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Post by Guest Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:25 pm

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In this article, John McCauley uses his experience as an Architect and Construction Manager to critically analyse the construction scheme for building the Khufu pyramid and the popular theory of the use of an internal ramp.


There has been an innumerable quantity of books written about the construction of the pyramids at Giza, Egypt. So too have there been any number of different theories on how the construction of these pyramids was accomplished, with each new or expanded theory accompanied by a description stating that it was the “definitive” solution, or “the puzzle finally solved”, etc. Of late, a few authors have focused on the “internal ramp solution” as being the most plausible explanation on how the ancient Egyptians built the Great Pyramid. Indeed, some Archaeologists have also acclaimed this “internal ramp solution” as a creative explanation for this ages-old construction mystery. Most Archaeologists, however, lack the technical training or understanding of the nature of structural forces to make a qualified endorsement of this proposed solution. Let me first state that this “internal ramp solution” represents a complete lack of understanding on how gravity affects structures and why this theory bears no serious thought in the academic world. Before I get into an analysis of why “internal ramps” do not work, let me state very clearly that I honestly do not know exactly how the Great Pyramid was actually built, but I think there are clues that may lead to a reasonable explanation in the future.
Let me first outline some of the facts that we do know about the Great Pyramid of Giza:

  • This pyramid appears to be the final evolution of pyramid building that evolved from the mud brick mastabas which were supposedly the resting place of important dignitaries.
  • The Great Pyramid has only one cartouche above the King’s chamber that purports to indicate that it is the burial chamber of Khufu (Cheops).
  • This pyramid was covered with smooth white casing stones that partially collapsed after a severe earthquake and were later used as a “quarry” to construct some buildings in Cairo, notably the Mosque and Madrassa of Sultan Hassan (completed in 1359). Some of these stones contained hieroglyphics. The Greek historian Herodotus claims to have seen the Great Pyramid before the casing stones were removed.
  • If some of the casing stones did contain hieroglyphics and if these stones were scattered around Lower Egypt, finding them and deciphering them could lead to some further understanding as to the construction of the pyramid.


http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/McCauleyJ1.php

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:02 pm

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Yeah that s why they went so downhill in such a short time afterwards.

whats that got to do with anything????
nations go tits up for all sorts of reasons....INCLUDING economic collapse due to over expenditure


We know very little about them in how they did many things

like??

and yet you and others claim based off nothing ore than possibilities, that is being short sighted on your part

nope you are being daft clinging to this metaphysical "lost knowlege ancient civilisations nonsense"

You wanted to mock, you have it turned on you

I dont see anyone but you laughing didge...and yours is the manic giggling of the inmate....

and you get upset, guess you are the one it seems who can dish it out but cannot take in return


Oh do grow up mate, you wanted to take the piss and do not like it back, suck it up.
You think possibilities is factual and why we both know that is abusrd

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Post by veya_victaous Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:04 pm

darknessss wrote:IF you want a REAL mystery........


try explaining the items that were apparantly "electroplated"...centuries before electricity was discovered

Baghdad battery
http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html
electroplating circa 250BC
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:04 pm

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And now in a desperate attempt to deflect Up didge drags the conspiracy theory again yet  the only person causing anything is you you have been constantly abusive ,denigrating to anybody who disagrees with you on a subject you obviously know nothing about you
fucking pitiful display of arrogance and hurborus
no no pm emails from sassy your just soi fucking obvious  in fact they was a post in the past coiuple of days that told you to put the bottle away and go to bed ,one on many of the same sugestions to you over the years as i said known you a long time din`t need pms to tell me your a alcoholic bud ,

You actually just keep proving me right, befoe you both cam back there was for the main part many civil debates here and look what happens when you return and invent things like alcoholism, even though I do not drink, you thus as well as Stassi as she made points to this look down on people who are alcoholics, as you both poorly attempt to use this against people.
That is all the evidence people need to see you are both here to create and cause shit.
Face the facts mate
Look back the abuse is all yours .....facts will bite you it the arse all the time
the only person who turned this in to a un civilised debate is you on multiple occasions

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:06 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
darknessss wrote:IF you want a REAL mystery........


try explaining the items that were apparantly "electroplated"...centuries before electricity was discovered

