Is It Mainly Immigrants Who Kill People In The UK Now?

PhilDidge wrote:

ALLAKAKA wrote:

The Accusations of being a BNP / EDL member or indeed a member of some  Extreme right wing group is their only answer.

No its just stating facts about how the BNP argue using pseudo science of which as seen you are using the same argument as is Victor, so why are all 3 of you using the same argument here?

ALLAKAKA wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:



No its just stating facts about how the BNP argue using pseudo science of which as seen you are using the same argument as is Victor, so why are all 3 of you using the same argument here?

I've not stated any stats from the BNP.

I'm asking a simple question on the UNDISCLOSED origin of a serial sex attacker and asking if  there is ANY statistical likelihood he will be ASIAN .Or is it more likely a statistical fact he could be described as indigenous.


You seem to be afraid of committing yourself to an answer on this.

smelly_bandit wrote:incorrect

the Nazis were white and they caused one of the darkest bloodiest periods in human history

the KKK where white and represented the worst form of the most pure racism in the white race

these two examples however are anomalies in the history of an advanced and otherwise civilized race of human  

Muslims on the other hand are comprised of ALL races of human and have established a pattern of brutal and barbaric warmongering behavior dating back to the 7th century

their savagery and barbarism and backwardness cannot be attributed to the levels of melanin in their skin since "Muslim" is not a group that is formed based on skin color

and as such a white Muslim can be significantly more savage and inhuman than a black Christian or Asian atheist

as usual you and apparently now your champion ben have not understood my views at all

Sassy wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Exposing what, that now where I was not involved, you are claiming I manipulated the others, one moment

 ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: 

You were the guilty one, in factask any on there if I had anything to do with your melt down?

Please do, hilarious I am now being blamed for you posting details about posters, you really cannot make it up how badly guilty you are to now blame me when I was never involved.

Please some more of Victor being a paranoid loon this is priceless  

@Didge

I never posted any personal details, Quill is the one that did that.

@FTL

I suggest you read back and see where Victor got the truth out of Didge, where he establishes that Didge manipulated you lot to stop being Mods.

Re the previous bitchfest you and Nems and Didge directed at me then don't get dragged in like you did by your friend. I ignored three posts directed at me and they were not witty by any means. You then piped up by saying ...

The logic is equivalent to "it's all about me me me" and "look at me me me". The reason for the protest fades into the background because it's more about the protesters than the cause

Sorry Irn, I wasn't referring to Margaretta tbh

To be honest Irn this thread has descended into "I've protested for the cause", "I'm a better protester and more committed than you" and "You are weak willed and never protested against anything which makes you a bad person"    

More about the protester and little about the cause itself

Some people will use anything to try and win an online argument  


These were all directed at me by you. And the first mention you got was from your friend who said...

It was only to get at me Didge, Im sorry you got caught up in it.

You're friend then posted...

Its as FTL correctly states some will do anything because winning an online argument is everything

I've gone back and amended my post to say 'your friend' instead of FTL so that you don't get so upset in future and you are unable to play the victim card when clearly you were actively involved in the discussion.

I will add, my illness was brought up because Nems deliberately targeted something she knew I couldn't do at the moment to provoke and Didge commented it was witty.    Being the 'little miss, look at me, aren't I a sweet, look at all the emoticons I post, I must be lovely' when in fact the two of you are schoolyard schoolgirl bullybitches, you jumped on it.   Well, I might be down at the moment, but I'm not out, and you start on me and I will get up, chew you up and spit out the pieces.   Others might be fooled by you, I know how manipulative you are and spiteful to the nth degree.   You try to portray yourself as this wouldn't hurt a fly, girly, oh so cute, fluffy toy figure.   But that isn't the truth is it?   The real FTL is quite happy to get together a gang to persue someone who was a friend, because they had the audacity to say they were not going to do what you wanted them to do, dared to disagree, so for months and months you manipulate others to carry on your spiteful vendetta, never minding who it hurts.   It's not me who is the manipulator, I come straight out with what I think and people know where I stand on everything.   You, little miss smarmy, put on one face while doing another and throw your hands up in horror when anyone bites back.   Well tough, because I know you, and I know what you are, a manipulative, devious, two faced bitch.  

