Hundreds of Muslim parents protest school in Britain over LGBT curriculum

by HoratioTarr Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:43 am

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Hundreds of Muslim parents and their children – dressed up as superheroes – protested outside a primary school in Britain on Thursday against planned lessons on LGBT rights.

More than 200 protesters organized the demonstration against Parkfield Community School in Birmingham over the school program called “No Outsiders” that includes teachings about homosexuality, including same-sex relationships and marriages, and challenges homophobia.

The organizers accused assistant head Andrew Moffatt, who is gay, of promoting LGBT rights against the wishes of the parents, who carried placards reading “Say no to sexualizing children” and “respect and be respected.”

https://www.foxnews.com/world/hundreds-of-Muslim-parents-protest-school-in-britain-over-lgbt-curriculum

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:15 am

gelico wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

No it doesn’t.

The holy Quran doesn’t mention punishment for homosexuality

some of the hadiths do. do you disregard the hadiths and only focus on the koran itself?

in hadiths mohamed said ''allah curses those who behave like the people of Lut'' as in homosexual practices. 'he considered it a total abomination on par with adultery which is death
''if a man be on another man they are both adulterers'' and the same for women.

his companions discussed the matter wholesale which is why there are different punishments according to different schools of thought but it is still punished quite harshly - according to sharia law which is based on the koran which you believe fully in.

i'm in a fog with your comments if i'm honest

Hadiths need to be verified
You have to check their authenticity.

If something isn’t even mention in the Quran then it’s not a major thing to ‘punish’.

We are not allowed to play ‘God’ ffs

Live and let live is something I’ve always believed in.

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:18 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Again, my view on the Koran, like all religious doctrines, is very low. They are also interpreted very differently by their followers. For me personally, that devalues them all, and the Koran certainly calls for some pretty aggressive actions at the same time as preaching peace and tolerance. But whatever. It only bothers me when followers use their interpretation to do bad things. It's why I'd ban faith schools and why I'd tell the parents in the OP to fuck themselves

Never read the qur'an clearly

And very tolerant

Loving the irony

The religious want to ban homosexual lessons in school

The homosexual wants to ban religion in schools

I struggle to see who which side of this coin is the more intolerant

The religious want NO SEX education straight or gay!

That’s the issue

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:19 am

Thor wrote:
gelico wrote:

some of the hadiths do. do you disregard the hadiths and only focus on the koran itself?

in hadiths mohamed said ''allah curses those who behave like the people of Lut'' as in homosexual practices. 'he considered it a total abomination on par with adultery which is death
''if a man be on another man they are both adulterers'' and the same for women.

his companions discussed the matter wholesale which is why there are different punishments according to different schools of thought but it is still punished quite harshly - according to sharia law which is based on the koran which you believe fully in.

i'm in a fog with your comments if i'm honest

I'm not, so maybe you can explain why you are in a fog

Is this your interpretaion of Islam or hers?

Is like saying, you are a Christian, of which you are. So why are you friends with Eizel

Your interpretation is also wrong to claim homosexuality. If anything the inhabitants of Lot were near all bisexual

Its actually about sodomy, practiced by all the inhabitants of Lot. I mean why else did they kill all the women Gelico, bar an old woman?

No where does it mention a problem with muff diving....

I mean no where does it actually say homosexuality within the Quran or hadiths.

In fact I think Muslims would be hard pressed to argue against lesbians

What then should Muslims say to Homosexuals who do not practice sodomy?

The majority of Homosexuals do not engage in sodomy. Around 30% of gay couples and around 30% of hetrosexual couples engage in anal sex.

And this is the problem with religion, it can be intrepreted many ways

Of course the majority interpretation calls for punishment for homosexuality, but its really a dumb argument to base what you think Islam should teach on this, compared to what Sexy thinks it should be

Yes.

It’s all about Anal sex. That’s the forbidden part

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:24 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Thor wrote:

I'm not, so maybe you can explain why you are in a fog

Is this your interpretaion of Islam or hers?

