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Post by Original Quill Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:55 am

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This is just in...a Malaysia 777 Airliner, bound from Kuala Lampur to Bejing, has disappeared somewhere over Ho Chi Min airspace.

Just broke, so that's all I have.

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Post by gerber Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:40 pm

Goddam it VOD you are bang on........................


Real photos or what the Malaysian authorities wanted the world to see......


Do you drive a Ka perchance............

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:46 pm

Its what they posted

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:02 pm

gerber wrote:Goddam it VOD you are bang on........................


Real photos or what the Malaysian authorities wanted the world to see......


Do you drive a Ka perchance............

Vodka   cheers  cheers

Gawd help us Gerbs, go to the bit to the right of the picture that says go to page (which it was originally on), loads of photos of them travelling together, and with other lads.

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Post by gerber Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:14 pm

Sassy wrote:
gerber wrote:Goddam it VOD you are bang on........................


Real photos or what the Malaysian authorities wanted the world to see......


Do you drive a Ka perchance............

Vodka   cheers  cheers

Gawd help us Gerbs, go to the bit to the right of the picture that says go to page (which it was originally on), loads of photos of them travelling together, and with other lads.


To coin a phrase gawd .................  Are they looking for the one in the middle ?

Thanks to VOD BTW for the link.......  Does the one to the left have an Austrian appearance, the one to the right could be italian.... even though they are stolen passports.
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:21 pm

Sassy wrote:
VOD(original) wrote:


their legs are the same on both of them  Suspect 

Yes VOD, and if you click on the bit that says go to page, you will see photos of them with other people, they were travelling together, looks like they are wearing a type of 'uniform', perhaps they were part of a group.

I did follow the link , i don't know what to make of them .

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:33 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
Sassy wrote:

Yes VOD, and if you click on the bit that says go to page, you will see photos of them with other people, they were travelling together, looks like they are wearing a type of 'uniform', perhaps they were part of a group.

I did follow the link , i don't know what to make of them .

There are lots of people I don't know what to make of when I see them in the street wearing weird clothes, they are all entirely innocent though.

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Post by gerber Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:39 pm

Sassy wrote:
VOD(original) wrote:

I did follow the link , i don't know what to make of them .

There are lots of people I don't know what to make of when I see them in the street wearing weird clothes, they are all entirely innocent though.


fair comment.   But whenever I travel on the London tube and a Burka clad female is carrying a rucksack innocent though it will be I always now move as far away as possible.........
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:03 pm


'Deliberate Action' Diverted Missing Plane
The pilot's house is reportedly searched as Malaysia's PM says communications on the flight were almost certainly disabled.

"Deliberate action" diverted the missing Malaysia Airlines plane after its communications were cut, according to Malaysia's Prime Minister.

Najib Razak was speaking shortly before it was reported the pilot's house was being searched by police.

At a packed news conference, Mr Razak stopped short of saying flight MH370 had been hijacked, despite a government official earlier saying this was the case.

Mr Razak stressed "all possibilities" were being looked into try and resolve the mystery surrounding the flight's fate. It left Kuala Lumpur last Saturday bound for Beijing with 239 people on board.

Shortly after he finished speaking, officers began searching the house of 53-year-old pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, Reuters reported. The official said they had gone to collect evidence that could help with the investigation.

The final satellite communication with the Boeing 777 came more than six and a half hours after it disappeared from civilian radar at 1.30am local time on March 8 (5.30pm UK time the previous day), Mr Razak confirmed at the briefing.

In this period the aircraft changed direction and passed back over the Malaysian peninsula towards the Indian Ocean.

Data confirmed an unidentified aircraft that later appeared on military radar off Malaysia's west coast before going out of range at 2.15am was MH370.

"Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane," Mr Razak said.

The search, which involves 14 countries, 43 ships and 58 aircraft, now encompasses two "corridors".

The first is a northern corridor from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan through to northern Thailand, and the second is a southern corridor from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean.

The plane first lost contact with air traffic controllers in the South China Sea, and Mr Razak said the search there would be called off.

He said: "Clearly the search for MH370 has entered a new phase. We hope this new information brings us one step closer to finding the plane."

Earlier, a source close to the investigation said satellite pulses picked up from the flight show it may have been flying off-course for several hours before running out of fuel over the Indian Ocean.

Analysis of military radar tracking and pulses has provided two different theories as to what may have happened to the plane, the unnamed source said.
Muslims perform a special prayer for passengers of the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 plane at Kuala Lumpur International Airport

The electronic signals are believed to have been transmitted for up to five hours after ground control lost contact with the aircraft, according to Sky sources.

