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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:08 pm

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Empty shelves.

BBC News - No-deal Brexit 'to leave shelves empty' warn retailers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47028748
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Post by Vintage Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:40 pm

The EU didn't listen to anything Cameron said, the EU's position is one size fits all, so shut up and pay up, what makes you think a joint party would have made a difference, the only time a joint party position may make a difference is negotiating our exit by showing a united front at home in the face of the EU 'negotiators', once the vote was decided.

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Post by Andy Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:29 am

One in three UK firms plan for no-deal Brexit relocation, IoD says

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/01/one-three-uk-firms-activate-plans-move-operations-abroad-no-deal-brexit-iod-survey?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:36 pm

Load of bullshit!!!


There are approx 5.5 million companies here in UK... and 95% of them don't even do any trade with the eu!!!


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Post by Andy Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:53 pm

So in Adolf Monk's weird fascist world, the Guardian, th Express, Telegraph, Mirror, Sky, BBC are all purveyors of fake news and bullshit.
But we all now know that Hitler Tom is so far to the right, everyone else is left of him .
I know who sensible people believe, and it ain't the fascist spunkmonkey.
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Post by Andy Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:10 pm

And the Evening Standard agrees.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-latest-third-of-british-firms-could-be-forced-to-move-abroad-due-to-eu-exit-study-shows-a4054811.html
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:23 pm

Why would a third of 5.5 million companies need to move abroad...!?

When 95% of them don't even do any trade with the eu...!?


You see Andy... this is the type of project fear bullshit you buy into so gullibly...!


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Post by nicko Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:42 pm

"FORCED" at the point of a gun ? Pathetic !
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:45 pm

Maybe Andy will believe this guardian article on how many uk businesses actually do any trade with the EU...!?


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/14/eurosceptic-business-group-seeks-exemption-from-eu-rules-for-british-companies



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Post by Andy Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:56 pm

Yoj stupid dolt. That is nearly 5 years old.
My next door neighbours Downs syndrome child speaks with more sense than you do.
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:09 pm

Andy wrote:Yoj stupid dolt. That is nearly 5 years old.
My next door neighbours Downs syndrome child speaks with more sense than you do.


That article may be 5 years old but the facts & figures are still the same you idiot!!!



But don't take my word for it... do a bit of research yourself and you will easily find plenty of recent reports that confirm what I say!!!




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Post by Andy Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:14 pm

Although some things never change.
Like the Daily Fail's support for fascism.
Although Dacre is apparently livid with Geordie Grieg's reversal of his editorialship.
A matter of chance

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2005/apr/23/featuresreviews.guardianreview5?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:54 am

This will add to the rubbish Tommy spews out.

No Deal Brexit ‘could see millions of tonnes of waste pile up’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/8336137/no-deal-brexit-rubbish-pile-up/
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:40 am

Leave.EU fined £60,000.
http://news.sky.com/story/leave-campaign-and-arron-banks-firm-elson-insurance-fined-for-illegal-marketing-11624617


Wanks Banks can afford it, but it still must hurt him.
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:01 pm

The Conservatives want a return to Victorian Britain.
It seems they are getting what they want.
Diseases such as gout, scarlet fever and whooping cough returning.
One way of getting rid of poverty.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/02/dickensian-diseases-gout-whooping-cough-and-scarlet-fever-on-rise?CMP=share_btn_fb
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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:19 pm

Project fear is getting ever more hysterical as we get nearer to leaving day!!!


lol!...
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:19 pm

Well , I hope YOU get scarlet fever, your and whooping cough Monkey.
Then hope you rot in pain.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:21 pm

Immigration is bringing in disease...

My cousin is actually in hospital at the moment in isolation with TB you scum bag!!!


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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:51 pm

more leftwing crap...

gout is a dietary problem and the diet needs to be RICH i.e expensive
both whooping cough and scarlet fever are immuniseable against, the fact the immunisation rates have fallen is down to gullible conspiracy theory loving lefty loons.

in the case of scarlet fever there may be a link to poorer diets, but how much of that is due to idle useless parents who cant/wont cook , but instead feed their endless offspring on a diet olf macD's and kfc, rathert than actually go buy proper food and cook it (which obvious alternative is invariably cheaper than the idle fast food.) Also howmany of thgese kids who have a poor diet belong to parents that have huge mobile and data bills (spending untold hours on social media) with the absolutely best and newest Iphone whatever, a mile wide flat screen telly with the full sky package including ALL the sports channels etc etc etc.
untill you remove those avoidable social causes you cannot point a finger at anything else.

