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Post by Guest Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:54 pm

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Just found this bit of information as i think the Syrian refugees refusing food parcels from red cross charities is ungrateful .

"Allah tells us in the Qur'an that we may eat of the good food of Christians and Jews. Therefore, unless there is a specific reason for the prohibition of a particular type of food prepared by such people, it is permissible to eat it.

So what's their problem ?

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Post by nicko Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:38 pm

I look at Songs of Praise on tv on a Sunday night and see all these people singing with a look of rapture on their faces, and I think so many so many delusional people, how can any intelligent person believe in this. Of course if it gives them pleasure and they are happy with it who am I to burst their bubble!
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:42 pm

nicko wrote:I look at Songs of Praise on tv on a Sunday night and see all these people singing with a look of rapture on their faces,   and I think so many so many delusional people, how can any intelligent person believe in this. Of course if it  gives them pleasure and they are happy with it who am I to burst their bubble!  

Good point on not wanting to burst someones bubble if happy Nicko

Emotions give way to reason Nicko, which is why to me a supreme intelligence would not have cause or need to be emotional. Its true though that intelligence people are swayed by emotions with religion. As long as people do not try to impose their beliefs on others and they are personal beliefs, then that is fine, let them believe what they want.

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:50 pm

A lot of people are far too concerned about the personal religious beliefs of others IMO.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:52 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:A lot of people are far too concerned about the personal religious beliefs of others IMO.


Because they normally effect other people.
Where these beliefs imposed range from anything like a county court clerk denying marriage licences to enslaving and raping Girls. I would say that warrants being concerned.

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:54 pm

nicko wrote:I look at Songs of Praise on tv on a Sunday night and see all these people singing with a look of rapture on their faces,   and I think so many so many delusional people, how can any intelligent person believe in this. Of course if it  gives them pleasure and they are happy with it who am I to burst their bubble!  

Don't forget that they're on the telly ...
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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:57 pm

It wouldn't matter if a religious person never mentioned their religion, some people would still judge them for it and call them "silly".

Why some of you can't just mind your own business is a mystery to me. Perhaps a lot of people think you're silly too.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:00 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:It wouldn't matter if a religious person never mentioned their religion, some people would still judge them for it and call them "silly".

Why some of you can't just mind your own business is a mystery to me. Perhaps a lot of people think you're silly too.


Do you not judge peoples beliefs?
They do not have to be religious.
They can be political for example
They can be social beliefs

So do you mind your own buisness when it comes to these beleifs?

I would say not.

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:02 pm

At least that's an admission that you do stick your nose in other people's private business and judge them for their religious faith, whether it affects you or anyone else, or not.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:06 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:At least that's an admission that you do stick your nose in other people's private business and judge them for their religious faith, whether it affects you or anyone else, or not.

I have never denied I question peoples belief, we see it done here daily, even more so when those beliefs are so irrational and passed onto children.
I happilly wear the badge because do you speak out on religious people trying to convert others?
Again no, I just think its important to challenge irrational beliefs.
The point is you are being hypocritical as you do challenge peoples beliefs.

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:07 pm

It certainly is done here daily - over and over again. One would think people would get bored of it ...
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:12 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:It certainly is done here daily - over and over again. One would think people would get bored of it ...


Again are you against relgious people openly challenging anothers people in the view to convert them?
Nobody is forcing you to read anything here, but to some of us such religious beliefs effect directly and indirectly others.
Its very important to question beliefs, why are you and some others do afraid of this?

One simple answer, you have doubt.
A person of strong faith and belief rises to the challenge, look at sexy on here, she did not get offended when I directly challenged her faith, she enagaged in the discussion. Zack he made poor excuses and avoided it. So that shows to me Sexy is strong in her beliefs and that Zack is not, as a person with faith does not shy away from speaking about their faith, even more so when challenged.


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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:13 pm

nicko wrote:I look at Songs of Praise on tv on a Sunday night and see all these people singing with a look of rapture on their faces,   and I think so many so many delusional people, how can any intelligent person believe in this. Of course if it  gives them pleasure and they are happy with it who am I to burst their bubble!  

Intelligent people Believe in all manner of utterly insane concepts

Climate change??

Democracy?

Utterly insane concepts that don't exist anywhere in the world, yet still sobre intelligent folks believe.

