Refugee Refuses High Rise Flat - Takes Council To Court - Can't Speak Any English

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7th March 2014

Who gave this non-English-speaking REFUGEE the idea that she can take the council to court???

Due to give birth too - how timely.

A refugee took a council to the High Court when she turned down their offer of a high rise council house claiming she was scared of heights. Somalian Naima Mohamoud, who does not speak any English, claims she is separated from her husband and said she was thrown out of friend's house when she told them she was due to give birth. She applied for council accommodation and signed a form agreeing that if she refused an offer of a home she would not get another. Ms Mahamoud was given the chance to move into a tower block, by Birmingham City Council.


http://www.courtnewsuk.co.uk/newsgallery/#sthash.01Mhvqns.dpuf

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Oh, so she did understand the system then. Make up your mind.

The fact is that she came from a place which she said was dangerous, and then turned her nose up when she was offered a roof over her head. I'm tired of this kind of crap.

CAB understood the system for her.

Let's hope she learns to speak English now she's here.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

She's by herself.   As she was granted asylum, poor sod was probably raped.  

That's quite a leap. Do you have any evidence that she was raped?

She has a husband but is "separated" from him apparently.

And?

She wouldn't be given asylum for separating from her husband. Something bad happened to her for her to be allowed asylum.

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That's quite a leap. Do you have any evidence that she was raped?

She has a husband but is "separated" from him apparently.

And?

She wouldn't be given asylum for separating from her husband.   Something bad happened to her for her to be allowed asylum.

Presumably so, and yet being given a free flat to live in wasn't good enough for her was it?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

CAB understood the system for her.

Let's hope she learns to speak English now she's here.

I think she stands more chance of learning English than you do of learning empathy.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:


And?

She wouldn't be given asylum for separating from her husband.   Something bad happened to her for her to be allowed asylum.

Presumably so, and yet being given a free flat to live in wasn't good enough for her was it?

So you want to make yourself look a twat and have to be told of the misunderstanding yet again? Were you like it at school?

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Let's hope she learns to speak English now she's here.

I think she stands more chance of learning English than you do of learning empathy.

And even more chance than you learning some manners.

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Presumably so, and yet being given a free flat to live in wasn't good enough for her was it?

So you want to make yourself look a twat and have to be told of the misunderstanding yet again?   Were you like it at school?

There was no misunderstanding. She was offered a flat which she didn't like, and she turned it down. What were you like at school? I bet you sat at the back disrupting the class and telling the teacher he/she was wrong.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

I think she stands more chance of learning English than you do of learning empathy.

And even more chance than you learning some manners.

Are you Torquay's answer to a dominatrix, you are so much like Sybil Fawlty!

 ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: 

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

And even more chance than you learning some manners.

Are you Torquay's answer to a dominatrix, you are so much like Sybil Fawlty!

 ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: 

I don't live in Torquay. You should do something about your bad memory.

Stooo always used to get annoyed about that program, because it's the nightmare that he's living in. you old bossy boots you!

Catman wrote:Stooo always used to get annoyed about that program, because it's the nightmare that he's living in. you old bossy boots you!

Don't lie.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:

Are you Torquay's answer to a dominatrix, you are so much like Sybil Fawlty!

 ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: 

I don't live in Torquay. You should do something about your bad memory.

Well Stooo lives there!

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't live in Torquay. You should do something about your bad memory.

Well Stooo lives there!

So? That's nothing to do with this subject.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:Stooo always used to get annoyed about that program, because it's the nightmare that he's living in. you old bossy boots you!

Don't lie.

I'm not!

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

So you want to make yourself look a twat and have to be told of the misunderstanding yet again?   Were you like it at school?

There was no misunderstanding. She was offered a flat which she didn't like, and she turned it down. What were you like at school? I bet you sat at the back disrupting the class and telling the teacher he/she was wrong.

Shall we say this slowly if it helps. SHE THOUGHT SHE HAD THE CHOICE OF THREE, AS THE JUDGE ACKNOWLEDGED, OTHERWISE SHE WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED THE FLAT.

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Don't lie.

I'm not!

Yes you are.

