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Post by Eilzel Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:38 am

Going back to the OP, it seems nobody here has been saying the same at all, Stormee- now do catch up with the rest of us Wink
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:39 am

As my Mum used to say 'there he is, all by himself in the moonlight'!

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Post by Irn Bru Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:40 am

Eilzel wrote:Going back to the OP, it seems nobody here has been saying the same at all, Stormee- now do catch up with the rest of us Wink

Or try another forum Laughing
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Post by Eilzel Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:44 am

Indeed haha

Though to is nice to have people like that around, we'd forget there are still people living under rocks otherwise Razz
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:45 am

Eilzel wrote:Indeed haha

Though to is nice to have people like that around, we'd forget there are still people living under rocks otherwise Razz

Why don't you crawl back under your own rock? Laughing
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Post by veya_victaous Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:07 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Stormee wrote:The homosexual is the one offending, not I.
He is offending mankind, humanity.
He is offending decent normal men.
He is offending nature
He is offending God.

Spose none of that matters.

HOW DOES ANYONE ON FORUMS KNOW WHO IS WHO AND WHAT THEIR PREFERENCES REALLY ARE?

How does anyone on forums KNOW FOR SURE who is telling the truth and who is lying?

Their are trolls on all forums.

You are Offensive to ALL GOOD PEOPLE Neutral
in this i am not trolling.

you are not decent and the fear and cowardice you promote means you can scarcely call yourself a man,
So how on earth would you have the slightest Clue What Offends Decent Normal Men?
you are offended but that just means it offends cowardly fools.

You're trolling again. You're not a good person so get off your high horse.
I am much better than you or Stormee
And the fact you think i am bad MAKES ME GOOD
You are Evil you are scum, you like stormee are outed by your opinions as being vile.
you support theft from refugees.. like i said If your moral compass says I am bad I must be Really good,
how anyone could express such evil as you do and pretend to not be scum.

And I'm not trolling, I would be even more vehement in real life.
he is Scum expresses the same opinion as ISIS.
he deserves the same too.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:02 am

Irn Bru wrote:This overall debate is about whether it would only be a hate crime if it was directed at a specific person as you were claiming which is wrong and I've showed you the law that supports that it is wrong.

After all the flaneling about that you have indulged throughout this thread you're now trying to reduce the whole thing down to a single case to in somehow prove that because as far as you know there has not been a conviction for something said in a conversation proves the law is only relevant in respect of a disgusting homophobic comment made to a person and not a 'group'.

You're wrong and you have always been wrong in saying it is only a hate crime if it is directed at a person.


Wrong, this debate started because Korben stated it was a hate crime, I stated it was not a hate crime, so even there you continue to lie and now change the direction of the debate to try and win some empty victory over a point on whether I mean person or person which as seen I clarrified of which you desperately still stick to this very lame point. So again that shows you have not read this thread, that it is some lame childish vendetta where others agree with me and how even worse you failed to answer again any of my points and the simple reason you could not answer them

Because it is not a hate crime

Now stop wasting my time with your pathetic childish feud with me, either go back and answer my points or do not expect a reply the next time, as i am not wasting my time with people who are more driven by a hate they hold of someone theen seeing any rational sense here, but one thing is clear you are fundementally wrong and even worse you would enact a law that would criminalize a point of view not directed at anyone in particular, which would open the flood gates to millions being prosecuted daily for just things they said in conversation and not like a hate crime where it is comepletely direted at an individual or some people itself

Your choice

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:01 am

Stormee wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
I am much better than you or Stormee
And the fact you think i am bad MAKES ME GOOD
You are Evil you are scum, you like stormee are outed by your opinions as being vile.
you support theft from refugees.. like i said If your moral compass says I am bad I must be Really good,
how anyone could express such evil as you do and pretend to not be scum.

And I'm not trolling, I would be even more vehement in real life.
he is Scum expresses the same opinion as ISIS.
he deserves the same too.

MORE personal insults from Didge.

lol that is Veya and at no point have I ever insulted you

I think you need to grow up, because you are doing yourself no favours here

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Post by veya_victaous Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:13 am

Didge wrote:
Stormee wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
I am much better than you or Stormee
And the fact you think i am bad MAKES ME GOOD
You are Evil you are scum, you like stormee are outed by your opinions as being vile.
you support theft from refugees.. like i said If your moral compass says I am bad I must be Really good,
how anyone could express such evil as you do and pretend to not be scum.

