Typical far rw reply in a debate.

by Andy Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:51 pm

First topic message reminder :

Having an intelligent debate on a lesser forum regarding Josh bonehead and his ludicrous invented Daily Bale blog, and who should pipe up, the mouthpiece of the tory party, Hughie Jardon, with this intellectual reply:

FFS...is that the very best that you can come
up with, you docile c--t?
In what way do I have such an impediment,
cuntwit?
And as per your question.....I couldn't give a
fuck what that knobhead thinks, posts or
says....in fact I couldn't give a fuck if the
silly twat was involved in a side on collision
with an intercity 125... with you ( hopefully)
riding shotgun.

And Dean wonders why the Flop forum is failing dismally against this fine place - where, it behoves me to say it, it is possible to have good debate with most folk of all political persuasion.

by Guest Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:14 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Catman wrote:

Pleaded with you to fight against enemies.. :\\:[: :\\:[: .....I really don't think so!

Awww, you don't remember all those PMs you sent me about Mentor and how he was picking on you?

Nope.

by Raggamuffin Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:18 pm

Catman wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Awww, you don't remember all those PMs you sent me about Mentor and how he was picking on you?

Nope.

I could always post them elsewhere - just to remind you. Wink

by Guest Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:21 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Catman wrote:

Nope.

I could always post them elsewhere - just to remind you.

You saved some non existent pm's from years back! Laughing

by Raggamuffin Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:24 pm

Catman wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I could always post them elsewhere - just to remind you.

You saved some non existent pm's from years back!

I still have my account on Jezzas and the PMs are still there.

by Guest Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:27 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Catman wrote:

You saved some non existent pm's from years back!

I still have my account on Jezzas and the PMs are still there.

If you say so Laughing

by Guest Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:

I never actually took a "hiding" or "beating" back on ADO, as such...

WHAT in fact happened back when, was that Smelly' and his little slime_chum Staphlos' (can't remember if Fuzzy was there or not either ~ but he is such a forgettable little maggot, isn't he !) thought that they could gang up on me and somehow bully me off that site..

AFTER I had turned the tables on them all and had them all "under the boot" in a manner of speaking, Sphinxy took umbrage at my defeating some of her favoured lapdogs ~ so she deleted and edited some of my posts on there, and subsequently declared their attacks as only "stating opinions" on their part, and my defence as "unprovoked attacks" against them !

SO if it ever looked to some observers like I was being given any sort of a really hard time, that was often more down to Sphinx's selective and creative editing, rather than any real and genuine "success" on the part of Smelly, Stavros, Fuzzy or L'ilAndy (though I imagine those 'heroes' would like to imagine still, that they somehow always 'bested' us lefties back on ADO !).

("Stephen" only wants to imagine it that way as well (refer back to pg. 1), as it better fits his own twisted agenda this week..).

Let me remind you of what happened, then. Originally, Mogi--whom y'all know as Lovedust--Bee, Oriental Lady (who is gone now) and I came over from Ministry, which had closed. On ADO, which y'all remember as a highly racist site, the RWers learned that Lovedust is a Black woman. At that point the RW'ers went batshit. Mogs,, Bee and I were swatting Conservatives like horse flies.

It got so bad that I received a PM from Bee that Mogs was going to pull out of ADO. He said she felt there was just too much racism on that site. She reduced her visits, and the RWers took out after Bee. Brits do have a nasty habit of looking down their noses at the Colonists; that's why I mentioned to Irn that they can't do that so easily with us Americans. Plus, Bee has a good left jab, lol. So, they all started going after Bee's Oz origin, calling him Donk, and other derogatory names. Stuff they still continue on here.

At this point I was communicating with Sassy anyway, about another, more friendly site: Speak Free (these were in the days when Sassy and I were friends). Mogs had seemingly faded away, and I only told Bee about Speak Free and my move. In sum, I thought we had lost Mogi, Bee was getting beat up, and there were other problems with ADO that I didn't like. So Bee and I jumped to Speak Free. Shortly thereafter, Mogs followed.

During those days on ADO, RWers were unmerciful, I thought, on Mogi and Bee--for the reasons I mentioned. In my opinion, to this day Bee sees red whenever he confronts those same persons. And that is happening right now, on here.

What I call the hate thread, is one started by andy where he didn't mention Bee by name, but he singled out a dozen of Bee's quotes and asked something like, 'Do you like this person?' Or, words to that effect. Some of you former Sky people jumped right on without knowing the history of his anger. I do know that history, and I don't fault him one bit.

No Quill

1) I don't recall anyone at ADO starting on me because I was black
2) That decision to leave was taken in the context of a disagreement with one poster (dragonfly) who doesn't even post here
3) It was a decision I reversed about a week later.