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

There was no misunderstanding. She was offered a flat which she didn't like, and she turned it down. What were you like at school? I bet you sat at the back disrupting the class and telling the teacher he/she was wrong.

Shall we say this slowly if it helps.   SHE THOUGHT SHE HAD THE CHOICE OF THREE, AS THE JUDGE ACKNOWLEDGED, OTHERWISE SHE WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED THE FLAT.

I bet you're screeching at the computer aren't you?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:

Well Stooo lives there!

So? That's nothing to do with this subject.

OK, you've admitted to the fact then!

  

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

So? That's nothing to do with this subject.

OK, you've admitted to the fact then!

  

What fact?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

I think she stands more chance of learning English than you do of learning empathy.

And even more chance than you learning some manners.

That's not bad manners, that's sarcasm lol

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

And even more chance than you learning some manners.

That's not bad manners, that's sarcasm lol

Where's the sarcasm?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Shall we say this slowly if it helps.   SHE THOUGHT SHE HAD THE CHOICE OF THREE, AS THE JUDGE ACKNOWLEDGED, OTHERWISE SHE WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED THE FLAT.

I bet you're screeching at the computer aren't you?

No, I'm thinking why am I having a conversation with someone who it so patently stupid.

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I bet you're screeching at the computer aren't you?

No, I'm thinking why am I having a conversation with someone who it so patently stupid.

Stop talking to yourself then.

Hey Rags!

Who does that remind you of?

*snigger*

What fact Catman?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

That's not bad manners, that's sarcasm lol

Where's the sarcasm?

I think that proves my point. Lol, I'll come back when someone worth talking to is around.

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Where's the sarcasm?

I think that proves my point.   Lol, I'll come back when someone worth talking to is around.

Well Catman isn't worth talking to, I agree.

Come back when you've calmed down and learnt some manners.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:

OK, you've admitted to the fact then!

  

What fact?

Last that i heard, you were living with Stooo in Torquay...He runs a pub there!

I seem to remember one particular spat that you had with him on the dogs forum, he suggested that you have never paid bills or anything!

  ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: 

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

I think that proves my point.   Lol, I'll come back when someone worth talking to is around.

Well Catman isn't worth talking to, I agree.

Come back when you've calmed down and learnt some manners.

Aren't you living with Stooo anymore then?

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

What fact?

Last that i heard, you were living with Stooo in Torquay...He runs a pub there!

I seem to remember one particular spat that you had with him on the dogs forum, he suggested that you have never paid bills or anything!

  ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: 

Well you heard wrong. Try to find something useful to do rather than gossip about people's private lives.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

I think that proves my point.   Lol, I'll come back when someone worth talking to is around.

Well Catman isn't worth talking to, I agree.

Come back when you've calmed down and learnt some manners.

Oh, I'm very calm, and my manners are impeccable, however, my patience with fools only lasts so long and you are boring me now. Toodle pip old thing.

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Well Catman isn't worth talking to, I agree.

Come back when you've calmed down and learnt some manners.

Aren't you living with Stooo anymore then?

Haven't you got a job yet?

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Well Catman isn't worth talking to, I agree.

Come back when you've calmed down and learnt some manners.

Oh, I'm very calm, and my manners are impeccable, however, my patience with fools only lasts so long and you are boring me now.   Toodle pip old thing.

You must lose patience with yourself quite often then.   

Still haven't seen any evidence from a credible source that the majority of asylum seekers claims are based on opportunism with lying, cheating and stealing being fundamental to their success.

Do you have it, Tommy?

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:
You don't understand vertigo, you think that you're the Oracle, but you aren't.

I know when someone is being a complete idiotic liar such as you, because none of what they claim makes any sense, which is just about 99.9999% of your posts

So everyone is a liar except the dodgy asylum seekers who come from mud huts in wogadishu with fuck all, and arrive here to take the chance of living in UK, housed, running water, central heating tv etc and a fat benefits cheque every week?

They are all telling the truth I suppose!


Bullshit!

No evidence then, just hearsay.

Irn Bru wrote:Still haven't seen any evidence from a credible source that the majority of asylum seekers claims are based on opportunism with lying, cheating and stealing being fundamental to their success.
Do you have it, Tommy?