PhilDidge wrote:

ALLAKAKA wrote:



I've not stated any stats from the BNP.

I'm asking a simple question on the UNDISCLOSED origin of a serial sex attacker and asking if  there is ANY statistical likelihood he will be ASIAN .Or is it more likely a statistical fact he could be described as indigenous.


You seem to be afraid of committing yourself to an answer on this.

Again I stated you are using the same argument as the BNP, do you understand that, which means both the BNP and you are using the same pseudo science to make claims about ethnicity with crimes, do you understand that?

You are asking me to guess who the attacker would be based on pseudo science?

In other words you could only  guess, as it could be anyone, how on earth can anyone know, you can only guess?

How many times would you be wrong by guessing?

Sassy wrote:When you stop the stidey asides about me, that you then pretend you haven't said.   Until then, you'll get it back plus 200%.   So if you don't like it, stop doing it.

ALLAKAKA wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Again I stated you are using the same argument as the BNP, do you understand that, which means both the BNP and you are using the same pseudo science to make claims about ethnicity with crimes, do you understand that?

You are asking me to guess who the attacker would be based on pseudo science?

In other words you could only  guess, as it could be anyone, how on earth can anyone know, you can only guess?

How many times would you be wrong by guessing?

Probability BASED on Percentages of ethnic origin.


A 10% chance of being Non-Indigenous as opposed to a 90% chance of being indigenous.

PhilDidge wrote:

grumpy old git wrote:

Hey...dont shoot me...i just quoted bare figures.....make of em what you will....I havnt...anywhere......... made any statement equating anything with anything....

you see heres the problem....

all I did was post the figures asked for...unadulterated and raw

and digi poo immediately becomes nasty and accused me of being a racist BNP supporter because those figures require intelligence to make rational sense of.

also if 90% of sex attacks are carried out by a group representing 86% of the population (which is whats being claimed here ...I dont have the actual figures to hand)

then we need to know what % are being carried out by the other ethinc groups seperately to draw a proper conclusion...by your own logic the simple statement that 90% are carried out by the 86% group is meaningless

No you used there argument, here read for yourself:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/which-races-commit-most-crime


So your argument is now on many different white ethnic groups, but not so for Asian or black then by that point, by saying other ethnic groups, when all you posted was white, Asian, black, mixed ect, seems now you are making more pseudo science as you go along when the stats do not go in your favour

PhilDidge wrote:

Sassy wrote:When you stop the stidey asides about me, that you then pretend you haven't said.   Until then, you'll get it back plus 200%.   So if you don't like it, stop doing it.

She was not involved here, you dragged her into it just like you did the last time, can you not even see that.
For once in your life move on and stop dragging up the past, it may have escaped your attention you once got on in life now you are acting as if you are back on the playground

Drop it and move on not only is it boring its pathetic and all this over me laughing, sorry I take it back my laughing now and I am sorry if it will get you to finally shut up!

ALLAKAKA wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:



No its just stating facts about how the BNP argue using pseudo science of which as seen you are using the same argument as is Victor, so why are all 3 of you using the same argument here?

I've not stated any stats from the BNP.

I'm asking a simple question on the UNDISCLOSED origin of a serial sex attacker and asking if  there is ANY statistical likelihood he will be ASIAN .Or is it more likely a statistical fact he could be described as indigenous.


You seem to be afraid of committing yourself to an answer on this.

grumpy old git wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:



No you used there argument, here read for yourself:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/which-races-commit-most-crime


So your argument is now on many different white ethnic groups, but not so for Asian or black then by that point, by saying other ethnic groups, when all you posted was white, Asian, black, mixed ect, seems now you are making more pseudo science as you go along when the stats do not go in your favour

No didge..you see this is the point.....Im NOT making ANY claim...at all....the figures are there....make of em what you will...
YOU simply ascribe non -existant false claims to me which I have not made, in order to boost you over inflated ego, and cause conflict where no existed...

