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Post by eddie Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:17 pm

I ask this because at my place of employment, we hire a lot of college students who want to make extra money whilst at the same college. They’re all about seventeen years old. It’s only the girls who claim to be bisexual. There are seven of them and only one is a lesbian, the others claim to be bisexual. What are the odds that every one of them, all college friends, are actually, truly, bisexual?

I got to wondering why all of them are bisexual. Is it a fashion statement? Is it trendy to be bisexual now, somehow exotic?

I did a little google “Why do so many young people say they’re bisexual?”

Here’s what I found:

According to recent figures from the Office for National Statistics, the number of British people defining themselves as bisexual has risen 45 per cent in just three years.

This alleged increase is most notable in the young — for the first time, more 16 to 24-year-olds describe themselves as bisexual than those who say they are gay or lesbian combined. A survey by YouGov last year found that half of young people declared themselves as something other than 100 per cent heterosexual.
source - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3891842/Why-young-people-say-bisexual-Honest-Confused-Influenced-celebrities-talk-three-youngsters-somewhat-bemused-parents.html

I’m aware that it’s now far more tolerable and perhaps that’s the reason for young people to feel more able to express themselves...but...figures up by 45%?


What are your thoughts?

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Post by Ben Reilly Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:21 pm

I think if it's a mainly-girls trend, that says a lot more about what girls of that age think guys like than it does about anything else.

I guess the first question to answer would be, "Are they lying?" But I can see one big reason they'd lie, and that's because they think guys would find that sexy.

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Post by eddie Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:23 pm

I think you’re right. I also think it’s on trend.

It actually makes a mockery of everything gay pride stands for tbh.

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Post by Syl Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:41 pm

I wonder what % have actually been in a sexual relationship with both men and women?
Maybe some just like the idea of it so claim they are.


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Post by eddie Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:03 pm

Syl wrote:I wonder what % have actually been in a sexual relationship with both men and women?
Maybe some just like the idea of it so claim they are.


That’s what I think. It just seems to be fashionable. I know the girls at work haven’t been with other girls because I asked them outright.
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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:06 pm

I think the source article might say this, or maybe I saw it somewhere else, but there's an idea that young women find other women more emotionally open, and they might be confusing that emotional satisfaction with romantic love.

The 18-year-old in the source article says she feels sexual feelings for men, but "romantic" feelings for women. I think that could be an example of this confusion of feelings.

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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:10 pm

I think a lot of "bisexual" women will have a romp with another female, but not a real relationship. Women have always appreciated other women more then men, other men.

It seems like the handful of bisexual females I know, wind up with a man for a serious relationship.

I don't currently know any bisexual (or gay for that matter) men.

I've never known a bisexual man. Not one that could switch back and forth between partners of a different sex.

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Post by eddie Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:20 pm

I agree with you about women being more agreeable to having a romp but my main point is that among young girls these days, they all say they’re bisexual.

I don’t buy it. I think they they believe it makes them somehow exotic.

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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:34 pm

eddie wrote:I agree with you about women being more agreeable to having a romp but my main point is that among young girls these days, they all say they’re bisexual.

I don’t buy it. I think they they believe it makes them somehow exotic.

Exotic or progressive.

Or maybe just rebellious.

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:59 pm

We also have to remember we're talking about young people from a certain part of the world in this discussion. I highly doubt youngsters are saying they're bi to sound more exotic in, say, Syria, or Utah.

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Post by Syl Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:01 pm

eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:I wonder what % have actually been in a sexual relationship with both men and women?
Maybe some just like the idea of it so claim they are.


That’s what I think. It just seems to be fashionable. I know the girls at work haven’t been with other girls because I asked them outright.
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I love you
A nice thing to say....it's flattering to be fancied by females, they usually have good taste when it comes to other women.

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Post by eddie Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:10 pm

Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:I wonder what % have actually been in a sexual relationship with both men and women?
Maybe some just like the idea of it so claim they are.


