Coronavirus updates (gelico's original thread)

[gelico]

First topic message reminder :

seems to be spreading rapidly

tests show it started in a animal market

[Guest]

And one media report is to what people should form their views from?

Or the fact that this virus is actually causing the deaths of many people?

Death from flu is under 1%

Death so far from this is near 5%

That is one in 20 people

Hence its very likely this will effect someone we know

This is a real case of denial by people to the extent of what potential harm, this could actually cause and the knock on effects economically from this

And yet you claim this is hype?

Is that really what your view is. Or has Eddie convinced you otherwise mate?

Don't. Just don't make it out like I'm only saying this because it's what's my wife thinks. That's cheap, a poor argument and you're only making yourself look bad.

I am saying this because its true

You would never form this position as an atheist

Only a person paranoid would form such views

On this I am never wrong

[eddie]

What has atheism got to do with the Coronavirus?

[JulesV]

We stocked up on non perishable foods, just in case.
Not panicking, just being cautious.
A forced quarantine scenario has not been ruled out. We'll want food in the house if that happens.  


When the govt started discussing  ''creating extra mortuary spaces''  and maybe calling up retired doctors  it means  >

[Eilzel]

We stocked up on non perishable foods, just in case.
Not panicking, just being cautious.
A forced quarantine scenario has not been ruled out. We'll want food in the house if that happens.  


When the govt started discussing  ''creating extra mortuary spaces''  and maybe calling up retired doctors  it means  >

I think I read that they are already setting up plans for a lot more food deliveries in the case of that extreme scenario - though I don't think it will come to that in the UK.
Stock piling food does just seem to be cause more problems for people on top of the spread of the virus itself.

[Eilzel]

I think a lot of people are taking this to two extremes. On the one hand you have the complete ignorance of claiming it is nothing serious at all, that it's (to follow Trump's inane lead) 'just the flu' and seem disinterested in any of the advice to self-quarantine, be extra vigilant where hand washing is concerned etc.

Then you have the other side who seem to think we are approaching the end times, that the virus will cripple civilisation and that we need to bunker in with every canned food we can find.

Can't people just be ration about it? It DOES have the potential to be far worse and cause far more damage if you pretend it is nothing to worry about. Wuhan didn't go into lock down over 'the flu' nor has Milan. It IS absolutely serious, especially for old or already vulnerable people - take care for THEIR sake, even if not your own.

But on the other hand, don't let it dictate your life. Don't fret endlessly over it. And don't empty shelves and make everyone's lives more inconvenient and difficult for it.

[eddie]

I think you’re both being a little OTT....

Besides anything else, if you have the flu you ain’t gonna wanna eat.

Media over hype.

Just sayin’.

[JulesV]

We stocked up on non perishable foods, just in case.
Not panicking, just being cautious.
A forced quarantine scenario has not been ruled out. We'll want food in the house if that happens.  


When the govt started discussing  ''creating extra mortuary spaces''  and maybe calling up retired doctors  it means  >

I think I read that they are already setting up plans for a lot more food deliveries in the case of that extreme scenario - though I don't think it will come to that in the UK.
Stock piling food does just seem to be cause more problems for people on top of the spread of the virus itself.

Some supermarkets were warning the govt that they may not be able to cope with that.
It's hard to sit on your hands when a little effort could potentially make a big difference.
'Stockpiling' is a subjective term.

[eddie]

Tommy, I have to say, you are the last person I would have expected to have bought into the hype over this virus.

I actually read a media report on it this morning that is far less alarmist than you are being!

And one media report is to what people should form their views from?

Or the fact that this virus is actually causing the deaths of many people?

Death from flu is under 1%

Death so far from this is near 5%

That is one in 20 people

Hence its very likely this will effect someone we know

This is a real case of denial by people to the extent of what potential harm, this could actually cause and the knock on effects economically from this

And yet you claim this is hype?

Is that really what your view is. Or has Eddie convinced you otherwise mate?

Your last sentence makes me know that you just use personal attacks when you have nothing else.
Just stop the ego wank fest.

[Eilzel]

I think you’re both being a little OTT....

Besides anything else, if you have the flu you ain’t gonna wanna eat.

Media over hype.

Just sayin’.