The concept of God is as old as man, any wonder people still believe?

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:15 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
nicko wrote:I look at Songs of Praise on tv on a Sunday night and see all these people singing with a look of rapture on their faces,   and I think so many so many delusional people, how can any intelligent person believe in this. Of course if it  gives them pleasure and they are happy with it who am I to burst their bubble!  

Intelligent people Believe in all manner of utterly insane concepts

Climate change??

Democracy?

Utterly insane concepts that don't exist anywhere in the world, yet still sobre intelligent folks believe.

The concept of God is as old as man, any wonder people still believe?


Climate change, has evidence Dutchman, a old bearded man in the sky does not.

Democracy can and does work, there is evidence for this.

Maybe this is why you struggle

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:17 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:It certainly is done here daily - over and over again. One would think people would get bored of it ...


Again are you against relgious people openly challenging anothers people in the view to convert them?
Nobody is forcing you to read anything here, but to some of us such religious beliefs effect directly and indirectly others.
Its very important to question beliefs, why are you and some others do afraid of this?

One simple answer, you have doubt.
A person of strong faith and belief rises to the challenge, look at sexy on here, she did not get offended when I directly challenged her faith, she enagaged in the discussion. Zack he made poor excuses and avoided it. So that shows to me Sexy is strong in her beliefs and that Zack is not, as a person with faith does not shy away from speaking about their faith, even more so when challenged.

There isn't much else to read about here though is there? The real mystery is why people pander to your obsession.

Zack isn't obliged to answer your questions, and if you want to judge him for that, it just makes you a prat.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:20 pm

Don't you mean global warming??

Oh yeah i forgot, that's what they USED to call climate change before they realised it wasn't working and needed to rebrand it as "climate change"

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:21 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:


Again are you against relgious people openly challenging anothers people in the view to convert them?
Nobody is forcing you to read anything here, but to some of us such religious beliefs effect directly and indirectly others.
Its very important to question beliefs, why are you and some others do afraid of this?

One simple answer, you have doubt.
A person of strong faith and belief rises to the challenge, look at sexy on here, she did not get offended when I directly challenged her faith, she enagaged in the discussion. Zack he made poor excuses and avoided it. So that shows to me Sexy is strong in her beliefs and that Zack is not, as a person with faith does not shy away from speaking about their faith, even more so when challenged.

There isn't much else to read about here though is there? The real mystery is why people pander to your obsession.

Zack isn't obliged to answer your questions, and if you want to judge him for that, it just makes you a prat.


There is countless different thread
Not much point being and posting on a thread avoding points made, that is running scared.
I easily drawn you in to post just as I am doig now.
You should ask yourself why you are being easily drawn in

Look its tough luck if you do not like some of the discussions here which just further proves my point on how over sensitive some religious people are

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:22 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

There isn't much else to read about here though is there? The real mystery is why people pander to your obsession.

Zack isn't obliged to answer your questions, and if you want to judge him for that, it just makes you a prat.


There is countless different thread
Not much point being and posting on a thread avoding points made, that is running scared.
I easily drawn you in to post just as I am doig now.
You should ask yourself why you are being easily drawn in

Look its tough luck if you do not like some of the discussions here which just further proves my point on how over sensitive some religious people are

You didn't draw me in. I just like to point out what an obsessed person you are, and point out that you're a busybody when it comes to personal faith.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:23 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:Don't you mean global warming??

Oh yeah i forgot, that's what they USED to call climate change before they realised it wasn't working and needed to rebrand it as "climate change"  


Oh they use Global warming Dutchman as well, so no idea why you do not look at the evidence or is it just the fact you cannot understand the evidence.
No problem that is understandable and why you keep screaming denying it

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:24 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:


There is countless different thread
Not much point being and posting on a thread avoding points made, that is running scared.
I easily drawn you in to post just as I am doig now.
You should ask yourself why you are being easily drawn in

Look its tough luck if you do not like some of the discussions here which just further proves my point on how over sensitive some religious people are

You didn't draw me in. I just like to point out what an obsessed person you are, and point out that you're a busybody when it comes to personal faith.


I just made you post again and as seen the more you do not like a response the more you get shirty and upset with your comments. I find it hilarious to be honest myself.
Like I say at least Sexy has faith and is not afraid to engage speaking about her faith.

