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lovedust wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I beg to differ, too.  Stephen used to snoop into PMs on Female First.  He sanctioned Aqua for sending a PM about another site to a fellow-poster.  Very jealous, he was.

Tho it may be an extra you have to add on.

Just to clarify: the "Stephen" to whom Quill refers has nothing to do with our own Stephenmarra. Who's a very nice chap.

Ah ! thanks' for that LD kind of you to say,  you're a good un yourself.       
He's not starting all this crap  up again is he ?  I find it all a bit sad and pathetic really.
If I've misread it Quill I apologise, if not, stop making a prat of yourself.   As I'm the only Stephen on the Forum, would you please clarify your post.

Stephenmarra wrote:

lovedust wrote:

Just to clarify: the "Stephen" to whom Quill refers has nothing to do with our own Stephenmarra. Who's a very nice chap.

Ah ! thanks' for that LD kind of you to say,  you're a good un yourself.       
He's not starting all this crap  up again is he ?  I find it all a bit sad and pathetic really.
If I've misread it Quill I apologise, if not, stop making a prat of yourself.   As I'm the only Stephen on the Forum, would you please clarify your post.

Oh I do hope he's not being stupid enough to start that up again, especially after showing himself to be racially prejudiced against Pakistani people on the 'accents' thread, after all his screaming about the TM case.

so not sure where to put this message but kind of have to get it off my chest....and I am getting close to bitch slapping the sister again but hey ho.

I spent some time earlier this evening spooning my stepfather's ashes into a cardboard container.....now there's a sentence I never thought I would have to write......seems mum has now decided to keep a bit back to take with her when she moves....fair play...just wish I had known before hand so could get the funeral home to do it, but hey it's ok - I just had to concentrate very hard to not let tears get mixed up in it or sneeze....probably the most bizarre thing I have ever done....but that's life.

Yesterday when I picked him up, I had a few more errands to run so I took him to the Post Office (for which he did a hell of a lot of business over the years) and the Library cause he loved books and probably helped me to decide to become a librarian. Mum was pleased.

Anyhoos had scampi and chips and scraps (best part really) tonight - no pork    but I did at breakfast and at lunch we had that smoked ham....delish it was.

Cass wrote:so not sure where to put this message but kind of have to get it off my chest....and I am getting close to bitch slapping the sister again but hey ho.

I spent some time earlier this evening spooning my stepfather's ashes into a cardboard container.....now there's a sentence I never thought I would have to write......seems mum has now decided to keep a bit back to take with her when she moves....fair play...just wish I had known before hand so could get the funeral home to do it, but hey it's ok - I just had to concentrate very hard to not let tears get mixed up in it or sneeze....probably the most bizarre thing I have ever done....but that's life.

Yesterday when I picked him up, I had a few more errands to run so I took him to the Post Office (for which he did a hell of a lot of business over the years) and the Library cause he loved books and probably helped me to decide to become a librarian. Mum was pleased.

Anyhoos had scampi and chips and scraps (best part really) tonight - no pork    but I did at breakfast and at lunch we had that smoked ham....delish it was.

Oh Cass, so hard.   When we scattered my girl's ashes under the tree, there was just so much of it.   My grandaughter suddenly looked up to the sky and said 'you know Mum, you'd have made this so much easier if you had gone on that diet'!!   We just fell about, even though we cried. You say and do so many weird things at times like that.

Oh Cass that's a horrid job.
We put my dad's ashes into a big plant pot and planted a shrub in it.
It was a windy kind of day so I'm sure some of my dad skipped up,off the street.....

Glad you had scampi, it's my fave :-)

Glad you feel you can come here too....if it saves your sister getting a slap  

Cass wrote:so not sure where to put this message but kind of have to get it off my chest....and I am getting close to bitch slapping the sister again but hey ho.