You've said numerous times that ADO convinced you that "racism in Britain is a wimp battle". Please don't use a disagreement I had two years ago with someone who doesn't post here to try and cause division between bee and me here and now.

You didn't answer any of my questions about your accusations, btw.

- How am I supposed to have "turned on" you "about ten months ago"?
- Where have I "sided" with drinky and smelly?
- You made the bizarre remark "We don't expect anything from you... except hate". Please justify this?

by Irn Bru Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:33 pm

lovedust wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:

I never actually took a "hiding" or "beating" back on ADO, as such...

WHAT in fact happened back when, was that Smelly' and his little slime_chum Staphlos' (can't remember if Fuzzy was there or not either ~ but he is such a forgettable little maggot, isn't he !) thought that they could gang up on me and somehow bully me off that site..

AFTER I had turned the tables on them all and had them all "under the boot" in a manner of speaking, Sphinxy took umbrage at my defeating some of her favoured lapdogs ~ so she deleted and edited some of my posts on there, and subsequently declared their attacks as only "stating opinions" on their part, and my defence as "unprovoked attacks" against them !

SO if it ever looked to some observers like I was being given any sort of a really hard time, that was often more down to Sphinx's selective and creative editing, rather than any real and genuine "success" on the part of Smelly, Stavros, Fuzzy or L'ilAndy (though I imagine those 'heroes' would like to imagine still, that they somehow always 'bested' us lefties back on ADO !).

("Stephen" only wants to imagine it that way as well (refer back to pg. 1), as it better fits his own twisted agenda this week..).

Let me remind you of what happened, then. Originally, Mogi--whom y'all know as Lovedust--Bee, Oriental Lady (who is gone now) and I came over from Ministry, which had closed. On ADO, which y'all remember as a highly racist site, the RWers learned that Lovedust is a Black woman. At that point the RW'ers went batshit. Mogs,, Bee and I were swatting Conservatives like horse flies.

It got so bad that I received a PM from Bee that Mogs was going to pull out of ADO. He said she felt there was just too much racism on that site. She reduced her visits, and the RWers took out after Bee. Brits do have a nasty habit of looking down their noses at the Colonists; that's why I mentioned to Irn that they can't do that so easily with us Americans. Plus, Bee has a good left jab, lol. So, they all started going after Bee's Oz origin, calling him Donk, and other derogatory names. Stuff they still continue on here.

At this point I was communicating with Sassy anyway, about another, more friendly site: Speak Free (these were in the days when Sassy and I were friends). Mogs had seemingly faded away, and I only told Bee about Speak Free and my move. In sum, I thought we had lost Mogi, Bee was getting beat up, and there were other problems with ADO that I didn't like. So Bee and I jumped to Speak Free. Shortly thereafter, Mogs followed.

During those days on ADO, RWers were unmerciful, I thought, on Mogi and Bee--for the reasons I mentioned. In my opinion, to this day Bee sees red whenever he confronts those same persons. And that is happening right now, on here.

What I call the hate thread, is one started by andy where he didn't mention Bee by name, but he singled out a dozen of Bee's quotes and asked something like, 'Do you like this person?' Or, words to that effect. Some of you former Sky people jumped right on without knowing the history of his anger. I do know that history, and I don't fault him one bit.

No Quill

1) I don't recall anyone at ADO starting on me because I was black
2) That decision to leave was taken in the context of a disagreement with one poster (dragonfly) who doesn't even post here
3) It was a decision I reversed about a week later.

You've said numerous times that ADO convinced you that "racism in Britain is a wimp battle". Please don't use a disagreement I had two years ago with someone who doesn't post here to try and cause division between bee and me here and now.

You didn't answer any of my questions about your accusations, btw.

- How am I supposed to have "turned on" you "about ten months ago"?
- Where have I "sided" with drinky and smelly?
- You made the bizarre remark "We don't expect anything from you... except hate". Please justify this?

I don't recall anyone getting on to you because you were Black either and I would think that most people weren't even aware that you were.

And you certainly never sided with drinky or smelly either. It's ridiculous.

by Guest Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:51 pm

As I said before, but it's worth repeating, how come if Quill fell out with Lovedust 10 months ago and she is not to be trusted, he was talking about phoning her a couple of months ago because Bee couldn't get hold of her and he was worried? Doesn't add up.

by Lone Wolf Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:19 am

Stephenmarra wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:............................................................

Sounds a bit like Beekeeper.

Two sides of the same coin ?

WHY does it take 3 or 4 of these spineless and gormless trolling maggots to get together before they can find the courage to attack any of us ???

AS in this case of those racist scum dickheads attacking me, Handy Andy, (and eventually even Didge', veya' and Catman, before they had finished !) on this here thread ?