Baghdad battery
http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html
electroplating circa 250BC
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Thats them .....Bloody amazing used lemon juice and copper i think (would have to check with google)

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:09 pm

korban dallas wrote:
Brasidas wrote:

You actually just keep proving me right, befoe you both cam back there was for the main part many civil debates here and look what happens when you return and invent things like alcoholism, even though I do not drink, you thus as well as Stassi as she made points to this look down on people who are alcoholics, as you both poorly attempt to use this against people.
That is all the evidence people need to see you are both here to create and cause shit.
Face the facts mate


Look back the abuse is all yours .....facts will bite you it the arse all the time
the only person who turned this in to a un civilised debate is you on multiple occasions


Facts are facts, you started the infantile abuse and now moan when you get it ten times worse back

Tough, you reap what you sow and again it shows you have no intent to be here and civil and just create trouble

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:12 pm

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Oh do grow up mate, you wanted to take the piss and do not like it back, suck it up.


who's taking the piss...I proposed that in fact it is YOU who lives on improbable "possibilities" with this nonsense of "ancient civilisation and lost knowlege"  what next....ancient greeks got to the moon???


You think possibilities is factual and why we both know that is abusrd

nope I think proven mathematical knowlege allied to proven knowlege of building techniques is FAR MORE probable than some illusiory "lost knowlege" at least in this instance...


now on some of the latest posts...I would agree there IS a mystery......

thos bahgdad batteries


AND that over sized light bulb thingy...WTF is going on there???????

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:13 pm

Brasidas wrote:
korban dallas wrote:


Look back the abuse is all yours .....facts will bite you it the arse all the time
the only person who turned this in to a un civilised debate is you on multiple occasions


Facts are facts, you started the infantile abuse and now moan when you get it ten times worse back

Tough, you reap what you sow and again it shows you have no intent to be here and civil and just create trouble
no you started the abuse pall ,i made a observation you don`t know how to navigate out of a paper bag ,in no way what so ever is that abuse you just as useual want to justify your abuse claiming i abused you

your laughable dude and everybody is laughing

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:14 pm

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Brasidas wrote:



Oh do grow up mate, you wanted to take the piss and do not like it back, suck it up.


who's taking the piss...I proposed that in fact it is YOU who lives on improbable "possibilities" with this nonsense of "ancient civilisation and lost knowlege"  what next....ancient greeks got to the moon???


You think possibilities is factual and why we both know that is abusrd

nope I think proven mathematical knowlege allied to proven knowlege of building techniques is FAR MORE probable than some illusiory "lost knowlege" at least in this instance...


now on some of the latest posts...I would agree there IS a mystery......

thos bahgdad batteries


AND that over sized light bulb thingy...WTF is going on there???????

There are countless mysteries from the past and all we can do is give the best educated guesses, but the fact is in most cases we have no idea

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:17 pm

korban dallas wrote:
Brasidas wrote:


Facts are facts, you started the infantile abuse and now moan when you get it ten times worse back

Tough, you reap what you sow and again it shows you have no intent to be here and civil and just create trouble
no you started the abuse pall ,i made a observation you don`t know how to navigate out of a paper bag ,in no way what so ever is that abuse you just as useual want to justify your abuse claiming i abused you

your laughable dude and everybody is laughing


Oh do pipe down before you have a nose bleed son getting all over excited
The evidence is there you started the insults and even worse you cannot admit you did, it is what the left do when they seek to blame others for when they do fuck up themselves.
Glad you think everyone is laughing at me, does that make you feel good inside for that?
Seriously, your come backs have the mentality of a 5 year old mate, they are that lame

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:21 pm

that light bulb thingy

to me...LOOK like either a cold cathode discharge lamp....in which case its producing uv light aplenty

OR it could...just possibly.... be a crude x-ray generator.......

at the "front" of it and below is a stack of "things" which is reminiscent of a modern insulator...of the sort you see on pylons....except it is "the wrong way round"

HOWEVER...that wouldnt matter ...if it was only used "indoors"..... we only have them the other way up in order to prevent water from creating leakage paths.... and the way up they are in that picture would be much easier to make able to withstand weight.....


dunno...but it IS an good one....



