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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:08 pm

Empty shelves.

BBC News - No-deal Brexit 'to leave shelves empty' warn retailers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47028748
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:10 pm

9000 jobs to go at Tesco.

http://news.sky.com/story/tesco-says-9000-jobs-will-be-hit-in-restructure-11620476
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:12 pm

Fruit and veg to cost more.

https://mol.im/a/6640401
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:13 pm

Intelligence predicts violence on the streets.

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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:14 pm

And before the idiots belittle these links, the Mail is very pro Brexit.
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Post by Vintage Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:46 pm

Why, the goods we are trading are the same goods we were trading yesterday today and tomorrow, coming from the same countries to here and from here to the same countries as before, ok there'll be tariffs but we don't actually pay anything at the port of origin or receipt, it can't be like a toll bridge or nothing would ever move.
The EU has three possibilities, let us leave on good terms and continue to trade more or less as we are with tariffs if needs be spoil everyone's day and mess everything up, in order to punish the UK  and put off anyone else who wants to leave, or it can take a long hard look at itself and reform.
After all if its all so marvellous why would anyone else want to leave, it could afford to be magnanimous, they know things aren't right so its the punishment way hoping it'll con everyone else in the EU.

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Post by nicko Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:06 pm

I wonder what the EU Farmers will do when they find they can't sell their food, or move it to us, will it rot in the fields ?Same with any manufactured goods , if it can't be sent here what will they do with it ?
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Post by eddie Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:32 pm

Oh well. I’m sure we’ll find a way to cope.
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:55 pm

eddie wrote:Oh well. I’m sure we’ll find a way to cope.
you can retire to America if Britain becomes too hostile.
Then you can endure Trump.
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:56 pm

UK cannot trade on WTO terms.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/27/uk-cannot-simply-trade-on-wto-terms-after-no-deal-brexit-say-experts
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:07 pm

Wafffle!
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:53 pm

It's a pity the forum retard cannot counter the worrying reports from such a wide variety of reputable sources such as the BBC, Sky News, The Independant, the Guardian, the Mirror, The Express and the Mail.
Being a docile drone, he won't recognise that many of the sources are actually PRO Brexit, but feel obliged to report the cons of Brexit as they are starting to become a disaster and are already impacting on profits and jobs.

Tell "Who cares" to the 9000 minimum wage Tesco workers who will soon lose their jobs.
I don't suppose they will be the last.
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Warnings from Morrisons, Tesco, Sainsburys, M&S, ASDA, Waitrose KFC, MacD's are just the start. Prepare for a deluge if the worst case, a no deal, hard Brexit shoild occur.
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Post by eddie Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:35 pm

Andy wrote:
eddie wrote:Oh well. I’m sure we’ll find a way to cope.
you can retire to America if Britain becomes too hostile.
Then you can endure Trump.

I’m an easygoing, forgiving person....but even I cannot endure Trump. No
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:41 pm

Andy... stop misrepresenting the facts... some supermarkets aren't doing as well because others like Lidl and Aldi are doing better and taking an increasing slice of the market...!


It's nothing to do with us leaving the EU!!!


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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:44 pm

eddie wrote:
Andy wrote:
you can retire to America if Britain becomes too hostile.
Then you can endure Trump.

I’m an easygoing, forgiving person....but even I cannot endure Trump. No
As Quill and Lurker keep telling us, the noose is tightening. He has few allies left who he can trust or depend on.
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:47 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Andy... stop misrepresenting the facts... some supermarkets aren't doing as well because others like Lidl and Aldi are doing better and taking an increasing slice of the market...!


It's nothing to do with us leaving the EU!!!



Dumb schmuck.  Lidl are also warning of food shortages.

https://mol.im/a/6640401

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Post by eddie Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:47 pm

Andy wrote:
eddie wrote:
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you can retire to America if Britain becomes too hostile.
Then you can endure Trump.

I’m an easygoing, forgiving person....but even I cannot endure Trump. No
As Quill and Lurker keep telling us, the noose is tightening. He has few allies left who he can trust or depend on.

Good. Let’s hope it’s not all hot air or that his richer and more powerful friends don’t pull strings to keep him there.
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:49 pm

That includes Farage.
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Post by eddie Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:55 pm

Andy wrote:That includes Farage.

Isn’t he kinda washed up and finished now?
I am going to vote Green in the next election. There’s no other party I am prepared to stand with.
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:59 pm

It rather depends on whether he carries out his threat of another, pro Brexit party in lieu of UKIP.