The signals are 'pings' sent by the plane to confirm it is still there and to allow the network to determine its position.

The source close to the investigation said the most likely possibility is that after travelling northwest, the Boeing 777 made a sharp turn to the south, over the Indian Ocean where officials think, based on the data, it flew until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea.

The other interpretation is the plane continued to fly to the northwest and headed over Indian territory.

But the source said it was believed unlikely the plane flew for any length of time over India because that country has strong air defence and radar coverage which should have allowed authorities to see the plane.

Malaysia's acting transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein has confirmed the search had been expanded into the Indian Ocean - on the opposite side of Malaysia from where contact was lost seven days ago.

http://news.sky.com/story/1226362/deliberate-action-diverted-missing-plane

Well, if it did that, no wonder the Malaysian authorities couldn't find it, it went right off their radar charts into international air space within a few hours.

This must have been planned in meticulous detail by someone with a very good knowledge of flight paths and radar etc.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:31 pm

It now becomes more and more likely that it was an inside job, one paper who talked about a terrorist recruiter implied even pilots have been recruited, so perhaps this pilot is one of them and they have the whole plane safely snatched away, quite a trophy, either financially or for future misuse...

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:47 pm

gerber wrote:
Sassy wrote:

There are lots of people I don't know what to make of when I see them in the street wearing weird clothes, they are all entirely innocent though.


fair comment.   But whenever I travel on the London tube and a Burka clad female is carrying a rucksack innocent though it will be I always now move as far away as possible.........
so do i and its sad that we are now very cautious , but its the world we now live in .

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Post by Original Quill Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:27 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:It now becomes more and more likely that it was an inside job, one paper who talked about a terrorist recruiter implied even pilots have been recruited, so perhaps this pilot is one of them and they have the whole plane safely snatched away, quite a trophy, either financially or for future misuse...

Yes, the signature on this thing is of an insider, not a terrorist (in the sense of al Qaeda or Hamas).  To turn off the transponder is a simple matter of a switch on the console.  But to turn off the status data bursts, one has to disengage a circuit breaker on a panel thick with breakers...you would have to know which one precisely, and where.

The plane elevated to 45,000-feet, 3,000-feet above the safe ceiling.  This was probably done to kill all the passengers.

It is said the plane might have continued on for as much as 10-hours, giving a search circumference of 4,500-miles.  She could easily have landed in Yemen or Australia to the south.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:32 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:It now becomes more and more likely that it was an inside job, one paper who talked about a terrorist recruiter implied even pilots have been recruited, so perhaps this pilot is one of them and they have the whole plane safely snatched away, quite a trophy, either financially or for future misuse...

Yes, the signature on this thing is of an insider, not a terrorist (in the sense of al Qaeda or Hamas).  To turn off the transponder is a simple matter of a switch on the console.  But to turn off the status data bursts, one has to disengage a circuit breaker on a panel thick with breakers...you would have to know which one precisely, and where.

The plane elevated to 45,000-feet, 3,000-feet above the safe ceiling.  This was probably done to kill all the passengers.

It is said the plane might have continued on for as much as 10-hours, giving a search circumference of 4,500-miles.  She could easily have landed in Yemen or Australia to the south.

all very cold and calculating, I wonder when or if we will ever see the actual point of it all..

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:48 pm

Critically, flight MH370 vanished in a so-called 'dead space' area when Malaysian air traffic controllers handed over control to their Vietnamese counterparts.

John Lindsay, former head of air safety at British Airways, said this would have been the "ideal" time to take over the aircraft "because it would give a period of time when no one was aware of what the aircraft was doing".

He said this and the disabling of the plane's transponders - which transmit data on a plane's location to air traffic controllers - suggest it was well-planned.

"It seems to be more than just a strong coincidence that the loss of contact with the aircraft happened at the point of hand-over," he told Sky News.

"(Also) there's a lot of (communication) equipment on there, most of which operates automatically, and to disable particularly the ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) it would need some preparation and forethought.

"It's quite doable, but it's not something the pilots would have been trained to do, whereas the air traffic control transponder is something that is routinely switched on and off as required.

"But the ACARS are a different matter as are the sat coms. These things would have required some preparation and forethought about how they were going to be accomplished and when they were going to be accomplished."

He said it was "inconceivable" that someone in the passenger cabin would know the critical point at which the aircraft was being handed over to Vietnamese control.

