the coronavirus as a passing panic that by early summer might have burnt itself out.

But Donald Trump’s clumsy and apparently spiteful response in banning European passenger flights takes things to a whole new level and pretty much guarantees that the economic consequences transmogrify from a pronounced slowdown into a global recession.

That in any case is what the markets are now signalling. The waves from this virus just keep on growing, threatening wide-ranging geopolitical consequences on top of the social, economic and financial effects.

Could Covid-19 yet derail Brexit along with everything else? As we saw from this week’s Budget, this is a Government determined to keep its promises, and primary among them is that Britain leaves Europe’s single market and customs union at the end of this year come what may, with or without a free trade deal.

Up until now, this has seemed the right negotiating stance, but is it still credible in light of the gathering economic storm clouds of the Covid-19 outbreak?

It might be possible partially to cushion the UK economy from the shock of the virus, as Mr Sunak tried to in this week’s Budget, but to pile the additional challenge of a no-deal exit from the single market on top would be quite an ask.

Face to face meetings could soon become impossible, making progress on a free trade deal hard to achieve, and with bigger fish to fry, the Europeans might in any case simply decide unilaterally to terminate the talks until the coronavirus crisis subsides.

In such circumstances, would the UK simply plough ahead regardless or, with force majeure as an excuse, extend the transition? There are two ways of looking at this choice.

One is that preparations for a no-deal Brexit mean that, by chance, the UK economy is in remarkably good shape to withstand any prolonged international quarantine. We are already braced for much tougher border controls.

What is more, if the virus is still raging as we approach the end of the transition, a little extra economic harm from falling out of the single market without a free trade agreement is scarcely going to matter very much. It’ll all get lost in the wash.

In any case, if the virus causes the European economy to collapse into recession, sparking renewed crisis in the single currency, Brussels won’t want to pile on the agony by risking an acrimonious trade rupture with the UK. Brexit will become seen as a comparatively trivial matter to be settled in a needs-must, least-damage manner. They’ll cut a deal to avoid further nuisance.

Yet the other way of looking at the choice is that there would be no face to lose in agreeing an extension if the world is by then still gripped by the natural disaster of a killer disease. In the scale of things, a minor delay to Brexit would be of no significance.

Already, then, the crisis is raising major political issues on top of the more immediate concerns around public health and the economy. For all political leaders, the virus is a potentially existential threat. Get the response wrong, and citizens will find ways of punishing them just as severely as if they have failed on the economy, or for that matter Brexit.

If infection rates and deaths begin to spiral out of control, Boris Johnson will be in some difficulty, even with his newly won “stonking” majority, having decided not to go for the full scale lockdown imposed elsewhere.

Mindful of the criticism George W Bush was subjected to for his handling of Hurricane Katrina, meanwhile, President Trump is said to have become completely obsessed with the politics of what could be his own Katrina moment.

It has to be said that so far his approach to the crisis has been less than exemplary. A combination of a mishandled public response, a plunging stock market, a contracting economy and a Democratic Party that seems finally to have come to its senses in rejecting “mad Bernie” as its presidential nominee, could easily sink Trump’s chances of re-election for a second term.

For a President who measures his own success against the yardstick of stock market performance things are looking grim. One more week like this, and the S&P 500 will have given up all the gains made during his presidency.

Catastrophes come in many different forms; the coronavirus pandemic is obviously a very different kind of economic event from the financial crisis a decade ago – the disease an act of God and the latter wholly man-made. Yet the two may turn out to be not so dissimilar in their seminal repercussions.

Such events change the world, just when you are least expecting it. This is no passing hysteria; for myriad reasons, it will be remembered for a long time to come.







So... Can you point out the bit that you claim is there...???



If not... Tell us whether you are a liar or an incompetent gullible fool who just repeats the lies of others...!!!???

I am wise enough not to believe a single word you post, so that rules me out of the gullible stakes.

[nicko]

So your a "no Comment" chancer then ?

[Tommy Monk]

Jeremy Warner from the Telegrapgh is rather cheerful about the virus, claiming the cull on the elderly will boost the economy.