Is like saying, you are a Christian, of which you are. So why are you friends with Eizel

Your interpretation is also wrong to claim homosexuality. If anything the inhabitants of Lot were near all bisexual

Its actually about sodomy, practiced by all the inhabitants of Lot. I mean why else did they kill all the women Gelico, bar an old woman?

No where does it mention a problem with muff diving....

I mean no where does it actually say homosexuality within the Quran or hadiths.

In fact I think Muslims would be hard pressed to argue against lesbians

What then should Muslims say to Homosexuals who do not practice sodomy?

The majority of Homosexuals do not engage in sodomy. Around 30% of gay couples and around 30% of hetrosexual couples engage in anal sex.

And this is the problem with religion, it can be intrepreted many ways

Of course the majority interpretation calls for punishment for homosexuality, but its really a dumb argument to base what you think Islam should teach on this, compared to what Sexy thinks it should be

Yes.

It’s all about Anal sex. That’s the forbidden part

Which is my point Sexy

If the same number of gay people and hetrosexual people engage in anal sex (around 30%). Then the 70% of homosexuals who do not, are not committing a sin within Islam. Neither would the vast majority of lesbians.

The sin would be by both er hetrosexuals and homosexuals engaging in anal sex

So sodomy is a sin, but then not necessarily homosexuality?

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:24 am

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

We all know if she was a Christian you would have a different view.

You're just a bigot

You really want that to be true, don't you.

Shame it's not, eh

He just can’t understand us being friends even though we both disagree on things.

Smelly the only one who clearly is a bigot is you!

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:25 am

Thor wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Yes.

It’s all about Anal sex. That’s the forbidden part

Which is my point Sexy

If the same number of gay people and hetrosexual people engage in anal sex (around 30%). Then the 70% of homosexuals who do not, are not committing a sin within Islam. Neither would the vast majority of lesbians.

The sin would be by both er hetrosexuals and homosexuals engaging in anal sex

So sodomy is a sin, but then not necessarily homosexuality?

Yes it’s forbidden for EVERYONE.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:28 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Thor wrote:

Which is my point Sexy

If the same number of gay people and hetrosexual people engage in anal sex (around 30%). Then the 70% of homosexuals who do not, are not committing a sin within Islam. Neither would the vast majority of lesbians.

The sin would be by both er hetrosexuals and homosexuals engaging in anal sex

So sodomy is a sin, but then not necessarily homosexuality?

Yes it’s forbidden for EVERYONE.

What is forbidden?

The verses only refer to acts, not homosexuality

You just said its the act of sodomy and the vast majority of homosexuals do not engage in the act of sodomy

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:28 am

[quote="Thor"]

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Yes it’s forbidden for EVERYONE.[/quote

What is forbidden?

The verses only refer to acts, not homosexuality

You just said its the act of sodomy and the vast majority of homosexuals do not engage in the act of sodomy

Then it’s ok.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:30 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Thor wrote:

What is forbidden?

The verses only refer to acts, not homosexuality

You just said its the act of sodomy and the vast majority of homosexuals do not engage in the act of sodomy

Then it’s ok.

If only such contested issues were that easy to resolve sexy within religions... Laughing

Thanks

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:32 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

You really want that to be true, don't you.

Shame it's not, eh

He just can’t understand us being friends even though we both disagree on things.

Smelly the only one who clearly is a bigot is you!

You're the one who thinks homosexuality is a sin but I'm the bigot scratch

Of course why not, it's always everyone else's fault

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:34 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

He just can’t understand us being friends even though we both disagree on things.

Smelly the only one who clearly is a bigot is you!

You're the one who thinks homosexuality is a sin but I'm the bigot

Of course why not, it's always everyone else's fault

You are against gay marriage, when it does not effect you

The fact is, they can disagree and be friends

Maybe you should try that sometime instead of being constantly angry Laughing

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:34 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

Never read the qur'an clearly

And very tolerant

Loving the irony

The religious want to ban homosexual lessons in school

The homosexual wants to ban religion in schools

I struggle to see who which side of this coin is the more intolerant

The religious want NO SEX education straight or gay!