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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:22 pm

of course it could just be some ancient egyptian thinking " this will screw with their heads in 5,000 years time...."

or it could be some esoteric form of egypstian porn How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3296370939

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:27 pm

Brasidas wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
no you started the abuse pall ,i made a observation you don`t know how to navigate out of a paper bag ,in no way what so ever is that abuse you just as useual want to justify your abuse claiming i abused you

your laughable dude and everybody is laughing


Oh do pipe down before you have a nose bleed son getting all over excited


NOT your son  and make me give it your best shot pall


The evidence is there you started the insults and even worse you cannot admit you did, it is what the left do when they seek to blame others for when they do fuck up themselves.



please produce this first insult (save people having to find it ) then i wil post your first abusive post after that ....see what other think

Glad you think everyone is laughing at me, does that make you feel good inside for that?

it sure don't feel bad that`s for sure i am more sad for you to be honest ...i mean really how the fuck you have survived so long the  real mystery
Seriously, your come backs have the mentality of a 5 year old mate, they are that lame(oh well practice make perfect i guess )
squirrel

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:29 pm

darknessss wrote:of course it could just be some ancient egyptian thinking " this will screw with their heads in 5,000 years time...."

or it could be some esoteric form of egypstian porn How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3296370939
I remember reading they are hieroglyphs with depictions of exactly that ,kind of a 50 shades of ....sand

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:30 pm

korban dallas wrote:
Brasidas wrote:


Oh do pipe down before you have a nose bleed son getting all over excited


NOT your son  and make me give it your best shot pall


The evidence is there you started the insults and even worse you cannot admit you did, it is what the left do when they seek to blame others for when they do fuck up themselves.



please produce this first insult (save people having to find it ) then i wil post your first abusive post after that ....see what other think

Glad you think everyone is laughing at me, does that make you feel good inside for that?

it sure don't feel bad that`s for sure i am more sad for you to be honest ...i mean really how the fuck you have survived so long the  real mystery
Seriously, your come backs have the mentality of a 5 year old mate, they are that lame(oh well practice make perfect i guess )
squirrel


Already produce this evidence already son.
You even adit you have insulted first by this very post:

then i wil post your first abusive post after that

See you even inadvertently admit your guilt of starting this.

Priceless son

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:32 pm

Brasidas wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
no you started the abuse what you claim as abuse from me is no such thing and only a lonely desperate liar would could not defend his position would try to make it a abuse

your so sad and desperate to drag your self out of the pickle your in you revert to type ...it wan`t unexpected
your known for it


you sir obviously couldn't navigate your self out of a paper bag


That is an insult and also mocking me.
Thus you started this all off and like the low life left wing worm that you are, you try to lie and all can see that the above is an insult and meant as an insult.
So time you stopped lying and move on sunshine

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:32 pm

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:33 pm

[quote="darknessss"]Korben...you owe me a new keyboard......being as that jsut made me spit a mouthful of coke all over it..... How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 [/quote


Maybe you use your nose instead.




Razz Razz Razz Razz

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:34 pm

Brasidas wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
squirrel


Already produce this evidence already son.
You even adit you have insulted first by this very post:

then i wil post your first abusive post after that

See you even inadvertently admit your guilt of starting this.

Priceless son
only using your screwed logic pall, you obviously a habitual liar the Walter Mitty of this forum ,produce this alleged abuse or forever be know as a liar and a fraud

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:36 pm

korban dallas wrote:
Brasidas wrote:


Already produce this evidence already son.
You even adit you have insulted first by this very post:

then i wil post your first abusive post after that

See you even inadvertently admit your guilt of starting this.

Priceless son
only using your screwed logic pall, you obviously a habitual liar the  Walter Mitty of this forum ,produce this alleged abuse or forever be know as a liar and a fraud


The abuse is posted above, your dummy throwing is now becoming epic son


Razz Razz Razz

You seriously are like Rolf Harris in complete denial of your problems

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:37 pm

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:Korben...you owe me a new keyboard......being as that jsut made me spit a mouthful of coke all over it..... How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3489511464 [/quote


Maybe you use your nose instead.




Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz

well didge it aint me thats on fairy dust tonite......and i know Korben is strictly a weed man How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 1942856362 .....so....... How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3852033631

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:37 pm

Again Korben has proved he is only back here for one reason to create as much shit as possible and with each post he keep proving it.
I mean ho wound must a person be to say they are amased I have survived this long?
Thank you Korben you are way too easy

Laughing

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:39 pm

darknessss wrote:
Brasidas wrote:

well didge it aint me thats on fairy dust tonite......and i know Korben is strictly a weed man How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 1942856362   .....so....... How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3852033631

Well coco cola, and you say coke.
He is insecure to need artificial stimulants to make him feel better, a person happy does not need them, which speaks volumes about his issues

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:42 pm

you sir obviously couldn't navigate your self out of a paper bag



not a insult what ever way you look at it
as usual your  full of bullshit

However i urge you to report this alleged insult to the administration team who i am sure will take swift action


ps your post


You started the insults with not being able to navigate my way out etc, so do pipe down little boy.
Nobody is denying you could find true north, it is about being able to replicate the accuracy on the ground to the affect of building such a building to the levels we see in the Great pyramid. You think it is easy based off just finding true north and running a line between two poles, where again you leave room for much error.
So you want to start being a rude ignorant twat with infantile abuse, fine by me.
Again I suggest you move on from finding true north because it is about mapping this accurately on the ground to not only build the pyramid but also the passageways themselves. So I suggest you move on and actually answer the points like  good little boy all of which you have missed many already throughout. Even ll the experts cannot say for sure how they mapped this out so accurately and you claim it is easy, showing you have not the first clue what you are talking about

Good luck

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:44 pm

Brasidas wrote:Again Korben has proved he is only back here for one reason to create as much shit as possible and with each post he keep proving it.
I mean ho wound must a person be to say they are amased I have survived this long?
Thank you Korben you are way too easy

Laughing
Your the one creating the shit dude, and i am amazed your obviously lacking in any real world experiance

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:46 pm

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:


well didge it aint me thats on fairy dust tonite......and i know Korben is strictly a weed man How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 1942856362   .....so....... How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3852033631

Well coco cola, and you say coke.
He is insecure to need artificial stimulants to make him feel better, a person happy does not need them, which speaks volumes about his issues

DUH!!!

I dont wish to disabuse you of your ack of knowledge didge...sice apparantly to do so is an insult...BUT

and I hate to have to point out this stunning lack of pharmaceutical wisdom

and it really seems unfair to contradict such an all encompassing mind

and I feel rotten having to show that your delusions about having a "truely competent mind" (and thus being a god) are wrong


BUT






weed isnt a stimulant........#facepalm

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:46 pm

korban dallas wrote:you sir obviously couldn't navigate your self out of a paper bag



not a insult what ever way you look at it
as usual your  full of bullshit

However i urge you to report this alleged insult to the administration team who i am sure will take swift action


ps your post


You started the insults with not being able to navigate my way out etc, so do pipe down little boy.
Nobody is denying you could find true north, it is about being able to replicate the accuracy on the ground to the affect of building such a building to the levels we see in the Great pyramid. You think it is easy based off just finding true north and running a line between two poles, where again you leave room for much error.
So you want to start being a rude ignorant twat with infantile abuse, fine by me.
Again I suggest you move on from finding true north because it is about mapping this accurately on the ground to not only build the pyramid but also the passageways themselves. So I suggest you move on and actually answer the points like  good little boy all of which you have missed many already throughout. Even ll the experts cannot say for sure how they mapped this out so accurately and you claim it is easy, showing you have not the first clue what you are talking about

Good luck


That is an insult no matter how much you attempt to deny it

Seriously are you claiming that is not an insult, then clearly you have allowed your love of the weed to mash with your reasoning it seems.
I mean why do you need artificial stimulants if you are married and have children, are they not all the love that any person could ever wish for?