(Namely that fraudulent doper "Stephen'", his new racist chums Baggs and L'ilAndy, and the idiot oddbod "Gerber" who had Stephen's head well and truly stuck up his backside even before the end of pg. 1 !).

ANSWER: it takes at least three of those trolling troublemakers to match wits and intelligence with any one of the typical lefties/moderates/non-committals on here.. cyclops

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:18 pm

FFS Bee, will you stop lying through your back teeth, because instead of proving what you say it does the opposite and everyone know you are talking crap.

Gerber is a lady, she might have differing political opinions to you but she is never nasty, Stephen has absolutely never sided with BA and you are, as normal these days, talking crap. You used to be a decent poster who I liked. All you can do these days is get your facts about people wrong and post things said in as nasty a way as you can manage.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:33 pm

Sassy wrote:FFS Bee, will you stop lying through your back teeth, because instead of proving what you say it does the opposite and everyone know you are talking crap.

Gerber is a lady, she might have differing political opinions to you but she is very nasty, Stephen has absolutely never sided with BA and you are, as normal these days, talking crap. You used to be a decent poster who I liked. All you can do these days is get your facts about people wrong and post things said in as nasty a way as you can manage.

Spot on Sassy (my new racist bum-chum, and latest member of the flip flop "gang").

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:37 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
Sassy wrote:FFS Bee, will you stop lying through your back teeth, because instead of proving what you say it does the opposite and everyone know you are talking crap.

Gerber is a lady, she might have differing political opinions to you but she is very nasty, Stephen has absolutely never sided with BA and you are, as normal these days, talking crap. You used to be a decent poster who I liked. All you can do these days is get your facts about people wrong and post things said in as nasty a way as you can manage.

Spot on Sassy (my new racist bum-chum, and latest member of the flip flop "gang").

Great, thanks Andy, Bee will probably take that literally! Ta!

BTW, in my quote above within your post, could you change 'very nasty' to 'never nasty', my fingers got mixed up, I didn't spot it until after you had posted, and I would hate to upset Gerbs, who is 'never nasty' lol

by Lone Wolf Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:39 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
Really? I was thinking of you, Stephen! Absolute absence of content, that.

At least Beekeeper has a college degree and can carry on a meaningful conversation, be it economics, science, politics, the environment or any number of subjects.

I've never seen him do that.

YOU'RE a lying piece of crap, Baggs'...

by Andy Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:40 pm

I am getting horribly confused. Apart from a couple of flop trolls, who on here have I ever attacked, been abusive, racist or homophobic to?
Answer : no- one.
There are a few decent floppettes, but as I highlighted in the original post on this thread, some are beyond disgusting.
They are lower than the first living cells that first crawled out of the primeval gloop.

by Lone Wolf Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:40 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I've never seen him do that.

Hahaha me neither Ragga

Eddie is a lying piece of racist shite...

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:41 pm

Actually, I have seen you carry on a meaningful conversation, but very occasionally these days, which is a shame.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:42 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
eddie wrote:

Hahaha me neither Ragga

Eddie is a lying piece of racist shite...

Shut up Bee, you are just making yourself look a fool. Eddie doesn't have a racist or homophobic bone in her body.

by Lone Wolf Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:43 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Perhaps for lack of looking.

Methinks that andy's hate thread has consumed all of you. I have known Bee for over six years, and he has contributed to many an excellent dialogue/conversation, particularly on scientific matters.

Perhaps if you two tried getting along, you might be surprised how pleasant you could make this whole board.

Wow. What an assumption quill!
When I first started posting here Bee Actually just kept calling me stupid and other variants.
Do you think I randomly just disliked him?

YOU attacked me at random your first week on here, eddie...

You lying piece of scum..

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:44 pm

No she didn't. The sun is getting to your head too much Bee, go and put a hat on and return to the nice person I used to know.

PS Look at Eddie's join date, she has been on here for a very long time.

by Lone Wolf Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:01 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:...........................

Oh cripes, so they all flounce around college shouting fuckwit, dumbfuck and idiot now do they?

HEY there L'il Andy !!!

YOU gormless and worthless piece of hypocritical detritus..

WHY IS IT that you only ever protest your high standards and delicate personage being offended on here, when such offence comes from your more noisome 'left wing 'liberal'/commie/socialist' opponents ?

WHY is it that we never saw you protesting about any of the filthy garbage that has regularly spewed forth from Allahkakakakakakka-ack!, Drinky/Clarkson/Bloggs, Puerile, Tess, smelly', eddie, Fuzzy', Baggs', Stephenmarra..

OH, that's right ! L'ilAndy never protests against his honourable, kind-hearted and gentle kindred spirits, does he..

But ONLY ever against we wicked "left wingers"... pirat

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:05 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:...........................

Oh cripes, so they all flounce around college shouting fuckwit, dumbfuck and idiot now do they?