It will be just another small pressure group.
If he does , he will fail. His record will read, played 8 lost 8.Very non league!
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:23 am

Andy wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Andy... stop misrepresenting the facts... some supermarkets aren't doing as well because others like Lidl and Aldi are doing better and taking an increasing slice of the market...!


It's nothing to do with us leaving the EU!!!



Dumb schmuck.  Lidl are also warning of food shortages.

https://mol.im/a/6640401

Tommy clearly has that serious European animal illness - Foot in mouth.



What has that got to do with Tesco announcement of job cuts...!!!???


When we haven't even left the EU yet...!!!???


Just more lies and spin from run away Andy...!!!


Who can't explain why it is that although 70% of Labour MPs represent constituencies who voted to leave the EU... that majority of them are going against the democratic will of their electorate in trying to stop the UK leaving the EU...!!!???


And are instead in support of staying in a corrupt fascist dictatorship that is only interested in riding the gravy train and looking after the interests of a few big businesses...!!!???


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Post by Andy Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:49 am

Check out @TomBoadle’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/TomBoadle/status/1089879657871278082?s=09
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:19 pm

Yawn...
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Post by Andy Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:40 pm

Can't take the heat of debate, retard, can you.?Go back to your care in the community home.
Brexiteers have fucked up , big time. And you cannot admit to it.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:46 pm

It's you who can't handle democracy...!


The British people voted to leave the EU... 80% of voters voted for partys who had the manifesto promise to carry out the democratic decision of the referendum to leave the eu... the MPs in parliament voted for article 50 to be declared... and it is law that we leave on the 29th of March either with a deal on trade tariffs or on WTO trade tariff terms... and on top of that, 70% of Labour MPs in parliament represent constituencies who voted to leave the EU too!!!




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Post by Andy Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:08 pm

The Conservative Mps have fucked up the negotiations.
Labour are opposing the Government.
That is what opposition parties do.
The clue is in the name.
Don't like it, tough shit.
Become an MP.
But be advised, Britain First are a proscribed group.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:31 pm

The remainers have tried to frustrate brexit at every turn... and it is the EU who have tried to force us into a bad deal... but the law is clear that if we can't agree a mutually beneficial deal on leaving the EU on trade tariffs then we leave on WTO terms...


Its quite simple!!!


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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:38 pm



One less lying treacherous Labour MP going to be voting in the brexit debate today...


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/disgraced-labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-sentenced-for-lying-to-police-to-avoid-speeding-ticket-a4051306.html


lol! lol! lol!

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Post by Andy Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:26 pm

Yawn.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:36 pm



You can't handle the truth and you can't accept democracy!!!


lol!
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Post by Vintage Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:55 pm

At last, some gumption from the government - no deal for UK NO £39million for the EU.

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Post by Andy Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:03 pm

You wouldn't know the truth if it punched you in the face.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:23 pm

Andy wrote:You wouldn't know the truth if it punched you in the face.


It's you who keeps getting hit hard with the truth... but you're mind is so fuzzled that you just can't see it!!!


lol!
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Post by nicko Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:23 pm

Why are they so keen to keep us in ?

Because they want our money DICKHEAD !
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:27 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The remainers have tried to frustrate brexit at every turn... and it is the EU who have tried to force us into a bad deal... but the law is clear that if we can't agree a mutually beneficial deal on leaving the EU on trade tariffs then we leave on WTO terms...


Its quite simple!!!




And that is the EUs own rules around article 50!!!


2 years to try to negotiate a mutually beneficial and agreeable arrangement on our future trading tariff terms... and after 2 years if nothing is agreed then we leave without a deal and trade under WTO tariff terms!!!


This is the EUs own rules!!!
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:31 pm

eddie wrote:I am going to vote Green in the next election. There’s no other party I am prepared to stand with.

Your vote should include a proper estimate as to how effective it will be collectively. If you are going to throw your vote away (ie, green party), do the most logical thing...vote for yourself instead.

When you vote for a candidate, you are giving your political self-determination away. If you are just going to piss it onto the ground, don't give it away.

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Post by Vintage Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:27 pm

If I don't like any of the candidates views and don't wish to vote for any of them, I write 'none of the above' on the ballot paper and cross it through to make sure it will be counted as a spoilt ballot and included in the official figures.

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Post by Andy Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:38 pm

Barclays shift £160 Bn to Dublin.
Expect the others to follow.