And I'm not trolling, I would be even more vehement in real life.
he is Scum expresses the same opinion as ISIS.
he deserves the same too.

MORE personal insults from Didge.

lol that is Veya and at no point have I ever insulted you

I think you need to grow up, because you are doing yourself no favours here

lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

yeah you cant dob didge in for my post Winston McKenzi - Homo Comment - Page 7 3489511464

especially when i am the only admin online Laughing
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:16 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Didge wrote:

lol that is Veya and at no point have I ever insulted you

I think you need to grow up, because you are doing yourself no favours here

lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

yeah you cant dob didge in for my post  Winston McKenzi - Homo Comment - Page 7 3489511464

especially when i am the only admin online  Laughing


Cor blimey, and all i did was give him some friendly advise..

Oh well, if he wants to sulk, let him, I really am not going to worry myself..

Laughing

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:17 am

Anyway Veya, catch you later I guess, have things to do

All the best

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:54 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You're trolling again. You're not a good person so get off your high horse.
I am much better than you or Stormee
And the fact you think i am bad MAKES ME GOOD
You are Evil you are scum, you like stormee are outed by your opinions as being vile.
you support theft from refugees.. like i said If your moral compass says I am bad I must be Really good,
how anyone could express such evil as you do and pretend to not be scum.

And I'm not trolling, I would be even more vehement in real life.
he is Scum expresses the same opinion as ISIS.
he deserves the same too.

If you think I'm evil scum, that means I must be fabulous. cheers
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:59 am

Stormee wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
I am much better than you or Stormee
And the fact you think i am bad MAKES ME GOOD
You are Evil you are scum, you like stormee are outed by your opinions as being vile.
you support theft from refugees.. like i said If your moral compass says I am bad I must be Really good,
how anyone could express such evil as you do and pretend to not be scum.

And I'm not trolling, I would be even more vehement in real life.
he is Scum expresses the same opinion as ISIS.
he deserves the same too.

MORE personal insults from Didge.

It's Veya - he's like Didge but with buttons.

He's very bitter because he's not British - just treat him with the contempt he deserves. rabbit
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:08 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Stormee wrote:

MORE personal insults from Didge.

It's Veya - he's like Didge but with buttons.

He's very bitter because he's not British - just treat him with the contempt he deserves. rabbit

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Post by eddie Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:17 am

This guy WAS NOT CHARGED
So how can this be perceived as a hate crime?

If I said what he'd said, in a pub, would the police come and arrest me, should someone report it?
No.

So it's not a hate CRIME.

I'm not understanding what some, are failing to see here??
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:23 am

eddie wrote:This guy WAS NOT CHARGED
So how can this be perceived as a hate crime?

If I said what he'd said, in a pub, would the police come and arrest me, should someone report it?
No.

So it's not a hate CRIME.

I'm not understanding what some, are failing to see here??


Eddie to be honet I think they know this too, sadly this is actually something else, more about trying to prove me wrong, than actually seeing any sense on here, but if that is what they are setting out to do, good luck to them,. as its boring.

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Post by eddie Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:26 am

It's utterly stupid as it's plainly obvious it's not a hate crime.
If people think it should be, then that's a different argument.

I'm sure we all (or most of us) agree that it was an utterly stupid and horrid thing to say, but that doesn't make it a hate crime.
It's an opinion and we are all entitled to one.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:27 am

I will add Eddie to prove my point, look how little amount of counters are made to both you and Eilze where you both agree with me and the vast majority are aimed at me, to the view of claiming I am wrong.
It really is that sad how these debates are now turning out as that is the end game, attempting to prove me wrong not find the truth of the matter

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:33 am

Didge wrote:I will add Eddie to prove my point, look how little amount of counters are made to both you and Eilze where you both agree with me and the vast majority are aimed at me, to the view of claiming I am wrong.
It really is that sad how these debates are now turning out as that is the end game, attempting to prove me wrong not find the truth of the matter

Says the person who just told a complete lie about me because he's bored. If you want to talk about games, include yourself in that. Winston McKenzi - Homo Comment - Page 7 3489511464
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:36 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:I will add Eddie to prove my point, look how little amount of counters are made to both you and Eilze where you both agree with me and the vast majority are aimed at me, to the view of claiming I am wrong.
It really is that sad how these debates are now turning out as that is the end game, attempting to prove me wrong not find the truth of the matter

Says the person who just told a complete lie about me because he's bored. If you want to talk about games, include yourself in that. Winston McKenzi - Homo Comment - Page 7 3489511464


Soory but can we have that translated to make any sort of sense please?