That’s the issue

That's not true because sex education has been in schools for ages now, but the only time the brothers and sister rouse themselves is when that sex education starts to include homosexuality

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:38 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

The religious want NO SEX education straight or gay!

That’s the issue

That's not true because sex education has been in schools for ages now, but the only time the brothers and sister rouse themselves is when that sex education starts to include homosexuality

These Muslim parents have an issue with sex education

Do you know they opt out of it and as they can’t opt out of this one the protests have began

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:39 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

He just can’t understand us being friends even though we both disagree on things.

Smelly the only one who clearly is a bigot is you!

You're the one who thinks homosexuality is a sin but I'm the bigot

Of course why not, it's always everyone else's fault

The difference between me and you is that I don’t care about a person’s sexuality but you do.

You don’t even support your brother.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:40 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

The religious want NO SEX education straight or gay!

That’s the issue

That's not true because sex education has been in schools for ages now, but the only time the brothers and sister rouse themselves is when that sex education starts to include homosexuality

That is wrong as well, as homosexuality has been included in sex education

They are at odds, because of a couple of inclusive lessons in the "No Outsider" program teach to be includsive of gay people and couples

Listen smelly, you are never going to be like your masterbation Idol Milo. He actually is intelligent and good at being a provocator

You are just like a little jack terrier, snapping at peoples heels... Laughing

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:40 am

Thor wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Then it’s ok.

If only such contested issues were that easy to resolve sexy within religions...

Thanks

True x

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:46 am

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:Well this is awkward.

I think you might be off elizels Christmas list mama

Sexy thinks homosexuality is a sin. I've never been shy about my feelings towards her religion.

We disagree, but we see each other as humans first. She congratulated me on my marriage. People can have utterly opposed views and still be friends, a fact which may escape you.

She is ten times the person you are.

Exactly. That's what I was saying before about people who oppose homosexuality not necessarily being nasty bigots. I'm glad you can see that they're not all like that.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:49 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

You're the one who thinks homosexuality is a sin but I'm the bigot

Of course why not, it's always everyone else's fault

The difference between me and you is that I don’t care about a person’s sexuality but you do.

You don’t even support your brother.

What shit are you talking now???how could you possibly know anything about my relationship with my brother??

That's like me saying you hate your daughter, how could I possibly know anything about that???

You're just being an emotional idiot more so than usual.

But what we do know is that you consider homosexuality to be a sin, because you said that??

Do you think my brother would feel supported by you if you told him that his entire existence was a crime against God??

Do you think elizel likes the fact that you think he is sinful for being who he is???

You do realise that's a hate crime???

What do you think would happen if you went to soho and started telling gays that homosexuality is a sin, youd either get battered or arrested.

You and your religious view of homosexuality being a sin is bigotry

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:52 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

The difference between me and you is that I don’t care about a person’s sexuality but you do.

You don’t even support your brother.

Do you think elizel likes the fact that you think he is sinful for being who he is???

You do realise that's a hate crime???

A belief is not a hate crime nor should it ever be

You also need to keep up with the debates

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:55 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

The difference between me and you is that I don’t care about a person’s sexuality but you do.

You don’t even support your brother.

What shit are you talking now???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MdK8hBkR3s

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:02 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

The difference between me and you is that I don’t care about a person’s sexuality but you do.

You don’t even support your brother.

What shit are you talking now???how could you possibly know anything about my relationship with my brother??

That's like me saying you hate your daughter, how could I possibly know anything about that???

You're just being an emotional idiot more so than usual.

But what we do know is that you consider homosexuality to be a sin, because you said that??

Do you think my brother would feel supported by you if you told him that his entire existence was a crime against God??

Do you think elizel likes the fact that you think he is sinful for being who he is???

You do realise that's a hate crime???

What do you think would happen if you went to soho and started telling gays that homosexuality is a sin, youd either get battered or arrested.

You and your religious view of homosexuality being a sin is bigotry

I can only believe what you write on here.

You said your brother is gay and you had a problem with that.

I apologise if that is not the case and I read it wrong.