Also given that scarlet fever is caused by EXACTLY the same bacterium (streptococcus pyogenes) as a sore throat (i.e scarlet fever is a sore throat on steroids), how much of it is caused by bacterial antibiotic resistance......IF you have a sore throat caused by strep pyogenes there is a better than 60% chance of it developing into scarlet fever without effective antibiotic treatment...EVEN IF you have a good diet and are otherwise in good health. which is why if you have a suspected strep throat your doctor will always take a swab and send it for test.(BTW a strep sore throat is EASY to diagnose, often all that is needed to have a good suspicion of it being present is a quick look down your throat, you know ...the lolly stick and say arrrgggghhhhh
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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:57 pm

Andy wrote:Well , I hope YOU get scarlet fever, your and whooping cough Monkey.
Then hope you rot in pain.

Once again you cross the line  this is another warning for you .
continue as you are and I will ban you

not for you political opinion as you keep crying but for posts like thos and the endless baiting and unnecessary insults thrown at other posters in the brexit woes thread, where you have thrown insults with the intent of raising a shit storm in almost every other post.

I have warned you time and time again about this and you FAIL modify your behavior.  your OPINIONS on political matters etc are welcome, and like everyone else are open to challenge....your foul attitude to other posters who dare disagree with you is NOT....

FINAL WARNING.......I WILL ban you if you continue.
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:37 pm

Yawn.
Even the Times admits Whitehall cannot deal with a no deal Brexit.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexti-whitehall-won-t-cope-with-no-deal-w8f2tf9pq

Why is it no deal, hard line Brexiteers are just soooo dumb?


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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:38 pm

your choice
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:42 pm

I shall bombard this site relentlessly with anti Brexit stories with renewed vigour..
None can be countered with fact and evidence.
Because there IS NONE.
Everything people say about what WILL happen post Brexit is pure speculation.
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:46 pm

Brexiteers are paid for by criminals.

http://news.sky.com/story/leave-campaign-and-arron-banks-firm-elson-insurance-fined-for-illegal-marketing-11624617
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:49 pm

More stories of companies moving abroad.

Brexit shows workers need better employment protection as jobs relocated abroad

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-shows-workers-need-better-13939024#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:50 pm

Andy wrote:I shall bombard this site relentlessly with anti Brexit stories with renewed vigour..
None can be countered with fact and evidence.
Because there IS NONE.
Everything people say about what WILL happen post Brexit is pure speculation.
including the post brexit Armageddon you propose........

you can bombard it with as many anti brexit stories as you like......and you will accept that they will be challenged

BUT you may NOT continue with the gratuitous insults and rants against other posters personally, and you most certainly will NOT post another post like the one I quoted
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:54 pm

May is targeting Labour seats with even more punishment.
May’s bribe won’t stop Brexit inflicting more pain on Labour's heartlands

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Post by Syl Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:57 pm

Andy wrote:Well , I hope YOU get scarlet fever, your and whooping cough Monkey.
Then hope you rot in pain.

Are you not taking this just a little bit too far Andy? Rolling Eyes

I voted Brexit, and if there was to be another vote I would do the same again.
Scaremongering doesn't really work does it. Wink
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:00 pm

We have a mod with a permanent scowl
Who can only offer a growl
Because I am right
When I post day and night
about Brexit, which makes the whole country howl.
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Post by Syl Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:02 pm

Andy wrote:We have a mod with a permanent scowl
Who can only offer a growl
Because I am right
When I post day and night
about Brexit, which makes the whole country howl.

Not the whole country Andy, just the ones who lost the vote. Wink
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:06 pm

Syl wrote:
Andy wrote:Well , I hope YOU get scarlet fever, your and whooping cough Monkey.
Then hope you rot in pain.

Are you not taking this just a little bit too far Andy? Rolling Eyes

I voted Brexit, and if there was to be another vote I would do the same again.
Scaremongering doesn't really work does it. Wink

It. might have been a tad ott, I apologise to Tommy.
BUT, one questions WHY the secretive ERG group, Farage and Aaron Banks are SO busy hiding the sources of their money ?
They are being investigated by the serious crime agency, have been fined heavily already, yet STILL there are dumb asses who blindly support support them, without any care to the damage Brexit will cause.
Perhaps ballot papers should be followed up so that only Brexiteers have to foot the bill.
But it will be the poorest in society who do.
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:08 pm

Syl wrote:
Andy wrote:We have a mod with a permanent scowl
Who can only offer a growl
Because I am right
When I post day and night
about Brexit, which makes the whole country howl.

Not the whole country Andy, just the ones who lost the vote. Wink
Everyone thinks May has fucked up.
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Post by Syl Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:17 pm

Andy wrote:
Syl wrote:

Not the whole country Andy, just the ones who lost the vote. Wink
Everyone thinks May has fucked up.