Now you are boring so I shall leave you to sulk lol

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:25 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You didn't draw me in. I just like to point out what an obsessed person you are, and point out that you're a busybody when it comes to personal faith.


I just made you post again and as seen the more you do not like a response the more you get shirty and upset with your comments. I find it hilarious to be honest myself.
Like I say at least Sexy has faith and is not afraid to engage speaking about her faith.

Now you are boring so I shall leave you to sulk lol

Laughing

You didn't make me post. I posted from my own free will.

I find you stupid, boring, obsessed, hateful, and moronic.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:28 pm

What evidence?? The evidence presented by Al gore?? The presenting of which coincidently happened to make him very rich

If science is so reliable then why aren't ALL scientists United on global warming........ Oops I mean climate change??

Surely if the evidence is so accurate all scientists would agree??

Science is after all a proven science

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:33 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:What evidence??  The evidence presented by Al gore??  The presenting of which coincidently happened to make him very rich

If science is so reliable then why aren't ALL scientists United on global warming........ Oops I mean climate change??

Surely if the evidence is so accurate all scientists would agree??

Science is after all a proven science


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1"Climate's changed before"Climate reacts to whatever forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant forcing.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
2"It's the sun"
In the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been going in opposite directions
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3"It's not bad"Negative impacts of global warming on agriculture, health & environment far outweigh any positives.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
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97% of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming.
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5"It's cooling"The last decade 2000-2009 was the hottest on record.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
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8"Animals and plants can adapt"Global warming will cause mass extinctions of species that cannot adapt on short time scales.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
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10"Antarctica is gaining ice"Satellites measure Antarctica losing land ice at an accelerating rate.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
11"Ice age predicted in the 70s"The vast majority of climate papers in the 1970s predicted warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
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15"Ocean acidification isn't serious"Ocean acidification threatens entire marine food chains.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
16"Hockey stick is broken"Recent studies agree that recent global temperatures are unprecedented in the last 1000 years.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
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18"Hurricanes aren't linked to global warming"There is increasing evidence that hurricanes are getting stronger due to global warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
19"Al Gore got it wrong"
Al Gore's book is quite accurate, and far more accurate than contrarian books.
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20"Glaciers are growing"Most glaciers are retreating, posing a serious problem for millions who rely on glaciers for water.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
21"It's cosmic rays"Cosmic rays show no trend over the last 30 years & have had little impact on recent global warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
22"1934 - hottest year on record"1934 was one of the hottest years in the US, not globally.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
23"It's freaking cold!"A local cold day has nothing to do with the long-term trend of increasing global temperatures.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
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25"Sea level rise is exaggerated"A variety of different measurements find steadily rising sea levels over the past century.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
26"It's Urban Heat Island effect"Urban and rural regions show the same warming trend.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
27"Medieval Warm Period was warmer"Globally averaged temperature now is higher than global temperature in medieval times.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
28"Mars is warming"Mars is not warming globally.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
29"Arctic icemelt is a natural cycle"Thick arctic sea ice is undergoing a rapid retreat. non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
30"Increasing CO2 has little to no effect"The strong CO2 effect has been observed by many different measurements.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
31"Oceans are cooling"The most recent ocean measurements show consistent warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
32"It's a 1500 year cycle"Ancient natural cycles are irrelevant for attributing recent global warming to humans.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
33"Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions"The natural cycle adds and removes CO2 to keep a balance; humans add extra CO2 without removing any.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
34"IPCC is alarmist"
Numerous papers have documented how IPCC predictions are more likely to underestimate the climate response.
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35"Water vapor is the most powerful greenhouse gas"
Rising CO2 increases atmospheric water vapor, which makes global warming much worse.
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36"Polar bear numbers are increasing"Polar bears are in danger of extinction as well as many other species.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
37"CO2 limits will harm the economy"
The benefits of a price on carbon outweigh the costs several times over.
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38"It's not happening"
There are many lines of evidence indicating global warming is unequivocal.
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39"Greenland was green"Other parts of the earth got colder when Greenland got warmer.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
40"Greenland is gaining ice"Greenland on the whole is losing ice, as confirmed by satellite measurement.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
41"CO2 is not a pollutant"
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42"CO2 is plant food"
The effects of enhanced CO2 on terrestrial plants are variable and complex and dependent on numerous factors
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43"Other planets are warming"Mars and Jupiter are not warming, and anyway the sun has recently been cooling slightly.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
44"Arctic sea ice has recovered"Thick arctic sea ice is in rapid retreat.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
45"There's no empirical evidence"There are multiple lines of direct observations that humans are causing global warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
46"There's no correlation between CO2 and temperature"There is long-term correlation between CO2 and global temperature; other effects are short-term.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
47"We're coming out of the Little Ice Age"
Scientists have determined that the factors which caused the Little Ice Age cooling are not currently causing global warming
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48"It cooled mid-century"Mid-century cooling involved aerosols and is irrelevant for recent global warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
49"Global warming stopped in 1998, 1995, 2002, 2007, 2010, ????"
Global temperature is still rising and 2010 was the hottest recorded.
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50"CO2 was higher in the past"
When CO2 was higher in the past, the sun was cooler.

