Support for EU membership 'at highest level since 1991 with most Brits wanting to stay in'
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Support for EU membership 'at highest level since 1991 with most Brits wanting to stay in'
Ukip’s recent clean-up at the European Elections, the swipes it seems to be making on the foundations of the Conservative Party and its clear populist style has, it appears, not made a dent in the level of support Britons have for EU membership.
In fact, new research by IpsosMori suggests that support for the European Union (EU) has grown and is at its highest since 1991, shattering perceptions that the UK is edging closer towards a swift exit from the single market.
The sample group had been asked which way they would vote should a referendum on EU membership be offered to them now. Fifty-six per cent said they would stay in the EU – up from 44 per cent in 2012.
Thirty-six per cent said they would ‘get out’ – down from 48 per cent in 2012, while eight per cent said they didn’t know which way they would sway.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/support-for-eu-membership-at-highest-level-since-1991-with-most-brits-wanting-to-stay-in-9811096.html
In fact, new research by IpsosMori suggests that support for the European Union (EU) has grown and is at its highest since 1991, shattering perceptions that the UK is edging closer towards a swift exit from the single market.
The sample group had been asked which way they would vote should a referendum on EU membership be offered to them now. Fifty-six per cent said they would stay in the EU – up from 44 per cent in 2012.
Thirty-six per cent said they would ‘get out’ – down from 48 per cent in 2012, while eight per cent said they didn’t know which way they would sway.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/support-for-eu-membership-at-highest-level-since-1991-with-most-brits-wanting-to-stay-in-9811096.html
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David Cameron's feud with Brussels escalated today as incoming European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker told one of his team to "promote freedom of movement".
His message, coming from a man whose appointment No 10 fiercely opposed, will be a bitter blow for Cameron, who has hinted at wanting to change the rules surrounding the principle of European free movement to curb migration.
At least Cameron can count on the public's support in his fight, or can he? A poll by ComRes for the Independent on Sunday over the weekend found that most Brits (52%) want to be free to live and work "anywhere in the European Union".
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However, we aren't quite so warm about letting our fellow Europeans have the same right to live and work in Britain, with barely one in three (36%) supporting it, compared to the 46% who hated the idea.
The contradiction runs deeper, as voters get in a muddle over the implications of European free movement.
Ukip voters are not so sure how to react. A whopping majority (75%) disagree with letting other Europeans live and work in Britain, while 41% of them disagree with Britons having the right to do the same in the EU. Just to make things even clearer, a similar amount of Ukip supporters (37%) agree with Britons being able to live and work "anywhere" in the European Union.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/22/eu-migration-confused-poll-free-movement_n_6026550.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
His message, coming from a man whose appointment No 10 fiercely opposed, will be a bitter blow for Cameron, who has hinted at wanting to change the rules surrounding the principle of European free movement to curb migration.
At least Cameron can count on the public's support in his fight, or can he? A poll by ComRes for the Independent on Sunday over the weekend found that most Brits (52%) want to be free to live and work "anywhere in the European Union".
comres
However, we aren't quite so warm about letting our fellow Europeans have the same right to live and work in Britain, with barely one in three (36%) supporting it, compared to the 46% who hated the idea.
The contradiction runs deeper, as voters get in a muddle over the implications of European free movement.
Ukip voters are not so sure how to react. A whopping majority (75%) disagree with letting other Europeans live and work in Britain, while 41% of them disagree with Britons having the right to do the same in the EU. Just to make things even clearer, a similar amount of Ukip supporters (37%) agree with Britons being able to live and work "anywhere" in the European Union.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/22/eu-migration-confused-poll-free-movement_n_6026550.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
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Re: Support for EU membership 'at highest level since 1991 with most Brits wanting to stay in'
The opinions on free movement are nothing short of hypocrisy if people want it one way but not the other.
As for any possible rise in support for the EU- could it be the Farage factor? Sure he draws a lot of red faced loons and has gained support but his party is still a minor player- yet the polarising effect of UKIPs anti-EU stance may have lee be to consider the EU more carefully, and at least if a man like Farage opposes it, then it may be something they should support? A possibility I think.
