GENERAL ELECTION 2017: The Results

by eddie Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:54 pm

First topic message reminder :

Post results.

I voted Libdems in the end.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:24 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You said you didn't vote because it's a safe seat, not because you didn't want to vote for any of the parties.

I suggest you read other thread Rags

That was your first mistake here

Opps

I live in a very safe Tory seat, so what would have been the point in voting?

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:28 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:

I suggest you read other thread Rags

That was your first mistake here

Opps

I live in a very safe Tory seat, so what would have been the point in voting?

So what have been the point in voting rags?

Thank you for proving my point

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:29 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So what have been the point in voting rags?

Thank you for proving my point

You just proved my point actually. Well done.

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:33 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:

So what have been the point in voting rags?

Thank you for proving my point

You just proved my point actually. Well done.

To vote for nobody?

I agree

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:34 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You just proved my point actually. Well done.

To vote for nobody?

I agree

You just proved my point that you failed to vote because you thought it would be a wasted vote.

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:37 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:

To vote for nobody?

I agree

You just proved my point that you failed to vote because you thought it would be a wasted vote.

But it was a waste of time to vote

So you proved my point

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:41 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You just proved my point that you failed to vote because you thought it would be a wasted vote.

But it was a waste of time to vote

So you proved my point

You just proved my point, so you could have saved your breath several posts ago.

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:46 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:

But it was a waste of time to vote

So you proved my point

You just proved my point, so you could have saved your breath several posts ago.

What point?

I made my point

I back no party

So what good would voting do?

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:47 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You just proved my point, so you could have saved your breath several posts ago.

What point?

I made my point

I back no party

So what good would voting do?

So why point out that it's a safe seat at all then? You didn't vote because your vote wouldn't have made a difference - IYO.

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:

What point?

I made my point

I back no party

So what good would voting do?

So why point out that it's a safe seat at all then? You didn't vote because your vote wouldn't have made a difference - IYO.

Easy

I back no party

My single vote will make no difference

As I back no party

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:52 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So why point out that it's a safe seat at all then? You didn't vote because your vote wouldn't have made a difference - IYO.

Easy

I back no party

My single vote will make no difference

As I back no party

Why mention it's a safe seat?

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:55 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:

Easy

I back no party

My single vote will make no difference

As I back no party

Why mention it's a safe seat?

Because it is, and my vote would have no difference.

by Victorismyhero Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:03 pm

get a room you two Laughing

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:04 pm

Lord Foul wrote:get a room you two

Do you mind, I am trying to be romantic lol!

by Victorismyhero Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:07 pm

Thorin wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:get a room you two

Do you mind, I am trying to be romantic

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try saying it with flowers....and NOOOOOO

I dont mean calling her a geranium Razz

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:14 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Thorin wrote:

Do you mind, I am trying to be romantic

try saying it with flowers....and NOOOOOO

I dont mean calling her a geranium

You will love these, so enjoy mate

http://mentalfloss.com/article/58036/50-words-sound-rude-actually-arent

by Fred Moletrousers Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:22 pm

sassy wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Since you are obviously intent on making yourself appear even more ridiculous, then so be it.

Perhaps taking the cowardly option in facilitating the spreading of what to even the most intellectually challenged are filthy and disgusting lies about a poster whose account has been conveniently removed so that he cannot respond is more your forte.

Not my forte at all, I come on and confront you in person, and unlike you, I don't resort to sexist abuse when you can't handle being wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8EEQrZBKoc

by Guest Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:54 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
sassy wrote:

Not my forte at all, I come on and confront you in person, and unlike you, I don't resort to sexist abuse when you can't handle being wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8EEQrZBKoc

Not quite the gentleman you pretend to be.

by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:01 pm

I'm getting dizzy from all the spinning that has been getting so heavily churned out lately...

The level of lies and spin have been truly astronomical...!

Only surpassed by the level of stupidity that has been reached by many of the people who actually believe the bullshit...!!!

by Victorismyhero Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:05 pm

and thats from BOTH sides tommy

the whole feckin thing is a sick joke.....

should lock the lot of em in the chamber and not feed or water em untill they all agree a common policy that will benefit the nation.....

by 'Wolfie Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:24 am

sassy wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8EEQrZBKoc

Not quite the gentleman you pretend to be.