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51"It warmed before 1940 when CO2 was low"Early 20th century warming is due to several causes, including rising CO2.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
52"Satellites show no warming in the troposphere"The most recent satellite data show that the earth as a whole is warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
53"It's aerosols"Aerosols have been masking global warming, which would be worse otherwise.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
54"It's El Niño"El Nino has no trend and so is not responsible for the trend of global warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
55"2009-2010 winter saw record cold spells"A cold day in Chicago in winter has nothing to do with the trend of global warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
56"Mt. Kilimanjaro's ice loss is due to land use"Most glaciers are in rapid retreat worldwide, notwithstanding a few complicated cases.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
57"It's not us"Multiple sets of independent observations find a human fingerprint on climate change.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
58"It's a natural cycle"No known natural forcing fits the fingerprints of observed warming except anthropogenic greenhouse gases. non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
59"There's no tropospheric hot spot"We see a clear "short-term hot spot" - there's various evidence for a "long-term hot spot".non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
60"It's Pacific Decadal Oscillation"The PDO shows no trend, and therefore the PDO is not responsible for the trend of global warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
61"Scientists can't even predict weather"Weather and climate are different; climate predictions do not need weather detail.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
62"IPCC were wrong about Himalayan glaciers"
Glaciers are in rapid retreat worldwide, despite 1 error in 1 paragraph in a 1000 page IPCC report.
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63"Greenhouse effect has been falsified"The greenhouse effect is standard physics and confirmed by observations.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
64"2nd law of thermodynamics contradicts greenhouse theory"The 2nd law of thermodynamics is consistent with the greenhouse effect which is directly observed.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
65"CO2 limits will hurt the poor"
Those who contribute the least greenhouse gases will be most impacted by climate change.
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66"The science isn't settled"That human CO2 is causing global warming is known with high certainty & confirmed by observations.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
67"Clouds provide negative feedback"Evidence is building that net cloud feedback is likely positive and unlikely to be strongly negative.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
68"Sea level rise predictions are exaggerated"Sea level rise is now increasing faster than predicted due to unexpectedly rapid ice melting.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
69"It's the ocean"The oceans are warming and moreover are becoming more acidic, threatening the food chain.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
70"IPCC were wrong about Amazon rainforests"
The IPCC statement on Amazon rainforests was correct, and was incorrectly reported in some media.
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71"Corals are resilient to bleaching"Globally about 1% of coral is dying out each year.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
72"Volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans"Humans emit 100 times more CO2 than volcanoes.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
73"CO2 effect is saturated"Direct measurements find that rising CO2 is trapping more heat.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
74"Greenland ice sheet won't collapse"When Greenland was 3 to 5 degrees C warmer than today, a large portion of the Ice Sheet melted.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
75"CO2 is just a trace gas"Many substances are dangerous even in trace amounts; what really matters is the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
76"It's methane"Methane plays a minor role in global warming but could get much worse if permafrost starts to melt.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
77"CO2 has a short residence time"Excess CO2 from human emissions has a long residence time of over 100 yearsnon halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
78"CO2 measurements are suspect"CO2 levels are measured by hundreds of stations across the globe, all reporting the same trend.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
79"Humidity is falling"Multiple lines of independent evidence indicate humidity is rising and provides positive feedback.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
80"500 scientists refute the consensus"Around 97% of climate experts agree that humans are causing global warming.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
81"Neptune is warming"And the sun is cooling.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
82"Springs aren't advancing"Hundreds of flowers across the UK are flowering earlier now than any time in 250 years.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
83"Jupiter is warming"Jupiter is not warming, and anyway the sun is cooling.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
84"It's land use"Land use plays a minor role in climate change, although carbon sequestration may help to mitigate.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
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86"CO2 is not increasing"CO2 is increasing rapidly, and is reaching levels not seen on the earth for millions of years.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
87"Record snowfall disproves global warming"Warming leads to increased evaporation and precipitation, which falls as increased snow in winter.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
88"They changed the name from 'global warming' to 'climate change'"
'Global warming' and 'climate change' mean different things and have both been used for decades.
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91"IPCC overestimate temperature rise"
Monckton used the IPCC equation in an inappropriate manner.
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92"Pluto is warming"And the sun has been recently cooling.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
93"CO2 is not the only driver of climate"Theory, models and direct measurement confirm CO2 is currently the main driver of climate change.non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 Icon_twitter
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95"Arctic was warmer in 1940"
The actual data show high northern latitudes are warmer today than in 1940.
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When you account for all of the costs associated with burning coal and other fossil fuels, like air pollution and health effects, in reality they are significantly more expensive than most renewable energy sources.
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Global sea level data shows that sea level rise has been increasing since 1880 while future sea level rise predictions are based on physics, not statistics.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:35 pm