This suggests either the collusion of the crew or someone in the flight deck when hand-over occurred.

Former BA pilot Alastair Rosenschein told Sky News it is "looking more likely" that the plane was hijacked.

"What is puzzling is the fact that the ACARS and the transponder appear to have been disabled or switched off or become unworkable at separate times," he said.

http://news.sky.com/story/1226493/missing-plane-hijack-increasingly-likely

So someone knew where the handover point was, obviously an experience pilot.

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Post by eddie Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:56 pm

What have these hijackers to gain, though?
If they killed all,the passengers on board what exactly is there to barter with?
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Post by gerber Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:00 pm

Sassy wrote:Critically, flight MH370 vanished in a so-called 'dead space' area when Malaysian air traffic controllers handed over control to their Vietnamese counterparts.

John Lindsay, former head of air safety at British Airways, said this would have been the "ideal" time to take over the aircraft "because it would give a period of time when no one was aware of what the aircraft was doing".

He said this and the disabling of the plane's transponders - which transmit data on a plane's location to air traffic controllers - suggest it was well-planned.

"It seems to be more than just a strong coincidence that the loss of contact with the aircraft happened at the point of hand-over," he told Sky News.

"(Also) there's a lot of (communication) equipment on there, most of which operates automatically, and to disable particularly the ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) it would need some preparation and forethought.

"It's quite doable, but it's not something the pilots would have been trained to do, whereas the air traffic control transponder is something that is routinely switched on and off as required.

"But the ACARS are a different matter as are the sat coms. These things would have required some preparation and forethought about how they were going to be accomplished and when they were going to be accomplished."

He said it was "inconceivable" that someone in the passenger cabin would know the critical point at which the aircraft was being handed over to Vietnamese control.

This suggests either the collusion of the crew or someone in the flight deck when hand-over occurred.

Former BA pilot Alastair Rosenschein told Sky News it is "looking more likely" that the plane was hijacked.

"What is puzzling is the fact that the ACARS and the transponder appear to have been disabled or switched off or become unworkable at separate times," he said.

http://news.sky.com/story/1226493/missing-plane-hijack-increasingly-likely

So someone knew where the handover point was, obviously an experience pilot.  


Just read that too, but also the comments....... One asked Sky why names had not been released

had a firtle and found this................................  Worth reading th link, too much to add to thread.

" Military intelligence is heavily involved in Malaysia Airlines 370, but contradicting itself and denying the public from needed information, thus increasing speculations officials are unauthorized by the military to disclose the craft’s whereabouts and intel by 25 high-tech passengers, employed by five major defense contractor technology companies, was liekly valued enough to seize the plane.
        Two Chinese companies represented on the plane’s manifest list are declared U.S. national security risk due to its spying with backdoor computer technology. Congress ousted them from business in the U.S. and warned American companies to halt busines with them, only two of five such companies tight with military. 


http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014/03/spies-on-missing-malaysia-airline-plane-5-major-defense-contractor-companies-26-intel-passengers-2432766.html
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:01 pm

Don't get it at all, but they obviously had a landing place prepared, they were very au fait with radar routes and communication systems. The worst possible scenario is that they are going to fill it with explosive and use it as a flying bomb, but to do that they would have to have a way of refueling it, and all radar systems are going to be on the lookout for it now.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:02 pm

gerber wrote:
Sassy wrote:Critically, flight MH370 vanished in a so-called 'dead space' area when Malaysian air traffic controllers handed over control to their Vietnamese counterparts.

John Lindsay, former head of air safety at British Airways, said this would have been the "ideal" time to take over the aircraft "because it would give a period of time when no one was aware of what the aircraft was doing".

He said this and the disabling of the plane's transponders - which transmit data on a plane's location to air traffic controllers - suggest it was well-planned.

"It seems to be more than just a strong coincidence that the loss of contact with the aircraft happened at the point of hand-over," he told Sky News.

"(Also) there's a lot of (communication) equipment on there, most of which operates automatically, and to disable particularly the ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) it would need some preparation and forethought.

"It's quite doable, but it's not something the pilots would have been trained to do, whereas the air traffic control transponder is something that is routinely switched on and off as required.

"But the ACARS are a different matter as are the sat coms. These things would have required some preparation and forethought about how they were going to be accomplished and when they were going to be accomplished."

He said it was "inconceivable" that someone in the passenger cabin would know the critical point at which the aircraft was being handed over to Vietnamese control.

This suggests either the collusion of the crew or someone in the flight deck when hand-over occurred.