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:46 pm

Brasidas wrote:
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well didge it aint me thats on fairy dust tonite......and i know Korben is strictly a weed man How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 1942856362   .....so....... How Was The Great Pyramid At Giza Constructed?  - Page 5 3852033631

Well coco cola, and you say coke.
He is insecure to need artificial stimulants to make him feel better, a person happy does not need them, which speaks volumes about his issues
Says the alcoholic smoker

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:47 pm

Brasidas wrote:
korban dallas wrote:you sir obviously couldn't navigate your self out of a paper bag



not a insult what ever way you look at it
as usual your  full of bullshit

However i urge you to report this alleged insult to the administration team who i am sure will take swift action


ps your post


You started the insults with not being able to navigate my way out etc, so do pipe down little boy.
Nobody is denying you could find true north, it is about being able to replicate the accuracy on the ground to the affect of building such a building to the levels we see in the Great pyramid. You think it is easy based off just finding true north and running a line between two poles, where again you leave room for much error.
So you want to start being a rude ignorant twat with infantile abuse, fine by me.
Again I suggest you move on from finding true north because it is about mapping this accurately on the ground to not only build the pyramid but also the passageways themselves. So I suggest you move on and actually answer the points like  good little boy all of which you have missed many already throughout. Even ll the experts cannot say for sure how they mapped this out so accurately and you claim it is easy, showing you have not the first clue what you are talking about

Good luck


That is an insult no matter how much you attempt to deny it

Seriously are you claiming that is not an insult, then clearly you have allowed your love of the weed to mash with your reasoning it seems.
I mean why do you need artificial stimulants if you are married and have children, are they not all the love that any person could ever wish for?  



WTF ?

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:48 pm

darknessss wrote:
Brasidas wrote:

Well coco cola, and you say coke.
He is insecure to need artificial stimulants to make him feel better, a person happy does not need them, which speaks volumes about his issues

DUH!!!

I dont wish to disabuse you of your ack of knowledge didge...sice apparantly to do so is an insult...BUT

and I hate to have to point out this stunning lack of pharmaceutical wisdom

and it really seems unfair to contradict such an all encompassing mind

and I feel rotten having to show that your delusions about having a "truely competent mind" (and thus being a god) are wrong


BUT






weed isnt a stimulant........#facepalm


Marijuana is complex chemically and not yet fully understood, but it is not a narcotic. Like alcohol, marijuana acts as both stimulant and depressant, but it lingers in body organs longer than alcohol. Smoking marijuana can injure mucosal tissue and may have more carcinogenic potential than tobacco. Research has indicated that marijuana intoxication definitely hinders attention, long-term memory storage, and psychomotor skills involved in driving a car or flying a plane. Expectations and past experience with marijuana have often influenced results more than pharmacological aspects have. Marijuana has triggered psychotic episodes in those more vulnerable. Psychological and some instances of physiological dependence on marijuana have been demonstrated. As a psychoactive drug, marijuana surely alters mental functioning. Although it is possible that chronic use of marijuana produces irreversible damage to mind or brain areas, this has not been determined by research.


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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:49 pm

korban dallas wrote:
Brasidas wrote:


That is an insult no matter how much you attempt to deny it

Seriously are you claiming that is not an insult, then clearly you have allowed your love of the weed to mash with your reasoning it seems.
I mean why do you need artificial stimulants if you are married and have children, are they not all the love that any person could ever wish for?  



WTF ?


You think you are a robot


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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:50 pm

korban dallas wrote:
Brasidas wrote:

Well coco cola, and you say coke.
He is insecure to need artificial stimulants to make him feel better, a person happy does not need them, which speaks volumes about his issues
Says the alcoholic smoker


An odd alcoholic which does not drink alcohol.
And now a non-smoker also.
Anything else junkie?
Do you smoke your gear in front of your children?

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:52 pm

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:

DUH!!!

I dont wish to disabuse you of your ack of knowledge didge...sice apparantly to do so is an insult...BUT

and I hate to have to point out this stunning lack of pharmaceutical wisdom

and it really seems unfair to contradict such an all encompassing mind

and I feel rotten having to show that your delusions about having a "truely competent mind" (and thus being a god) are wrong


BUT






weed isnt a stimulant........#facepalm


Marijuana is complex chemically and not yet fully understood, but it is not a narcotic. Like alcohol, marijuana acts as both stimulant and depressant, but it lingers in body organs longer than alcohol. Smoking marijuana can injure mucosal tissue and may have more carcinogenic potential than tobacco. Research has indicated that marijuana intoxication definitely hinders attention, long-term memory storage, and psychomotor skills involved in driving a car or flying a plane. Expectations and past experience with marijuana have often influenced results more than pharmacological aspects have. Marijuana has triggered psychotic episodes in those more vulnerable. Psychological and some instances of physiological dependence on marijuana have been demonstrated. As a psychoactive drug, marijuana surely alters mental functioning. Although it is possible that chronic use of marijuana produces irreversible damage to mind or brain areas, this has not been determined by research.


