Teenage asylum seeker brutally attacked in Croydon

Tommy Monk wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

How can it be racist to point out that someone doesn't speak English?

Didge has said that earlier on this thread...!




I think his knickers are getting so twisted that it's cutting off the blood flow to his brain!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:If they can't speak English then it is not racist to say they can't speak English...

Tommy wrote:
"...Yeah sorry,shrublands is a wonderful place( if you forget about the gangs,drugs,fights,p
eople who can't speak English,nappies thrown out of windows,vandalism ands tonnes of litter everywhere )..."

Thorin wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:
"...Yeah sorry,shrublands is a wonderful place( if you forget about the gangs,drugs,fights,p
eople who can't speak English,nappies thrown out of windows,vandalism ands tonnes of litter everywhere )..."

Tommy Monk wrote:



That was a comment from the local news article link!!!

Raggamuffin wrote:You approve of nappies being thrown out of windows, vandalism, and litter then Didge?

Thorin wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:



That was a comment from the local news article link!!!

Which you posted from a far right Web site.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Thorin wrote:

Which you posted from a far right poster

So how can you know whether they can speak English or not?

No... it was the local croydon guardian newspaper Web site article...!!!




Think you need to have a lay down in a darkened room for a while Didge... you're losing the plot mate!!!

Thorin wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:You approve of nappies being thrown out of windows, vandalism, and litter then Didge?

Where is the evidence for that?

Raggamuffin wrote:Nice edit Didge.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Thorin wrote:


Where is the evidence for that?

Evidence for what?

Thorin wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Evidence for what?

The claim you made.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Thorin wrote:

The claim you made.

I didn't make a claim.

Thorin wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I didn't make a claim.

You asked:

"You approve of nappies being thrown out of windows, vandalism, and litter then Didge?"

I then asked where is the evidence for this?

Make your mind up Rags

Tommy Monk wrote:Yes... quick on the edit there dodge...!


You had posted that it was from a far right Web site...


But anyway... why do you think that a local persons account of their experience of the area makes them 'far right'...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:Yes... quick on the edit there dodge...!


You had posted that it was from a far right Web site...


But anyway... why do you think that a local persons account of their experience of the area makes them 'far right'...!?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Thorin wrote:

You asked:

"You approve of nappies being thrown out of windows, vandalism, and litter then Didge?"

I then asked where is the evidence for this?

Make your mind up Rags

That wasn't a claim. You always have a problem with question marks don't you?

Thorin wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That wasn't a claim. You always have a problem with question marks don't you?

I want to know where is the evidence for this claim?

You cant provide any, so you want me to condemn something you cannot prove happened?

How odd indeed.

If you have evidence of this happening, I will happily condemn for you Rags

Raggamuffin wrote:

Thorin wrote:

I want to know where is the evidence for this claim?

You cant provide any, so you want me to condemn something you cannot prove happened?

How odd indeed.

If you have evidence of this happening, I will happily condemn for you Rags

There was no claim Didge. Keep up.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Yes... quick on the edit there dodge...!


You had posted that it was from a far right Web site...


But anyway... why do you think that a local persons account of their experience of the area makes them 'far right'...!?

Come on Tommy - If they have an aversion to nappies being thrown out of windows, they must be far right.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Come on Tommy - If they have an aversion to nappies being thrown out of windows, they must be far right.

Yes... only far right white british racist Nazi thugs are opposed to window nappy throwing scum bags...!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:Good night Didge... I've had enough of your idiocy for today!!!


Night Raggs... have fun!!!


Try not to break him...!


:lol!;

Tommy Monk wrote:

I bet there is much more to this story than the media is making it out to be...

Sounds to me that this was very much a targeted attack... but I bet it has nothing to do with him being an asylum seeker!!!

And... I bet that the attackers had not come from being in the pub, and I bet they were not white English either... although i have read a couple of the articles where there is clear mention of attackers coming from/leaving towards the direction of the pub at the time around 11.30pm of attack, and the attack being described as 'racist'... which is suggestive of the attackers being a group of pissed up white English male racist thugs... who just happened to randomly encounter the other 3 and who then decided to set upon them for no reason other than their 'racism'!!!


What a load of bollocks!!!

HoratioTarr wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

I bet there is much more to this story than the media is making it out to be...

Sounds to me that this was very much a targeted attack... but I bet it has nothing to do with him being an asylum seeker!!!

And... I bet that the attackers had not come from being in the pub, and I bet they were not white English either... although i have read a couple of the articles where there is clear mention of attackers coming from/leaving towards the direction of the pub at the time around 11.30pm of attack, and the attack being described as 'racist'... which is suggestive of the attackers being a group of pissed up white English male racist thugs... who just happened to randomly encounter the other 3 and who then decided to set upon them for no reason other than their 'racism'!!!


What a load of bollocks!!!

The suspects are black. Not that this makes a difference to the attack.   But people seem to assume that any attacks on migrants are perpetrated by white people.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Looks like I was 100% correct...!

Syl wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4374572/CCTV-3-suspects-wanted-asylum-seeker-attack.html

Trust odious Dianne Abbot to get in on the act and make a complete fool of herself once more. How she can blame this sort of thuggery on the Tories and Brexit is beyond belief.

