“Bi-sexual” - is it just a fashion statement nowadays?

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I ask this because at my place of employment, we hire a lot of college students who want to make extra money whilst at the same college. They’re all about seventeen years old. It’s only the girls who claim to be bisexual. There are seven of them and only one is a lesbian, the others claim to be bisexual. What are the odds that every one of them, all college friends, are actually, truly, bisexual?

I got to wondering why all of them are bisexual. Is it a fashion statement? Is it trendy to be bisexual now, somehow exotic?

I did a little google “Why do so many young people say they’re bisexual?”

Here’s what I found:

According to recent figures from the Office for National Statistics, the number of British people defining themselves as bisexual has risen 45 per cent in just three years.

This alleged increase is most notable in the young — for the first time, more 16 to 24-year-olds describe themselves as bisexual than those who say they are gay or lesbian combined. A survey by YouGov last year found that half of young people declared themselves as something other than 100 per cent heterosexual.

source - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3891842/Why-young-people-say-bisexual-Honest-Confused-Influenced-celebrities-talk-three-youngsters-somewhat-bemused-parents.html

I’m aware that it’s now far more tolerable and perhaps that’s the reason for young people to feel more able to express themselves...but...figures up by 45%?


What are your thoughts?

Syl wrote:

Maddog wrote:

If you enjoy something, it has value to you.  

Yes, but I would never think I have to earn it in any way.

You're looking at this as quid pro quo.

Enjoyment doesn't just happen. It's the result of effort.

Exerting effort is the same as earning.

Working on your relationship is like earning it.

It's why economics is considered a social science.

Spoken with all the wisdom and reminiscence of an old, old man.....what’s sex? Where do I find it? Can I get some? Oh, bugger..................

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Spoken with all the wisdom and reminiscence of an old, old man.....what’s sex? Where do I find it?  Can I get some? Oh, bugger..................

lolol my dad before

''I do remember in my young days chasing after women but I can't remember why? If I caught hold of one nowadays I would just get confused about what I'm supposed to do with it''



It was the ''it'' part that cracked me up

Spoken with all the wisdom and reminiscence of an old, old man.....what’s sex? Where do I find it? Can I get some? Oh, bugger..................

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Spoken with all the wisdom and reminiscence of an old, old man.....what’s sex? Where do I find it?  Can I get some? Oh, bugger..................

Blimey! Where did the repeat come from?

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Spoken with all the wisdom and reminiscence of an old, old man.....what’s sex? Where do I find it?  Can I get some? Oh, bugger..................

Blimey! Where did the repeat come from?

Maddog wrote:

Syl wrote:

Yes, but I would never think I have to earn it in any way.

You're looking at this as quid pro quo.

Enjoyment doesn't just happen. It's the result of effort.

Exerting effort is the same as earning.  

Working on your relationship is like earning it.  

It's why economics is considered a social science.  

Maybe we are just using different words to describe the same thing.

Any relationship where you feel like you're always exerting yourself isn't worth it. The things the other person "gets" from you should be the natural way you are, not something you have to make an effort to do.

Likewise, if you're expecting your partner to start doing things for you that don't come naturally to him/her, you're not being realistic -- and you might be with the wrong person.

Ben Reilly wrote:Any relationship where you feel like you're always exerting yourself isn't worth it. The things the other person "gets" from you should be the natural way you are, not something you have to make an effort to do.

Likewise, if you're expecting your partner to start doing things for you that don't come naturally to him/her, you're not being realistic -- and you might be with the wrong person.

Really?

I would say most people say relationships require some effort and sacrifice to make them work.

Maddog wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:Any relationship where you feel like you're always exerting yourself isn't worth it. The things the other person "gets" from you should be the natural way you are, not something you have to make an effort to do.

Likewise, if you're expecting your partner to start doing things for you that don't come naturally to him/her, you're not being realistic -- and you might be with the wrong person.

Really?

I would say most people say relationships require some effort and sacrifice to make them work.

The key word being "some." As I said, if you're constantly exerting and sacrificing, it's not right.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Really?