HEY there L'il Andy !!!

YOU gormless and worthless piece of hypocritical detritus..

WHY IS IT that you only ever protest your high standards and delicate personage being offended on here, when such offence comes from your more noisome 'left wing 'liberal'/commie/socialist' opponents ?

WHY is it that we never saw you protesting about any of the filthy garbage that has regularly spewed forth from Allahkakakakakakka-ack!, Drinky/Clarkson/Bloggs, Puerile, Tess, smelly', eddie, Fuzzy', Baggs', Stephenmarra..

OH, that's right ! L'ilAndy never protests against his honourable, kind-hearted and gentle kindred spirits, does he..

But ONLY ever against we wicked "left wingers"...

Because we're all part of the Nazi Party Of England, obviously.

Now, go and look for a family down in the woods.

by Stephenmarra Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:35 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:

HEY there L'il Andy !!!

YOU gormless and worthless piece of hypocritical detritus..

WHY IS IT that you only ever protest your high standards and delicate personage being offended on here, when such offence comes from your more noisome 'left wing 'liberal'/commie/socialist' opponents ?

WHY is it that we never saw you protesting about any of the filthy garbage that has regularly spewed forth from Allahkakakakakakka-ack!, Drinky/Clarkson/Bloggs, Puerile, Tess, smelly', eddie, Fuzzy', Baggs', Stephenmarra..

OH, that's right ! L'ilAndy never protests against his honourable, kind-hearted and gentle kindred spirits, does he..

But ONLY ever against we wicked "left wingers"...

Because we're all part of the Nazi Party Of England, obviously.

Errrr !, I think my invitation must have got lost in the post. Sad

Also, I will only attend the meet up if the lovely Gerber is in attendance in her Cat suit & whip. Embarassed

It's the first time that I've been called Right wing and Racist, I suppose showing the posts where I've been either is too much to ask ? Rolling Eyes

Thought so.
Also, FTL, Nems and Cass was joking around with Shady, does that make them guilty by association ? or just them having a laugh and a giggle as it should be on any forum ?

by Lone Wolf Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:15 pm

Stephenmarra wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:

WHOEVER tells you that I had "a hard time on ADO" is lying through their slimy trolling teeth...

Show us all one little example to back up your 'IAF' lies..

Ahh ! now Bee, we are all now awaiting with baited breath your reply to Quill. At the risk of sounding like Didge "In your own time"

STRANGE thing about this abuse towards not only me, but an odd and irrelevant reference to Didge, from that two-faced fraud "Stephen" on Tuesday, as that I hadn't been online for some hours at the time !

A FINER point, that no doubt the racist little maggot was well aware of ~ being the scheming little mongrel that he is..

AND as his earlier attaks on Quill, Handy Andy and Catman had already shown, the only apparent reason "Stephen" had only ever slithered back on here intent on picking fights and looking for threads to stir up, and hopefully derail those threads ~ as he hasn't offered anything creative or original since joining here...

THEN, true to form, later we see the spineless and gutless coward "Stephen'" first inferring that he has somehow bested me ~ a sick fantasy of his that has only ever existed in his empty little brain-space ~ and then he further infers that I always run away from him (? remembering again, that I wasn't even online at the time, what with international time differences, and all that.. ). !

AND THEN he promptly disappeared for a couple of days, no doubt looking for further inspirations and suggestions, after failing miserably in yet another of his weak and juvenile attempts at disrupting forums wherever and whenever he joins up.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:42 pm

Are you out to prove just how stupid you are Bee? I note that you waited until Stephen went off line to write the above, you have been logged on for a long time. I've logged in and out and you have been here all morning. And 'in your own time' is an expression Didge uses all the time. STEPHEN HAS NEVER ATTACKED HANDY ANDY OR CAT and you are looking pathetic. Pull yourself together man, what is the matter with you.

You avoided every point Stephen made, didn't provide any of the proof asked for and just came out with more twaddle. The only person not adding to the forum and disrupting them is you, over and over and over again. I'd have thought you would have had enough egg on your face by now to feed yourself for a long time.

Give it a rest FFS!!!

by Andy Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:54 pm

Neither Stephen nor bigAndy have abused or as far as I remember even insulted me.
Disagree politically, which is no problem.
That is what forums are all about.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:28 pm

Sassy wrote:Are you out to prove just how stupid you are Bee? I note that you waited until Stephen went off line to write the above, you have been logged on for a long time. I've logged in and out and you have been here all morning. And 'in your own time' is an expression Didge uses all the time. STEPHEN HAS NEVER ATTACKED HANDY ANDY OR CAT and you are looking pathetic. Pull yourself together man, what is the matter with you.