Hope he gets it. Chinless wonder.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/13/dont-surprised-virus-delays-brexit/

I have read the full article at the link you posted above... And I didn't see anything regarding your claim above...!


Are you completely lying or are you just repeating bullshit that someone else has told you, without actually seeing for yourself if it is true or not...!?


Here is the full article...



Don't be surprised if this virus delays Brexit

Jeremy Warner

Jeremy Warner

13 March 2020 • 7:00am


As market chaos points to a global recession, calls will grow to extend the transition period

Finally it gets serious. Even with the explosion of deaths in Northern Italy and the shock and awe economic response announced by the UK Chancellor, Rishi Sunak, in his Budget this week, it was still possible to dismiss the coronavirus as a passing panic that by early summer might have burnt itself out.

But Donald Trump’s clumsy and apparently spiteful response in banning European passenger flights takes things to a whole new level and pretty much guarantees that the economic consequences transmogrify from a pronounced slowdown into a global recession.

That in any case is what the markets are now signalling. The waves from this virus just keep on growing, threatening wide-ranging geopolitical consequences on top of the social, economic and financial effects.

Could Covid-19 yet derail Brexit along with everything else? As we saw from this week’s Budget, this is a Government determined to keep its promises, and primary among them is that Britain leaves Europe’s single market and customs union at the end of this year come what may, with or without a free trade deal.

Up until now, this has seemed the right negotiating stance, but is it still credible in light of the gathering economic storm clouds of the Covid-19 outbreak?

It might be possible partially to cushion the UK economy from the shock of the virus, as Mr Sunak tried to in this week’s Budget, but to pile the additional challenge of a no-deal exit from the single market on top would be quite an ask.

Face to face meetings could soon become impossible, making progress on a free trade deal hard to achieve, and with bigger fish to fry, the Europeans might in any case simply decide unilaterally to terminate the talks until the coronavirus crisis subsides.

In such circumstances, would the UK simply plough ahead regardless or, with force majeure as an excuse, extend the transition? There are two ways of looking at this choice.

One is that preparations for a no-deal Brexit mean that, by chance, the UK economy is in remarkably good shape to withstand any prolonged international quarantine. We are already braced for much tougher border controls.

What is more, if the virus is still raging as we approach the end of the transition, a little extra economic harm from falling out of the single market without a free trade agreement is scarcely going to matter very much. It’ll all get lost in the wash.

In any case, if the virus causes the European economy to collapse into recession, sparking renewed crisis in the single currency, Brussels won’t want to pile on the agony by risking an acrimonious trade rupture with the UK. Brexit will become seen as a comparatively trivial matter to be settled in a needs-must, least-damage manner. They’ll cut a deal to avoid further nuisance.

Yet the other way of looking at the choice is that there would be no face to lose in agreeing an extension if the world is by then still gripped by the natural disaster of a killer disease. In the scale of things, a minor delay to Brexit would be of no significance.

Already, then, the crisis is raising major political issues on top of the more immediate concerns around public health and the economy. For all political leaders, the virus is a potentially existential threat. Get the response wrong, and citizens will find ways of punishing them just as severely as if they have failed on the economy, or for that matter Brexit.

If infection rates and deaths begin to spiral out of control, Boris Johnson will be in some difficulty, even with his newly won “stonking” majority, having decided not to go for the full scale lockdown imposed elsewhere.

Mindful of the criticism George W Bush was subjected to for his handling of Hurricane Katrina, meanwhile, President Trump is said to have become completely obsessed with the politics of what could be his own Katrina moment.

It has to be said that so far his approach to the crisis has been less than exemplary. A combination of a mishandled public response, a plunging stock market, a contracting economy and a Democratic Party that seems finally to have come to its senses in rejecting “mad Bernie” as its presidential nominee, could easily sink Trump’s chances of re-election for a second term.

For a President who measures his own success against the yardstick of stock market performance things are looking grim. One more week like this, and the S&P 500 will have given up all the gains made during his presidency.