As for any possible rise in support for the EU- could it be the Farage factor? Sure he draws a lot of red faced loons and has gained support but his party is still a minor player- yet the polarising effect of UKIPs anti-EU stance may have lee be to consider the EU more carefully, and at least if a man like Farage opposes it, then it may be something they should support? A possibility I think.
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Brasidas wrote:Ukip’s recent clean-up at the European Elections, the swipes it seems to be making on the foundations of the Conservative Party and its clear populist style has, it appears, not made a dent in the level of support Britons have for EU membership.
In fact, new research by IpsosMori suggests that support for the European Union (EU) has grown and is at its highest since 1991, shattering perceptions that the UK is edging closer towards a swift exit from the single market.
The sample group had been asked which way they would vote should a referendum on EU membership be offered to them now. Fifty-six per cent said they would stay in the EU – up from 44 per cent in 2012.
Thirty-six per cent said they would ‘get out’ – down from 48 per cent in 2012, while eight per cent said they didn’t know which way they would sway.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/support-for-eu-membership-at-highest-level-since-1991-with-most-brits-wanting-to-stay-in-9811096.html
And once the debate starts in earnest prior to a referendum vote that support would go even higher when the business leaders warn of the dire consequences should we leave.
We won't be leaving the EU and Cameron knows it.
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Re: Support for EU membership 'at highest level since 1991 with most Brits wanting to stay in'
What a load of bollocks!!!
The EU is the problem, not the solution.
The thing with free movement is that It is all one way traffic, millions turning up here and nothing we can do about it while in EU.
And it's supposed to be about labour, not opening up our benefits system or our NHS or council housing to be rinsed out.
You obviously don't want to listen to what this has to say.....
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/uk-britain-immigration-survey-idUKBREA0600F20140107
But while we remain in EU we have NO CONTROL on immigration numbers
This is a NON NEGOTIABLE part of EU membership.
The only way to regain control and restore common sense is to leave the EU.
Labour = pro EU
Lib dense = pro EU
Tory = some anti EU MP's but overwhelmingly pro EU.
TTIP is another reason why we need to leave EU.
The EU is the problem, not the solution.
The thing with free movement is that It is all one way traffic, millions turning up here and nothing we can do about it while in EU.
And it's supposed to be about labour, not opening up our benefits system or our NHS or council housing to be rinsed out.
You obviously don't want to listen to what this has to say.....
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/uk-britain-immigration-survey-idUKBREA0600F20140107
But while we remain in EU we have NO CONTROL on immigration numbers
This is a NON NEGOTIABLE part of EU membership.
The only way to regain control and restore common sense is to leave the EU.
Labour = pro EU
Lib dense = pro EU
Tory = some anti EU MP's but overwhelmingly pro EU.
TTIP is another reason why we need to leave EU.
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Re: Support for EU membership 'at highest level since 1991 with most Brits wanting to stay in'
Now that the eu has said there will be no queston of changing the rules for Britain on "free movement" Cameron should have no hesitation on calling the referendum NOW.
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Quite right Nicko.... I wonder why he doesn't....!?
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Eilzel wrote:The opinions on free movement are nothing short of hypocrisy if people want it one way but not the other.
As for any possible rise in support for the EU- could it be the Farage factor? Sure he draws a lot of red faced loons and has gained support but his party is still a minor player- yet the polarising effect of UKIPs anti-EU stance may have lee be to consider the EU more carefully, and at least if a man like Farage opposes it, then it may be something they should support? A possibility I think.
Exactly and it shows how hypocritical people are they want everything their own way, thus without the ability to compromise.
In a way I hope these selfish idiots get their way, we leave the EU and then they will see what a disaster it will be, within a few years mass unemployment followed by mass civil unrest.
Only then will they wake up to how easily led on prejudiced view points.
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Waffle dodge, staying in the current situation is more likely to lead to those things.
THe EU project is a busted flush and needs disbanding.
What is so wrong with controls on immigration and visas or work permits being issued by host nations when labour is needed?
As used to be the case and worked very well!
THe EU project is a busted flush and needs disbanding.
What is so wrong with controls on immigration and visas or work permits being issued by host nations when labour is needed?
As used to be the case and worked very well!