Just because I believe something is a sin doesn’t mean I will announce it to every Tom dick and Harry!!!!

It’s up to everyone as an individual how they conduct themselves.

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:04 am

Thor wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

Do you think elizel likes the fact that you think he is sinful for being who he is???

You do realise that's a hate crime???

A belief is not a hate crime nor should it ever be

You also need to keep up with the debates

Exactly

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:08 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Thor wrote:

A belief is not a hate crime nor should it ever be

You also need to keep up with the debates

Exactly

He struggles badly sexy.

He constantly invents things never said

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:12 am

I don't recall Smelly saying he had a problem with his brother being gay.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:13 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

What shit are you talking now???how could you possibly know anything about my relationship with my brother??

That's like me saying you hate your daughter, how could I possibly know anything about that???

You're just being an emotional idiot more so than usual.

But what we do know is that you consider homosexuality to be a sin, because you said that??

Do you think my brother would feel supported by you if you told him that his entire existence was a crime against God??

Do you think elizel likes the fact that you think he is sinful for being who he is???

You do realise that's a hate crime???

What do you think would happen if you went to soho and started telling gays that homosexuality is a sin, youd either get battered or arrested.

You and your religious view of homosexuality being a sin is bigotry

I can only believe what you write on here.

You said your brother is gay and you had a problem with that.

I apologise if that is not the case and I read it wrong.

Just because I believe something is a sin doesn’t mean I will announce it to every Tom dick and Harry!!!!

It’s up to everyone as an individual how they conduct themselves.

You are wrong.

I have never written in any forum at any time that I have a problem with my brother or any other gay person for being gay.

I don't know where you think you read that but it wasn't on any forum I've ever been on.

So you're a liar.

I don't have an issue with gay marriage either, I have an issue with militant gays wanting to force churches to perform gay marriage, would you like to see your mosque forced to hold a gay marriage??

Would you like to see some gay arsehole dressing up as muhhamad and performing lewd acts at a gay pride parade??

That's what Christians have to deal with all the time, but somehow because I reject homosupremacy I'm somehow the bigot.

Honestly you can't make it up

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:13 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't recall Smelly saying he had a problem with his brother being gay.

It was on a forum you didn’t post on Raggs

ADO

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:16 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I don't recall Smelly saying he had a problem with his brother being gay.

It was on a forum you didn’t post on Raggs

ADO

I think it was on inaflap or Ado, with the time when we debated Gay marriage. In the UK, before the vote. He said his brother was gay but against gay marriage

Yes smelly did say he was at odds with his brother being gay

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:16 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I don't recall Smelly saying he had a problem with his brother being gay.

It was on a forum you didn’t post on Raggs

ADO

I did post on it actually, but not for long. Laughing

Anyway, he says he didn't say it and he hasn't said it on here.

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:17 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

I can only believe what you write on here.

You said your brother is gay and you had a problem with that.

I apologise if that is not the case and I read it wrong.

Just because I believe something is a sin doesn’t mean I will announce it to every Tom dick and Harry!!!!

It’s up to everyone as an individual how they conduct themselves.

You are wrong.

I have never written in any forum at any time that I have a problem with my brother or any other gay person for being gay.

I don't know where you think you read that but it wasn't on any forum I've ever been on.

So you're a liar.

I don't have an issue with gay marriage either, I have an issue with militant gays wanting to force churches to perform gay marriage, would you like to see your mosque forced to hold a gay marriage??

Would you like to see some gay arsehole dressing up as muhhamad and performing lewd acts at a gay pride parade??

That's what Christians have to deal with all the time, but somehow because I reject homosupremacy I'm somehow the bigot.

Honestly you can't make it up

I’m not lying Smelly.

I may be wrong about your support but your brother is gay.

You mentioned he is gay otherwise how would I know this?

Anyway

In regards to your post even a gay person like Les has an issue with militant gays!

No one likes extremes in anything.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:18 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I don't recall Smelly saying he had a problem with his brother being gay.

It was on a forum you didn’t post on Raggs

ADO

A forum that now conveniently doesn't exist anymore

Yeah ok.