Catastrophes come in many different forms; the coronavirus pandemic is obviously a very different kind of economic event from the financial crisis a decade ago – the disease an act of God and the latter wholly man-made. Yet the two may turn out to be not so dissimilar in their seminal repercussions.

Such events change the world, just when you are least expecting it. This is no passing hysteria; for myriad reasons, it will be remembered for a long time to come.







So... Can you point out the bit that you claim is there...???



If not... Tell us whether you are a liar or an incompetent gullible fool who just repeats the lies of others...!!!???

[nicko]

He is both !

[Tommy Monk]

How embarrassing...!!!

[Tommy Monk]

He is both !

I think you are right Nicko.


He reminds me of another poster who left here recently, vowing never to post here again...


He would often post outright lies and then run away too when confronted with the truth!

[Tommy Monk]

Still waiting for Brutus to explain his outright lying bullshit about the Telegraph journalist...!!!???

[nicko]

Sounds very much like our own Andy, he'd run away when he couldn't answer a question !

[Tommy Monk]

Sounds very much like our own Andy, he'd run away when he couldn't answer a question !

Yes... Handy Andy would often post bullshit and lies and when shown up for it, he would run away for a few days...


I wonder if Brutus knows handy Andy...!?

[nicko]

+1

[eddie]

[Maddog]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


As I post this, it looks like several European countries are compiling new death numbers as they are currently blank. Italy in particular.

How is it that S Korea has turned the corner on this while Italy and much of the rest of Europe cant?

[Tommy Monk]

South Korea probably had a quicker and more stringent lockdown in areas and movement of people.

[Tommy Monk]