Just maybe if people had supported her from the off instead of stabbing her in the back trying to further their own careers the negotiations would have gone better?
The EU has taken advantage of the utter bloody chaos ….dont you think if people had accepted the democratic vote and pulled together from the start 2 years ago we would have been in a far better position to negotiate?
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:32 pm

It can hardly be called a democratic vote when Putin, Aaron Banks , Change.EU.org and people like Farage ILLEGALLY FUNDED a morally corrupt leave campaign.
Their sins are coming to haunt them.
As I showed, they have already been fined massively, and criminal investigations are continuing.
Will you still support them if they are convicted and imprisoned?


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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:34 pm

no, not that I ever did...but I WILL support brexit, even if it has to be a "hard brexit"
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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:36 pm



The British people had already decided long before any campaign had even started...
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Post by Syl Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:56 pm

Andy wrote:It can hard be called a democratic vote when Putin, Aaron Banks , Change.EU.org and people like Farage ILLEGALLY FUNDED a morally corrupt leave campaign.
Their sins are coming to haunt them.
As I showed, they have already been fined massively, and criminal.investigations are continuing.
Will you still support them if they convicted and imprisoned?

I never supported them in the first place.
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:02 pm

Funny how Brexiteers are distancing themselves from Banks, Farage,Change etc.
They are in trouble.
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:19 pm

And just now Nissan have pulled building the XTrail in the. UK, blaming Brexit.
Still the clowns defends it.
http://news.sky.com/story/nissan-casts-further-gloom-on-car-industry-with-x-trail-blow-11625885
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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:04 pm

not of course that these companies havnt been "got at" by the EU collective.....

they will return....IF of course we let em......

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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:34 pm

The only response is blather, rhetoric and bluster in the face of hard evidence from the CBI ,  the banks, Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury's,Aldi, Lidl,Morrisons, Nissan,Ford, Sky News, Channel 4, The Guardian, BBC, The Mirror,Times, even the Telegraph.
Wake up and smell the coffee, at least whilst we can still import it.
Hard Brexit is going to do untold harm and damage to Britain.
Farage is ok, he bought dual German nationality. He will fuck off to Germany.
Mogg will survive, he has transferred most of his company and its funds to Dublin and will pay his taxes in Eire.
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Post by nicko Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:40 pm

Your Spamming Andy, read the rules !
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:42 pm

I am presenting HARD EVIDENCE of Brexit woe. Ask Ben.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-scm-ireland-investment-fund-conservative-mp-a8461021.html

Calling it spamming is a clear sign you have lost the debate and can offer no counter argument.
I am staying on topic.
I am showing differing causes and effects and am using a variety of credible and authentic verifiable sources.

How on earth is that spamming?
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Post by nicko Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:47 pm

Continually posting on one subject is Spamming, is this in the rules or is it not ?
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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:48 pm

I'm going to change Andys user name

to Cassandra (like in "Up Pompeii)

FFS worse than the ides of march

"Oh woe, woe is me"


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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:54 pm

nicko wrote:Continually posting on one subject is Spamming,   is this in the rules or is it not ?
It is Nicko...BUT...its best to let him have a "speshul" thread all to himself...keeps him out of everyone else's hair elsewhere.
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:00 pm

Just checked the rules. It isn't mentioned.
And it not for your little Rottweiler Nicko to decide what is or isn't spamming.
Get a ruling from the site owner, Ben His forum , his rules.
If you don't, I shall.
This is no different from the Trump vent thread.
Lurker keeps strictly on course, and Ben is very happy with that.
Apart from an infraction against Tom, for which I apologised, I have presented a wide variety of thread related material , all of which comes from reputable and credible sources.
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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:17 pm

yup, you are right andy...the trump thread is lurkers "speshul" thread.....


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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:18 pm

nicko wrote:Continually posting on one subject is Spamming,   is this in the rules or is it not ?
No it's not against the rules..
Go check them..
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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:21 pm

spamming in a single thread, I.e spamming your own thread is perfectly allowable.....
what is not allowed would be spamming the same garbage over multiple thread, and would be dealt with under site disruption.....
the thinking is that posters have the ability to ignore a single thread they dont like.....
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Post by Andy Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:27 pm

Lord Foul wrote:spamming in a single thread, I.e spamming your own thread is perfectly allowable.....
what is not allowed would be spamming the same garbage over multiple thread, and would be dealt with under site disruption.....
the thinking is that posters have the ability to ignore a single thread they dont like.....
I know the rules.
I read them, fully understood them and have complied with them.
So why threaten a ban for posting strictly within the rules?
Shirley you have better things to do?
Like stockpile food, car spares and medicines for post Brexit shortages.

From the pro hard Brexit Express.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/997931/Brexit-news-latest-prepping-what-to-stockpile-no-deal-brexit-food-shortage.


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