They lie to get asylum status, cheating the system and the tax payer and the country, and all the money they cost us and handouts is therefore theft.
Most don't arrive directly and have not claimed asylum until they manage to get here after passing through numerous safe countries first, therefore on right to claim here.
Therefore bogus. And by continuing their attempt to claim here, they are lying and cheating and thieving.

The truth about asylum
Looking for the facts about asylum? The same old myths and scare stories are peddled again and again. The truth is in short supply.
At the Refugee Council, we believe it’s time to put that right, time to tell it like it is. That’s why we’ve produced these facts and figures that you can rely on.
The real story - facts and figures

Asylum seekers and refugees, who's who
Terms and Definitions
Asylum seekers and refugees do not get large handouts from the state
Asylum seekers and refugees are law-abiding citizens
Refugees make a huge contribution to the UK
Asylum seekers are looking for a place of safety
Britain's asylum system is very tough
Poor countries – not the UK – look after most of the world's refugees

The facts about asylum
Asylum seekers and refugees do not get large handouts from the state

Asylum seekers do not come to the UK to claim benefits. In fact, most know nothing about welfare benefits before they arrive and had no expectation that they would receive financial support.
(Refugee Council, Chance or Choice? Understanding why asylum seekers come to the UK, 2010)
Most asylum seekers are living in poverty and experience poor health and hunger. Many families are not able to pay for the basics such as clothing, powdered milk and nappies.
(The Children's Society Briefing highlighting the gap between asylum support and mainstream benefits, 2012 Independent Asylum Commission citizens’ inquiry in The Independent, 2007)
Almost all asylum seekers are not allowed to work and are forced to rely on state support – this can be as little as £5 a day to live on.
Asylum seekers do not jump the queue for council housing and they cannot choose where they live. The accommodation allocated to them is not paid for by the local council. It is nearly always ‘hard to let’ properties, where other people do not want to live.
Asylum seeking women who are destitute are vulnerable to violence in the UK. More than a fifth of the women accessing our therapeutic services had experienced sexual violence in this country. (Refugee Council, The experiences of refugee women in the UK, 2012)
Asylum Seekers do not receive more benefits than pensioners in UK (UK Parliament briefing paper, 2012)

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/policy_research/the_truth_about_asylum/facts_about_asylum_-_page_1

Tommy Monk wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:
You don't understand vertigo, you think that you're the Oracle, but you aren't.

I know when someone is being a complete idiotic liar such as you, because none of what they claim makes any sense, which is just about 99.9999% of your posts

So everyone is a liar except the dodgy asylum seekers who come from mud huts in wogadishu with fuck all, and arrive here to take the chance of living in UK, housed, running water, central heating tv etc and a fat benefits cheque every week?

They are all telling the truth I suppose!


Bullshit!

That's just an ill-informed rant Tommy with no evidence to support your view that the majority of asylum seekers claims are based on opportunism with lying, cheating and stealing being fundamental to their success.

That sort of stuff may go down well elsewhere but let's face it you have failed to come up with anything that supports what you say.

Poor countries - not the UK - look after most of the world's refugees

The UK is home to less than 2% of the world’s refugees – out of more than 15 million worldwide. (UNHCR Global Trends 2011)
About 80% of the world’s refugees are living in developing countries, often in camps. Africa and Asia between them host more than three quarters of the world’s refugees. Europe looks after just 15%. (UNHCR Global Trends 2011)
Over 490,000 refugees have fled the conflict in Democratic Republic of Congo, including about 15,000 in 2011, Only 188 of these people applied for asylum in the UK in 2011. (UNHCR Global Trends 2011 and Home Office Quarterly Statistical Summary, asylum statistics 2011)
The likelihood that a refugee will be recognised as having protection needs and granted status depends on the country where they apply for asylum. In the UK in 2010, 25% of the people who applied for asylum were granted it. In some countries, such as Switzerland and finland, over 70% of applications succeed. (UNHCR Statistical Yearbook 2010).
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/policy_research/the_truth_about_asylum/facts_about_asylum_-_page_6

Given our role in the world and the British Empire in particular going back a hundred years or so it's easy to see why there is an attraction for people to seek asylum here. I think it was Didge that earlier put in a very good post explaining why some people are more attracted to this country than some others.