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Re: Support for EU membership 'at highest level since 1991 with most Brits wanting to stay in'
No, most people will end up voting to stay in, because it is in our interest to do so and then you will then sulk for another few decades.
We do have controls on immigration outside the EU, and the door swings both ways within the EU.
I mean how really does this affect you?
That your only real" reason is because you are unabl, for some strange reason, as millions of others can, get along with people who speak in a different language to you, but are human like you.
Your argument is based on you thinking that being born on a land gives you the right to deny others living on a land, you yourself benefited off nothing you did, but what generations of people did before you, giving you no right or claim to go off what they have done. The wealth of this nation came off plundering other nations, of which you then wish to deny people today coming here from these nations.
Selfish, of which I will state again, none of us teach such methodology to our own children.
We do have controls on immigration outside the EU, and the door swings both ways within the EU.
I mean how really does this affect you?
That your only real" reason is because you are unabl, for some strange reason, as millions of others can, get along with people who speak in a different language to you, but are human like you.
Your argument is based on you thinking that being born on a land gives you the right to deny others living on a land, you yourself benefited off nothing you did, but what generations of people did before you, giving you no right or claim to go off what they have done. The wealth of this nation came off plundering other nations, of which you then wish to deny people today coming here from these nations.
Selfish, of which I will state again, none of us teach such methodology to our own children.
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We have lax controls on outside EU and complete open door on in EU.
It drives up cost of living and drives down wages with multiple other negative economic consequences both here and in the countries seeing their people leaving.
It is a failed project.
It has taken our sovereignty and our powers.
Free movement is non negotiable, the only way is out.
It drives up cost of living and drives down wages with multiple other negative economic consequences both here and in the countries seeing their people leaving.
It is a failed project.
It has taken our sovereignty and our powers.
Free movement is non negotiable, the only way is out.
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nicko wrote:Now that the eu has said there will be no queston of changing the rules for Britain on "free movement" Cameron should have no hesitation on calling the referendum NOW.
I agree. Have the referendum as quickly as possible and put this to bed once and for all.
I very much doubt we will be leaving any time soon.
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Only because we will still be denied a referendum for as long as possible.....
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Re: Support for EU membership 'at highest level since 1991 with most Brits wanting to stay in'
Nobody ever leaves the UK? That doesn't sound right; it can't really be a one-way street.
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Most people who leave UK are wealthy retirees going to Spain or south France etc.
Not a burden on countries, not taking jobs and ploughing money in.
This has happened since before EU free movement.
Look at the figures.
When Poland was allowed into free movement we were told it would only be a few thousand coming, it was hundreds of thousands.
Since 2004 Poland unemployment rate has halved from about 20% to 10% while our youth unemployment has more than doubled to over 20% and black youth even higher.
Mostly younger people come in huge numbers with children needing school places at cost of around £5000-6000 a year per child per place, plus taking council housing then getting child benefits and paid tax credits etc.
They may be working but costing a hell of a lot more than they're putting in And displacing other UK citizens who would have got the jobs and we then have to pay them unemployment benefits too.
It is only a very very tiny number of people from here who go to any of these other countries to work and could have done anyway with the visa and work permit system previously.
And we could have still had some people coming here with the same visa permit system, and then had control over numbers depending on needs, not the flood of people as we have seen and that has had so much negative impact and extra costs.
Not a burden on countries, not taking jobs and ploughing money in.
This has happened since before EU free movement.
Look at the figures.
When Poland was allowed into free movement we were told it would only be a few thousand coming, it was hundreds of thousands.
Since 2004 Poland unemployment rate has halved from about 20% to 10% while our youth unemployment has more than doubled to over 20% and black youth even higher.
Mostly younger people come in huge numbers with children needing school places at cost of around £5000-6000 a year per child per place, plus taking council housing then getting child benefits and paid tax credits etc.
They may be working but costing a hell of a lot more than they're putting in And displacing other UK citizens who would have got the jobs and we then have to pay them unemployment benefits too.
It is only a very very tiny number of people from here who go to any of these other countries to work and could have done anyway with the visa and work permit system previously.
And we could have still had some people coming here with the same visa permit system, and then had control over numbers depending on needs, not the flood of people as we have seen and that has had so much negative impact and extra costs.
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