Fred is definitely a sexist pig -- as shown by his regular attacks against sassy, and other women..

Fred is a racist -- as shown by his regular pathetic apologies over British colonial crimes..

Fred is a nationalist nutter -- clearly demonstrated in his rabid attacks against me, veya and Quill.

Thorin, nicko and Victor may may well find that old fuckbrain Fred a charming old soul, but I can't imagine Moletrousers having too many supporters amongst the non-English members on here..

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:31 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
sassy wrote:

Not quite the gentleman you pretend to be.

Fred is definitely a sexist pig -- as shown by his regular attacks against sassy, and other women..

Fred is a racist -- as shown by his regular pathetic apologies over British colonial crimes..

Fred is a nationalist nutter -- clearly demonstrated in his rabid attacks against me, veya and Quill.

Thorin, nicko and Victor may may well find that old fuckbrain Fred a charming old soul, but I can't imagine Moletrousers having too many supporters amongst the non-English members on here..

Really?

Show me any post, where Fred has been sexist?

Show me any post, where Fred has been racist?

Show me any post, where Fred has been Nationalistic nutter?

I find your immaturity embarrassing. That yet again, you make unfounded accusations at people. This is all the Far left are able to do. They cannot counter views made by the likes of Fred and instead as you do, scream "racist". You then actually make this racist based on a view, non-English people would support him, even though Quill does support Fred as a poster. He may not agree on views, but Quill likes Fred. As do I, as he rarely if ever is abusive. And more than anything is generally impartial. Where many here are swayed by their confirmation bias.

So learn to grow up and put up or shut up on your false accusations.

Thanks

by Andy Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:33 am

Also likes to talk about himself.
Did you know he spent 75 years in journalism.
Has interviewed world leaders and is chummy with them.

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:35 am

Angry Andy wrote:Also m likes to talkabot himself.
Did you know he spent 75 years in journalism.
Has interviewed world leaders and is chummy with them.

Seems you are jealous Andy.

I love the individual history of posters here.

It helps us warm to each other.

Just like when you offered Eddie advice the other night, of which I am glad you both moved past the friction between you.

Do you not agree?

Also why not condemn Wolf over his false allegations here to Fred?

Do you agree with Wolf?

by Fred Moletrousers Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:37 am

sassy wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8EEQrZBKoc

Not quite the gentleman you pretend to be.

Not when dealing with someone silly enough to read, and obviously not understand, a constructive compliment to her party and leader and respond with the ladylike reply of "utter bollocks."

by Fred Moletrousers Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:39 am

Angry Andy wrote:Also likes to talk about himself.
Did you know he spent 75 years in journalism.
Has interviewed world leaders and is chummy with them.

Oh look, the little lapdog has entered the forum yapping pathetically for a pat on the head.

by Andy Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:28 am

Says Flops minion.

by HoratioTarr Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:36 am

The Tories fought a terrible campaign, and yet Corbyn still lost.

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:41 am

HoratioTarr wrote:The Tories fought a terrible campaign, and yet Corbyn still lost.

A very telling point.

How will Labour supporters respond to this fact?

by Eilzel Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:46 am

Corbyn had the entire RW press against him, and has been undermined by the 'LW media' (so, the Guardian and Independent) since he became leader. And still came within a few thousands votes in marginal seats of becoming Prime Minister.

No one gave him a chance before the election campaign, me included. In 2 months he has gone from 20 pts behind the Tories to almost level. Pretty impressive, all it took was the broadcast media giving him a fair hearing.

A few years of Tory/DUP/Scottish Tory squabbling and imagine what he can do then...

I'd say he's done very well and looks very promising if this Tory led coalition of chaos fails Wink

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:49 am

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
sassy wrote:

Not quite the gentleman you pretend to be.

Not when dealing with someone silly enough to read, and obviously not understand, a constructive compliment to her party and leader and respond with the ladylike reply of "utter bollocks."

Oh I read and understood it, there's not much I don't understand, but there was nothing constructive about it. What it actually showed was that you are completely behind the times and have no idea why we knew there was going to be a huge swing to JC and that the newspapers and TV are now completely irrelevant. So, you thought it was constructive, I thought it was bollocks. And if you have never heard a lady say 'bollocks' before, you have led a very sheltered life.

by HoratioTarr Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:51 am

Eilzel wrote:Corbyn had the entire RW press against him, and has been undermined by the 'LW media' (so, the Guardian and Independent) since he became leader. And still came within a few thousands votes in marginal seats of becoming Prime Minister.