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yer...but in what ratio....ask the cops who they would sooner sweep up....a hop head or a pot head.....


I rather thing the "quieting effect" is rather more potent than the stimulant dont you???

I have yet to see two pot heads squaring off at each other....unlike hop heads....

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:54 pm

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:

DUH!!!

I dont wish to disabuse you of your ack of knowledge didge...sice apparantly to do so is an insult...BUT

and I hate to have to point out this stunning lack of pharmaceutical wisdom

and it really seems unfair to contradict such an all encompassing mind

and I feel rotten having to show that your delusions about having a "truely competent mind" (and thus being a god) are wrong


BUT






weed isnt a stimulant........#facepalm


Marijuana is complex chemically and not yet fully understood, but it is not a narcotic. Like alcohol, marijuana acts as both stimulant and depressant, but it lingers in body organs longer than alcohol. Smoking marijuana can injure mucosal tissue and may have more carcinogenic potential than tobacco. Research has indicated that marijuana intoxication definitely hinders attention, long-term memory storage, and psychomotor skills involved in driving a car or flying a plane. Expectations and past experience with marijuana have often influenced results more than pharmacological aspects have. Marijuana has triggered psychotic episodes in those more vulnerable. Psychological and some instances of physiological dependence on marijuana have been demonstrated. As a psychoactive drug, marijuana surely alters mental functioning. Although it is possible that chronic use of marijuana produces irreversible damage to mind or brain areas, this has not been determined by research.


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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:54 pm

darknessss wrote:
Brasidas wrote:


Marijuana is complex chemically and not yet fully understood, but it is not a narcotic. Like alcohol, marijuana acts as both stimulant and depressant, but it lingers in body organs longer than alcohol. Smoking marijuana can injure mucosal tissue and may have more carcinogenic potential than tobacco. Research has indicated that marijuana intoxication definitely hinders attention, long-term memory storage, and psychomotor skills involved in driving a car or flying a plane. Expectations and past experience with marijuana have often influenced results more than pharmacological aspects have. Marijuana has triggered psychotic episodes in those more vulnerable. Psychological and some instances of physiological dependence on marijuana have been demonstrated. As a psychoactive drug, marijuana surely alters mental functioning. Although it is possible that chronic use of marijuana produces irreversible damage to mind or brain areas, this has not been determined by research.


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yer...but in what ratio....ask the cops who they would sooner sweep up....a hop head or a pot head.....


I rather thing the "quieting effect" is rather more potent than the stimulant dont you???

I have yet to see two pot heads squaring off at each other....unlike hop heads....

Now after you made a whooping error you want to argue over criminality.
I do not thinking smoking joints is a crime, sadly some people need to smoke this to delude themselves it makes them happy. It is just a buzz, one that only accentuates your current mood.

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:56 pm

korban dallas wrote:
Brasidas wrote:


Marijuana is complex chemically and not yet fully understood, but it is not a narcotic. Like alcohol, marijuana acts as both stimulant and depressant, but it lingers in body organs longer than alcohol. Smoking marijuana can injure mucosal tissue and may have more carcinogenic potential than tobacco. Research has indicated that marijuana intoxication definitely hinders attention, long-term memory storage, and psychomotor skills involved in driving a car or flying a plane. Expectations and past experience with marijuana have often influenced results more than pharmacological aspects have. Marijuana has triggered psychotic episodes in those more vulnerable. Psychological and some instances of physiological dependence on marijuana have been demonstrated. As a psychoactive drug, marijuana surely alters mental functioning. Although it is possible that chronic use of marijuana produces irreversible damage to mind or brain areas, this has not been determined by research.


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Facts are facts, happy people do not need artificial stimulants to make them happy.
You do, which says you have many issues you lack the ability to face and instead poorly tried to block them out by smoking joints.

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:57 pm

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:

yer...but in what ratio....ask the cops who they would sooner sweep up....a hop head or a pot head.....


I rather thing the "quieting effect" is rather more potent than the stimulant dont you???