It would only be a flu for me or you, for old people it has a significantly higher chance of being fatal.

[JulesV]

I think you’re both being a little OTT....

Besides anything else, if you have the flu you ain’t gonna wanna eat.

Media over hype.

Just sayin’.

A compulsory lockdown of entire neighbourhoods or districts (like there is in parts of Milan) does not necessarily mean all the forcibly quarantined people are ill.

Anyways I always have a good appetite when I have a cold for some strange reason. "Feed a cold, starve a fever.”
I cannot feel a zen-like calm while the corona figures keep climbing.

[Guest]

I think you’re both being a little OTT....

Besides anything else, if you have the flu you ain’t gonna wanna eat.

Media over hype.

Just sayin’.

Little OTT?

This coming from someone who has zero medical training.

Besides anything else and in fact it proves my point

People would have to be mentally unbalanced to take medical advice from you

I am being deadly serious on that

[Guest]

And one media report is to what people should form their views from?

Or the fact that this virus is actually causing the deaths of many people?

Death from flu is under 1%

Death so far from this is near 5%

That is one in 20 people

Hence its very likely this will effect someone we know

This is a real case of denial by people to the extent of what potential harm, this could actually cause and the knock on effects economically from this

And yet you claim this is hype?

Is that really what your view is. Or has Eddie convinced you otherwise mate?

Your last sentence makes me know that you just use personal attacks when you have nothing else.
Just stop the ego wank fest.

Its not about being personal. It has everything to do with safeguarding people from your ignorance here

That is the reality of this situation. Where we have people like yourself Eddie, that fill peoples head with lies and crap in regard to illnesses

I am here to ensure people understand in this regard, you certainly and constantly talk crap on this

I fail to see how that is even sexual and for you to think it is, says more about your sexual desires than mine

[Guest]

I think you’re both being a little OTT....

Besides anything else, if you have the flu you ain’t gonna wanna eat.

Media over hype.

Just sayin’.

It would only be a flu for me or you, for old people it has a significantly higher chance of being fatal.

Its not just older people

It will have severe effects to people with heart conditions, diabetes, asthma, those with low immune systems etc

[Eilzel]

And one media report is to what people should form their views from?

Or the fact that this virus is actually causing the deaths of many people?

Death from flu is under 1%

Death so far from this is near 5%

That is one in 20 people

Hence its very likely this will effect someone we know

This is a real case of denial by people to the extent of what potential harm, this could actually cause and the knock on effects economically from this

And yet you claim this is hype?

Is that really what your view is. Or has Eddie convinced you otherwise mate?

Your last sentence makes me know that you just use personal attacks when you have nothing else.
Just stop the ego wank fest.

Its not about being personal. It has everything to do with safeguarding people from your ignorance here

That is the reality of this situation. Where we have people like yourself Eddie, that fill peoples head with lies and crap in regard to illnesses

I am here to ensure people understand in this regard, you certainly and constantly talk crap on this

I fail to see how that is even sexual and for you to think it is, says more about your sexual desires than mine

You're doing well as misinterpreting what people say aren't you?

There's nothing to do with sexual desires in Eds post. While I completely disagree with her views on this, she is right to pull you on your constantly insulting nature. You came in both corona threads with insults at everyone who questioned you. You are ego tripping, trying to catch people out all the time and show boat. I don't know who you think you're trying to impress, but it appears not to be working with anyone

[Guest]

Its not about being personal. It has everything to do with safeguarding people from your ignorance here

That is the reality of this situation. Where we have people like yourself Eddie, that fill peoples head with lies and crap in regard to illnesses

I am here to ensure people understand in this regard, you certainly and constantly talk crap on this

I fail to see how that is even sexual and for you to think it is, says more about your sexual desires than mine

You're doing well as misinterpreting what people say aren't you?