It might help Dutchman if you made some reasoned arguments instead of taking drivel.


Just a thopught mind

Plenty more for you to understand and help educated you here


https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:38 pm

Climate change non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 3986371719

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:39 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:Climate change non halal and syrian refugees - Page 4 3986371719


There, there Dutchman, its okay, no need to be alarmed, do you need a hug lol??
The point is recognizing a problem and then how to deal with it

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:40 pm

It amazes me how some people can believe there is an invisible man in the sky playing around with the climate and causing it to change

Ideological fanatics

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:41 pm


of course climate change is real

climate change has always been real and constantly happening since the time the earth was formed,,,,,or created

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:42 pm

Why would I be alarmed at a man made myth

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:43 pm

Constant?
End of the last Ice age would kind of disagree with that statement Gelico.
When Volcanoes erupt would disagree with that statement.

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:43 pm

gelico again wrote:
of course climate change is real

climate change has always been real and constantly happening since the time the earth was formed,,,,,or created

HERETIC

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:44 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:Why would I be alarmed at a man made myth


I would be more alarmed at your own ignorance on the subject.
What would be prudent ist to study the evidence which I have given you a very good link which shows the claims people like yourself make.

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:48 pm


I have actually heard a couple of twats on BBC/radio try to say that mass immigration is needed because of people fleeing 'climate change'...!!!



Seems the lefties will use any excuse to try to justify mass immigration!!!
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:48 pm

I've seen sites like that before Walter and I can in turn provide you with a list of claims made by people. Like you and the relevant counters

I will ask again, if science is so reliable then why haven't all scientists reached the same conclusion??

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:52 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:I've seen sites like that before Walter and I can  in turn provide you with a list of claims made by people. Like you and the relevant counters

I will ask again, if science is so reliable then why  haven't all scientists reached the same conclusion??


Science is an ever going provess of learning.
What they do is come to a concensus based on the evidence and 97 percent of these scientists agree
Of the 3 percent that do not agree all have their hands paid for by the energy power giants, which is telling in itself.
There has not been one peer reviewed paper that rebukes climate change.
What is even more absurd by your view is why would so many scientists make this all up?
You would have to provide a reason why men of knowledge who question their own work and the point of science is to be objectional. Why would they create such a conspiracy.
The point is you undertand very little about the science on this. I do not claim to be an expert on this, but I can certainly understand the evidence which is staggering.

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:58 pm

Dodge... you understand fuck all about anything!!!



You post wall long copy and paste stuff that you are confused by in the hope that others are confused by it too!!!


lol!
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:58 pm

So basically the science behind climate change is "an ever going process of learning "

In others words "in dispute and inconclusive"


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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:59 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge... you understand fuck all about anything!!!



You post wall long copy and paste stuff that you are confused by in the hope that others are confused by it too!!!


lol!

