CO2 levels at the highest level in Earth's history

by Andy Mon May 13, 2019 9:46 pm

First topic message reminder :

And yet there are still some dumb fuckers like Skunk Stenchbandit and Monkey brain who deny it.

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by Tommy Monk Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:48 pm

Well...?

Anybody care to explain how the giant sequoia trees have managed to evolve and exist and continue to exist today, in the west of USA, over millions and millions of years... given the fact that not only do they have a remarkable fire resistant ability, but also given the fact that this species of tree actually requires their local environment to regularly be hot enough for there to be a regular occurrence of wild fires, which is a fundamental requirement for the trees to continue to exist, as these wild fires are essential for the young sequoia seedlings to be able to survive and grow successfully...!!!???

It's all very well for some people today in western USA, to try saying that it's a bit warmer than they are used to... and that there are a few wildfires going on that they see as not being 'normal' etc...

They can even try to hold up some 'evidence' of how it's a lot warmer than 'normal'... by referring to the known historical set of temperature measurement data from that area, which goes back "since records began"
.. but unfortunately... this data is not only a bit unreliable for any real accuracy, as well as being thinner in number of any collectors/contributors of any of this data... but the biggest issue with any of this 'since records began' data, is the fact that it only goes back about 100-150 years anyway!!!

These giant sequoia trees can each live for up to 3000 years... and they have lived in the west of USA for millions and millions of years!!!

So... I think the giant sequoia trees are a better indicator of what the temperatures/weather/conditions should be expected to be as the real 'long term normal'...!

by Guest Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:05 pm

I already did explain and even sharkls have continued to exists for far longer than said trees. It shows they have been able to evolve through evolution

So what have you proved Tommy?

Why dont you answer why many specioes actually died out due to climate change?

If climate change was the factor that killed many species off and we are now causing that. Is that not cause for concern for you?

by Ben Reilly Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:08 pm

The trees' resilience has little to do with temperature, and certainly nothing to do with the sporadic heat of wildfires. They're an example of an incredibly resilient species, much like sharks.

by Tommy Monk Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:19 pm

But ben... the trees require wildfires for them to be successful in their reproductive cycle...!

If it wasnt normal for there to be temps hot enough for this... then firstly, they would not have existed for millions and millions of years there... and secondly, they would not have evolved in the way they have, that enables them to do so...!

by Ben Reilly Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:23 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:But ben... the trees require wildfires for them to be successful in their reproductive cycle...!

If it wasnt normal for there to be temps hot enough for this... then firstly, they would not have existed for millions and millions of years there... and secondly, they would not have evolved in the way they have, that enables them to do so...!

The heat from the fires has nothing to do with it. Wildfires kill low-lying brush and lay down a layer of fertile ash, which helps pretty much all tall trees.

There are many millions of other plant and animal species that are far less resilient than sequoias, and they're the ones threatened by global warming.

by nicko Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:57 pm

I'm threatened by Global Warming, I'm sweating my Balls off !

by Ben Reilly Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:58 pm

nicko wrote:I'm threatened by Global Warming, I'm sweating my Balls off !

You and me both, brother! It's worse indoors, outside wasn't too bad for this Texan.

by 'Wolfie Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:38 am

All of you people are simply imagining these heatwaves over there, don't you know...

Just ask Tommy, smelly' and Deano..

They will tell y'all that it's nothing more then a scam to make more $$billions$$ for Al Gore and his cronies ! It's really only a luvly 24°C outside -- at least in their imaginations..

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:41 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

All of you people are simply imagining these heatwaves over there, don't you know...

Just ask Tommy, smelly' and Deano..

They will tell y'all that it's nothing more then a scam to make more $$billions$$ for Al Gore and his cronies ! It's really only a luvly 24°C outside -- at least in their imaginations..

We've always had heatwaves in summer. This summer is cooler than last summer - last year the heatwave started in May and went on and on and on. Yesterday was very hot, but it's cooling down again now.

by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:46 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

All of you people are simply imagining these heatwaves over there, don't you know...