There's nothing to do with sexual desires in Eds post. While I completely disagree with her views on this, she is right to pull you on your constantly insulting nature. You came in both corona threads with insults at everyone who questioned you. You are ego tripping, trying to catch people out all the time and show boat. I don't know who you think you're trying to impress, but it appears not to be working with anyone

Well that is because you are a pathetic snowflake who cares more about feelings here, over that of safeguarding people from ignorant views

It has zero to do with ego or show boating

This has to do with the very fact Eddies medical advice is appalling which could lead to possible consequences for people who buy into this

So yet again you get this wrong, as I am not trying to impress anyone

[Eilzel]

Its not about being personal. It has everything to do with safeguarding people from your ignorance here

That is the reality of this situation. Where we have people like yourself Eddie, that fill peoples head with lies and crap in regard to illnesses

I am here to ensure people understand in this regard, you certainly and constantly talk crap on this

I fail to see how that is even sexual and for you to think it is, says more about your sexual desires than mine

You're doing well as misinterpreting what people say aren't you?

There's nothing to do with sexual desires in Eds post. While I completely disagree with her views on this, she is right to pull you on your constantly insulting nature. You came in both corona threads with insults at everyone who questioned you. You are ego tripping, trying to catch people out all the time and show boat. I don't know who you think you're trying to impress, but it appears not to be working with anyone

Well that is because you are a pathetic snowflake who cares more about feelings here, over that of safeguarding people from ignorant views

It has zero to do with ego or show boating

This has to do with the very fact Eddies medical advice is appalling which could lead to possible consequences for people who buy into this

So yet again you get this wrong, as I am not trying to impress anyone

What's pathetic is you responding to Ben then trying to undermine him by bringing his wife into the discussion.

[Guest]

Well that is because you are a pathetic snowflake who cares more about feelings here, over that of safeguarding people from ignorant views

It has zero to do with ego or show boating

This has to do with the very fact Eddies medical advice is appalling which could lead to possible consequences for people who buy into this

So yet again you get this wrong, as I am not trying to impress anyone

What's pathetic is you responding to Ben then trying to undermine him by bringing his wife into the discussion.

How is it undermining when there is an element of truth to this?

You however do not want to explore this possibility it is Eddie that has convinced him here

How is that somehow wrong eh?

Hence you are being a pathetic "white knight" here

[Tommy Monk]

Maybe some people have just bought up some supplies so they can stay at home for a few weeks to avoid catching this virus...?

[Tommy Monk]

64,566
Cases which had an outcome:

60,914 (94%)
Recovered / Discharged

3,652 (6%)
Deaths



Italy now 16 million people in lockdown as areas are in forced quarantine.

[gelico]

''safeguarding'' people from ignorance

[Cass]

Maybe some people have just bought up some supplies so they can stay at home for a few weeks to avoid catching this virus...?

I don’t agree with you hardly at all, but on this you are correct. It’s exactly what Jules and I have done. Of course there will be people who go overboard but for the most part, people are being sensible.

It’s the same with people who live in a hurricane, earthquake or tornado area. They always should have a few weeks supply of food, bottled water and basic essentials on hand. Better to be prepared than caught out.

[Cass]

''safeguarding'' people from ignorance

I hope Bean is feeling better. The whole mess of icky stuff going round this year is just awful and leaves you flat out.

[eddie]

Its not about being personal. It has everything to do with safeguarding people from your ignorance here

That is the reality of this situation. Where we have people like yourself Eddie, that fill peoples head with lies and crap in regard to illnesses

I am here to ensure people understand in this regard, you certainly and constantly talk crap on this

I fail to see how that is even sexual and for you to think it is, says more about your sexual desires than mine

You're doing well as misinterpreting what people say aren't you?

There's nothing to do with sexual desires in Eds post. While I completely disagree with her views on this, she is right to pull you on your constantly insulting nature. You came in both corona threads with insults at everyone who questioned you. You are ego tripping, trying to catch people out all the time and show boat. I don't know who you think you're trying to impress, but it appears not to be working with anyone

Well that is because you are a pathetic snowflake who cares more about feelings here, over that of safeguarding people from ignorant views

It has zero to do with ego or show boating

This has to do with the very fact Eddies medical advice is appalling which could lead to possible consequences for people who buy into this

So yet again you get this wrong, as I am not trying to impress anyone

What's pathetic is you responding to Ben then trying to undermine him by bringing his wife into the discussion.

Exactly. Thank you. Everyone knows “ego wank fest” has nothing to do with sex.

And perhaps didge can show me where I have given anyone “medical advice”?