That’s what I think. It just seems to be fashionable. I know the girls at work haven’t been with other girls because I asked them outright.
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I love you
A nice thing to say....it's flattering to be fancied by females, they usually have good taste when it comes to other women.

I’ve often, throughout my life, been hit on by women. I think it may be because I’m quite feminine, But I don’t know really
I had a little liaison with another girl when I was fifteen. We were both living in a children’s home at the time, (long story, I kept running away from home and was placed there for a while), but it didn’t go further than a little exploration.
I never thought of myself as bisexual because I knew I was into males.


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Post by Syl Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:15 pm

eddie wrote:
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I love you
A nice thing to say....it's flattering to be fancied by females, they usually have good taste when it comes to other women.

I’ve often, throughout my life, been hit on by women. I think it may be because I’m quite feminine, But I don’t know really
I had a little liaison with another girl when I was fifteen. We were both living in a children’s home at the time, (long story, I kept running away from home and was placed there for a while), but it didn’t go further than a little exploration.
I never thought of myself as bisexual because I knew I was into males.


You are a surprising woman....do you know that?

I can only remember one woman who was obviously attracted to me. She was a well known club artist in town, very butch and very loud.
She said i was wasted on men. Laughing

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Post by eddie Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:18 pm

Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:


I love you
A nice thing to say....it's flattering to be fancied by females, they usually have good taste when it comes to other women.

I’ve often, throughout my life, been hit on by women. I think it may be because I’m quite feminine, But I don’t know really
I had a little liaison with another girl when I was fifteen. We were both living in a children’s home at the time, (long story, I kept running away from home and was placed there for a while), but it didn’t go further than a little exploration.
I never thought of myself as bisexual because I knew I was into males.


You are a surprising woman....do you know that?

I can only remember one woman who was obviously attracted to me. She was a well known club artist in town, very butch and very loud.
She said i was wasted on men. Laughing

Hahahahahahahaha...Surprising how?


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Post by Syl Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:26 pm

eddie wrote:
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You are a surprising woman....do you know that?

I can only remember one woman who was obviously attracted to me. She was a well known club artist in town, very butch and very loud.
She said i was wasted on men. Laughing

Hahahahahahahaha...Surprising how?


Well in one post alone you casually say you are a lesbian magnet and you have been in a childrens home.
You should write a book.......oh wait... Razz

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Post by gelico Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:27 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:I think the source article might say this, or maybe I saw it somewhere else, but there's an idea that young women find other women more emotionally open, and they might be confusing that emotional satisfaction with romantic love.

The 18-year-old in the source article says she feels sexual feelings for men, but "romantic" feelings for women. I think that could be an example of this confusion of feelings.

agreed, especially with an 18 year old

at that age you are less likely to be aware of the many facets of love

sexual attraction to men is a pointer that she is straight

but the ''romantic'' feelings towards women are probably more along the lines of feeling relaxed, being open, being yourself, friendship, empathy, closeness etc which many woman feel towards each other without any sexual connection

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Post by gelico Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:28 pm

Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:

Hahahahahahahaha...Surprising how?


Well in one post alone you casually say you are a lesbian magnet and you have been in a childrens home.
You should write a book.......oh wait... Razz

edds is a hot chick rebel

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Post by Syl Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:46 pm

gelico wrote:
Syl wrote:

Well in one post alone you casually say you are a lesbian magnet and you have been in a childrens home.
You should write a book.......oh wait... Razz

edds is a hot chick rebel

cheers


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Post by eddie Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:50 pm

In my next life I’m going to marry Syl and fuck Gels on the side. Cool

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Post by Syl Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:56 pm

eddie wrote:In my next life I’m going to marry Syl and fuck Gels on the side. Cool


It wont work, I dont put up with infidelity. snobby

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:58 pm

Eddie does this all the time. Just today we were sitting with friends in a pub garden and she told a very close friend who she's known for at least five years that she went to college and got performing arts qualifications, and was in a theatrical production.