Total UK cases COVID-19 as of 09:00 on 17/03/20



Hampshire: 69

Southwark: 58

Westminster: 58

Kensington and Chelsea: 49

Lambeth: 43

Hertfordshire: 36

Surrey: 30

Oxfordshire: 25

Barnet: 24

Brent: 24

Devon: 24

Bromley: 23

Hammersmith and Fulham: 23

Tower Hamlets: 23

Buckinghamshire: 23

Hackney and City of London: 22

Cumbria: 22

Ealing: 21

Wandsworth: 21

Essex: 21

Birmingham: 20

Camden: 20

Greenwich: 19

Wolverhampton: 18

Lewisham: 18

Kent: 18

Haringey: 17

Newham: 17

Hillingdon: 16

Harrow: 15

Hounslow: 15

Lancashire: 15

Manchester: 14

Bexley: 14

Walsall: 13

Merton: 13

Nottinghamshire: 13

Nottingham: 12

Slough: 12

Trafford: 12

Cambridgeshire: 12

Northamptonshire: 12

Liverpool: 11

Leeds: 11

Islington: 11

Gloucestershire: 11

Cornwall and Isles of Scilly: 10

Oldham: 10

Stockport: 10

Tameside: 10

Enfield: 10

Sutton: 10

Staffordshire: 10

West Sussex: 10

East Riding of Yorkshire: 9

Windsor and Maidenhead: 9

Brighton and Hove: 9

Dudley: 9

Barking and Dagenham: 9

Bristol, City of: 8

Wokingham: 8

North Yorkshire: 8

Cheshire East: 7

Wiltshire: 7

Bury: 7

Bradford: 7

Havering: 7

Waltham Forest: 7

East Sussex: 7

Leicestershire: 7

South Gloucestershire: 6

Torbay: 6

Central Bedfordshire: 6

Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole: 6

Wirral: 6

Sandwell: 6

Croydon: 6

Cheshire West and Chester: 5

Bolton: 5

Newcastle upon Tyne: 5

Derbyshire: 5

Somerset: 5

Southend-on-Sea: 4

Medway: 4

Rochdale: 4

Salford: 4

Wigan: 4

Wakefield: 4

Redbridge: 4

Lincolnshire: 4

Warwickshire: 4

Stockton-on-Tees: 3

Halton: 3

Warrington: 3

Blackpool: 3

York: 3

Bath and North East Somerset: 3

North Somerset: 3

Luton: 3

Bracknell Forest: 3

West Berkshire: 3

Reading: 3

Milton Keynes: 3

Portsmouth: 3

Southampton: 3

Sefton: 3

North Tyneside: 3

Coventry: 3

Calderdale: 3

Richmond upon Thames: 3

Norfolk: 3

Suffolk: 3

Plymouth: 2

Swindon: 2

Isle of Wight: 2

Shropshire: 2

Dorset: 2

St. Helens: 2

Barnsley: 2

Kirklees: 2

Redcar and Cleveland: 1

Darlington: 1

Blackburn with Darwen: 1

Kingston upon Hull, City of: 1

North Lincolnshire: 1

Herefordshire, County of: 1

Thurrock: 1

County Durham: 1

Bedford: 1

Knowsley: 1

Rotherham: 1

Sheffield: 1

Sunderland: 1

Solihull: 1

Kingston upon Thames: 1

Worcestershire: 1

[Tommy Monk]

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ae5dda8f86814ae99dde905d2a9070ae

[Maddog]

South Korea probably had a quicker and more stringent lockdown in areas and movement of people.

Nope. No lockdowns in S Korea.

[Tommy Monk]

Or maybe they aren't being honest about their figures...?

[Tommy Monk]

Or maybe although there are no official lockdowns as such, more people are staying home more often to avoid contact and spreading virus, and are being more careful while out too...?

[Maddog]

Or maybe although there are no official lockdowns as such, more people are staying home more often to avoid contact and spreading virus, and are being more careful while out too...?

They did close schools and restaurants and such. But they didnt lock down their people. They are also testing a lot of people and working backwards when they find an infected person.

They are hunting with a rifle, not a sawed off shotgun.

[Tommy Monk]

Or maybe although there are no official lockdowns as such, more people are staying home more often to avoid contact and spreading virus, and are being more careful while out too...?

They did close schools and restaurants and such. But they didnt lock down their people. They are also testing a lot of people and working backwards when they find an infected person.

They are hunting with a rifle, not a sawed off shotgun.

The closing of schools and restaurants etc is sort of what I meant by lockdown... I didn't mean army checkpoints and enforced no go zones etc...


Here in UK it has been a bit slow... We haven't even closed schools yet.

[Maddog]

They did close schools and restaurants and such.  But they didnt lock down their people.  They are also testing a lot of people and working backwards when they find an infected person.

They are hunting with a rifle, not a sawed off shotgun.  

The closing of schools and restaurants etc is sort of what I meant by lockdown... I didn't mean army checkpoints and enforced no go zones etc...


Here in UK it has been a bit slow... We haven't even closed schools yet.

Ok some countries have lockdowns and fines for people who leave their home.

[Tommy Monk]

Yes, I wasn't clear what I meant


But the only way (at the moment) to stop the spread and to see the virus die out, is to avoid contact with the virus, and that means avoid contact between all of us.

[Tommy Monk]

Closed Cases

93,291
Cases which had an outcome:

84,383 (90%)
Recovered / Discharged

8,908 (10%)
Dead

[Ben Reilly]

Boris Johnson has detailed a raft of new measures to tackle coronavirus including help for renters and enhanced sick pay, and has said there will be an imminent decision on school closures.

He used prime minister’s questions, which was attended by far fewer MPs than usual and who sat further apart from each other, to thank everyone who has worked in schools, but hinted that changes were to be expected soon.

All schools to close from Friday; GCSE and A-level exams cancelled – UK coronavirus, as it happened
Read more
Johnson said: “Of course we will do everything we can to remove burdens on schools and Ofsted is one in particular we can address. The house should expect further decisions to be taken imminently on schools and how to make sure we square the circle of making sure we stop the spread of the disease but also making sure we relieve, as much as we can, pressure on our NHS.”

Johnson also suggested a number of significant changes would come into force to help the lowest paid after a series of questions from the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, the Commons leader of the Scottish National party, Ian Blackford, and other MPs.

A temporary universal basic income is among the measures being considered, it has emerged. After being asked twice about it, Johnson said: “Of course that is one of the ideas that will certainly be considered.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/boris-johnson-details-raft-of-new-coronavirus-measures-at-pmqs

[eddie]

Let’s hope Boris looks after his people. We certainly need it.