I spent some time earlier this evening spooning my stepfather's ashes into a cardboard container.....now there's a sentence I never thought I would have to write......seems mum has now decided to keep a bit back to take with her when she moves....fair play...just wish I had known before hand so could get the funeral home to do it, but hey it's ok - I just had to concentrate very hard to not let tears get mixed up in it or sneeze....probably the most bizarre thing I have ever done....but that's life.

Yesterday when I picked him up, I had a few more errands to run so I took him to the Post Office (for which he did a hell of a lot of business over the years) and the Library cause he loved books and probably helped me to decide to become a librarian. Mum was pleased.

Anyhoos had scampi and chips and scraps (best part really) tonight - no pork    but I did at breakfast and at lunch we had that smoked ham....delish it was.

So sorry Cass... That's very sad... Well done for getting through the day. x

Cass wrote:so not sure where to put this message but kind of have to get it off my chest....and I am getting close to bitch slapping the sister again but hey ho.

I spent some time earlier this evening spooning my stepfather's ashes into a cardboard container.....now there's a sentence I never thought I would have to write......seems mum has now decided to keep a bit back to take with her when she moves....fair play...just wish I had known before hand so could get the funeral home to do it, but hey it's ok - I just had to concentrate very hard to not let tears get mixed up in it or sneeze....probably the most bizarre thing I have ever done....but that's life.

Yesterday when I picked him up, I had a few more errands to run so I took him to the Post Office (for which he did a hell of a lot of business over the years) and the Library cause he loved books and probably helped me to decide to become a librarian. Mum was pleased.

Anyhoos had scampi and chips and scraps (best part really) tonight - no pork    but I did at breakfast and at lunch we had that smoked ham....delish it was.

Cass been there only once but been there.......................

Only one words describes the feeling and I apologise in advance " Shit ".............. Someone has to do it, you and I seemed to have the short straws but then again....... maybe we are the stronger from he outside......

Anyway ou can now relax with the knowledge that Stepdad is at peace, mother is coming to peace and you have done all that is humanly possible to do including dripping butter down your chin from too many crumpets.

I only have two friends BTW.

Both still have fathers Ashes .................. Best buddy coming to dinner tomorrow and a fellow Lanacastrian has his Dad's in the sitting room in the sideboard cupboard. Wife finally drew the line when last year - bud decided his Dad was joining them for Christmas dinner and got Ashes form sideboard and put in centre of dining table............... I kid you not. Wife went - well she is still in orbit......

Other buddy has father's Ashes in an urn and kept on top of Rabbit hutch in garage............. Says hello everyday as Rabbit is fed and watered......

My own
He went up Holcombe Hill to Peel Tower and is happy as Larry......................

Christmas Dinner - love it! I think I will hold off breaking down till i get home to Mr. C god love him - won't know whats hit him but I am taking him jelly babies. I can only say I know what you have gone through. Shit is correct but had to be done right?

Forgive if I have already said this, but we are taking him home to Yorkshire and sprinkling him near Leeds. Also going to take a trip round as I have never been with family to see where he was born, and the stepbros etc...and meeting up with his niece and nephews and families for a pub lunch so should be good - and stopping by on sunday to see my sis and bro in law and their boys....then back to nose to the grindstone for a few more days. And more pork products.

Just so you know - you all ROCK....this whole ordeal has been made a bit more bearable by me being able to come on and here and let loose so a huge MWAH to you all xxxx

Cass wrote:Christmas Dinner - love it! I think I will hold off breaking down till i get home to Mr. C god love him - won't know whats hit him but I am taking him jelly babies. I can only say I know what you have gone through. Shit is correct but had to be done right?

Forgive if I have already said this, but we are taking him home to Yorkshire and sprinkling him near Leeds. Also going to take a trip round as I have never been with family to see where he was born, and the stepbros etc...and meeting up with his niece and nephews and families for a pub lunch so should be good - and stopping by on sunday to see my sis and bro in law and their boys....then back to nose to the grindstone for a few more days. And more pork products.