Sassy wrote:When you stop the stidey asides about me, that you then pretend you haven't said.   Until then, you'll get it back plus 200%.   So if you don't like it, stop doing it.

feelthelove wrote:

Sassy wrote:When you stop the stidey asides about me, that you then pretend you haven't said.   Until then, you'll get it back plus 200%.   So if you don't like it, stop doing it.

Please don't threaten me, I don't know why you feel the need to keep dragging up the past.

smelly_bandit wrote:

ALLAKAKA wrote:



I've not stated any stats from the BNP.

I'm asking a simple question on the UNDISCLOSED origin of a serial sex attacker and asking if  there is ANY statistical likelihood he will be ASIAN .Or is it more likely a statistical fact he could be described as indigenous.


You seem to be afraid of committing yourself to an answer on this.

didge wouldn't commit to answering whether or not water is wet

feelthelove wrote:

Sassy wrote:When you stop the stidey asides about me, that you then pretend you haven't said.   Until then, you'll get it back plus 200%.   So if you don't like it, stop doing it.

Please don't threaten me, I don't know why you feel the need to keep dragging up the past.

PhilDidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:incorrect

the Nazis were white and they caused one of the darkest bloodiest periods in human history

the KKK where white and represented the worst form of the most pure racism in the white race

these two examples however are anomalies in the history of an advanced and otherwise civilized race of human  

Muslims on the other hand are comprised of ALL races of human and have established a pattern of brutal and barbaric warmongering behavior dating back to the 7th century

their savagery and barbarism and backwardness cannot be attributed to the levels of melanin in their skin since "Muslim" is not a group that is formed based on skin color

and as such a white Muslim can be significantly more savage and inhuman than a black Christian or Asian atheist

as usual you and apparently now your champion ben have not understood my views at all

Except you missed Communist Russia, 30 million, the conquest of the Americas top est 100 million, do you wish me to continue with your flawed logic, as not anomalies far from it!

PhilDidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

didge wouldn't commit to answering whether or not water is wet

I did answer did I not dear smelly, just like you have backed down from your last post as am waiting in the wings to provide you with more evidence to refute your absurd ideas.

My answer was I would not know

smelly_bandit wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Except you missed Communist Russia, 30 million, the conquest of the Americas top est 100 million, do you wish me to continue with your flawed logic, as not anomalies far from it!

very much anomalies since they are not continuous periods nor are they carried out by the same white ethnic groups, communist Russia was an ideological killing spree not a racial one

the conquest of the Americas was exactly that - a conquest, hardly unlikely that there isn't going to be some killing going on

the point is that you have incorrectly understood my views which has resulted in you shrieking about wacism.

PhilDidge wrote:

feelthelove wrote:

Please don't threaten me, I don't know why you feel the need to keep dragging up the past.

To be honest FTL not getting involved in these old feuds anymore, it is now getting a joke, you did no wrong here, I would as you always do better than many, rise above, as you are much better than many of us for being able to do that. It just spoils it for others wanting to debate here with these constant spats and you have done no wrong to even then have to explain yourself.

Enjoy your birthday as you should on all days and not have anything spoil your day


xxx

smelly_bandit wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


I did answer did I not dear smelly, just like you have backed down from your last post as am waiting in the wings to provide you with more evidence to refute your absurd ideas.

My answer was I would not know

what  are you waffling about now??

im still arguing in favour of my last post didge

you really should take your meds

Sassy wrote:Oh FTL and Nems have been practicing really hard and are masters of the art now.

PhilDidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

very much anomalies since they are not continuous periods nor are they carried out by the same white ethnic groups, communist Russia was an ideological killing spree not a racial one

the conquest of the Americas was exactly that - a conquest, hardly unlikely that there isn't going to be some killing going on

the point is that you have incorrectly understood my views which has resulted in you shrieking about wacism.

But still white though smelly, surely what is the difference you have now on ethnicity that is different biologically?

Oh there was lots of butchering going on as well in the Americas, by why stop there lets look at many more shall we


http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm

http://necrometrics.com/wars19c.htm

PhilDidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

what  are you waffling about now??

im still arguing in favour of my last post didge

you really should take your meds

Your last post just got spanked all the way to the moon

PhilDidge wrote:But we have other stats Victor

Like 95% of peados in prison are White

smelly_bandit wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


But still white though smelly, surely what is the difference you have now on ethnicity that is different biologically?