Former BA pilot Alastair Rosenschein told Sky News it is "looking more likely" that the plane was hijacked.

"What is puzzling is the fact that the ACARS and the transponder appear to have been disabled or switched off or become unworkable at separate times," he said.

http://news.sky.com/story/1226493/missing-plane-hijack-increasingly-likely

So someone knew where the handover point was, obviously an experience pilot.  


Just read that too, but also the comments....... One asked Sky why names had not been released

had a firtle and found this................................  Worth reading th link, too much to add to thread.

" Military intelligence is heavily involved in Malaysia Airlines 370, but contradicting itself and denying the public from needed information, thus increasing speculations officials are unauthorized by the military to disclose the craft’s whereabouts and intel by 25 high-tech passengers, employed by five major defense contractor technology companies, was liekly valued enough to seize the plane.
        Two Chinese companies represented on the plane’s manifest list are declared U.S. national security risk due to its spying with backdoor computer technology. Congress ousted them from business in the U.S. and warned American companies to halt busines with them, only two of five such companies tight with military. 


http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014/03/spies-on-missing-malaysia-airline-plane-5-major-defense-contractor-companies-26-intel-passengers-2432766.html

Good grief!

China Telecom executive Hualian “Happy” Zhang, network planning vice president for China Telecom Global, is on the passenger manifest, number 207. Zhang was reportedly returning from Kuala Lumpur after signing a construction/maintenance agreement for Sea-Me-We-5, a submarine cable to stretch 20,000 km from Singapore to Europe. Fiber optic cables are of prime importance to U.S. military, NSA and intelligence agencies, with expanding operations requiring more and more bandwidth for spying and other operations. (Dana Priest, William Arkin,Top Secret America: The Rise of The New American Security State)

ZTE employee Li Yanlin, an engineer who is part of the company’s telecom gear installation and maintenance team boarded the plane. In May, 2010, India banned telecommunications firms from importing from ZTE and any other Chinese networking equipment companies due to fears that they were riddled with information-stealing spyware.


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Post by eddie Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:06 pm

Can someone please simplify?  scratch 
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Post by eddie Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:03 pm

Channel 5+

The plane that's vanished Live

On now
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:13 pm

OK will try. The plane flew on it proper route towards China until it reached the point that the Vietnamese radar would take over from Malaysia, when it is in 'no mans land'. At that point the transponder that links it to radar systems was turned off. The military radar, that doesn't need the transponder, detected it turning and heading back across Malaysia towards the Indian Ocean. At some point just after the transponder was turned off the ACAR system (another communications system) was turned off as well, which is not as easy to do as turning off the transponder, which is often done. However, the aircraft could not stop the electronic 'ping' that said it was still in the air detected by the satellite systems, which showed it still responding for another six hours. This can only happen if the plane was flying. Who ever did this had to know what they were doing and when the aircraft reached the take over point with Vietnam, the only time something could happen in its flight path without anyone realising.

On top of that, it now appears that some of the people on board are linked to military communications companies and a chinese company that has been accused of system hacking.

Curiouser and Curiouser. Hope I have it right and hope it helps.

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Post by eddie Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:15 pm

Claimed that 5 passengers checked in but never boarded
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:17 pm

Keep me posted of anything that stands out Eddie, OH watching something else lol It happens, but 5 is quite a lot I think.

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Post by eddie Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:04 pm

Sassy wrote:OK will try.   The plane flew on it proper route towards China until it reached the point that the Vietnamese radar would take over from Malaysia, when it is in 'no mans land'.   At that point the transponder that links it to radar systems was turned off.   The military radar, that doesn't need the transponder, detected it turning and heading back across Malaysia towards the Indian Ocean.   At some point just after the transponder was turned off the ACAR system (another communications system) was turned off as well, which is not as easy to do as turning off the transponder, which is often done.    However, the aircraft could not stop the electronic 'ping' that said it was still in the air detected by the satellite systems, which showed it still responding for another six hours.   This can only happen if the plane was flying.   Who ever did this had to know what they were doing and when the aircraft reached the take over point with Vietnam, the only time something could happen in its flight path without anyone realising.  

On top of that, it now appears that some of the people on board are linked to military communications companies and a chinese company that has been accused of system hacking.

Curiouser and Curiouser.   Hope I have it right and hope it helps.

Right ok thanks sassy! I has gathered it almost right then lol, not as stupid as I thought I was  cheers 
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Post by eddie Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:07 pm

Sassy wrote:Keep me posted of anything that stands out Eddie, OH watching something else lol   It happens, but 5 is quite a lot I think.