Enjoy the road trip.. but beware of the Scratchings.......

gerber wrote:

Cass wrote:Christmas Dinner - love it! I think I will hold off breaking down till i get home to Mr. C god love him - won't know whats hit him but I am taking him jelly babies. I can only say I know what you have gone through. Shit is correct but had to be done right?

Forgive if I have already said this, but we are taking him home to Yorkshire and sprinkling him near Leeds. Also going to take a trip round as I have never been with family to see where he was born, and the stepbros etc...and meeting up with his niece and nephews and families for a pub lunch so should be good - and stopping by on sunday to see my sis and bro in law and their boys....then back to nose to the grindstone for a few more days. And more pork products.

Enjoy the road trip.. but beware of the Scratchings.......

too late crossed off me list...as well as crackling....I am going to TRY and take home some goose fat and some local beef dripping in a old goosefat jar....wish me luck x

Cass wrote:

gerber wrote:

Enjoy the road trip.. but beware of the Scratchings.......

too late crossed off me list...as well as crackling....I am going to TRY and take home some goose fat and some local beef dripping in a old goosefat jar....wish me luck x

They will all be after your roast taters Cass. You are doing really well, your family must be so glad that they have you to lean on. Afterwards you can go home and lean on hubby xx

Sassy wrote:

Cass wrote:

too late crossed off me list...as well as crackling....I am going to TRY and take home some goose fat and some local beef dripping in a old goosefat jar....wish me luck x

They will all be after your roast taters Cass.   You are doing really well, your family must be so glad that they have you to lean on.   Afterwards you can go home and lean on hubby xx

cheers hon - so you and the gerbs are in charge of having a whip round for my bail if I get busted ok?

Cass wrote:

Sassy wrote:

They will all be after your roast taters Cass.   You are doing really well, your family must be so glad that they have you to lean on.   Afterwards you can go home and lean on hubby xx

cheers hon - so you and the gerbs are in charge of having a whip round for my bail if I get busted ok?

Absolutely!   My avatar is a painting I did to signify her turning into a butterfly from the chrysalis she was and the fact she was free of the pain. I mixed a very tiny bit of her ashes in with the paint.   Weird I know, but it means part of her is always in the room with me.

Cass wrote:

Sassy wrote:

They will all be after your roast taters Cass.   You are doing really well, your family must be so glad that they have you to lean on.   Afterwards you can go home and lean on hubby xx

cheers hon - so you and the gerbs are in charge of having a whip round for my bail if I get busted ok?

Yep I'm in......

£1 for Cass........ Best bit will Dogman whatever he is called form Hawaii with his lovely large wife come over and to get the bond.. We might be on the telly honey bunch.......

Sassy wrote:

Cass wrote:

cheers hon - so you and the gerbs are in charge of having a whip round for my bail if I get busted ok?

Absolutely!   My avatar is a painting I did to signify her turning into a butterfly from the chrysalis she was and the fact she was free of the pain.  I mixed a very tiny bit of her ashes in with the paint.   Weird I know, but it means part of her is always in the room with me.

That is the loveliest thing.....................

gerber wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Absolutely!   My avatar is a painting I did to signify her turning into a butterfly from the chrysalis she was and the fact she was free of the pain.  I mixed a very tiny bit of her ashes in with the paint.   Weird I know, but it means part of her is always in the room with me.

That is the loveliest thing.....................

agreed!

gerber wrote:

Cass wrote:

cheers hon - so you and the gerbs are in charge of having a whip round for my bail if I get busted ok?

Yep I'm in......

£1 for Cass........  Best bit will Dogman whatever he is called form Hawaii with his lovely large wife come over and to get the bond..  We might be on the telly honey bunch.......

I see, so you want me to skip bail so Dogbreath and the evil blonde will come over and hunt me down and you lose your dosh just sos you can meet him and be on telly?

sounds like a plan to me

It helped make me feel a bit better xxx

Your trip round seeing everyone is a really good idea Cass, it sounds a bit like a celebration of his life.