Oh there was lots of butchering going on as well in the Americas, by why stop there lets look at many more shall we


http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm

http://necrometrics.com/wars19c.htm

you're still not grasping it

you can flood us with tales of slaughter throughout history all day long and you still wont be any closer to understanding what i have been saying all this time

the fact that you continue to try and make your point by overwhelming us with irrelevant tales of slaughter throughout history proves that you will NEVER understand what i have been saying all this time

i suggest you stop thinking and just do what you do best and call me a racist

ALLAKAKA wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:But we have other stats Victor

Like 95% of peados in prison are White

Does that mean our children are safer in the company of Non-Whites.

smelly_bandit wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Your last post just got spanked all the way to the moon

grumpy old git wrote:true, but you could break it down in 10,000 ways...

for instance


of the paedos, what % of each ethnic group are involved in "grooming" gangs...careful where you go with that

you see..if you break things down enough you can plead any cause you want

"its very difficult to remember the task is to drain the swamp, when you are up to your ass in aligators"
is an appropriate saying....

what really matters , indeed ALL that matters to the people "out there" is head line figures, breaking down stats as you are fond of is seen as (and probably is) an attempt to divert from the truth which hits most....

those HEADLINE figures...

lies damn lies and statistics...especially statistics that are minced....

PhilDidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

you're still not grasping it

you can flood us with tales of slaughter throughout history all day long and you still wont be any closer to understanding what i have been saying all this time

the fact that you continue to try and make your point by overwhelming us with irrelevant tales of slaughter throughout history proves that you will NEVER understand what i have been saying all this time

i suggest you stop thinking and just do what you do best and call me a racist

Smelly do you or do you not believe black people are inferior to white, as you have often debated with me?

So I know exactly what you have always been saying, that you are a by product of Apartheid, hence your posting of people in the third world earlier as savages

So please spare me you are not a racist, you happened to be the biggest one that never admits you are,


So do you now claim blacks are not inferior to whites

Take your time

smelly_bandit wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Smelly do you or do you not believe black people are inferior to white, as you have often debated with me?

So I know exactly what you have always been saying, that you are a by product of Apartheid, hence your posting of people in the third world earlier as savages

So please spare me you are not a racist, you happened to be the biggest one that never admits you are,


So do you now claim blacks are not inferior to whites

Take your time

you haven't got the faintest idea what i have been saying because you're little mind shuts down when reality bites

i have made it clear that based on the state of Africa compared to the state of Europe, it is my view that the black RACE must be generally inferior to the white RACE since they have not been able to lift themselves out of poverty disease and self inflicted genocide despite the vast amounts of financial aid and expertise and effort that the generally white west have given to them

this however is what you see

i have made it clear that..................................., it is my view that the black RACE...................inferior to the white RACE

you're not interested in the logic behind it, which has nothing to do with racism, because that would mean you have to think outside your little comfort zone, and youre not comfortable doing that

i don't care if you think im a racist because i know you have no idea what real life racism is

PhilDidge wrote:I see the level has dropped again by allakaka when he has nothing of worth to counter with, no suprise there then

ALLAKAKA wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:I see the level has dropped again by allakaka when he has nothing of worth to counter with, no suprise there then

Don't worry Didgiepoos i'll be replying to and posting youtube videos on the thread of MY CHOICE.

Sassy wrote:

feelthelove wrote:

Please don't threaten me, I don't know why you feel the need to keep dragging up the past.

You did on Friday night, and you're not going to get away with doing it again.

smelly_bandit wrote:like i said

stop thinking and do what you're best at - calling me a racist

you cannot counter my views with anything credible since you know that the state of Africa is centuries in the past when compared to Europe or America, and that anything that IS modern and technologically advanced in Africa comes from the minds of other races

you know that if we had to go to the "what race has contributed the most towards humanity" game, you're precious blacks would be bottom of the league  

NemsAgain wrote:

Sassy wrote:

You did on Friday night, and you're not going to get away with doing it again.