Just ask Tommy, smelly' and Deano..

They will tell y'all that it's nothing more then a scam to make more $$billions$$ for Al Gore and his cronies ! It's really only a luvly 24°C outside -- at least in their imaginations..

We've always had heatwaves in summer. This summer is cooler than last summer - last year the heatwave started in May and went on and on and on. Yesterday was very hot, but it's cooling down again now.

Eh?

Are you claiming this based on the Uk or globally?

by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:50 am

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/january-2019-was-australias-hottest-month-ever-recorded/news-story/fb87ee6a9840fc2d403776712a58905e

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/28/france-on-red-alert-as-heatwave-forecast-to-reach-record-45c

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48780685

I could go on Rags, but you cannot make a claim based on one country, when we are talking about global warming

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:00 am

I was replying to Wolfman's post.

All of you people are simply imagining these heatwaves over there, don't you know...

He was talking about the UK, so reply to him, not me.

by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:02 am

I have no need to reply to him and he is in fact factually correct. Your point as seen was poor. Learn to take criticism

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:05 am

phildidge wrote:I have no need to reply to him and he is in fact factually correct. Your point as seen was poor. Learn to take criticism

Learn when you're being a prat, and learn to reply to the correct person.

He's basically saying that the heatwaves here are some kind of indication of global warning, even though it was worse last year, and he's also taking the chance to have a pop at other posters, as usual.

Now go and pester someone else with your nonsense.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:09 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

All of you people are simply imagining these heatwaves over there, don't you know...

Just ask Tommy, smelly' and Deano..

They will tell y'all that it's nothing more then a scam to make more $$billions$$ for Al Gore and his cronies ! It's really only a luvly 24°C outside -- at least in their imaginations..

It's actually 23 degrees here - and I'm not imagining that. Cool

by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:13 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
phildidge wrote:I have no need to reply to him and he is in fact factually correct. Your point as seen was poor. Learn to take criticism

Learn when you're being a prat, and learn to reply to the correct person.

He's basically saying that the heatwaves here are some kind of indication of global warning, even though it was worse last year, and he's also taking the chance to have a pop at other posters, as usual.

Now go and pester someone else with your nonsense.

I am replying to the correct persomn who again cannot take criticism for her points

He is also correct about the heatwaves. Like i said, Europe is having the hottest heatwave on record. Its not just about sunny old England

So not going anywhere

Here i think you dropped this

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by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:17 am

phildidge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Learn when you're being a prat, and learn to reply to the correct person.

He's basically saying that the heatwaves here are some kind of indication of global warning, even though it was worse last year, and he's also taking the chance to have a pop at other posters, as usual.

Now go and pester someone else with your nonsense.

I am replying to the correct persomn who again cannot take criticism for her points

He is also correct about the heatwaves. Like i said, Europe is having the hottest heatwave on record. Its not just about sunny old England

So not going anywhere

Here i think you dropped this

There was nothing to criticise in my post - you're just trying to pick a fight. Well I shall stand my ground and hit you with my walking stick. Razz

You should tell Wolfie that he should have made it clear he was not just talking about the UK. It's not my fault if you can't read posts properly. You dropped a right clanger there.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:18 am

Perhaps we should all go and live in Camelot.

It's true! It's true! The crown has made it clear.
The climate must be perfect all the year.
A law was made a distant moon ago here:
July and August cannot be too hot.
And there's a legal limit to the snow here
In Camelot.
The winter is forbidden till December
And exits March the second on the dot.
By order, summer lingers through September
In Camelot.
Camelot! Camelot!
I know it sounds a bit bizarre,
But in Camelot, Camelot
That's how conditions are.
The rain may never fall till after sundown.
By eight, the morning fog must disappear.
In short, there's simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
In Camelot.

by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:20 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
phildidge wrote:

I am replying to the correct persomn who again cannot take criticism for her points

He is also correct about the heatwaves. Like i said, Europe is having the hottest heatwave on record. Its not just about sunny old England

So not going anywhere

Here i think you dropped this

There was nothing to criticise in my post - you're just trying to pick a fight. Well I shall stand my ground and hit you with my walking stick.