No one gave him a chance before the election campaign, me included. In 2 months he has gone from 20 pts behind the Tories to almost level. Pretty impressive, all it took was the broadcast media giving him a fair hearing.

A few years of Tory/DUP/Scottish Tory squabbling and imagine what he can do then...

I'd say he's done very well and looks very promising if this Tory led coalition of chaos fails

Bollocks

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by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:52 am

Eilzel wrote:Corbyn had the entire RW press against him, and has been undermined by the 'LW media' (so, the Guardian and Independent) since he became leader. And still came within a few thousands votes in marginal seats of becoming Prime Minister.

No one gave him a chance before the election campaign, me included. In 2 months he has gone from 20 pts behind the Tories to almost level. Pretty impressive, all it took was the broadcast media giving him a fair hearing.

A few years of Tory/DUP/Scottish Tory squabbling and imagine what he can do then...

I'd say he's done very well and looks very promising if this Tory led coalition of chaos fails

I think you mean Coalition of Chaos with links to Terrorists lol. In fact, as it seems that having a coalition with the DUP might very well be against the rules of the Good Friday Agreement and the Tory knives are already out for May, I'd be very surprised if it lasts any time. Just the right way to go about having a good basis for Brexit negotiations!

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:57 am

Eilzel wrote:Corbyn had the entire RW press against him, and has been undermined by the 'LW media' (so, the Guardian and Independent) since he became leader. And still came within a few thousands votes in marginal seats of becoming Prime Minister.

No one gave him a chance before the election campaign, me included. In 2 months he has gone from 20 pts behind the Tories to almost level. Pretty impressive, all it took was the broadcast media giving him a fair hearing.

A few years of Tory/DUP/Scottish Tory squabbling and imagine what he can do then...

I'd say he's done very well and looks very promising if this Tory led coalition of chaos fails

I love you loads Eilzel, but the above was bullshit Laughing

Many UKIP supporters voted for LABOUR and these are the reasons why,.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t21067-why-did-london-remainers-vote-labour-and-why-didn-t-the-middle-classes-stay-blue-stephen-fisher-on-the-election-that-defied-all-logic#403091

And Students

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t21068-11billion-tuition-fee-bribe-saw-18-to-24-year-olds-rush-to-vote-for-labour-as-turnout-for-the-age-group-rose-to-74#403137

by Eilzel Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:59 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Corbyn had the entire RW press against him, and has been undermined by the 'LW media' (so, the Guardian and Independent) since he became leader. And still came within a few thousands votes in marginal seats of becoming Prime Minister.

No one gave him a chance before the election campaign, me included. In 2 months he has gone from 20 pts behind the Tories to almost level. Pretty impressive, all it took was the broadcast media giving him a fair hearing.

A few years of Tory/DUP/Scottish Tory squabbling and imagine what he can do then...

I'd say he's done very well and looks very promising if this Tory led coalition of chaos fails

Bollocks

Whatever. Arrogance just cocked up the Tories plans once. Carry on with it by all means lol

by Eilzel Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:01 am

sassy wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Corbyn had the entire RW press against him, and has been undermined by the 'LW media' (so, the Guardian and Independent) since he became leader. And still came within a few thousands votes in marginal seats of becoming Prime Minister.

No one gave him a chance before the election campaign, me included. In 2 months he has gone from 20 pts behind the Tories to almost level. Pretty impressive, all it took was the broadcast media giving him a fair hearing.

A few years of Tory/DUP/Scottish Tory squabbling and imagine what he can do then...

I'd say he's done very well and looks very promising if this Tory led coalition of chaos fails

I think you mean Coalition of Chaos with links to Terrorists lol. In fact, as it seems that having a coalition with the DUP might very well be against the rules of the Good Friday Agreement and the Tory knives are already out for May, I'd be very surprised if it lasts any time. Just the right way to go about having a good basis for Brexit negotiations!

Quite right lol
Probay won't have to wait 5 years for another election...