You avoided every point Stephen made, didn't provide any of the proof asked for and just came out with more twaddle. The only person not adding to the forum and disrupting them is you, over and over and over again. I'd have thought you would have had enough egg on your face by now to feed yourself for a long time.

Give it a rest FFS!!!

Stephen did make the ridiculous claim that Bee and i drove Tess the dog off this site. lol!

by gerber Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:34 pm

Stephenmarra wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:

Because we're all part of the Nazi Party Of England, obviously.

Errrr !, I think my invitation must have got lost in the post.
Also, I will only attend the meet up if the lovely Gerber is in attendance in her Cat suit & whip.

It's the first time that I've been called Right wing and Racist, I suppose showing the posts where I've been either is too much to ask ?
Thought so.
Also, FTL, Nems   and Cass was joking around with Shady, does that make them guilty by association ? or just them having a laugh and a giggle as it should be on any forum ?

Spill the beanz............ Whose party have I not been invited to, you miserable lot, will be gate crashing lift anyone ?

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:25 pm

Catman wrote:
Sassy wrote:Are you out to prove just how stupid you are Bee? I note that you waited until Stephen went off line to write the above, you have been logged on for a long time. I've logged in and out and you have been here all morning. And 'in your own time' is an expression Didge uses all the time. STEPHEN HAS NEVER ATTACKED HANDY ANDY OR CAT and you are looking pathetic. Pull yourself together man, what is the matter with you.

You avoided every point Stephen made, didn't provide any of the proof asked for and just came out with more twaddle. The only person not adding to the forum and disrupting them is you, over and over and over again. I'd have thought you would have had enough egg on your face by now to feed yourself for a long time.

Give it a rest FFS!!!

Stephen did make the ridiculous claim that Bee and i drove Tess the dog off this site.

Well you did. I realise she was making comments about you on Flap, but Stephen isn't on it and as far as I know doesn't bother to read it. But she wasn't making any comments about Bee there was she? And he brought her up so many times when she hadn't even been on the thread, calling her really nasty names, until she was sick of it. So Stephen was right from what he could see.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:28 pm

Sassy wrote:
Catman wrote:

Stephen did make the ridiculous claim that Bee and i drove Tess the dog off this site.

Well you did. I realise she was making comments about you on Flap, but Stephen isn't on it and as far as I know doesn't bother to read it. But she wasn't making any comments about Bee there was she? And he brought her up so many times when she hadn't even been on the thread, calling her really nasty names, until she was sick of it. So Stephen was right from what he could see.

She was making comments about me on here as well, good riddance to her as far as i'm concerned.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:55 pm

Original Quill wrote:
lovedust wrote:

That doesn't chime with my memory, but in any case, I don't think Eddie would have had anything to do with it .

You lost your union card about 10-months ago when you turned on us, mogi. We don't expect anything from you...except hate.

Speaking of hate...I recall eds had some pretty ugly things to say about Bee on andy's hate thread. But I wouldn't expect you to acknowledge that, mogs. We know you're long gone.

But that's what I was referring to. How can anyone who calls themselves liberal in any way, side with the likes of andy, shady, drinky and smelly??? That's where your eds, stephen and the rest are. You sleep with RWers, you're never to be trusted.

Oh that's nice, Quill. You launch a horrid attack on me out of the blue, you accuse me of "turning on you about ten months ago" even though you're unable to say how, you somehow manage to link bee into the 10 month ago event you seem unable to remember, to try and drag the two of us into needless conflict, you tell anyone who'll listen that I'm "never to be trusted" because I "sleep" with people I in fact barely know, and then you feel entitled to saunter off into the sunset rather than account for, what are frankly, fibs.

More of your "peace-making", no doubt.

by Original Quill Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:15 pm

lovedust wrote:
No Quill

1) I don't recall anyone at ADO starting on me because I was black

I do. You brought it up to the ADO group in a conversation with Smelly.

"Ques [facetiously]: You talk about this as if you are Black. Are you?

Ans: Yes, as a matter of fact, I am. Is that relevant?"

lovedust wrote:2) That decision to leave was taken in the context of a disagreement with one poster (dragonfly) who doesn't even post here

You communicated your decision to Bee, who told me. But I think you are parsing things to fit your viewpoint. What Bee told me was that you were leaving because there was too much racism on ADO.

lovedust wrote:3) It was a decision I reversed about a week later.

How would I know? I was gone to Speak Free. The next time I saw you was over there.

lovedust wrote:You've said numerous times that ADO convinced you that "racism in Britain is a wimp battle".

Well, of course, mog. There is no contradiction there. It's my observation that the Brits are wannabe racists. Where is Trayvon Martin...where is Jordan Davis, in Britain? What is there, tho, is your own white countrymen were attacking you. That change is significant to anyone who derives esteem from their nationality.

lovedust wrote:Please don't use a disagreement I had two years ago with someone who doesn't post here to try and cause division between bee and me here and now.