Barclays to shift £160bn of assets due to Brexit

http://www.cityam.com/272485/barclays-gets-go-ahead-shift-160bn-assets-dublin-amid

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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:35 am

Andy wrote:Barclays shift £160 Bn to Dublin.
Expect the others to follow.

Barclays to shift £160bn of assets due to Brexit

http://www.cityam.com/272485/barclays-gets-go-ahead-shift-160bn-assets-dublin-amid

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Post by Andy Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:44 am

UK car industry now on red alert.
http://news.sky.com/story/uk-car-industry-sounds-red-alert-over-no-deal-brexit-damage-11622561

Meanwhile , Nero Monk fiddles whilst Rome burns.
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Post by Andy Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:51 am

British Chamber of Commerce warns we have only seen the tip.of the iceberg.

All the major companies leaving the UK to avoid chaos of Brexit

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-major-companies-leaving-uk-13902285#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare
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Post by nicko Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:08 am

Anybody would think you wanted to remain Andy !
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Post by Andy Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:56 am

Well, Nicko, when I cast my vote, ,I was 55/45 to remain. Simply because I didn't know enough about what leaving would REALLY mean, and the impact and effect Brexit would have on everyday people, jobs, big and small businesses, the banks, the NHS,farmers,fishermen, tariffs, movement of people, visa, the northern Irish border and any potential payments.
All we saw was Boris and Farage standing in front of a big red bus boasting how £350million would be diverted to the NHS.
Of course, that turned out to be a lie.
We were given woefully inadequate information to make a fully informed decision.
Bigots, racists and xenophobes clearly swayed some people, as did the right wing press via Dacre and and Murdoch
And after over 2 years of non negotiations, we are still no nearer knowing what the impact will be.
But, as my thread clearly shows, with hard evidence from the leading players it affects, Brexit is not going to be good.
Which is why I still think we should remain, but with joint party negotiators, re-evalue out position in the EU and negotiate a stronger position.
Which should have been Cameron's position before he called for e referendum, then run. As did Boris. As did Davis. As did Raab.
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Post by nicko Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:25 pm

The EU leaders have just said "even if Britain leaves with no deal, we will still have to pay them £39 billion.
What do you think of that Andy ?
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Post by Vintage Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:33 pm

The government and the general political class have made a mess of the whole process. There should have been consultation and arguments about the deal before we started negotiations and then presented a united front, not this mish mash divided front.
I don't know about Andy but I say -no deal no pay.

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Post by Syl Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:39 pm

Andy wrote:Well, Nicko, when I cast my vote, ,I was 55/45 to remain. Simply because I didn't know enough about what leaving would REALLY mean, and the impact and effect Brexit would have on everyday people, jobs, big and small businesses, the banks, the NHS,farmers,fishermen, tariffs, movement of people, visa, the northern Irish border and any potential payments.
All we saw was Boris and Farage standing in front of a big red bus boasting how £350million would be diverted to the NHS.
Of course, that turned out to be a lie.
We were given woefully inadequate information to make a fully informed decision.
Bigots, racists and xenophobes clearly swayed some people, as did the right wing press via Dacre and and Murdoch
And after over 2 years of non negotiations, we are still no nearer knowing what the impact will be.
But, as my thread clearly shows, with hard evidence from the leading players it affects, Brexit is not going to be good.
Which is why I still think we should remain, but with joint party negotiators, re-evalue out position in the EU and negotiate a stronger position.
Which should have been Cameron's position before he called for e referendum, then run. As did Boris. As did Davis. As did Raab.

Well there was a referendum and the people voted.
At least Theresa May had the guts to take on the job of trying to uphold the public vote, and she has stuck at it even though she has been stabbed in the back at every turn.
I wont vote for her or any Conservative come the next general election, and if Corbyn is still leader of the opposition I sure as hell wont vote Labour either.
What a mess this country is in at the moment. Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:16 pm



We can leave on WTO rules and article 24 of that means we can have tariff free trade for another 2 years and even up to 10 years while we come to another arrangement on trade.

No paying 39 billion... no BACKSTOP...!!!


The house of lords has already said that we don't owe the EU 39 billion and we don't have to pay them anything!!!
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:18 pm


House of lords ruling here...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/uk-could-quit-eu-without-paying-a-penny-say-lords


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Post by Andy Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:06 pm

A 2 year old report.

Do keep up.
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:42 pm



Still the same...
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