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:02 am

Eilzel wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

Bollocks

Whatever. Arrogance just cocked up the Tories plans once. Carry on with it by all means lol

I agree it was arrogance, but are not Labour being also arrogant mate?

Either both are wrong or both right?

In my book, both are wrong, hence why I never voted.

by Eilzel Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:03 am

Thorin wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Corbyn had the entire RW press against him, and has been undermined by the 'LW media' (so, the Guardian and Independent) since he became leader. And still came within a few thousands votes in marginal seats of becoming Prime Minister.

No one gave him a chance before the election campaign, me included. In 2 months he has gone from 20 pts behind the Tories to almost level. Pretty impressive, all it took was the broadcast media giving him a fair hearing.

A few years of Tory/DUP/Scottish Tory squabbling and imagine what he can do then...

I'd say he's done very well and looks very promising if this Tory led coalition of chaos fails

I love you loads Eilzel, but the above was bullshit

Many UKIP supporters voted for LABOUR and these are the reasons why,.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t21067-why-did-london-remainers-vote-labour-and-why-didn-t-the-middle-classes-stay-blue-stephen-fisher-on-the-election-that-defied-all-logic#403091

And Students

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t21068-11billion-tuition-fee-bribe-saw-18-to-24-year-olds-rush-to-vote-for-labour-as-turnout-for-the-age-group-rose-to-74#403137

If you say so. The Right underestimated Corbyn once though. Would love to see them do it again Wink

by Raggamuffin Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:04 am

Eilzel wrote:Corbyn had the entire RW press against him, and has been undermined by the 'LW media' (so, the Guardian and Independent) since he became leader. And still came within a few thousands votes in marginal seats of becoming Prime Minister.

No one gave him a chance before the election campaign, me included. In 2 months he has gone from 20 pts behind the Tories to almost level. Pretty impressive, all it took was the broadcast media giving him a fair hearing.

A few years of Tory/DUP/Scottish Tory squabbling and imagine what he can do then...

I'd say he's done very well and looks very promising if this Tory led coalition of chaos fails

He had the Mirror in his favour - they really went for the Tories. Laughing

I've always said that the sticking point for me was his lack of condemnation for the IRA, and I stand by that.

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:07 am

Eilzel wrote:
Thorin wrote:

I love you loads Eilzel, but the above was bullshit

Many UKIP supporters voted for LABOUR and these are the reasons why,.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t21067-why-did-london-remainers-vote-labour-and-why-didn-t-the-middle-classes-stay-blue-stephen-fisher-on-the-election-that-defied-all-logic#403091

And Students

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t21068-11billion-tuition-fee-bribe-saw-18-to-24-year-olds-rush-to-vote-for-labour-as-turnout-for-the-age-group-rose-to-74#403137

If you say so. The Right underestimated Corbyn once though. Would love to see them do it again

The German Jews and the world underestimated Hitler
Would you love to see another Hitler do this again?
Do you see how poor your argument is?

by Eilzel Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:09 am

That wasn't a line of argument tbf lol

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:21 am

Eilzel wrote:That wasn't a line of argument tbf lol

You made it so on your methodology mate.... Cool

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:27 am

So Dodge reckons that the DUP will have no influence on the Tories.

Tory minister on radio 4 today says they will have a vote on reducing time limits on abortion in exchange for DUP support.

Meanwhile, in London today:

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by Fred Moletrousers Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:29 am

Angry Andy wrote:Says Flops minion.

You can trot off back to your kennel now and tell the big doggie all about it. He might even give you a mini bonio for yapping so bravely.

The kennel maid has made sure that nothing can get back to me.

And I would imagine that "Flop" would question the word "minion", given my poor record of posting and my somewhat unenthusiastic, er, support for the Tories during this election campaign.

Or is all this "minioning" somewhat difficult for you to find - like all those "chummy conversations" with racists that you were proved to have lied about?

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:30 am

Lol.
So how are they going to convince 640 other MP's sassy?

Are you saying the Tories are anti-abortion?

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:31 am

What do people think of these policies by the DUP?