Exactly, we were very happy to go over to their countries and take a share of the riches. I wonder how much of our wealth is based on what we have done to other countries over the years.

If you are fleeing for your life, you go to the nearest safe place.
Not travel through many to arrive at your preferred destination of choice.
The law is clear on this.
If an asylum seeker arrives here and cannot show they arrived directly from place of origin then they have no legal right to claim here.
We are all very aware of the routes taken by people through safe countries before they pop up over hare and start lying and cheating to try to stay.
This is completely planned/premeditated and amounts to theft of taxpayers money.
They have the option of staying where they are and living in a mud hut or blag their way here for the chance of living their dream life, and I don't blame them for trying in a way, I blame leftie twats for allowing it by believing their bullshit and not enforcing the existing laws.
Sassy you say in your own post that only 25% asylum claims are granted, so the 75% refused must therefore be bogus proving my point!
Although most of these failed ones are still here too as they are not deported and still costing us money!
They then start saying they have no passport or ID etc to make it difficult to send them back!
More lying and cheating and thieving taxpayer funds.

As the figures for where refugees end up show.

Bless, did you wait until Irn left before coming out with your next rant.

It doesn't make them bogus, it makes the unprovable, which given the way that have to leave and their lack of papers etc, is understandable. We know we have sent some back that have been killed.

Anyway, I'm for bed, you can rant to your little heart's content. What's that you say, you don't have a heart? Well I never!

We have let many more stay who have raped and killed people here!
What's that you say? You don't have a brain or care about the British people?
And no I didn't wait for iron to log off either, don't be ridiculous.

Tommy Monk wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:
I know when someone is being a complete idiotic liar such as you, because none of what they claim makes any sense, which is just about 99.9999% of your posts

So everyone is a liar except the dodgy asylum seekers who come from mud huts in wogadishu with fuck all, and arrive here to take the chance of living in UK, housed, running water, central heating tv etc and a fat benefits cheque every week?

They are all telling the truth I suppose!


Bullshit!

Look we all know who you are twatti a homophobic racist low life proven by the above post, so your posts are just comical to say the least and you miss the whole point from the start, was it unreasonable for a person with a fear of heights to request different accommodation?
No

There is absolutely nothing racist with Monk's post didge.

What it shows is he is angry with the way his country and possibly his tax money is being abused.

I've told you before - people are angry, upset and feel cheated and ignored by those who are paid to run our country and look after us.

BigAndy9 wrote:There is absolutely nothing racist with Monk's post didge.

What it shows is he is angry with the way his country and possibly his tax money is being abused.

I've told you before - people are angry, upset and feel cheated and ignored by those who are paid to run our country and look after us.

Never claimed there was, but that he himself is a racist, as I know who the poster is, yes he is an angry ex BNP supporter buying into bullshit just like you do Andy, with your idiotic claims to murders by names as being foreign. There has always been disgruntled people, normally those who hold prejudice views thinking only of themselves.

The fact is you started this thread based off you thinking this refugee was wrong to ask for alternative accommodation because she was not born to this country, when there is nothing unreasonable about doing so, only though to people who hold prejudice views of course

PhilDidge wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:There is absolutely nothing racist with Monk's post didge.

What it shows is he is angry with the way his country and possibly his tax money is being abused.

I've told you before - people are angry, upset and feel cheated and ignored by those who are paid to run our country and look after us.

Never claimed there was, but that he himself is a racist, as I know who the poster is, yes he is an angry ex BNP supporter buying into bullshit just like you do Andy, with your idiotic claims to murders by names as being foreign. There has always been disgruntled people, normally those who hold prejudice views thinking only of themselves.

The fact is you started this thread based off you thinking this refugee was wrong to ask for alternative accommodation because she was not born to this country, when there is nothing unreasonable about doing so, only though to people who hold prejudice views of course

You did claim that his post was racist.

Look we all know who you are twatti a homophobic racist low life proven by the above post,