It was Bee's and my fight, too. I have raised it in speaking about Bee, specifically. Don't try to co-opt my point, which isn't about you. Contradict me, but don't twist it...I was there too. I'm talking about how Bee's hostilities to RWers--those who have reappeared here on this site once more--came about. And I'm talking about my perception...even Bee might not recall the same as me. As an historian on this small moment of a point, this is the way I see it. It is my conclusion that Bee is well justified in his opinion.

As for all the posters from the Sassy gang, I'll answer generally:

You sure have lost your memory of the times, haven't you? Particularly you Irn...you and TTS were particularly outspoken and animated in that thread, where you castigated the RWers for their insensitivities. To your credit, in my opinion. And Didge...he was there, and he disclaimed any association with, as I recall, dragonfly and Smelly. Again, to his credit.

Now, you casually disregard all of that. You say it never happened. You sound like Republicans...haha, WMD's, no I don't remember mentioning it...

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:32 pm

As far as I remember there was a lot of hounding from all sides on ADO, I certainly did not see eye to eye with Quill or Bee, but we all put aside those differences, which in my case stemmed from me backing the view I did not think shady was racist over a comment he made about drums, a poor stereotype to Africans, but not racist which escalated from there to which everyone was involved. As much as I think shady is a wally he is not racist and in reality is a wind up merchant and has actually done plenty for his country.

The fact is that was all back then and I do get Quills point on when a poster can have enough of something they see red with Bee, but as I have done myself when you become so sick and tired of reading hateful crap about people, though any abuse I say or do or anyone else does is wrong and there is never a justification for any of it and all it does it ruins a debate. Hey I mean look at me and Victor we will go mental at each other but none is ever meant because what it boils down to is goading the other into making mistakes, which is what it really boils down to. The reality is I have nothing against anyone no matte their views, like I said even smelly being the most idiotic racist there is , if he is out in combat I would never wish any ill will onto him or anyone else as we are just people on a forum, who can all get worked up at times. Though sometimes the abuse has to stop, so I can see some points you make Quill and agree but and again I also disagree that there is nothing productive when you see nothing but plenty of abuse being thrown from anyone. The fact is everyone has formed their own stereotype views of people here, including you Quill, with how you see those who are RW, when as seen many of us differ on many issues.

This thread has just become very pointless and as seen Quill, you, myself and Bee moved past former antics against each other, so how about the same happen here with everyone, which means everyone placing a full stop here and moving on, because it really is not worth it, even more so when many of you used to get along

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:41 pm

Well, sorry to say Didge, but your post was pure comedy. If you really think Quill has moved anywhere after the posts he has made to Stephen and Lovedust you need an eye test. And Bee is just ranting indiscriminately.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:47 pm

Sassy wrote:Well, sorry to say Didge, but your post was pure comedy. If you really think Quill has moved anywhere after the posts he has made to Stephen and Lovedust you need an eye test.

I never claimed he had, but clearly you do not want to move on sassy, what I said was much has been said in the past and even now and none of it is worth it, feuds are really sad and pathetic and those that keep such feuds alive seem to thrive on them, which again I find pathetic

No matter what people say I am just saying it is better to move on, you can if you so wish remain at odds with people and yes I fall out at times, so do many, but it is never worth it, so like I said why not place a full stop and move on.

Do you want to be led by hate?

Again it is not worth it, no matter who you think is wrong and bang out of order, being bent up about it is never good for anyone, it takes a better person to move on and move past such hate.

by Stephenmarra Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:51 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
Stephenmarra wrote:

Ahh ! now Bee, we are all now awaiting with baited breath your reply to Quill. At the risk of sounding like Didge "In your own time"

STRANGE thing about this abuse towards not only me, but an odd and irrelevant reference to Didge, from that two-faced fraud "Stephen" on Tuesday, as that I hadn't been online for some hours at the time !

A FINER point, that no doubt the racist little maggot was well aware of ~ being the scheming little mongrel that he is..

AND as his earlier attaks on Quill, Handy Andy and Catman had already shown, the only apparent reason "Stephen" had only ever slithered back on here intent on picking fights and looking for threads to stir up, and hopefully derail those threads ~ as he hasn't offered anything creative or original since joining here...

THEN, true to form, later we see the spineless and gutless coward "Stephen'" first inferring that he has somehow bested me ~ a sick fantasy of his that has only ever existed in his empty little brain-space ~ and then he further infers that I always run away from him (? remembering again, that I wasn't even online at the time, what with international time differences, and all that.. ). !

AND THEN he promptly disappeared for a couple of days, no doubt looking for further inspirations and suggestions, after failing miserably in yet another of his weak and juvenile attempts at disrupting forums wherever and whenever he joins up.