[Ben Reilly]

If eddie's given any advice at all anywhere on here about the coronavirus, it's that people shouldn't freak out about it -- which, by the way, doctors are saying as well.

Thanks, Les, for pointing out Didge's sad attempt to get under mine and eddie's skin.

[Guest]

If eddie's given any advice at all anywhere on here about the coronavirus, it's that people shouldn't freak out about it -- which, by the way, doctors are saying as well.

Thanks, Les, for pointing out Didge's sad attempt to get under mine and eddie's skin.

Wrong again. As I am not trying to get under Eddies skin

She simple is the last person I would take advice from in regards to medical matters

That does not make me like eddie any less. It simple means I think she is clueless in this regard

Saying people should not freak out when they will is also as about as dumb as it gets

It fails to understand the psychology of humans

Sop there was no sad attempt here, I am simple pointing out, I would rather seek advice from Jesus, than listen to Eddie in regards to medical matters

[eddie]

What advice did I give? I said I think it’s all a bit OTT.
How is that medical advice?

[Ben Reilly]

If eddie's given any advice at all anywhere on here about the coronavirus, it's that people shouldn't freak out about it -- which, by the way, doctors are saying as well.

Thanks, Les, for pointing out Didge's sad attempt to get under mine and eddie's skin.

Wrong again. As I am not trying to get under Eddies skin

She simple is the last person I would take advice from in regards to medical matters

That does not make me like eddie any less. It simple means I think she is clueless in this regard

Saying people should not freak out when they will is also as about as dumb as it gets

It fails to understand the psychology of humans

Sop there was no sad attempt here, I am simple pointing out, I would rather seek advice from Jesus, than listen to Eddie in regards to medical matters

Yeah, but she has't given any advice.

[Guest]

What advice did I give? I said I think it’s all a bit OTT.
How is that medical advice?

You think its OTT

Based on what?

[eddie]

What advice did I give? I said I think it’s all a bit OTT.
How is that medical advice?

You think its OTT

Based on what?

How is that medical advice? You still haven’t said.

[Guest]

You think its OTT

Based on what?

How is that medical advice? You still haven’t said.  

You claim its a bit OTT

How?

People are dying Eddie

More than would have happened without this

[eddie]

You think its OTT

Based on what?

How is that medical advice? You still haven’t said.  

You claim its a bit OTT

How?

People are dying Eddie

More than would have happened without this

And...where is my medical advice? You still haven’t said.

[Guest]

You claim its a bit OTT

How?

People are dying Eddie

More than would have happened without this

And...where is my medical advice? You still haven’t said.

The medical advice?

Its prevention. What have you done to follow this advice Eddie?

[eddie]

You claim its a bit OTT

How?

People are dying Eddie

More than would have happened without this

And...where is my medical advice? You still haven’t said.

The medical advice?

Its prevention. What have you done to follow this advice Eddie?

Again...where did I give medical advice, didge? You still haven’t said.

[Guest]

The medical advice?

Its prevention. What have you done to follow this advice Eddie?

Again...where did I give medical advice, didge? You still haven’t said.

Okay Eddie, what would your medical advice be here

To gamble on contracting this virus and surviving or obtaining a vaccine?

[gelico]

And...where is my medical advice? You still haven’t said.

The medical advice?

Its prevention. What have you done to follow this advice Eddie?

eddie never mentioned prevention at all. she didn't give any medical advice so that saves you having to ''simple'' not listen

[gelico]

Again...where did I give medical advice, didge? You still haven’t said.

Okay Eddie, what would your medical advice be here

To gamble on contracting this virus and surviving or obtaining a vaccine?

uh?

you serious?

[Guest]

The medical advice?

Its prevention. What have you done to follow this advice Eddie?

eddie never mentioned prevention at all.  she didn't give any medical advice so that saves you having to ''simple'' not listen

Oh here comes Tinkerbell to berate me for a question that Eddie has not answered

How about you understand gelico, I know exactly what position eddie comes from on this

You may disagree and that is your choice, but stop being a suck up and allow her to answer to the question

[gelico]

''People would have to be mentally unbalanced to take medical advice from you
I am being deadly serious on that''



''Its not about being personal. It has everything to do with safeguarding people from your ignorance here

That is the reality of this situation. Where we have people like yourself Eddie, that fill peoples head with lies and crap in regard to illnesses

I am here to ensure people understand in this regard, you certainly and constantly talk crap on this''


duh>

[Maddog]

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-airlines-run-empty-ghost-flights-planes-passengers-outbreak-covid-2020-3

Not sure what thread to post this bit of nonsense.