The friend was utterly gobsmacked, while I've gotten a bit used to it, having more experience ... it still is a bit weird, being married to someone you're still learning new things about, though. Most people would talk about themselves all the time if they'd had half the experiences eddie's had, but her? Nope. And it's not like you have to pry it out of her, it just comes up when it does.

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Post by gelico Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:08 pm

Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:In my next life I’m going to marry Syl and fuck Gels on the side. Cool


It wont work, I dont put up with infidelity. snobby

what if it's just a one off

it's only proper infidelity if you back for seconds

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Post by eddie Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:14 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Eddie does this all the time. Just today we were sitting with friends in a pub garden and she told a very close friend who she's known for at least five years that she went to college and got performing arts qualifications, and was in a theatrical production.

The friend was utterly gobsmacked, while I've gotten a bit used to it, having more experience ... it still is a bit weird, being married to someone you're still learning new things about, though. Most people would talk about themselves all the time if they'd had half the experiences eddie's had, but her? Nope. And it's not like you have to pry it out of her, it just comes up when it does.

One day I’ll tell you all about my sex change from a burly man to a woman. Cool

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:16 pm

eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Eddie does this all the time. Just today we were sitting with friends in a pub garden and she told a very close friend who she's known for at least five years that she went to college and got performing arts qualifications, and was in a theatrical production.

The friend was utterly gobsmacked, while I've gotten a bit used to it, having more experience ... it still is a bit weird, being married to someone you're still learning new things about, though. Most people would talk about themselves all the time if they'd had half the experiences eddie's had, but her? Nope. And it's not like you have to pry it out of her, it just comes up when it does.

One day I’ll tell you all about my sex change from a burly man to a woman. Cool

If you used to be burly then they must have shortened all your bones, too Smile

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Post by gelico Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:22 pm

eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Eddie does this all the time. Just today we were sitting with friends in a pub garden and she told a very close friend who she's known for at least five years that she went to college and got performing arts qualifications, and was in a theatrical production.

The friend was utterly gobsmacked, while I've gotten a bit used to it, having more experience ... it still is a bit weird, being married to someone you're still learning new things about, though. Most people would talk about themselves all the time if they'd had half the experiences eddie's had, but her? Nope. And it's not like you have to pry it out of her, it just comes up when it does.

One day I’ll tell you all about my sex change from a burly man to a woman. Cool


FFS! Eddie

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:19 pm




I'm buy-sexual... I always have to pay for it...


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Post by Maddog Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:25 am

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I'm buy-sexual... I always have to pay for it...


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We all do.

One way or another..

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Post by gelico Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:04 am

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I'm buy-sexual... I always have to pay for it...


Laughing




shades of nicko x

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Post by Syl Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:28 am

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I'm buy-sexual... I always have to pay for it...


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We all do.  

One way or another..

That's such a cynical way of looking at relationships. Evil or Very Mad

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We all do.  

One way or another..

That's such a cynical way of looking at relationships. Evil or Very Mad

Aren't they all a bit of give and take?

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Post by Syl Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:55 am

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That's such a cynical way of looking at relationships. Evil or Very Mad

Aren't they all a bit of give and take?  

Of course, but that isn't what you said.

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Aren't they all a bit of give and take?  

Of course, but that isn't what you said.

Wouldn't the giving part be a form of payment? Something of value?

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Post by Syl Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:01 pm

Maddog wrote:
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Of course, but that isn't what you said.

Wouldn't the giving part be a form of payment? Something of value?  

Nope...not the way I see it anyway.
You give you don't sell, you take you don't buy = give and take.


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Wouldn't the giving part be a form of payment? Something of value?  

Nope...not the way I see it anyway.
You give you don't sell, you take you don't buy = give and take.


You exchange things of value, to the betterment of each party.