You should tell Wolfie that he should have made it clear he was not just talking about the UK. It's not my fault if you can't read posts properly. You dropped a right clanger there.

Seriously Rags, stop being so defensive. You have to understand people can be critical of points as you are doing to me now

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:24 am

phildidge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

There was nothing to criticise in my post - you're just trying to pick a fight. Well I shall stand my ground and hit you with my walking stick.

You should tell Wolfie that he should have made it clear he was not just talking about the UK. It's not my fault if you can't read posts properly. You dropped a right clanger there.

Seriously Rags, stop being so defensive. You have to understand people can be critical of points as you are doing to me now

Seriously Didge, stop being an arsehole. Razz

by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:25 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Seriously Rags, stop being so defensive. You have to understand people can be critical of points as you are doing to me now

Seriously Didge, stop being an arsehole.

Its my job though..... Laughing

by 'Wolfie Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:33 am

phildidge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

We've always had heatwaves in summer. This summer is cooler than last summer - last year the heatwave started in May and went on and on and on. Yesterday was very hot, but it's cooling down again now.

Eh?

Are you claiming this based on the Uk or globally?

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I've been mentioning "Europe's" heatwaves over recent days, not only England..

And a couple of days ago Paris had the hottest day recorded in Europe...

Poor ol' Raggamuffin, though, typically had her head parked so far up her backside, that she has totally missed what was happening just across the Channel, as well as in Spain and Portugal.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:35 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Eh?

Are you claiming this based on the Uk or globally?

I've been mentioning "Europe's" heatwaves over recent days, not only England..

And a couple of days ago Paris had the hottest day recorded in Europe...

Poor ol' Raggamuffin, though, typically had her head parked so far up her backside, that she has totally missed what was happening just across the Channel, as well as in Spain and Portugal.

You can stop being an arsehole as well. Razz

by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:47 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Eh?

Are you claiming this based on the Uk or globally?

I've been mentioning "Europe's" heatwaves over recent days, not only England..

And a couple of days ago Paris had the hottest day recorded in Europe...

Poor ol' Raggamuffin, though, typically had her head parked so far up her backside, that she has totally missed what was happening just across the Channel, as well as in Spain and Portugal.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:50 am

Didge and Wolfboy behaving like morons. Who could predict that?

lol!

by nicko Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:38 pm

Who gives a fuck what's happening across the English Channel, I'm British [English] Frogs, Krauts and Ities can go their own way, I don't care. [Joke people, before I'm banned] Laughing

by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:47 pm

nicko wrote:Who gives a fuck what's happening across the English Channel, I'm British [English] Frogs, Krauts and Ities can go their own way, I don't care. [Joke people, before I'm banned]

Well thank fuck my Irish grandad fought in the Battleaxe division and my maltese grandad fought fo the British on malta. Both never living in this country in oder that you had freedom eh Nicko? I mean fancy that,. wher foriegn people helped saved this country from being under the Nazi jackboot. Imagine people like them taking your stance now eh?

by Raggamuffin Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:30 pm

nicko wrote:Who gives a fuck what's happening across the English Channel, I'm British [English] Frogs, Krauts and Ities can go their own way, I don't care. [Joke people, before I'm banned]

Yes. They can keep their heatwaves. Laughing

by Tommy Monk Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:46 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:But ben... the trees require wildfires for them to be successful in their reproductive cycle...!

If it wasnt normal for there to be temps hot enough for this... then firstly, they would not have existed for millions and millions of years there... and secondly, they would not have evolved in the way they have, that enables them to do so...!

The heat from the fires has nothing to do with it. Wildfires kill low-lying brush and lay down a layer of fertile ash, which helps pretty much all tall trees.