You see now I know you are completely wound up, you are making comments in the nain attempt to goad, which fails badly everytime

Still waiting to know if you have ever had oral sex as well, and why you think humans are designed?

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:39 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Says the person who just told a complete lie about me because he's bored. If you want to talk about games, include yourself in that. Winston McKenzi - Homo Comment - Page 7 3489511464


Soory but can we have that translated to make any sort of sense please?

You see now I know you are completely wound up, you are making comments in the nain attempt to goad, which fails badly everytime

Still waiting to know if you have ever had oral sex as well, and why you think humans are designed?

Mind your own business and stop asking me personal questions. Shocked

You think that people are claiming this was a hate crime just to contradict you - what a high opinion you have of yourself.

For the record, I said early on that it clearly wasn't a crime.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:41 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


Soory but can we have that translated to make any sort of sense please?

You see now I know you are completely wound up, you are making comments in the nain attempt to goad, which fails badly everytime

Still waiting to know if you have ever had oral sex as well, and why you think humans are designed?

Mind your own business and stop asking me personal questions. Shocked

You think that people are claiming this was a hate crime just to contradict you - what a high opinion you have of yourself.

For the record, I said early on that it clearly wasn't a crime.


Well its important to understand whether are not you are being comepletely hypocritical if you have ever given blowjobs, because the mouth did not evolve to suck cock, but countless women love sucking cock, so its important to understand rags.

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:43 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Mind your own business and stop asking me personal questions. Shocked

You think that people are claiming this was a hate crime just to contradict you - what a high opinion you have of yourself.

For the record, I said early on that it clearly wasn't a crime.


Well its important to understand whether are not you are being comepletely hypocritical if you have ever given blowjobs, because the mouth did not evolve to suck cock, but countless women love sucking cock, so its important to understand rags.

I'll ask you again to stop asking me personal questions. You're coming across as a bit icky.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:45 am

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Didge wrote:


Well its important to understand whether are not you are being comepletely hypocritical if you have ever given blowjobs, because the mouth did not evolve to suck cock, but countless women love sucking cock, so its important to understand rags.

I'll ask you again to stop asking me personal questions. You're coming across as a bit icky.


Again when you make absurd claims to saying something is not designed to be used that way, even though what you meant is evolved, i will ask you what ever I like to assertain if you are showing the worst double standards and being hypocritical

Now have you ever had and received oral sex or given oral sex?

If you are a prude, just say  so and we will leave it at that

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:49 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I'll ask you again to stop asking me personal questions. You're coming across as a bit icky.


Again when you make absurd claims to saying something is not designed to be used that way, even though what you meant is evolved, i will ask you what ever I like to assertain if you are showing the worst double standards and being hypocritical

Now have you ever had and received oral sex or given oral sex?

If you are a prude, just say  so and we will leave it at that

Stop perving Didge. I shall have to ask a mod to step in if you continue to be a sex pest.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:51 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


Again when you make absurd claims to saying something is not designed to be used that way, even though what you meant is evolved, i will ask you what ever I like to assertain if you are showing the worst double standards and being hypocritical

Now have you ever had and received oral sex or given oral sex?

If you are a prude, just say  so and we will leave it at that

Stop perving Didge. I shall have to ask a mod to step in if you continue to be a sex pest.


Do as you please but I have broken no rules here and considering you think a sexual act is wrongn and has not evolved that way, I am interested to know what other sexual acts you think is wrong.
I will just have to conclude that by your refusal to answer is that you have  and that you are showing the worst double standards

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:52 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Stop perving Didge. I shall have to ask a mod to step in if you continue to be a sex pest.