[Guest]

The inhaled drug can already help asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease patients with other lung infections.

Doctors are to begin giving critically ill COVID-19 patients a new treatment as soon as Monday.

The experimental drug, code named SNG001, will initially be given to patients at Southampton General Hospital as part of the first trial of its kind.

The inhaled treatment has already been shown to improve the recovery of asthma and COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) patients who have other lung infections, such as flu.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-new-treatment-for-critically-ill-patients-to-begin-as-soon-as-next-week-11959914

[eddie]

The inhaled drug can already help asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease patients with other lung infections.

Doctors are to begin giving critically ill COVID-19 patients a new treatment as soon as Monday.

The experimental drug, code named SNG001, will initially be given to patients at Southampton General Hospital as part of the first trial of its kind.

The inhaled treatment has already been shown to improve the recovery of asthma and COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) patients who have other lung infections, such as flu.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-new-treatment-for-critically-ill-patients-to-begin-as-soon-as-next-week-11959914

That’s good news. Would it help your asthma didge?

[Guest]

The inhaled drug can already help asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease patients with other lung infections.

Doctors are to begin giving critically ill COVID-19 patients a new treatment as soon as Monday.

The experimental drug, code named SNG001, will initially be given to patients at Southampton General Hospital as part of the first trial of its kind.

The inhaled treatment has already been shown to improve the recovery of asthma and COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) patients who have other lung infections, such as flu.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-new-treatment-for-critically-ill-patients-to-begin-as-soon-as-next-week-11959914

That’s good news. Would it help your asthma didge?

It does not help my asthma Eddie

You do not help asthma, you combat this

It helps people who have asthma and COPD when they have flu

I have not had flu in over 15 years

Because I have flu jabs

[eddie]

Ah okay. I understand. Just thought I’d ask.

[Guest]

People need to learn one thing about this virus. It attacks the weak and the strong

There are people in intensive care who are as fit as fiddles. Who are now needing a device that can only able people to stay alive through providing oxygen within their blood, when their lungs are no longer able to

This is an advance form of medication used through a nebulizer, when they have flu. 

This is a form of flu. That fills up the air sacks of the lungs of people and denies them the ability of being able to oxygenate their blood. That without, they cannot survive

The reason why many older people are dying. Is simple based on a time frame based on maths and their ability to withstand the attack to their lungs. Its all based on the wear and tare of their lungs and the ability to allow time for their immune system to fight this

With those younger, they have healthy lungs and thus have a far greater space to allow their immune system to cope with this

Hence its far more of a ticking time bomb, for those who have lung conditions and those who have or do smoke. As the later has damaged the protective capabilities of their lungs. To with stand such an onslaught

Take that as you will

I am not afraid of this

I am more concerned over those less able to have the time for their immune system to be able to rise to the challenge to combat this

[Tommy Monk]

Didge... Keep yourself safe mate... Keeping away from high risk interactions is key... And be mindful to keep washing your hands after touching anything that is likely to be a source of virus transfer... Every day stuff like using a cash machine and handling money when buying stuff, using a petrol pump, door handles, etc... Even think about food/items that you might buy being a possible contaminated surface, and wash/rinse things when you get home, before putting them away in fridge/cupboards etc...

[Guest]

Didge... Keep yourself safe mate... Keeping away from high risk interactions is key... And be mindful to keep washing your hands after touching anything that is likely to be a source of virus transfer... Every day stuff like using a cash machine and handling money when buying stuff, using a petrol pump, door handles, etc... Even think about food/items that you might buy being a possible contaminated surface, and wash/rinse things when you get home, before putting them away in fridge/cupboards etc...

Thanks Tommy, I already know this, but am ill concerned at my own safety

I am far more concerned for others

[Tommy Monk]

By being careful ourselves, we are ensuring a level of safety for others.

[Guest]

By being careful ourselves, we are ensuring a level of safety for others.