You are on fire tonight

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:59 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:

I will ask again, if science is so reliable then why  haven't all scientists reached the same conclusion??

because (somewhat ironically) scientists are like religious folk in that respect,,,,,each one convinced that they are right, and the others wrong

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:00 pm

gelico again wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

I will ask again, if science is so reliable then why  haven't all scientists reached the same conclusion??

because (somewhat ironically) scientists are like religious folk in that respect,,,,,each one convinced that they are right, and the others wrong

Ideological fanatics aren't all religious

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge... you understand fuck all about anything!!!



You post wall long copy and paste stuff that you are confused by in the hope that others are confused by it too!!!


lol!

that made me laugh lol!

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:02 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:So basically the science behind climate change is "an ever going process of learning "

In others words "in dispute and inconclusive"



Oh my.
But of the evidence so far points to them being 98 percent sure of man made claimate change.
In scientific terms, that as about as near accurate as you can get.
In other words you just want to ignore the evidence and want to place your fingers in your ears and go.


'la la la la, I'm not listening, la la la la'

You keep doing that Dutchman and allow the scientists to do there work and put into places the best ways forward to help protect the future for humanity, as I doubt the views of some simpleton grunt is going to make any difference to that,

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:02 pm

gelico again wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge... you understand fuck all about anything!!!



You post wall long copy and paste stuff that you are confused by in the hope that others are confused by it too!!!


lol!

that made me laugh  lol!


Little things please little minds.

Laughing

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:14 pm

Come on dodge...98% sure!?


It was 97% a little while ago...!!!



Easy mistake to make... just like when you were telling us how many children you had...


I know numbers (or even facts) aren't your strong points!!!


lol!


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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:19 pm

97 percent of scientists agree

Of the 97 percent they are 98 percent sure based on the evidence of man made global warming

Tommy exposing the forum to his poor mathematics again

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Seriously Tommy you continually expose that you are a thicky

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:21 pm

Look everyone is Twatty

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Bless him


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Thanks Twatty, now I shall leave you to huff and puff

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Post by SEXY MAMA Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:31 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:


My parents used fear and violence because this was all they knew, and it was wrong, as we did live in fear, it made me loathe and dispise them and not love them, to the point when I moved out I did not speak to them for a few years.
Fear is good at pointing out dangerous things to warn children from harm, but a parent that who uses fear with physical is never good. Where a child is warned of fire, now the parent is also seen as dangereous, which is not a good teaching method.

A child should be growing up in a caring, loving environment.

Agreed (again)

Children growing up "fearing their parents"??? What???

I think SM may be confusing "fear" with "respect"

No im well aware of the difference between respect and fear thanks eddie.

I feared my father but i loved him the most too as i said earlier one can use both emotions.

The relationship with God is of fear and love.
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Post by SEXY MAMA Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:33 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:


Really news to me!


Everything about Islam is news to you

I remember when you were surprised to learn that the punishment for adultery was 100 lashes

You're not the best Muslim around after all

Oh for the love of God!

Are you serious?

I said 100 lashes was too brutal a punishment for Adultry!

Im a Muslim born and bred and you think you know more than me!

You really do make me chuckle
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Post by eddie Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:57 pm

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eddie wrote:And that's one of the reasons why, I could never follow a religion.


If more people had the kind of beleif you have instead of religious dogmas. Where yours does not impose anything on anyone else, or has any silly commands, just a belief in the existance of a deity. We would be living in a far more stable, world today.

That's why I call it a God or whatever word you want to use, light, spirit, fate, nature etc

Religion is a set of rules that no one seems to agree on or understand, and if you can't agree on rules or understand them, all you have is chaos.

Having said that, I don't take away from anyone's right to have a religion; used in the right sense, it can bring warmth, and comfort and a sense of calm.
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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:00 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:


If more people had the kind of beleif you have instead of religious dogmas. Where yours does not impose anything on anyone else, or has any silly commands, just a belief in the existance of a deity. We would be living in a far more stable, world today.

That's why I call it a God or whatever word you want to use, light, spirit, fate, nature etc

Religion is a set of rules that no one seems to agree on or understand, and if you can't agree on rules or understand them, all you have is chaos.

Having said that, I don't take away from anyone's right to have a religion; used in the right sense, it can bring warmth, and comfort and a sense of calm.

The opposite of chaos then.

Those who don't understand religious faith should stop fretting about it.
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