Do as you please but I have broken no rules here and considering you think a sexual act is wrongn and has not evolved that way, I am interested to know what other sexual acts you think is wrong.
I will just have to conclude that by your refusal to answer is that you have  and that you are showing the worst double standards

Harassing women and pestering them about their personal sex lives is really not on Didge.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:53 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


Do as you please but I have broken no rules here and considering you think a sexual act is wrongn and has not evolved that way, I am interested to know what other sexual acts you think is wrong.
I will just have to conclude that by your refusal to answer is that you have  and that you are showing the worst double standards

Harassing women and pestering them about their personal sex lives is really not on Didge.


Its very important when you have fundementally questioned other peoples lives by them engaging in anal sex, but that does not seem to bother you and again shows the worst double standards

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:55 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Harassing women and pestering them about their personal sex lives is really not on Didge.


Its very important when you have fundementally questioned other peoples lives by them engaging in anal sex, but that does not seem to bother you and again shows the worst double standards

You're just perving, and I've asked you to stop twice now.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:56 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


Its very important when you have fundementally questioned other peoples lives by them engaging in anal sex, but that does not seem to bother you and again shows the worst double standards

You're just perving, and I've asked you to stop twice now.

Really, where on exactly another thread you are having a similar discussion with Eilzel.

Pot kettle black by any chance

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:57 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You're just perving, and I've asked you to stop twice now.

Really, where on exactly another thread you are having a similar discussion with Eilzel.

Pot kettle black by any chance

Where did I ask Les if he had ever had oral sex?

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:58 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:

Really, where on exactly another thread you are having a similar discussion with Eilzel.

Pot kettle black by any chance

Where did I ask Les if he had ever had oral sex?



What did you fail to understand about similar?

You are speaking about how the body to you is not meant to have anal sex are you not?

Is that not personal?

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:03 pm

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Where did I ask Les if he had ever had oral sex?



What did you fail to understand about similar?

You are speaking about how the body to you is not meant to have anal sex are you not?

Is that not personal?

No, because I wasn't talking about Les's arse, and I didn't ask him any personal questions.

Now I suggest that you stop being a sex pest.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:05 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


What did you fail to understand about similar?

You are speaking about how the body to you is not meant to have anal sex are you not?

Is that not personal?

No, because I wasn't talking about Les's arse, and I didn't ask him any personal questions.

Now I suggest that you stop being a sex pest.


See double standards,. you have no idea if Eilzel engages in this practice but are happy to talk about something that may effect him personally.
You see why your infantile victinhood status falls utterly flat?

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Post by eddie Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:05 pm

Okay I am stepping in.

Didge is asking because it's relevant to another debate - I've asked similar questions to Tommy in the same sort of debate.

So, I'll suggest, that whilst no rule is being broken by didge, that it may come across better, to keep that question on the thread where it's relevant, and if a poster doesn't want to answer then that's their prerogative.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:08 pm

eddie wrote:Okay I am stepping in.

Didge is asking because it's relevant to another debate - I've asked similar questions to Tommy in the same sort of debate.

So, I'll suggest, that whilst no rule is being broken by didge, that it may come across better, to keep that question on the thread where it's relevant, and if a poster doesn't want to answer then that's their prerogative.


To right no rule is broken and the fact is she is happy to be personal speaking of s sexual act with eilzel, clearly not caruing if it is personal to him. Whether it is or not is irrelevant, what is pathetic is every time rags makes pathetic and infatile accusations, just because she refuses to answer knowing full well she will look very silly.
That is why she goes running to you as she did here.

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:09 pm

eddie wrote:Okay I am stepping in.

Didge is asking because it's relevant to another debate - I've asked similar questions to Tommy in the same sort of debate.

So, I'll suggest, that whilst no rule is being broken by didge, that it may come across better, to keep that question on the thread where it's relevant, and if a poster doesn't want to answer then that's their prerogative.

I would prefer not to be asked the question in the first place. I haven't asked anyone what they do, so I don't see why I should be pestered by Didge about personal matters. I have asked him twice to stop and he refused. If he asks me that question in the other thread, I will ask you to step in. This is not the first time that someone has objected to his sexual harassment.
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:10 pm

Didge wrote:
eddie wrote:Okay I am stepping in.