There are many millions of other plant and animal species that are far less resilient than sequoias, and they're the ones threatened by global warming.

The trees are resilient to the heat from the fires... and the fires ensure the ground plant life is cleared which enables the sequoia seedlings to survive and grow into mature sequoia trees...

So... it must be the long term normal for that part of the USA to normally have these weather/climate conditions that are conducive to there being regular wildfires...!

by gelico Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:59 pm

As a kid we went to cornwall every single year, and it invariably rained for most of the time.

my dad wanted a guaranteed sunny holiday so one year when i was about 10 he decided we were all going camping in the south of france for a week then we would travel to italy for a few days before coming back.

during that so called sunny holiday, we did indeed have some sun but we also had torrential downpours, flash floods and all and the tent nearly floated away and everything got fucking soaked and it was the same in italy

my dad put the radio on one time on an english chanel to discover that britain had been sweltering in an intense heatwave while we were sitting in puddles of water

that was back in 1976

papa was not pleased

lol!

by gelico Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:03 pm

phildidge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Seriously Didge, stop being an arsehole.

Its my job though.....

green for making me laugh

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by nicko Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:15 pm

Didge,I said it was a joke,but you have to be an arse, as usual !

by eddie Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:36 pm

by Tommy Monk Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:51 pm

BPA is much more likely to be a cause of that, eddie...

by Lurker Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:55 pm

I think the world and everybody in it would be better off if the earth exploded and was destroyed. That would solve all problems.

by eddie Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:03 pm

Lurker wrote:I think the world and everybody in it would be better off if the earth exploded and was destroyed. That would solve all problems.

Bit extreme Lurker!

by Ben Reilly Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:27 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

BPA is much more likely to be a cause of that, eddie...

BPA causes erectile dysfunction, not homosexuality, and you have to be exposed to massive amounts of it -- most cases were men who worked in factories that used BPA, or in little boys who teethed on toys containing it.

by Tommy Monk Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:37 pm

BPA acts like oestrogen...

"...Estrogen is an important part of many transgenderwomen's transition process. While not everyone feels that they need to be on hormones (sometimes abbreviated to "mones"), takingestrogen and testosterone-blocking medications can helptransgender women create the body they want..."

"...Estrogens are the major sex hormones in women, and are responsible for the development and maintenance of feminine secondary sexual characteristics, such as breasts, wide hips, and a feminine pattern of fat distribution. ... They are mainly responsible for the suppression of testosterone levels in transgender women..."

So... what effect do you think that regular doses of BPA might be having on young male humans as they grow up...!?

by Ben Reilly Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:BPA acts like oestrogen...

"...Estrogen is an important part of many transgenderwomen's transition process. While not everyone feels that they need to be on hormones (sometimes abbreviated to "mones"), takingestrogen and testosterone-blocking medications can helptransgender women create the body they want..."

"...Estrogens are the major sex hormones in women, and are responsible for the development and maintenance of feminine secondary sexual characteristics, such as breasts, wide hips, and a feminine pattern of fat distribution. ... They are mainly responsible for the suppression of testosterone levels in transgender women..."

So... what effect do you think that regular doses of BPA might be having on young male humans as they grow up...!?

Very little, if anything. One, it's hard to find anybody who receives the sort of "regular" doses of BPA, in any amount significant enough to change them.

Two, most males seem to do just fine with the estrogen their own bodies make naturally.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:25 am

So... why have so many countries banned it in so many products...!?

And... your second point/claim... explain why you say 'most males', instead of 'all males'...?

And... explain why you think that the addition of all this extra estrogen mimicking BPA chemical into so many people, on top of their normal natural levels etc, is not going to have any adverse effects at all on any of the population...!?

Maybe you should research a bit on things, before you try posting about them...!?

by Ben Reilly Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:47 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

So... why have so many countries banned it in so many products...!?

And... your second point/claim... explain why you say 'most males', instead of 'all males'...?