Cass wrote:

gerber wrote:

Yep I'm in......

£1 for Cass........  Best bit will Dogman whatever he is called form Hawaii with his lovely large wife come over and to get the bond..  We might be on the telly honey bunch.......

I see, so you want me to skip bail so Dogbreath and the evil blonde will come over and hunt me down and you lose your dosh just sos you can meet him and be on telly?

sounds like a plan to me

Do you think she's got a crush? lol

Sassy wrote:

Cass wrote:

I see, so you want me to skip bail so Dogbreath and the evil blonde will come over and hunt me down and you lose your dosh just sos you can meet him and be on telly?

sounds like a plan to me

Do you think she's got a crush? lol

Maybe with English crumpets dripping with butter, bacon, curry from a take away........winning the sweets ( Booby prize ) in the pub quiz, loving the cool sensual rain, Sunday roasts............. Theme running here....... Sassy it seems to be all about food.....

   LOL

gerber wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Do you think she's got a crush? lol

Maybe with English crumpets dripping with butter, bacon, curry from a take away........winning the sweets ( Booby prize ) in the pub quiz, loving the cool sensual rain, Sunday roasts.............  Theme running here....... Sassy it seems to be all about food.....

   LOL

you see through me so easily  :<:i}: 

gerber wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Do you think she's got a crush? lol

Maybe with English crumpets dripping with butter, bacon, curry from a take away........winning the sweets ( Booby prize ) in the pub quiz, loving the cool sensual rain, Sunday roasts.............  Theme running here....... Sassy it seems to be all about food.....



   LOL

And why not, away from hubby, so no sex, concentrate on the next best thing!

m'k adieu me lovely peeps....long day and I am doing the driving.

drive on the left, drive on the left, drive on the left...........

Cass wrote:m'k adieu me lovely peeps....long day and I am doing the driving.

drive on the left, drive on the left, drive on the left...........

Oh please remember!

Cass wrote:Just so you know - you all ROCK....this whole ordeal has been made a bit more bearable by me being able to come on and here and let loose so a huge MWAH to you all xxxx

You're the best Cass xxx
I know you stole my cookies and stuff but you're still great. Stay strong and know we are all here for you xxx

Cass

You have given us so much pleasure, humour and reality over the years, but you have now given me and i would like to think I can speak for all who know you ............. Something so special over the last few weeks. You have allowed us to share in your grief and your pain.

Both of which are very private. I feel honoured that we can share and without meeting each other X 50 + members

You are a superstar. My one regret is you will be returning home and i will not have the pleasure of meeting you in person.

Gods speed

gerbs

xx

The "PM Underground" can be a dark, fearsome and sinister place.

It often raises my hackles, ere I find myself chasing the odd trolls and rabbits back down their holes and into their "PM Underground" lairs.

Lone Wolf wrote:
The "PM Underground" can be a dark, fearsome and sinister place.

It often raises my hackles, ere I find myself chasing the odd trolls and rabbits back down their holes and into their "PM Underground" lairs.  

Welcome aboard, wolf!

Stephenmarra wrote:

lovedust wrote:

Just to clarify: the "Stephen" to whom Quill refers has nothing to do with our own Stephenmarra. Who's a very nice chap.

Ah ! thanks' for that LD kind of you to say,  you're a good un yourself.       
He's not starting all this crap  up again is he ?  I find it all a bit sad and pathetic really.
If I've misread it Quill I apologise, if not, stop making a prat of yourself.   As I'm the only Stephen on the Forum, would you please clarify your post.

It seems that you and Sassy have a problem. For me to respond would be gratuitous.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:
The "PM Underground" can be a dark, fearsome and sinister place.

It often raises my hackles, ere I find myself chasing the odd trolls and rabbits back down their holes and into their "PM Underground" lairs.  