You've been caught out, and are now struggling to back peddle so you've got to deploy chaff by inventing lies and fiction.

I'm cool with that, I got you dead to rights

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:18 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

You are wrong.

I have never written in any forum at any time that I have a problem with my brother or any other gay person for being gay.

I don't know where you think you read that but it wasn't on any forum I've ever been on.

So you're a liar.

I don't have an issue with gay marriage either, I have an issue with militant gays wanting to force churches to perform gay marriage, would you like to see your mosque forced to hold a gay marriage??

Would you like to see some gay arsehole dressing up as muhhamad and performing lewd acts at a gay pride parade??

That's what Christians have to deal with all the time, but somehow because I reject homosupremacy I'm somehow the bigot.

Honestly you can't make it up

I’m not lying Smelly.

I may be wrong about your support but your brother is gay.

You mentioned he is gay otherwise how would I know this?

Anyway

In regards to your post even a gay person like Les has an issue with militant gays!

No one likes extremes in anything.

+1

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:20 am

Thor wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

It was on a forum you didn’t post on Raggs

ADO

I think it was on inaflap or Ado, with the time when we debated Gay marriage. In the UK, before the vote. He said his brother was gay but against gay marriage

Yes smelly did say he was at odds with his brother being gay

Thanks Didge x

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:22 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

It was on a forum you didn’t post on Raggs

ADO

A forum that now conveniently doesn't exist anymore

Yeah ok.

You've been caught out, and are now struggling to back peddle so you've got to deploy chaff by inventing lies and fiction.

I'm cool with that, I got you dead to rights

Oh puleeze!!!!

I don’t need to lie and as I said who do I know your brother is gay?

ERM

Because you told me

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:22 am

I think that people should stick to what's said on here, or at least be able to find the forum that they allegedly said something on, otherwise it's not really fair.

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:23 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

A forum that now conveniently doesn't exist anymore

Yeah ok.

You've been caught out, and are now struggling to back peddle so you've got to deploy chaff by inventing lies and fiction.

I'm cool with that, I got you dead to rights

Oh puleeze!!!!

I don’t need to lie and as I said who do I know your brother is gay?

ERM

Because you told me

He said it on this thread.

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:24 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

It was on a forum you didn’t post on Raggs

ADO

I did post on it actually, but not for long.

Anyway, he says he didn't say it and he hasn't said it on here.

I don’t know why he is hiding this now

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:24 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Oh puleeze!!!!

I don’t need to lie and as I said who do I know your brother is gay?

ERM

Because you told me

He said it on this thread.

Oh ok

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:25 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I think that people should stick to what's said on here, or at least be able to find the forum that they allegedly said something on, otherwise it's not really fair.

Is it fair how smelly goes after Eizel, because he is homosexual?

I actually think there is a connection here between what I have known smelly to say about homosexuality on a number of occasions and his brother. It may be his resentment is coming out onto Eizel

I know for a fact he said his brother was against gay marriage

He never said that on here did he Rags. So I have a good memmory to what people say

Who knows if this is his reason, but happy to move on from this and maybe Smelly should, from attacking Eizel and Sexy. As he is not being fair to either

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:27 am

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I think that people should stick to what's said on here, or at least be able to find the forum that they allegedly said something on, otherwise it's not really fair.

Is it fair how smelly goes after Eizel, because he is homosexual?

I actually think there is a connection here between what I have know smelly to say about homosexuality on a number of occasions and his brother. It may be his resentment is coming out onto Eizel

Who knows, but happy to move on from this and maybe Smelly should, from attacking Eizel and Sexy. As he is not being fair to either

He hasn't gone for Les for being gay, and he's questioning SM's views on homosexuality re her religion. There was a time when you would have done that yourself, and you would have pulled her up for them, but for some reason you seem to have decided to white knight her this time.

by SEXY MAMA Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:29 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I think that people should stick to what's said on here, or at least be able to find the forum that they allegedly said something on, otherwise it's not really fair.