Didge, I'm supposed to let this go unanswered . Rolling Eyes

Bee, do you ever answer any questions or just go from one diatribe too another ?
Lone Wolf ! hmmm ! I don't know, more like "one sad lonely sick little puppy" going by your posts lately.
I lost any respect when you brought M' Lord's recently deceased wife to the board and not apologise when pointed out by several posters. As I say sad puppy !

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:53 pm

lovedust wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You lost your union card about 10-months ago when you turned on us, mogi. We don't expect anything from you...except hate.

Speaking of hate...I recall eds had some pretty ugly things to say about Bee on andy's hate thread. But I wouldn't expect you to acknowledge that, mogs. We know you're long gone.

But that's what I was referring to. How can anyone who calls themselves liberal in any way, side with the likes of andy, shady, drinky and smelly??? That's where your eds, stephen and the rest are. You sleep with RWers, you're never to be trusted.

OK Quill,

Following that bizarrely unpleasant attack, I think you'd best explain:

-How I'm supposed to have "turned on you" ten months ago
- Where I've ever been hateful to anyone
- Where I've supposedly "sided" with andy, shady, drinky and smelly.

Please also either substantiate your claim "You're never to be trusted" or apologise for it.

I'm still waiting for you to answer these questions Quill

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:57 pm

Yes all abuse is wrong, whether people want to let go or not is up to them Stephen, again none of it is right and none will ever get satisfaction, I would rather see people place a full stop and start again, because to really reconcile is to admit we all do wrong and then move forward

I have said my peace, it is up to everyone to carry on or move on

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:07 pm

Thank gawd for that.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:08 pm

Stephenmarra wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:

Because we're all part of the Nazi Party Of England, obviously.

Errrr !, I think my invitation must have got lost in the post.
Also, I will only attend the meet up if the lovely Gerber is in attendance in her Cat suit & whip.

It's the first time that I've been called Right wing and Racist, I suppose showing the posts where I've been either is too much to ask ?
Thought so.
Also, FTL, Nems   and Cass was joking around with Shady, does that make them guilty by association ? or just them having a laugh and a giggle as it should be on any forum ?

Blimey Im getting it from all sides she who must be obeyed has had a coniption fit because I answered a post of smelly bandits!

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:10 pm

lovedust wrote:
lovedust wrote:

OK Quill,

Following that bizarrely unpleasant attack, I think you'd best explain:

-How I'm supposed to have "turned on you" ten months ago
- Where I've ever been hateful to anyone
- Where I've supposedly "sided" with andy, shady, drinky and smelly.

Please also either substantiate your claim "You're never to be trusted" or apologise for it.

I'm still waiting for you to answer these questions Quill

Still logged on but not gracious enough to reply to you Lovey.

by Stephenmarra Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:12 pm

Didge wrote:Yes all abuse is wrong, whether people want to let go or not is up to them Stephen, again none of it is right and none will ever get satisfaction, I would rather see people place a full stop and start again, because to really reconcile is to admit we all do wrong and then move forward

I have said my peace, it is up to everyone to carry on or move on

Didge, I really don't mind the shit thrown at me but Tess has been run off the forum, ed's is not posting much nowadays, ragg's has been given a hard time on here, Gerbers name has cropped up ! what the hell ! and fuck all said to Bee.

If Bee stops throwing shit around, you won't get another post in anger out of me.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:14 pm

To keep anything alive it needs fuel, without that fuel, then anything withers away and dies, so to keep a feud going it needs more to respond, and the more that respond the more the fight continues and who wins?

Nobody

by Stephenmarra Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:19 pm

NemsAgain wrote:
Stephenmarra wrote:

Errrr !, I think my invitation must have got lost in the post.
Also, I will only attend the meet up if the lovely Gerber is in attendance in her Cat suit & whip.

It's the first time that I've been called Right wing and Racist, I suppose showing the posts where I've been either is too much to ask ?
Thought so.
Also, FTL, Nems   and Cass was joking around with Shady, does that make them guilty by association ? or just them having a laugh and a giggle as it should be on any forum ?

Blimey Im getting it from all sides she who must be obeyed has had a coniption fit because I answered a post of smelly bandits!

Nems, If my post comes across as a go at you I'm sorry, not meant.
All I meant was we should all have a laugh with whoever, regardless of all this right -wing / left wing shit.
I've got to say I'm getting pissed off with it. Rolling Eyes

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:19 pm

Stephenmarra wrote:
Didge wrote:Yes all abuse is wrong, whether people want to let go or not is up to them Stephen, again none of it is right and none will ever get satisfaction, I would rather see people place a full stop and start again, because to really reconcile is to admit we all do wrong and then move forward

I have said my peace, it is up to everyone to carry on or move on

Didge, I really don't mind the shit thrown at me but Tess has been run off the forum, ed's is not posting much nowadays, ragg's has been given a hard time on here, Gerbers name has cropped up ! what the hell ! and fuck all said to Bee.