You utterly nasty sly manipulative lying fucking bitch.

You deliberately dragged FTL and I into this thread when we werent even here.

You did it because its her birthday. You utter horror.

Congratulations you have upset her as you intended.

For the record.

I resigned as a mod because of you

and only because of you.

You started fights with the posters and when losing you started endless threads on the mod board slagging them of.

You set out to get Didge banned by constantly baiting him and moaning about him.

You wanted anyone that didnt agree with you gone.

Admin backed you unconditionally - their mistake and what did you do?
You repaid that loyalty by showing you were in charge and untouchable so you posted a picture that you knew had the same name as Quill.
You should know his name you had been researching him since ADO.

Dont you dare give any bullshit about him posting info this was way way before the bridge stuff he shared.
You said you had tried to trace Beekeeper through the Australian Beekeepers Association. You know his real name and address you said. When I pulled you on that - more lies saying it was the God Squad you were finding.

What is wrong with you??!!
Stop schleping your tales of woe round this forum you are no victim except perhaps of your own spite.
Leave me the fuck alone.

PhilDidge wrote:

grumpy old git wrote:true, but you could break it down in 10,000 ways...

for instance


of the paedos, what % of each ethnic group are involved in "grooming" gangs...careful where you go with that

you see..if you break things down enough you can plead any cause you want

"its very difficult to remember the task is to drain the swamp, when you are up to your ass in aligators"
is an appropriate saying....

what really matters , indeed ALL that matters to the people "out there" is head line figures, breaking down stats as you are fond of is seen as (and probably is) an attempt to divert from the truth which hits most....

those HEADLINE figures...

lies damn lies and statistics...especially statistics that are minced....

Grooming represents 3% of child sex crime Victor


In 2012/13 the police in England and Wales recorded:

5,156 offences of rape of a female child under 16

1,138 offences of rape of a male child under 16

4,171 offences of sexual assault on a female child under 13

1,267 offences of sexual assault on a male child under 13

6,634 offences of sexual activity involving a child under 16

176 offences of abuse of children through prostitution and pornography

373 offences of sexual grooming.


So those stats matter only per year,

Disagree, since the figures only change slightly from year to year and, if there IS a sudden change we require to know why....what else has changed
we have to take into account crime over many and when debating on if ethnicity is a factor to look at crime world over, again disagree, crime in outer mongolia or wherever doesnt change the FACTS as to what is going on here
so again the flawed use of stats is just that with crime and ethnicity, it bases a premise based on a non factor the ethnicity, when it is more on the fact they are humans

grumpy old git wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Grooming represents 3% of child sex crime Victor


In 2012/13 the police in England and Wales recorded:

5,156 offences of rape of a female child under 16

1,138 offences of rape of a male child under 16

4,171 offences of sexual assault on a female child under 13

1,267 offences of sexual assault on a male child under 13

6,634 offences of sexual activity involving a child under 16

176 offences of abuse of children through prostitution and pornography

373 offences of sexual grooming.


So those stats matter only per year,

Disagree, since the figures only change slightly from year to year and, if there IS a sudden change we require to know why....what else has changed
we have to take into account crime over many and when debating on if ethnicity is a factor to look at crime world over, again disagree, crime in outer mongolia or wherever doesnt change the FACTS as to what is going on here
so again the flawed use of stats is just that with crime and ethnicity, it bases a premise based on a non factor the ethnicity, when it is more on the fact they are humans

the above argument is ONLY valid, if you consider the world as an homogenous and utterly interconnected whole, when clearly, when you are restricted (practically, not hypotheically) to one area ONLY things relevant to that area are valid.

perhaps  instead of saying we are looking at the stats on a racial bassi, we said we are looking at the stats on a regional basis to see if there is any bias towards one race or another committing any given crime IN THAT AREA, then we would be asking a better question

NemsAgain wrote:

Sassy wrote:

You did on Friday night, and you're not going to get away with doing it again.

You utterly nasty sly manipulative lying fucking bitch.

You deliberately dragged FTL and I into this thread when we werent even here.