Welcome aboard, wolf!

Same for me, LW. Been chatting with you about the Malaysian Airliner, but forgot to welcome you.

So, welcome.   

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:
The "PM Underground" can be a dark, fearsome and sinister place.

It often raises my hackles, ere I find myself chasing the odd trolls and rabbits back down their holes and into their "PM Underground" lairs.  

Welcome aboard, wolf!

Welcome back, Bee

Cass wrote:Just so you know - you all ROCK....this whole ordeal has been made a bit more bearable by me being able to come on and here and let loose so a huge MWAH to you all xxxx

Right back atcha Cass Be thinking of you today, hope it goes ok   xxx

Cass wishing you the best i know it couldn't have been easy xxxx

Original Quill wrote:

Stephenmarra wrote:


Ah ! thanks' for that LD kind of you to say,  you're a good un yourself.       
He's not starting all this crap  up again is he ?  I find it all a bit sad and pathetic really.
If I've misread it Quill I apologise, if not, stop making a prat of yourself.   As I'm the only Stephen on the Forum, would you please clarify your post.

It seems that you and Sassy have a problem.  For me to respond would be gratuitous.

Wright !  OK ! to ask   you to explain an ambiguous post is gratuitous, OK let me think about this.Sorry  you still come across as a prat. Sorry !

Stephenmarra wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

It seems that you and Sassy have a problem.  For me to respond would be gratuitous.

Wright !  OK ! to ask   you to explain an ambiguous post is gratuitous, OK let me think about this.Sorry  you still come across as a prat. Sorry !

I don't see it as gratuitous (unjustified, without reason). The reason is that Quill spoke of a Stephen who did something nasty. As you are the only Stephen on here, Lovedust just asked him to say that you weren't the Stephen. Now that is a reason, therefore the answer is not gratuitous.

Quill, you claimed on this board last month that Stephenmarra and the spiteful, jealous, pm-reading Stephen you keep going on about were one and the same. It's actually quite reasonable for him to ask if that's still what you're claiming.

lovedust wrote:Quill, you claimed on this board last month that Stephenmarra and the spiteful, jealous, pm-reading Stephen you keep going on about were one and the same. It's actually quite reasonable for him to ask if that's still what you're claiming.

I think that's a connection that was established on Speak Free, by Victor. By sanctioning me, he admitted the connection between Stephen and Stephen. Otherwise, Victor would have said you're wrong, and walked away...no harm no foul.

@Stephen, you and sassy want to rehash old news. I don't care to revisit it...hence, for me 'to comment would be gratuitous'. If you had anything important to say, i might care about you. But, you're an ignorant fool without the brains god gave a little green apple. And I don't care what you think about me. We've been foes since 2004, FCS. Of course we don't like one another.

Original Quill wrote:

lovedust wrote:Quill, you claimed on this board last month that Stephenmarra and the spiteful, jealous, pm-reading Stephen you keep going on about were one and the same. It's actually quite reasonable for him to ask if that's still what you're claiming.

I think that's a connection that was established on Speak Free, by Victor.  By sanctioning me, he admitted the connection between Stephen and Stephen.  Otherwise, Victor would have said you're wrong, and walked away...no harm no foul.

@Stephen, you and sassy want to rehash old news.  I don't care to revisit it...hence, for me 'to comment would be gratuitous'.  If you had anything important to say, i might care about you.  But, you're an ignorant fool without the brains god gave a little green apple.  And I don't care what you think about me.  We've been foes since 2004, FCS.  Of course we don't like one another.

Christ on a bike, how many more times, even Victor has told you again and again.   You were banned for putting out WHAT YOU THOUGHT was personal information, the intent was there.   With the amount you put out is was lucky that it WASN'T the same Stephen, or I can assure you, Victor would never have let you set a foot back on Speak again because he could have been prosecuted for letting you do it.