If Bee stops throwing shit around, you won't get another post in anger out of me.

I hope Tess comes back, but nobody run her off, she decided to leave, everyone has the choice to ignore what is thrown at them or get involved in what has been thrown at them, which is never easy to not get involved of which I agree, but this will never be resolved unless people move on, because it will just go on and on and on and on.

I hope Tess comes back, she should not feel she has to leave, but like I did, I came back, because we all get annoyed, but again nobody is going to win here, people will have on both sides those who disagree and keep this going, and you will find it rare that people back down, which you see countless times happen, what we forget though is that this is not our place, but Ben's and we are guests and it is a good thing he has loads of patients with all of us.

I have seen some posters never rise to any crap thrown their way and you know what the abuse quickly stops, because they do not rise to it.

by Stephenmarra Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:22 pm

Didge wrote:
Stephenmarra wrote:

Didge, I really don't mind the shit thrown at me but Tess has been run off the forum, ed's is not posting much nowadays, ragg's has been given a hard time on here, Gerbers name has cropped up ! what the hell ! and fuck all said to Bee.

If Bee stops throwing shit around, you won't get another post in anger out of me.

I hope Tess comes back, but nobody run her off, she decided to leave, everyone has the choice to ignore what is thrown at them or get involved in what has been thrown at them, which is never easy to not get involved of which I agree, but this will never be resolved unless people move on, because it will just go on and on and on and on.

I hope Tess comes back, she should not feel she has to leave, but like I did, I came back, because we all get annoyed, but again nobody is going to win here, people will have on both sides those who disagree and keep this going, and you will find it rare that people back down, which you see countless times happen, what we forget though is that this is not our place, but Ben's and we are guests and it is a good thing he has loads of patients with all of us.

I have seen some posters never rise to any crap thrown their way and you know what the abuse quickly stops, because they do not rise to it.

Did you not read the last bit of my post. Rolling Eyes

fuck sake

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:25 pm

Stephenmarra wrote:
Didge wrote:

I hope Tess comes back, but nobody run her off, she decided to leave, everyone has the choice to ignore what is thrown at them or get involved in what has been thrown at them, which is never easy to not get involved of which I agree, but this will never be resolved unless people move on, because it will just go on and on and on and on.

I hope Tess comes back, she should not feel she has to leave, but like I did, I came back, because we all get annoyed, but again nobody is going to win here, people will have on both sides those who disagree and keep this going, and you will find it rare that people back down, which you see countless times happen, what we forget though is that this is not our place, but Ben's and we are guests and it is a good thing he has loads of patients with all of us.

I have seen some posters never rise to any crap thrown their way and you know what the abuse quickly stops, because they do not rise to it.
Did you not read the last bit of my post. fuck sake

Yes I did Stephen and I am making my point further on this, expressing my view, anyway fair play to you

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:25 pm

Didge wrote:To keep anything alive it needs fuel, without that fuel, then anything withers away and dies, so to keep a feud going it needs more to respond, and the more that respond the more the fight continues and who wins?

Nobody

Absolutely Didge Typical far rw reply in a debate. - Page 4 Agree17

x

Take a

Typical far rw reply in a debate. - Page 4 Chill_16

people. Is there something in the water tonight??? All this bitching is far from fun.

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:26 pm

Stephenmarra wrote:
NemsAgain wrote:

Blimey Im getting it from all sides she who must be obeyed has had a coniption fit because I answered a post of smelly bandits!

Nems, If my post comes across as a go at you I'm sorry, not meant.
All I meant was we should all have a laugh with whoever, regardless of all this right -wing / left wing shit.
I've got to say I'm getting pissed off with it.

Hear, hear Typical far rw reply in a debate. - Page 4 Clap_215

x

by Guest Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:32 pm

feelthelove wrote:
Didge wrote:To keep anything alive it needs fuel, without that fuel, then anything withers away and dies, so to keep a feud going it needs more to respond, and the more that respond the more the fight continues and who wins?

Nobody

Absolutely Didge x

Take a people. Is there something in the water tonight??? All this bitching is far from fun.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

by Stephenmarra Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:35 pm

feelthelove wrote:
Stephenmarra wrote:

Nems, If my post comes across as a go at you I'm sorry, not meant.
All I meant was we should all have a laugh with whoever, regardless of all this right -wing / left wing shit.
I've got to say I'm getting pissed off with it.

Hear, hear x

I'm spending so much time on this shit that I haven't time to get down to the Music board. Sad

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