I am not in disagreement with that Tommy

But, we have to sometimes place ourselves at risk to help others

[Tommy Monk]

Not sure what you mean there...


But what I'm saying is that if you're careful to avoid catching it, then you can't spread it to anyone else...


And if everyone is careful the same way, then this massively reduces the spread...

[Guest]

Not sure what you mean there...


But what I'm saying is that if you're careful to avoid catching it, then you can't spread it to anyone else...


And if everyone is careful the same way, then this massively reduces the spread...

You are trying to tell me to suck eggs

In any of my pots, do you believe i DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS?

[eddie]

I spoke to an army official at work today, a customer, he said that we had to actually stop people from congregating in public places.

People here, are still going to pubs and restaurants.

Go figure.

[Guest]

I spoke to an army official at work today, a customer, he said that we had to actually stop people from congregating in public places.

People here, are still going to pubs and restaurants.

Go figure.

Because it has not hit home the gravity of this Eddie

I have spent the last few weeks at work. Telling a 29 year old, who goes to the gym every other day and is fully fit. This will come up to bite you in the Butt. 

Only now his girlfriend, who is on thew risk list can no longer be with him and be apart from him. Has his eyes finally opened

Before it was only ever a joke

She has to self isolate

[eddie]

I spoke to an army official at work today, a customer, he said that we had to actually stop people from congregating in public places.

People here, are still going to pubs and restaurants.

Go figure.

Because it has not hit home the gravity of this Eddie

I have spent the last few weeks at work. Telling a 29 year old, who goes to the gym every other day and is fully fit. This will come up to bite you in the Butt. 

Only now his girlfriend, who is on thew risk list can no longer be with him and be apart from him. Has his eyes finally opened

Before it was only ever a joke

She has to self isolate

Yes, people need to remain sensible. I agree.

[Tommy Monk]

Not sure what you mean there...


But what I'm saying is that if you're careful to avoid catching it, then you can't spread it to anyone else...


And if everyone is careful the same way, then this massively reduces the spread...

You are trying to tell me to suck eggs

In any of my pots, do you believe i DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS?

I'm just being friendly and wishing you well didge...


I have no ulterior motive in this gesture of goodwill.


Please take it in the manner which it is intended.

[Guest]

You are trying to tell me to suck eggs

In any of my pots, do you believe i DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS?

I'm just being friendly and wishing you well didge...


I have no ulterior motive in this gesture of goodwill.


Please take it in the manner which it is intended.

No worries Tommy

Thank you

[eddie]

Not sure what you mean there...


But what I'm saying is that if you're careful to avoid catching it, then you can't spread it to anyone else...


And if everyone is careful the same way, then this massively reduces the spread...

You are trying to tell me to suck eggs

In any of my pots, do you believe i DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS?

I'm just being friendly and wishing you well didge...


I have no ulterior motive in this gesture of goodwill.


Please take it in the manner which it is intended.

Tommy not everyone thinks you’re an idiot. I read that you meant him well. Don’t worry.

[Guest]

I'm just being friendly and wishing you well didge...


I have no ulterior motive in this gesture of goodwill.


Please take it in the manner which it is intended.

Tommy not everyone thinks you’re an idiot. I read that you meant him well. Don’t worry.

Fair point, Tommy did mean well and I took the wrong way

I apologise Tommy

[Tommy Monk]

No worries...

[Guest]

No worries...

Cool mate, am going to bed

Take care and all the best

[eddie]

I'm just being friendly and wishing you well didge...


I have no ulterior motive in this gesture of goodwill.


Please take it in the manner which it is intended.

Tommy not everyone thinks you’re an idiot. I read that you meant him well. Don’t worry.

Fair point, Tommy did mean well and I took the wrong way

I apologise Tommy

I like the fact you can apologise. It’s kinda nice. You can be hard work but you can be quite loveable.

Having said that, you’ll probably piss me off soon, or vice versa.

[Tommy Monk]

Closed Cases

105,566
Cases which had an outcome:

93,617 (89%)
Recovered / Discharged

11,949 (11%)
Deaths

[Sponsored content]