And... explain why you think that the addition of all this extra estrogen mimicking BPA chemical into so many people, on top of their normal natural levels etc, is not going to have any adverse effects at all on any of the population...!?

Maybe you should research a bit on things, before you try posting about them...!?

I've researched this enough to know that suggesting BPA makes men gay is ridiculous, Tommy.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:48 am

Also... why do trans (male to female) take regular extra doses of estrogen, if this extra level of estrogen doesn't have any effect on them at all...!?

by Ben Reilly Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:59 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Also... why do trans (male to female) take regular extra doses of estrogen, if this extra level of estrogen doesn't have any effect on them at all...!?

Oh, come on. That's like comparing someone who occasionally gets a whiff of secondhand smoke to a two-pack-a-day smoker.

Why don't trans men just drink out of plastic bottles that contain BPA instead of shelling out for expensive hormone pills?

I swear, you show no common sense sometimes.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:09 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

So... why have so many countries banned it in so many products...!?

And... your second point/claim... explain why you say 'most males', instead of 'all males'...?

And... explain why you think that the addition of all this extra estrogen mimicking BPA chemical into so many people, on top of their normal natural levels etc, is not going to have any adverse effects at all on any of the population...!?

Maybe you should research a bit on things, before you try posting about them...!?

I've researched this enough to know that suggesting BPA makes men gay is ridiculous, Tommy.

You don't know that at all...!

You just don't want to believe that there is any cause/link to the massive rise in sexuality/gender confusion that has been going on since the exact same time when BPA (and a couple of other powerful chemicals) started to be massively introduced, wide spread, into the food chain of human consumption...!!!

What if you are wrong...?

Just like all the people who tried claiming that 'thalidomide' was nothing to do with babies being born without arms/legs...!?

by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:18 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Also... why do trans (male to female) take regular extra doses of estrogen, if this extra level of estrogen doesn't have any effect on them at all...!?

Oh, come on. That's like comparing someone who occasionally gets a whiff of secondhand smoke to a two-pack-a-day smoker.

Why don't trans men just drink out of plastic bottles that contain BPA instead of shelling out for expensive hormone pills?

I swear, you show no common sense sometimes.

Maybe... if they hadn't been exposed to BPA in the first place... they wouldn't be starting to be confused about their sexuality/gender... and wouldn't be seeking any additional artificial chemicals, to artificially try to be something other than they would normally/naturally be...!

by nicko Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:38 am

The "massive rise" in Gender confusion is caused by all the reports in the Media and "look at me"I'm different", that's my take on It !

by Guest Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:38 am

nicko wrote:The "massive rise" in Gender confusion is caused by all the reports in the Media and "look at me"I'm different", that's my take on It !

Correct nicko

Since being gay became boring and mundane, the attention seekers need a new fashion statement, transgender is the new gay

Unfortunately being gay requires nothing, being transgender requires irreversible life changing surgery.

The rise in transgenderism runs parallel with the rise in trannies coming out and saying "don't do it kids", this ticking time bomb will blow in about 20 years time when all these kids grow up and realise that "being trapped in the wrong body" is exactly what they have done to themselves and all those who cheered them on will be nowhere to be seen

by Ben Reilly Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:58 pm

You all act as though most gay people, and now transgender people, are just bandwagon jumpers. What an insult!

What about the people who live in countries where you can be killed for being gay or trans, and yet still try to live the life they want? Are they just trying to be "cool?"

by Lurker Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:14 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Starting a thread with a pair of drive-by, first-blood insults. Not a good way to foster a good debate!

You can'r debate FACTS. There is no counter opinion to a fact.

by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:34 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:You all act as though most gay people, and now transgender people, are just bandwagon jumpers. What an insult!

What about the people who live in countries where you can be killed for being gay or trans, and yet still try to live the life they want? Are they just trying to be "cool?"

It is a bandwagon, just a different one, the gay bandwagon is now a clapped out 1994 ford fiesta whereas the transgender bandwagon is the new audi Q8.

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