I would say most people say relationships require some effort and sacrifice to make them work.

The key word being "some." As I said, if you're constantly exerting and sacrificing, it's not right.

Take your marriage. You had to move 5000 miles away to a foreign country. That's a great deal of effort. However, you deem the rewards of that effort to be greater than the cost.

Exertion and sacrifice isn't without reward.

I think we are all saying the same thing but in different ways.

We all agree that relationships, sexual or otherwise, require give and take but if a relationship is too much hard work...you have to consider whether it’s worth it.

eddie wrote:I think we are all saying the same thing but in different ways.

We all agree that relationships, sexual or otherwise, require give and take but if a relationship is too much hard work...you have to consider whether it’s worth it.

Exactly. Or at least the difference between effort and reward is too great.

Maddog wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Really?

I would say most people say relationships require some effort and sacrifice to make them work.

The key word being "some." As I said, if you're constantly exerting and sacrificing, it's not right.

Take your marriage. You had to move 5000 miles away to a foreign country.  That's a great deal of effort. However, you deem the rewards of that effort to be greater than the cost.

Exertion and sacrifice isn't without reward.

It felt effortless to me, and that's my point. The concepts of effort and reward never entered into it. I simply did what my heart told me I had to do to be happy.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Take your marriage. You had to move 5000 miles away to a foreign country.  That's a great deal of effort. However, you deem the rewards of that effort to be greater than the cost.

Exertion and sacrifice isn't without reward.

It felt effortless to me, and that's my point. The concepts of effort and reward never entered into it. I simply did what my heart told me I had to do to be happy.

Remember all of the hassle with getting approved to stay?

You could have said fuck it and came back to Texas. Instead you felt the reward was worth jumping through all of those silly hoops.

Maddog wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Take your marriage. You had to move 5000 miles away to a foreign country.  That's a great deal of effort. However, you deem the rewards of that effort to be greater than the cost.

Exertion and sacrifice isn't without reward.

It felt effortless to me, and that's my point. The concepts of effort and reward never entered into it. I simply did what my heart told me I had to do to be happy.

Remember all of the hassle with getting approved to stay?

You could have said fuck it and came back to Texas. Instead you felt the reward was worth jumping through all of those silly hoops.  

I guess what I'm trying to say -- maybe I'm not explaining it very well -- is that I had days as a journalist where I could give someone a breakdown of what I did all day and they might very well say that I really worked my ass off. But to me, it didn't feel like effort, it was exhilarating and I loved every second of it.

Moving to England and the stuff I had to do to pull that off was stressful at times, but I never felt like I'd rather not do it.

effort
noun
UK /ˈef.ət/ US /ˈef.ɚt/

B1 [ C or U ]
physical or mental activity needed to achieve something:


I think society has turned the word “effort” into a negative word, perhaps?

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Remember all of the hassle with getting approved to stay?

You could have said fuck it and came back to Texas. Instead you felt the reward was worth jumping through all of those silly hoops.  

I guess what I'm trying to say -- maybe I'm not explaining it very well -- is that I had days as a journalist where I could give someone a breakdown of what I did all day and they might very well say that I really worked my ass off. But to me, it didn't feel like effort, it was exhilarating and I loved every second of it.

Moving to England and the stuff I had to do to pull that off was stressful at times, but I never felt like I'd rather not do it.

Your efforts were rewarded. That doesn't mean that there wasn't great effort.

Two people exerting the same amount of effort will feel much different levels of satisfaction.

That's sorta how we measure value. There are two parts to the equation. Sometimes the second part is so powerful that we don't notice the first, but it exists.

In a nutshell, there are efforts that you'd rather not make, and efforts that you want to make, so much so that they no longer feel like effort at all.

Ben Reilly wrote:In a nutshell, there are efforts that you'd rather not make, and efforts that you want to make, so much so that they no longer feel like effort at all.

I think that’s a fair enough observation.

Ben Reilly wrote:In a nutshell, there are efforts that you'd rather not make, and efforts that you want to make, so much so that they no longer feel like effort at all.

Yup. You sorta just described relationships and economics, which are intertwined.