'I support Ukip,'(and the SNP) says Moors murderer Ian Brady

by Irn Bru Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:50 pm

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'I support Ukip,' says Moors murderer Ian Brady as he brands Cameron a 'public school millionaire' and Miliband a 'refugee, privileged German Jew' in bizarre letters

Moors murderer Ian Brady has revealed he is a Ukip supporter and thinks David Dimbleby is an 'establishment dumpling'.

The 77-year-old wrote the letters from his bed at Ashworth psychiatric hospital in Merseyside.

Brady was jailed for life in 1966 after torturing and killing five children with his then-girlfriend Myra Hindley.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055928/Moors-murderer-Ian-Brady-reveals-Ukip-supporter-brands-David-Dimbleby-establishment-dumpling-series-ranting-letters-Ashworth-hospital.html

Oh dear.

by Guest Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:42 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Go and pick on Ben for saying that the Palestians own their land instead of derailing this thread. Go and pick on yourself for claiming that the Israelis have the right to do what they want in their own country.

Just to be clear, I think everybody should be abiding by the 1967 treaty, as I've said before. The Israelis have their country. Their forced expansion is not right.

Wrong debate.

I agree on the 1967, so why is it twice this could have been achived and the PLO and Fatah denied this from happenning?

by Raggamuffin Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:46 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Go and pick on Ben for saying that the Palestians own their land instead of derailing this thread. Go and pick on yourself for claiming that the Israelis have the right to do what they want in their own country.

Just to be clear, I think everybody should be abiding by the 1967 treaty, as I've said before. The Israelis have their country. Their forced expansion is not right.

Didge thinks that Brits should not take priority in Britain, but you think that Palestians should take priority in Palestine. Does that mean that you disagree with Didge?

by Guest Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:48 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

Just to be clear, I think everybody should be abiding by the 1967 treaty, as I've said before. The Israelis have their country. Their forced expansion is not right.

Didge thinks that Brits should not take priority in Britain, but you think that Palestians should take priority in Palestine. Does that mean that you disagree with Didge?

Its Nemesis and no if you read back I spoke of equality which means nobody takes priority which shows again how you really are poor at debating and again bitter when you come off second best in a debate...
Everyone has a right to self determination, which includes Israeli's and Palestinians.

by Raggamuffin Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:49 am

Nemesis wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Didge thinks that Brits should not take priority in Britain, but you think that Palestians should take priority in Palestine. Does that mean that you disagree with Didge?

Its Nemesis and no if you read back I spoke of equality which means nobody takes priority which shows again how you really are poor at debating and again bitter when you come off second best in a debate...
Everyone has a right to self determination, which includes Israeli's and Palestinians.

Self determination by its nature gives priority to those in the country, otherwise there would be no point to it.

by Guest Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:51 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Nemesis wrote:

Its Nemesis and no if you read back I spoke of equality which means nobody takes priority which shows again how you really are poor at debating and again bitter when you come off second best in a debate...
Everyone has a right to self determination, which includes Israeli's and Palestinians.

Self determination by its nature gives priority to those in the country, otherwise there would be no point to it.

No it does not, which shows you do not understand its meaning

by Raggamuffin Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:53 am

Nemesis wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Self determination by its nature gives priority to those in the country, otherwise there would be no point to it.

No it does not, which shows you do not understand its meaning

Yes it does, otherwise why do people want self-determination? You're the one bleating on about "imaginary boundaries", and now you say you want those boundaries to be real.

by Guest Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:55 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Nemesis wrote:

No it does not, which shows you do not understand its meaning

Yes it does, otherwise why do people want self-determination? You're the one bleating on about "imaginary boundaries", and now you say you want those boundaries to be real.

1. Determination of one's own fate or course of action without compulsion; free will.
2. Freedom of the people of a given area to determine their own political status; independence.

The reality is they are imaginary boundaries formed by groups of people.

Can you point out this boundaries?

They only exists on maps and at check points.

The pointg is they should not have to exist which is the point I am making, but sadly the world has not evolved enough yet for that

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