The DUP manifesto is rather better in places than that Conservative manifesto:

The DUP pledged:

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[*]To reduce the rate of Corporation Tax to at least 12.5%;

[*]To freeze then cut or abolish the TV licence and reform the BBC;

[*]To cut the VAT rate for tourism businesses;

[*]To introduce a Trade Accelerator Plan including an enhanced range of initiatives to help support both new and existing exporters to explore new markets;

[*]To abolish Air Passenger Duty;

[*]To establish low tax, deregulated Freeports in economically underdeveloped parts of the UK

[*]To reduce the number of Government Departments and reduce the number of Special Advisors;

[*]To introduce a Civil Service Voluntary Exit Scheme yielding annual savings of approximately £100 million;

[*]To create new trade, investment and innovation hubs in key global markets;

[*]To introduce alternative models of public sector service delivery such as increasing the use of social enterprises.

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by Raggamuffin Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:37 am

sassy wrote:So Dodge reckons that the DUP will have no influence on the Tories.

Tory minister on radio 4 today says they will have a vote on reducing time limits on abortion in exchange for DUP support.

What kind of reduction? If you mean a shorter cut-off point, that's a good thing.

by Fred Moletrousers Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:39 am

sassy wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Not when dealing with someone silly enough to read, and obviously not understand, a constructive compliment to her party and leader and respond with the ladylike reply of "utter bollocks."

Oh I read and understood it, there's not much I don't understand, but there was nothing constructive about it. What it actually showed was that you are completely behind the times and have no idea why we knew there was going to be a huge swing to JC and that the newspapers and TV are now completely irrelevant. So, you thought it was constructive, I thought it was bollocks. And if you have never heard a lady say 'bollocks' before, you have led a very sheltered life.

Given that you obviously regard any comment that represents political sentiment slightly to the right of Mao T'se Tung as "bollocks" and clearly understand anything not issued by the Labour Party press office far less than you think you do, nothing that you say would surprise me - "sheltered life" of not.

JC, by the way, does not stand for Jesus Christ, and we unbelievers are allowed to speak his (with a small 'h') name without having to genuflect.

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:46 am

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
sassy wrote:

Oh I read and understood it, there's not much I don't understand, but there was nothing constructive about it. What it actually showed was that you are completely behind the times and have no idea why we knew there was going to be a huge swing to JC and that the newspapers and TV are now completely irrelevant. So, you thought it was constructive, I thought it was bollocks. And if you have never heard a lady say 'bollocks' before, you have led a very sheltered life.

Given that you obviously regard any comment that represents political sentiment slightly to the right of Mao T'se Tung as "bollocks" and clearly understand anything not issued by the Labour Party press office far less than you think you do, nothing that you say would surprise me - "sheltered life" of not.

JC, by the way, does not stand for Jesus Christ, and we unbelievers are allowed to speak his (with a small 'h') name without having to genuflect.

How silly was that lol. Nope, he's definitely not Jesus, he's just a man with enough guts to stand up and take the hate and the flack for espousing ideas and views that we agree with. Nobody's had the courage to do that for a long time.

And when I said you understand nothing, you reinforced that by referring to the a press office. The one journalist who has finally 'got it' is Jon Snow:

Jon Snow admits the media 'know nothing'

World news Last night

Channeling that *other* Jon Snow, Channel 4 presenter Jon Snow has summed up how badly journalists got the UK election wrong, saying he, and other pundits “know nothing.”

by Guest Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:51 am

sassy wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Given that you obviously regard any comment that represents political sentiment slightly to the right of Mao T'se Tung as "bollocks" and clearly understand anything not issued by the Labour Party press office far less than you think you do, nothing that you say would surprise me - "sheltered life" of not.

JC, by the way, does not stand for Jesus Christ, and we unbelievers are allowed to speak his (with a small 'h') name without having to genuflect.

How silly was that lol. Nope, he's definitely not Jesus, he's just a man with enough guts to stand up and take the hate and the flack for espousing ideas and views that we agree with. Nobody's had the courage to do that for a long time.

And when I said you understand nothing, you reinforced that by referring to the a press office. The one journalist who has finally 'got it' is Jon Snow:

Jon Snow admits the media 'know nothing'

World news Last night

Channeling that *other* Jon Snow, Channel 4 presenter Jon Snow has summed up how badly journalists got the UK election wrong, saying he, and other pundits “know nothing.”

So why has he for decades supported extremists?

Its a fair question sassy

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