You did it because its her birthday. You utter horror.

Congratulations you have upset her as you intended.

For the record.

I resigned as a mod because of you

and only because of you.

You started fights with the posters and when losing you started endless threads on the mod board slagging them of.

You set out to get Didge banned by constantly baiting him and moaning about him.

You wanted anyone that didnt agree with you gone.

Admin backed you unconditionally - their mistake and what did you do?
You repaid that loyalty by showing you were in charge and untouchable so you posted a picture that you knew had the same name as Quill.
You should know his name you had been researching him since ADO.

Dont you dare give any bullshit about him posting info this was way way before the bridge stuff he shared.
You said you had tried to trace Beekeeper through the Australian Beekeepers Association. You know his real name and address you said. When I pulled you on that - more lies saying it was the God Squad you were finding.

What is wrong with you??!!
Stop schleping your tales of woe round this forum you are no victim except perhaps of your own spite.
Leave me the fuck alone.

PhilDidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:like i said

stop thinking and do what you're best at - calling me a racist

you cannot counter my views with anything credible since you know that the state of Africa is centuries in the past when compared to Europe or America, and that anything that IS modern and technologically advanced in Africa comes from the minds of other races

you know that if we had to go to the "what race has contributed the most towards humanity" game, you're precious blacks would be bottom of the league  

Now that is the post of someone very delusional in their beliefs, like I said a by product of apartheid, someone so clueless he does not understand the biology of humans and uses scientific racism, which is defined by everyone as, except racists themselves. I said it would be a laugh a minute with smelly, so deluded he even thinks he is right after being shown countless times he is wrong. He knows little of history judging that he thinks only whites have had civilization. I mean using his logic and where Asians became more advanced technology wise than thus because of their continuing growing wealth, which has every chance of happening,using his illogical view would thus place them as superior to whites, again using a period of time, which he cannot grasp. So absurd and silly it is comical

100% top entertainment

smelly_bandit wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Now that is the post of someone very delusional in their beliefs, like I said a by product of apartheid, someone so clueless he does not understand the biology of humans and uses scientific racism, which is defined by everyone as, except racists themselves. I said it would be a laugh a minute with smelly, so deluded he even thinks he is right after being shown countless times he is wrong. He knows little of history judging that he thinks only whites have had civilization. I mean using his logic and where Asians became more advanced technology wise than thus because of their continuing growing wealth, which has every chance of happening,using his illogical view would thus place them as superior to whites, again using a period of time, which he cannot grasp. So absurd and silly it is comical

100% top entertainment

what THE fuck are you waffling about???
You being a racist

not a single thing in all of that made any sense
That is because you are delusional which all can see and even deny you are what you are, a racist

for example

"someone so clueless he does not understand the biology of humans and uses scientific racism, which is defined by everyone as, except racists themselves"

what the fuck does this even mean??

 ::dunno::  ::smthg::  ::smthg::  ::dunno:: 

ALLAKAKA wrote:

NemsAgain wrote:

You utterly nasty sly manipulative lying fucking bitch.

You deliberately dragged FTL and I into this thread when we werent even here.

You did it because its her birthday. You utter horror.

Congratulations you have upset her as you intended.

For the record.

I resigned as a mod because of you

and only because of you.

You started fights with the posters and when losing you started endless threads on the mod board slagging them of.

You set out to get Didge banned by constantly baiting him and moaning about him.

You wanted anyone that didnt agree with you gone.

Admin backed you unconditionally - their mistake and what did you do?
You repaid that loyalty by showing you were in charge and untouchable so you posted a picture that you knew had the same name as Quill.
You should know his name you had been researching him since ADO.

Dont you dare give any bullshit about him posting info this was way way before the bridge stuff he shared.
You said you had tried to trace Beekeeper through the Australian Beekeepers Association. You know his real name and address you said. When I pulled you on that - more lies saying it was the God Squad you were finding.

What is wrong with you??!!
Stop schleping your tales of woe round this forum you are no victim except perhaps of your own spite.
Leave me the fuck alone.

Calm down dear , Sassy is living proof that Chemo cannot cure Nastiness and Bile.