[Guest]

''People would have to be mentally unbalanced to take medical advice from you
I am being deadly serious on that''



''Its not about being personal. It has everything to do with safeguarding people from your ignorance here

That is the reality of this situation. Where we have people like yourself Eddie, that fill peoples head with lies and crap in regard to illnesses

I am here to ensure people understand in this regard, you certainly and constantly talk crap on this''


duh>

Its not personal

Its reality

Hence why has eddie not answered my question gelico?

Go figuire

[Guest]

Okay Eddie, what would your medical advice be here

To gamble on contracting this virus and surviving or obtaining a vaccine?

uh?

you serious?

Very serious

What do you think eddies views is on vaccines?

[Guest]

And this is why this is even a bigger problem

Gelico fails to see the issue here

That she fails to see that eddie has no idea on medical issues and yet presents views on this based on her beliefs

I am not attacking Eddie

I am attacking her poor unfounded unscientific medical beliefs

[eddie]

The medical advice?

Its prevention. What have you done to follow this advice Eddie?

Again...where did I give medical advice, didge? You still haven’t said.

Okay Eddie, what would your medical advice be here

To gamble on contracting this virus and surviving or obtaining a vaccine?

You claimed I gave medical advice. You still haven’t said what it is. I’ve asked you many times.

[Guest]

Okay Eddie, what would your medical advice be here

To gamble on contracting this virus and surviving or obtaining a vaccine?

You claimed I gave medical advice. You still haven’t said what it is. I’ve asked you many times.

I stated not to take your advice,

I stand by this, because you do not believe in medical science

If you did, you would support vaccines

I stand by this, not to take your advice medically

It would be like placing a 44 magnum against your own head and telling that person to pull the trigger to combat brain cancer

[eddie]

I will ask you one more time, and I hope you answer without the waffle.

Where did I give any medical advice about the Coronavirus?

You still haven’t said.

Don’t worry, I know you can’t answer but will instead make posts about anything other than my question.

[Guest]

I will ask you one more time, and I hope you answer without the waffle.

Where did I give any medical advice about the Coronavirus?

You still haven’t said.

Don’t worry, I know you can’t answer but will instead make posts about anything other than my question.  

I will happily answer eddie

It comes in part of a question to you

Would you expose your own daughter to this virus, or provide her with a potential vaccine?

Hence I already know the answer to many of your points

[Guest]

[gelico]

''safeguarding'' people from ignorance

I hope Bean is feeling better. The whole mess of icky stuff going round this year is just awful and leaves you flat out.

thank you cass, she is

i haven't been ill myself and i dosed up bean with honey, fresh squeezed orange, ginger and brandy, like 3 times and she stayed in bed and the following morning insisted on going in. she puts garlic into just about everything she eats so she's probably more able to fight it than some i guess.

hope you're recovered too. the only thing i can say is to naturally boost your own immune as much as possible x

besides drinking honey, orange and ginger even without having a virus is great because you then just HAVE to add brandy to make it complete

#just saying

[gelico]

amyhoos, oddly enough the chinese stats have remained static over the last 3 days. the amount of cases has remained around 80,000 and around 3000 deaths with 5,000 serious/critical. nothing has changed. either the virus has miraculously disappeared from China OR they aren't releasing info

hopefully the former but i'm not so sure

[Ben Reilly]

I will ask you one more time, and I hope you answer without the waffle.

Where did I give any medical advice about the Coronavirus?

You still haven’t said.

Don’t worry, I know you can’t answer but will instead make posts about anything other than my question.  

I will happily answer eddie

It comes in part of a question to you

Would you expose your own daughter to this virus, or provide her with a potential vaccine?

Hence I already know the answer to many of your points

That's no answer and you know it. You still haven't answered the question and you probably won't, because you know eddie hasn't dispensed any medical advice about this virus.

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