I have yet to see two pot heads squaring off at each other....unlike hop heads....

Now after you made a whooping error you want to argue over criminality.
I do not thinking smoking joints is a crime, sadly some people need to smoke this to delude themselves it makes them happy. It is just a buzz, one that only accentuates your current mood.
welll thats a start but please make a sepperate thread about this subject as i would be egear to discuss the subject with you

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:59 pm

One thing is apparent, the left wing gang are back to normal in their antics and nothing has thus changed from speakfree.
Thought better of you Victor, you are no better it seems.

Oh well it has been fun so I wish a good evening to all, except Eddie.

Night

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:01 am

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:

yer...but in what ratio....ask the cops who they would sooner sweep up....a hop head or a pot head.....


I rather thing the "quieting effect" is rather more potent than the stimulant dont you???

I have yet to see two pot heads squaring off at each other....unlike hop heads....

Now after you made a whooping error you want to argue over criminality.
nope....nothing in what i said suggests that...you are deflecting AGAIN

I said ...ask the cops who they would sooner sweep up...a hop head or a pot head...in reference to the ratio of its stimulany (will fight) to its depressent..."calming(wont fight) effect

DOH....

as an addition...why do you think the dutch prison authorities actually allow and condone the use of canabis in prison.....could it be because it keeps the prisoners hyped up and "lively" or because it keeps them calm and happy???


I do not thinking smoking joints is a crime, sadly some people need to smoke this to delude themselves it makes them happy. It is just a buzz, one that only accentuates your current mood.

really...and you would know that how???


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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:02 am

korban dallas wrote:
Brasidas wrote:

Now after you made a whooping error you want to argue over criminality.
I do not thinking smoking joints is a crime, sadly some people need to smoke this to delude themselves it makes them happy. It is just a buzz, one that only accentuates your current mood.
welll thats a start but please make a sepperate thread about this subject as i would be egear to discuss the subject with you


You want me to start a new thread, though you are happy to go on about alcohol here and excuse me of being an alcoholic when I do not even drink.
Best double standards I have seen to date.
I suggest you lead by example then Korben.
You would not want to discuss this with me, seriously, as I will mess with your head.
You can trust me on that.

Any how its been fun, so have a good evening

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:03 am

Brasidas wrote:One thing is apparent, the left wing gang are back to normal in their antics and nothing has thus changed from speakfree.
Thought better of you Victor, you are no better it seems.

Oh well it has been fun so I wish a good evening to all, except Eddie.

Night

paranoia is a terrible thing didge...i would get that seen to sharpish.....

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:06 am

darknessss wrote:
Brasidas wrote:

Now after you made a whooping error you want to argue over criminality.
nope....nothing in what i said suggests that...you are deflecting AGAIN

I said ...ask the cops who they would sooner sweep up...a hop head or a pot head...in reference to the ratio of its stimulany (will fight) to its depressent..."calming(wont fight) effect

DOH....

as an addition...why do you think the dutch prison authorities actually allow and condone the use of canabis in prison.....could it be because it keeps the prisoners hyped up and "lively" or because it keeps them calm and happy???


I do not thinking smoking joints is a crime, sadly some people need to smoke this to delude themselves it makes them happy. It is just a buzz, one that only accentuates your current mood.

really...and you would know that how???



You mean it keeps them monged.
Jesus wept, it would keep most people monged.
Again I have no reason to think this should be a criminal act, it should be made legal, but lets get some facts straight which it is you deflecting, it is a stimulant, people need to make them happy
Stop avoiding this fact.
Do not even go there on psychology Victor, that is my forte as you well know


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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:10 am

darknessss wrote:
Brasidas wrote:One thing is apparent, the left wing gang are back to normal in their antics and nothing has thus changed from speakfree.
Thought better of you Victor, you are no better it seems.

Oh well it has been fun so I wish a good evening to all, except Eddie.

Night

paranoia is a terrible thing didge...i would get that seen to sharpish.....

You proved this tonight Victor, old spots and all that, you have spot for wet lefties.
So no paranoia Victor.

Any how this is just like speakfree with threads being started and the same lame gang mentality

Night you old bugger

Laughing

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:10 am

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:

really...and you would know that how???