I didn’t mean to attack him I was merely suggesting his views on gays. He called me a bigot and i was proving how he is one.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:29 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

You are wrong.

I have never written in any forum at any time that I have a problem with my brother or any other gay person for being gay.

I don't know where you think you read that but it wasn't on any forum I've ever been on.

So you're a liar.

I don't have an issue with gay marriage either, I have an issue with militant gays wanting to force churches to perform gay marriage, would you like to see your mosque forced to hold a gay marriage??

Would you like to see some gay arsehole dressing up as muhhamad and performing lewd acts at a gay pride parade??

That's what Christians have to deal with all the time, but somehow because I reject homosupremacy I'm somehow the bigot.

Honestly you can't make it up

I’m not lying Smelly.

I may be wrong about your support but your brother is gay.

You mentioned he is gay otherwise how would I know this?

Anyway

In regards to your post even a gay person like Les has an issue with militant gays!

No one likes extremes in anything.

You are wrong.

If all I did was mention the fact that he is gay, how do you conclude that I don't support him??

You're talking shit, now move on.

Elizel is about as hard line and militant as they get, he doesn't want EQUAL right he wants GAY rights.

Do you understand the distinction?? Its a very important difference between EQUAL rights and a set of rights that apply only to gays, it's pretty scary stuff and not exactly the stance of a moderate.

What do you think mama??

Would you like to live in a society that treats gays preferentially over you and I??

Do you think it's a rational and moderate position to want to create mutli tiered protected classes and sub classes within society??

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:30 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Is it fair how smelly goes after Eizel, because he is homosexual?

I actually think there is a connection here between what I have know smelly to say about homosexuality on a number of occasions and his brother. It may be his resentment is coming out onto Eizel

Who knows, but happy to move on from this and maybe Smelly should, from attacking Eizel and Sexy. As he is not being fair to either

He hasn't gone for Les for being gay, and he's questioning SM's views on homosexuality re her religion. There was a time when you would have done that yourself, and you would have pulled her up for them, but for some reason you seem to have decided to white knight her this time.

Yes he has and has gone after both and made countles spurious claims against them

For example, caliming Eizel wants to ban religious education, when he does not

I did question her beliefs, maybe you should look back

Smelly is not questioning, as he thinks he is a provocator

Dont forget these are based on smellys beliefs, not necessarily the beleifs of Sexy or Eizel and thus he is presuming

Like I say I know for a fact he said his brother was against gay marriage and its a very important factor to understand smellys contradictions here

Again happy to move on, but smelly needs to stop with the constant attacking

He has every right to be critical, but not make up crap, as he constantly does

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:32 am

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

He hasn't gone for Les for being gay, and he's questioning SM's views on homosexuality re her religion. There was a time when you would have done that yourself, and you would have pulled her up for them, but for some reason you seem to have decided to white knight her this time.

Yes he has and has gone after both and made countles spurious claims against them

For example, caliming Eizel wants to ban religious education, when he does not

I did question her beliefs, maybe you should look back

Smelly is not questioning, as he thinks he is a provocator

Dont forget these are based on smellys beliefs, not necessarily the beleifs of Sexy or Eizel and thus he is presuming

Like I say I know for a fact he said his brother was against gay marriage and its a very important factor to understand smellys contradictions here

Again happy to move on, but smelly needs to stop with the constant attacking

He has every right to be critical, but not make up crap, as he constantly does

Even if Smelly did say that, that's not the same as not supporting his brother is it? If his brother is gay and against gay marriage, that's up to him, it's no reflection on Smelly.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:33 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

I’m not lying Smelly.

I may be wrong about your support but your brother is gay.

You mentioned he is gay otherwise how would I know this?

Anyway

In regards to your post even a gay person like Les has an issue with militant gays!

No one likes extremes in anything.

Elizel is about as hard line and militant as they get, he doesn't want EQUAL right he wants GAY rights.

Do you understand the distinction?? Its a very important difference between EQUAL rights and a set of rights that apply only to gays, it's pretty scary stuff and not exactly the stance of a moderate.