No, Quill. This is confirmation bias. He banned you so you were right. Had he not banned you, you'd have said "He couldn't ban me because I was right".

You keep bringing this false rumour off. Victor thinks you're factually in error. Beewolf thinks you're factually in error. I think you're factually in error.

Stephenmarra shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable by you on this board in 2014 just because you fell out with a completely different man ten years ago.
Should he?

Frankly, if you used an excuse like that in a court of law it would be thrown out. Why the hell should Stephen have to put up with this?

The Stephnemarra I know is a pretty decent guy, if you want my tuppence worth.

He is, Quill has just got this stupid obsession that makes Stephenmarra's life on any board he is on with Quill, a misery, and it isn't right.

Yeah Stephen is great Quill I think you have misunderstood him from the off. I've known Stephen (not personally haha) since being on Sky News forum and he is sound as anything

Both Stephnemarra and Quill are sound guys, just sometimes people fall out. It is their issue really to resolve if they want to resolve.


It is a shame the site closed down, but then to be a forum owner or moderator makes you hated and liked dependent on the situation based on their own views as to what is right or wrong and to be impossible to be completely unbiased. That is the reality because we are all humans after all and fallible, so sometimes decisions do not go how we ourselves perceive they should, because the views of the owner or moderators can be different to our own.

So yest argue your case, then leave it at that, nothing is going to change the past now, it is done, so best to move on

Eilzel wrote:Yeah Stephen is great Quill I think you have misunderstood him from the off. I've known Stephen (not personally haha) since being on Sky News forum and he is sound as anything

Thanks Eilzel

It disgusts me that no matter how many times he is told the truth Quill keeps up this pretense. As far as I know, the Stephen he refers to has a criminal record, so keep saying our Stephen is the same one is simply not on.

PhilDidge wrote:Both Stephnemarra and Quill are sound guys, just sometimes people fall out. It is their issue really to resolve if they want to resolve.


It is a shame the site closed down, but then to be a forum owner or moderator makes you hated and liked dependent on the situation based on their own views as to what is right or wrong and to be impossible to be completely unbiased. That is the reality because we are all humans after all and fallible, so sometimes decisions do not go how we ourselves perceive they should, because the views of the owner or moderators can be different to our own.

So yest argue your case, then leave it at that, nothing is going to change the past now, it is done, so best to move on

This has got nothing to do with Speak, this is here and now, Quill is still saying that Stephenmarra is the same Stephen as the one he knew on Female First, and it is utterly disgusting of him to carry it on.

Sassy wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:Both Stephnemarra and Quill are sound guys, just sometimes people fall out. It is their issue really to resolve if they want to resolve.


It is a shame the site closed down, but then to be a forum owner or moderator makes you hated and liked dependent on the situation based on their own views as to what is right or wrong and to be impossible to be completely unbiased. That is the reality because we are all humans after all and fallible, so sometimes decisions do not go how we ourselves perceive they should, because the views of the owner or moderators can be different to our own.

So yest argue your case, then leave it at that, nothing is going to change the past now, it is done, so best to move on

This has got nothing to do with Speak, this is here and now, Quill is still saying that Stephenmarra is the same Stephen as the one he knew on Female First, and it is utterly disgusting of him to carry it on.

Then this is there problem, allow them to decide if they wish to resolve it or continue to be at logger heads.

If people continue to reply and make remarks, then of course it will continue, but only they can really sort out any difference they have

PhilDidge wrote:

Sassy wrote:

This has got nothing to do with Speak, this is here and now, Quill is still saying that Stephenmarra is the same Stephen as the one he knew on Female First, and it is utterly disgusting of him to carry it on.

Then this is there problem, allow them to decide if they wish to resolve it or continue to be at logger heads.

If people continue to reply and make remarks, then of course it will continue, but only they can really sort out any difference they have

No, we have asked Quill to stop and admit that he is talking about a different person. He refuses to, and unlike last time, we are not going to allow Stephen to put up with it.