Nothing stood out sass, all the stuff that papers have covered (and here lol)
Two experts, one of them a terrorist expert, claimed that it was possibly cyber hijacking and an old ex-pilot expert, said he thought it was a windscreen or similar cracking and the plane suffering decompression and thereby crashing into the sea.

One thing that stood out was the whole secrecy of USA search planes now looking in the Indian Ocean?
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:16 pm

Well I think the windscreen cracking thing can be discounted because the 'pings' meant they knew it was still flying.

I'm beginning to have my suspicions that this is something to do with communications hacking etc and America had info about it that they didn't want to let out.

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Post by eddie Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:32 am

Saw this on posted on flap:

http://www.infowars.com/flight-370-passengers-may-still-be-alive-pirated-boeing-777-may-return-to-skies-as-stealth-nuclear-weapon/
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:48 am

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Godisgoodallthetime wrote:It now becomes more and more likely that it was an inside job, one paper who talked about a terrorist recruiter implied even pilots have been recruited, so perhaps this pilot is one of them and they have the whole plane safely snatched away, quite a trophy, either financially or for future misuse...

Yes, the signature on this thing is of an insider, not a terrorist (in the sense of al Qaeda or Hamas).  To turn off the transponder is a simple matter of a switch on the console.  But to turn off the status data bursts, one has to disengage a circuit breaker on a panel thick with breakers...you would have to know which one precisely, and where.

The plane elevated to 45,000-feet, 3,000-feet above the safe ceiling.  This was probably done to kill all the passengers.

It is said the plane might have continued on for as much as 10-hours, giving a search circumference of 4,500-miles.  She could easily have landed in Yemen or Australia to the south.


i wonder if transponders can be re rigged to give a signal of an existing plane, otherwise if they use the plane again it might be easily spotted, though it would probably be dismissed..

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Post by David Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:08 pm

eddie wrote:Saw this on posted on flap:

http://www.infowars.com/flight-370-passengers-may-still-be-alive-pirated-boeing-777-may-return-to-skies-as-stealth-nuclear-weapon/
That is what makes me think it has been hijacked because if it had crashed or exploded the black boxes would have started to transmit signals...
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Post by eddie Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:52 pm

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eddie wrote:Saw this on posted on flap:

http://www.infowars.com/flight-370-passengers-may-still-be-alive-pirated-boeing-777-may-return-to-skies-as-stealth-nuclear-weapon/
That is what makes me think it has been hijacked because if it had crashed or exploded the black boxes would have started to transmit signals...

I tend to agree. This article says that the hijackers will use the plane at a letter date as a nuclear weapon  Shocked 
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:59 pm

Flight MH370: last message to Malaysia sent 'after communications disabled'
Revelation suggests person who delivered 'All right, good night' message from missing plane knew system had been shut down.

The person in control of missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 issued their last communication to air traffic control after the first set of aircraft communications was disabled, Malaysian authorities have confirmed, adding further weight to suspicion that the plane was hijacked.

The latest revelation suggests that the person who delivered the "All right, good night" message to Kuala Lumpur air traffic controllers just before the Boeing-777 disappeared from their radar at 1.22am and diverted from its scheduled flightpath to Beijing was also aware that the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (Acars) had been manually shut down.

Investigations still do not appear to know who was at the helm and what their intentions were when the aircraft disappeared from civilian radar more than a week ago.

Experts on aircraft maintenance have explained that the plane's communications system can only be disabled manually – a process that requires switching a number of cockpit controls in sequence until a computer screen necessitates a keyboard input (not disengaging a circuit breaker on a panel thick with breakers as has been inferred).

Authorities have not yet disclosed whether the person who issued the last message to controllers was Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, or co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27, or an unknown third person. It is also unclear if such messages are recorded by air traffic control and are available for expert analysis to determine who the voice belongs to.....

There are 25 countries assisting in the search, said Malaysia's defence and acting transport minister, Hishammuddin Hussein – raising the additional challenges of co-ordinating ground, sea and aerial efforts as well as the delicate diplomatic issue of sharing significant sensitive information, from satellite data to primary and secondary radar playback, as well as any ground, sea and aerial co-ordination efforts.

"This is a significant recalibration of the search," Hishammuddin told reporters on Sunday. "From focusing mainly on shallow seas, we are now looking at large tracts of land, crossing 11 countries, as well as deep and remote oceans.