'Diane Abbott was denounced as 'sickening' after she blamed Brexit and the Tories for the gang attack on the teenage asylum seeker in Croydon.
Labour's Shadow Home Secretary sought political gain while the 17-year-old Kurdish Iranian was fighting for his life in hospital.
After the brutal assault in South London, Miss Abbott blamed the Conservatives for the incident, saying: 'Sadly, this is not an isolated incident but part of a sustained increase in hate crimes that this Tory Government is yet to offer any effective response to.
'With Right-wing politicians across the world scapegoating migrants, refugees and others for their economic problems, we are seeing a deeply worrying rise in the politics of hate.
'We must make clear that there is no place for anti-foreigner myths, racism and hate in our society.' Miss Abbott then went on Sky News to suggest Brexit had been a factor. 'I'm not surprised in the attack because we have seen a rise in hate crime and anti-migrant feeling, particularly since Brexit,' she said. 'Much of the Brexit campaign was around fear of migrants, this now is being reflected in the rise in hate crime.
'I'm hearing anecdotal evidence of people being shouted at and abused in the street. I've not been attacked, but friends and family members have been shouted at in the street.'
Chris Philp, the Tory MP for Croydon South, said it was 'despicable' to blame the referendum for the attack.
'This is a sickening attempt by Diane Abbott to politicise what is an awful crime that has been condemned by people across the political spectrum,' he said. 'What she seems to be doing is to attribute blame for the rise in hate crime to political parties – that is completely unjustified and unreasonable.' 

Syl wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

Looks like I was 100% correct...!

I don't think anyone else here mentioned  the attackers colour Tommy, I'm sure some people did presume the way the media reported this but it wasn't mentioned on here.
And it seems he was targeted because he is an asylum seeker, at least that's what the police believe.

The attack details are horrible, the poor man was repeatedly kicked and punched in the head  by this gang as he lay helpless  on the floor. Many people stood around watching.
Its despicable.

5 people have so far been charged.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39479476

"Five people have been charged over an attack on a teenage asylum seeker in south London, police say.
The Kurdish-Iranian 17-year-old was approached at a bus stop before being chased and subjected to a "brutal attack" by up to 30 people.

He was left with a fractured skull and a blood clot on his brain after the assault in Croydon on Friday.

The five were charged with violent disorder, while one was also charged with racially aggravated GBH.
In total, 11 people have been arrested and officers are trying to locate five others. They have also released CCTV images of two men they would like to speak to about what they describe as a racially motivated attack.
All those arrested are aged between 17 and 24."

Tommy Monk wrote:And he was specifically targeted for some reason... if there were so many attackers then his friends didn't escape with luck... they were not targeted...

Syl wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

The suspects are black. Not that this makes a difference to the attack.   But people seem to assume that any attacks on migrants are perpetrated by white people.

There is some truth in that, as Tommy was pointing out yesterday. Mention gangs of thugs, pubs, attacks on immigrants or asylum seekers,  and I do believe some people assume the thugs are white Brits.
People like Dianne Abbot encourage this myth.

Syl wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

Looks like I was 100% correct...!

I don't think anyone else here mentioned  the attackers colour Tommy, I'm sure some people did presume the way the media reported this but it wasn't mentioned on here.
And it seems he was targeted because he is an asylum seeker, at least that's what the police believe.

The attack details are horrible, the poor man was repeatedly kicked and punched in the head  by this gang as he lay helpless  on the floor. Many people stood around watching.
Its despicable.

5 people have so far been charged.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39479476

"Five people have been charged over an attack on a teenage asylum seeker in south London, police say.
The Kurdish-Iranian 17-year-old was approached at a bus stop before being chased and subjected to a "brutal attack" by up to 30 people.

He was left with a fractured skull and a blood clot on his brain after the assault in Croydon on Friday.

The five were charged with violent disorder, while one was also charged with racially aggravated GBH.
In total, 11 people have been arrested and officers are trying to locate five others. They have also released CCTV images of two men they would like to speak to about what they describe as a racially motivated attack.
All those arrested are aged between 17 and 24."

Raggamuffin wrote:

Syl wrote:

There is some truth in that, as Tommy was pointing out yesterday. Mention gangs of thugs, pubs, attacks on immigrants or asylum seekers,  and I do believe some people assume the thugs are white Brits.
People like Dianne Abbot encourage this myth.

That's pretty much what I said yesterday.

Syl wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

The suspects are black. Not that this makes a difference to the attack.   But people seem to assume that any attacks on migrants are perpetrated by white people.

There is some truth in that, as Tommy was pointing out yesterday. Mention gangs of thugs, pubs, attacks on immigrants or asylum seekers,  and I do believe some people assume the thugs are white Brits.
People like Dianne Abbot encourage this myth.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That's pretty much what I said yesterday.

And exactly what I was getting at from start of this thread too!


What pictures of 'whites' Raggs?

(Good evening to you by the way!)

Raggamuffin wrote:Maybe they'll charge some of them with attempted murder. The arrests yesterday were on the grounds of suspicion of attempted murder I think.

It's not right that it should be "assault" or whatever.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Syl wrote:

I don't think anyone else here mentioned  the attackers colour Tommy, I'm sure some people did presume the way the media reported this but it wasn't mentioned on here.
And it seems he was targeted because he is an asylum seeker, at least that's what the police believe.

The attack details are horrible, the poor man was repeatedly kicked and punched in the head  by this gang as he lay helpless  on the floor. Many people stood around watching.
Its despicable.

5 people have so far been charged.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39479476

"Five people have been charged over an attack on a teenage asylum seeker in south London, police say.
The Kurdish-Iranian 17-year-old was approached at a bus stop before being chased and subjected to a "brutal attack" by up to 30 people.

He was left with a fractured skull and a blood clot on his brain after the assault in Croydon on Friday.

The five were charged with violent disorder, while one was also charged with racially aggravated GBH.
In total, 11 people have been arrested and officers are trying to locate five others. They have also released CCTV images of two men they would like to speak to about what they describe as a racially motivated attack.
All those arrested are aged between 17 and 24."

So they're not charging them with attempted murder after all? The charges are too lenient.

The photos I've seen are of white people.