You mean it keeps them monged.
Jesus wept, it would keep most people monged.
Again I have no reason to think this should be a criminal act, it should be made legal, but lets get some facts straight which it is you deflecting, it is a stimulant, people need to make them happy
Stop avoiding this fact.
Do not even go there on psychology Victor, that is my forte as you well know

psychology doesnt belong here ...this is pharmacokinetics didge,,,,,besides you know how much i respect psychobabble the "faux science that can prove anything to order and to suit"

is nicotine a stimulant or a depressive?



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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:11 am

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:

paranoia is a terrible thing didge...i would get that seen to sharpish.....

You proved this tonight Victor, old spots and all that, you have spot for wet lefties.
So no paranoia Victor.

Any how this is just like speakfree with threads being started and the same lame gang mentality

Night you old bugger

Laughing  

no gang didge...just a group of folk who happen to think you have got your head in fantasy land....and are doing the one thing you hate.....contradicting you.....



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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:14 am

Brasidas wrote:One thing is apparent, the left wing gang are back to normal in their antics and nothing has thus changed from speakfree.
Thought better of you Victor, you are no better it seems.

Oh well it has been fun so I wish a good evening to all, except Eddie.

Night
Oh god dude don`t make its something its not i speak for my self have always done so your suspicions of some grand conspiracy is baseless

i was away for just under a year sassy as far as i am aware was never of line
i haven't spoken to her emailed her or fuck all

i am not or have ever have been in any  gang i am 52 not fucking 12

Even since i came back a couple of months ago i had hardly posted till this very thread i prove you wrong at every turn and you go back to your abuse and shit stirring paranoid fucking shit dragged up when your shown to be a fucking fool a liar and a shit stirring argumentative uneducated twat that you are that you are (OOoooo there all picking on me boo hooo hooo its the sassy gang its the irn gang its the korban gang its the victor gang its the libel gang )its any people who disagree with you on a subject gang multiple people put you straight and you accuse the of ganging up on you

go on you have a alleged degree in "psychology " what does that say about you paranoid delusional,insecure unsure combative when challenged abusive prone to delusions
unable to deal with the real world and imagines lost technology and hidden or lost tech



pretty plain to see what that means
you should be locked up for your own safety and thouse about you

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:29 am

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:

really...and you would know that how???



You mean it keeps them monged.
Jesus wept, it would keep most people monged.
Again I have no reason to think this should be a criminal act, it should be made legal, but lets get some facts straight which it is you deflecting, it is a stimulant, people need to make them happy
Stop avoiding this fact.
Do not even go there on psychology Victor, that is my forte as you well know


Good night
Allegedly.....but have to admit don`t see any evidence of that in your posts or manner of communicating  with other ,you would think you would be better at it than you obviously are and given my previous points i suspect its just mor bullshit internet credentials are never that impressive

i have a obe cbe.kbe BA phd abcd and a B&Q discount card in spotting bullshit and you Pall shine like a star
i

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:32 am

hey Korban

want an idea of how they egyptians managed to move them slabs????


http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/physicists-figure-how-ancient-egyptians-moved-pyramid-stones/

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:36 am

I rest my case on Korben, seriously how wound up is that boy.

Sorry Victor you may not be a gang but they are and ways have been, as they cannot fend for themselves.
Look at how Korben replies, the most infantile attempts to goad, he complains about a subject that involves him, asks to start a new topic yet does the same himself.
It shows up his failings and insecurities, as you know me, I really am not concerned over people like Korben, who I take as a play thing. It is the real bitches I dislike that use posters for their infantile feuds with each other, which they never move on from.


Anyway Korben is too easy and reacts every time, so is no fun really


Laters

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:43 am

darknessss wrote:hey Korban

want an idea of how they egyptians managed to move them slabs????


http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/physicists-figure-how-ancient-egyptians-moved-pyramid-stones/


I wonder how the ancients move slabs like these then Victor, this one weighs in excess of 1000 tonnes, where 3 make up the base of a temple at Baalbek, wonder if your theory would work there then


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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:46 am

darknessss wrote:hey Korban

want an idea of how they egyptians managed to move them slabs????


http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/physicists-figure-how-ancient-egyptians-moved-pyramid-stones/
Mmmmm interesting

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