The search was already a highly complex, multinational effort. It has now become even more difficult."


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/16/flight-mh370-last-message-communications-disabled-malaysia

Apparently the captain and his co-pilot had not requested to work together, ruling out it being a plot between them.

It also appears Malaysian authorities are having trouble getting background details on some passengers and the authorities concerned are being very slow at handing it over.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:21 pm

eddie wrote:
David wrote:
That is what makes me think it has been hijacked because if it had crashed or exploded the black boxes would have started to transmit signals...

I tend to agree. This article says that the hijackers will use the plane at a letter date as a nuclear weapon  Shocked 

I read that article wow it's scary stuff i hope the passengers and crew are still alive

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Post by eddie Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:22 pm

If the plane has been hijacked and not used YET, that suggest it will be used at some later date.....
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:25 pm

eddie wrote:If the plane has been hijacked and not used YET, that suggest it will be used at some later date.....

it could yet be the biggest terrorist threat yet depending on what they fill it with and where they use it...

besides the obvious explosives, viruses could be devastating...

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:26 pm

It mentions the mobile phones receiving calls which has always suggested to me that the plane did land . I do think the authorities are keeping quiet and know much much more then they are letting on maybe for the safety of the passengers who knows , the whole thing is bizarre

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:27 pm

I think they have said exactly what they know, which is why 25 countries are helping look for it.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:30 pm

VOD(original) wrote:It mentions the mobile phones receiving calls which has always suggested to me that the plane did land . I do think the authorities are keeping quiet and know much much more then they are letting on maybe for the safety of the passengers who knows , the whole thing is bizarre

let's face it if they get to a terrorist sympathetic country it will be hidden away and no one will ever know...

still fear for the passengers though.. Sad 

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:31 pm


we don't know we are just guessing like everyone else , i feel for the families it must be agony .

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:42 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
we don't know we are just guessing like everyone else , i feel for the families it must be agony .

I agree, not knowing is the worse thing, you cannot underline it so to speak and even try to move on..

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Post by eddie Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:43 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
eddie wrote:If the plane has been hijacked and not used YET, that suggest it will be used at some later date.....

it could yet be the biggest terrorist threat yet depending on what they fill it with and where they use it...

besides the obvious explosives, viruses could be devastating...

And where would it be headed to??  pale 
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:49 pm

eddie wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

it could yet be the biggest terrorist threat yet depending on what they fill it with and where they use it...

besides the obvious explosives, viruses could be devastating...

And where would it be headed to??  pale 

It doesn't bare thinking about does it... Shocked affraid pale 

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:49 pm

Are you lot trying to frighten yourselves to death?  Shocked  No-one has the slightest idea at the moment why it was taken, you really are winding each other up!

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:07 pm

Sassy wrote:Are you lot trying to frighten yourselves to death?  Shocked   No-one has the slightest idea at the moment why it was taken, you really are winding each other up!

lol... good point... Smile 

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Post by Original Quill Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:23 pm

Obviously, whoever did this has gone to great pains not to destroy the aircraft. The passengers are probably not so lucky, but the idea that someone turned off the transponder and went to great trouble to remove the circuit breaker for the ACAR signal, means that the intent was not merely to fly into the Indian Ocean just for kicks.

Someone was hiding the aircraft and it's destination for some purpose. And if the craft has landed on terra firma, someone also saw the aircraft come down.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:29 pm

Original Quill wrote:Obviously, whoever did this has gone to great pains not to destroy the aircraft.  The passengers are probably not so lucky, but the idea that someone turned off the transponder and went to great trouble to remove the circuit breaker for the ACAR signal, means that the intent was not merely to fly into the Indian Ocean just for kicks.  

Someone was hiding the aircraft and it's destination for some purpose.  And if the craft has landed on terra firma, someone also saw the aircraft come down.

i have to agree, they went to a lot of trouble to acquire it so you can only wonder to what ends.. Shocked 

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:31 pm

Experts on aircraft maintenance have explained that the plane's communications system can only be disabled manually – a process that requires switching a number of cockpit controls in sequence until a computer screen necessitates a keyboard input (not disengaging a circuit breaker on a panel thick with breakers as has been inferred).

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:34 pm

Sassy wrote:Experts on aircraft maintenance have explained that the plane's communications system can only be disabled manually – a process that requires switching a number of cockpit controls in sequence until a computer screen necessitates a keyboard input (not disengaging a circuit breaker on a panel thick with breakers as has been inferred).

Not straight forward then...does it say if the keyboard entry coded??

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