You see case in point Rags

Eizel is not a militant or extremist and actually believes in equal rights and not seperate rights for gays

Hence attacking with lies

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:34 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Yes he has and has gone after both and made countles spurious claims against them

For example, caliming Eizel wants to ban religious education, when he does not

I did question her beliefs, maybe you should look back

Smelly is not questioning, as he thinks he is a provocator

Dont forget these are based on smellys beliefs, not necessarily the beleifs of Sexy or Eizel and thus he is presuming

Like I say I know for a fact he said his brother was against gay marriage and its a very important factor to understand smellys contradictions here

Again happy to move on, but smelly needs to stop with the constant attacking

He has every right to be critical, but not make up crap, as he constantly does

Even if Smelly did say that, that's not the same as not supporting his brother is it? If his brother is gay and against gay marriage, that's up to him, it's no reflection on Smelly.

Nobody said he does not support his brother. They said he was at odds, over him being gay, due to his beliefs

A huge difference

It was smelly that brought this into the debate before.

This is not an attack on his brother, but helps guages smelly's opinion on the topic

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:38 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I think that people should stick to what's said on here, or at least be able to find the forum that they allegedly said something on, otherwise it's not really fair.

I didn’t mean to attack him I was merely suggesting his views on gays. He called me a bigot and i was proving how he is one.

No you weren't suggesting what my views were

You were outright dictating to me what my views are and then attacking me based on the views you had assigned to me

It's called the strawman argument and you do it all the time.

When did I say I have an issue with my brother, it never happend, but facts or the lack of facts don't matter when it comes to building a straw man

Reality doesn't factor into it, all you need to do is build a narrative pin it to my strawman and then me because of the story you've just dreamed up.

Its lazy and sloppy

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:38 am

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Even if Smelly did say that, that's not the same as not supporting his brother is it? If his brother is gay and against gay marriage, that's up to him, it's no reflection on Smelly.

Nobody said he does not support his brother. They said he was at odds, over him being gay, due to his beliefs

A huge difference

It was smelly that brought this into the debate before.

This is not an attack on his brother, but helps guages smelly's opinion on the topic

SM said that Smelly doesn't support his brother.

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:39 am

SEXY MAMA wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

What shit are you talking now???how could you possibly know anything about my relationship with my brother??

That's like me saying you hate your daughter, how could I possibly know anything about that???

You're just being an emotional idiot more so than usual.

But what we do know is that you consider homosexuality to be a sin, because you said that??

Do you think my brother would feel supported by you if you told him that his entire existence was a crime against God??

Do you think elizel likes the fact that you think he is sinful for being who he is???

You do realise that's a hate crime???

What do you think would happen if you went to soho and started telling gays that homosexuality is a sin, youd either get battered or arrested.

You and your religious view of homosexuality being a sin is bigotry

I can only believe what you write on here.

You said your brother is gay and you had a problem with that.

I apologise if that is not the case and I read it wrong.

Just because I believe something is a sin doesn’t mean I will announce it to every Tom dick and Harry!!!!

It’s up to everyone as an individual how they conduct themselves.

For Rags

by Guest Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:40 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Yes he has and has gone after both and made countles spurious claims against them

For example, caliming Eizel wants to ban religious education, when he does not

I did question her beliefs, maybe you should look back

Smelly is not questioning, as he thinks he is a provocator

Dont forget these are based on smellys beliefs, not necessarily the beleifs of Sexy or Eizel and thus he is presuming

Like I say I know for a fact he said his brother was against gay marriage and its a very important factor to understand smellys contradictions here

Again happy to move on, but smelly needs to stop with the constant attacking

He has every right to be critical, but not make up crap, as he constantly does

Even if Smelly did say that, that's not the same as not supporting his brother is it? If his brother is gay and against gay marriage, that's up to him, it's no reflection on Smelly.

I did say that Eilzel wants to ban religious teaching in schools

He clearly stated that he wants to ban faith schools

by Raggamuffin Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:40 am

For Didge.

The difference between me and you is that I don’t care about a person’s sexuality but you do.

You don’t even support your brother.

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