Didge is asking because it's relevant to another debate - I've asked similar questions to Tommy in the same sort of debate.

So, I'll suggest, that whilst no rule is being broken by didge, that it may come across better, to keep that question on the thread where it's relevant, and if a poster doesn't want to answer then that's their prerogative.


To right no rule is broken and the fact is she is happy to be personal speaking of s sexual act with eilzel, clearly not caruing if it is personal to him. Whether it is or not is irrelevant, what is pathetic is every time rags makes pathetic and infatile accusations, just because she refuses to answer knowing full well she will look very silly.
That is why she goes running to you as she did here.

I didn't go running to anyone. Eddie must have read the thread because ... you know ... she can actually read.
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Post by eddie Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:12 pm

Rags hasn't asked me to do anything.
I think it's best to stick to the topic on this thread guys.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:12 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


To right no rule is broken and the fact is she is happy to be personal speaking of s sexual act with eilzel, clearly not caruing if it is personal to him. Whether it is or not is irrelevant, what is pathetic is every time rags makes pathetic and infatile accusations, just because she refuses to answer knowing full well she will look very silly.
That is why she goes running to you as she did here.

I didn't go running to anyone. Eddie must have read the thread because ... you know ... she can actually read.


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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:13 pm

Just admit that were wrong Didge - yet again.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:14 pm

eddie wrote:Rags hasn't asked me to do anything.
I think it's best to stick to the topic on this thread guys.
Yes boss..

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:24 pm

Stormee wrote:It is clearly sexual harassment from Didge, quite disgusting and nasty, just what you would expect from him.

Even worse is when management support him by their non condemnation.

No one with even a modicum of self respect would ask such a question.

Jusr imagine being in a pub and asking a female that question with her husband, fiancee within earshot.

I never ever thought I would see this filth on a forum which does not go down well.

Thank you Stormee. I also don't think it's enough to say that I don't have to answer. I had already asked him to stop questioning me, and he carried on.
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:28 pm

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

No, because I wasn't talking about Les's arse, and I didn't ask him any personal questions.

Now I suggest that you stop being a sex pest.


See double standards,. you have no idea if Eilzel engages in this practice but are happy to talk about something that may effect him personally.
You see why your infantile victinhood status falls utterly flat?

What an absurd argument. So you object to anyone discussing any subject which might affect someone personally.


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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:28 pm

Stormee wrote:It is clearly sexual harassment from Didge, quite disgusting and nasty, just what you would expect from him.

Even worse is when management support him by their non condemnation.

No one with even a modicum of self respect would ask such a question.

Jusr imagine being in a pub and asking a female that question with her husband, fiancee within earshot.

I never ever thought I would see this filth on a forum which does not go down well.


lol you really have got yourself very upset

Suck it up crybaby

Seriously you are not fooling anyone buddy, the only thing that is evident is you are very backward holding very unscientific views, that discriminate, so best you take a leaf out of your own book and start being nice to others, as nobody has hardly said any abuse to you.

Grow up

You are not fooling people here

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:30 pm

Didge wrote:
Stormee wrote:It is clearly sexual harassment from Didge, quite disgusting and nasty, just what you would expect from him.

Even worse is when management support him by their non condemnation.

No one with even a modicum of self respect would ask such a question.

Jusr imagine being in a pub and asking a female that question with her husband, fiancee within earshot.

I never ever thought I would see this filth on a forum which does not go down well.


lol you really have got yourself very upset

Suck it up crybaby

Seriously you are not fooling anyone buddy, the only thing that is evident is you are very backward holding very unscientific views, that discriminate, so best you take a leaf out of your own book and start being nice to others, as nobody has hardly said any abuse to you.

Grow up

You are not fooling people here

Stormee is a gentleman, and he's pulled you up for your sleazy questions. It's very good of him to do that.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:30 pm

Stormee wrote:Badgering, harassing, haranguing a female on a sexual issue is very nasty indeed.

I condemn it.


And yet you are happy to be abusive towards a whole group of people who are homosexual who have done nothing to you where I only asked her questions about sex

Never mind Pakistanley, we sussed who you were along time ago

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