Until one party decides there is not enough value in the exchanges any more, and looks for a new "exchanger". Cool

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Or a sports car. Shocked

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Post by Syl Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:08 pm

Once you start bartering, as in ...I will have sex with you when you buy me that trinket....or, I will buy you that trinket when you let me go out with my mates...and come in at 3am looking guilty...you may as well call it a day. Wink

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Syl wrote:Once you start bartering, as in ...I will have sex with you when you buy me that trinket....or, I will buy you that trinket when you let me go out with my mates...and come in at 3am looking guilty...you may as well call it a day. Wink

Some conditions are implied, not expressed.

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Syl wrote:Once you start bartering, as in ...I will have sex with you when you buy me that trinket....or, I will buy you that trinket when you let me go out with my mates...and come in at 3am looking guilty...you may as well call it a day. Wink

Some conditions are implied, not expressed.  

Makes no difference, many things are implied not expressed, they still boil down to the same thing.

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Some conditions are implied, not expressed.  

Makes no difference, many things are implied not expressed, they still boil down to the same thing.

That's where "one way or another" comes in.

Relationships require work.

Income requires work.

You can put effort into your relationship or put that effort into work that can purchase you a relationship.

I wasn't really suggesting that we negotiate a price for a certain amount of sex, but that effort is a form of payment. Without that effort, we probably won't have much of a relationship.

When someone says "invest in your marriage" it's not an accounting process.


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Makes no difference, many things are implied not expressed, they still boil down to the same thing.

That's where "one way or another" comes in.

Relationships require work.

Income requires work.

You can put effort into your relationship or put that effort into work that can purchase you a relationship.

I wasn't really suggesting that we negotiate a price for a certain amount of sex, but that effort is a form of payment. Without that effort, we probably won't have much of a relationship.  

When someone says "invest in your marriage" it's not an accounting process.  


You did actually say (maybe jokingly)  that we all pay for sex 'one way or another'.

That's what I don't go along with. Yes we have to put effort into marriage to make it work, but it's a lot different to a business arrangement.
Sometimes one person seems to do a lot more giving than taking, then it may reverse, no relationship is without it's up's and downs.
Whether you stick with it and wait for the good times to come back, or whether you trade one in for a newer model, (or a sports car)  depends on how much you have 'invested' I suppose.

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That's where "one way or another" comes in.

Relationships require work.

Income requires work.

You can put effort into your relationship or put that effort into work that can purchase you a relationship.

I wasn't really suggesting that we negotiate a price for a certain amount of sex, but that effort is a form of payment. Without that effort, we probably won't have much of a relationship.  

When someone says "invest in your marriage" it's not an accounting process.  


You did actually say (maybe jokingly)  that we all pay for sex 'one way or another'.

That's what I don't go along with. Yes we have to put effort into marriage to make it work, but it's a lot different to a business arrangement.
Sometimes one person seems to do a lot more giving than taking, then it may reverse, no relationship is without it's up's and downs.
Whether you stick with it and wait for the good times to come back, or whether you trade one in for a newer model, (or a sports car)  depends on how much you have 'invested' I suppose.

Relationships require work and effort. I equate that with some form of payment. Doing something kind for another person is also a form of payment. A payment that may or may not be repaid with something of value. Perhaps that something of value is just a good feeling from giving something of value to another.

It's all economics to me in one sense or another. We exchange time and effort for things of value. Our behavior is modified by these exchanges.

While my comment was a bit flippant, it's something I agree with. Relationships, including sexual ones, generally require effort or work in exchange for them being successful.

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Well we agree in principle, just not in payment.

For eg, the relationship you have with your daughters and I with my son, it's done with/for love, not for gain, be it economic or emotional, ....even though it probably does cost a fortune. Laughing

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Post by gelico Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:56 am


i get the effort/payment comparison

but men think about sex much more than women i think

they also sometimes see it as a kind of reward

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Post by gelico Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:57 am



if you were against commitment and only ever had one night stands i suppose you could describe yourself as Hi/Bye sexual


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Post by Syl Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:01 am

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i get the effort/payment comparison

but men think about sex much more than women i think

they also sometimes see it as a kind of reward

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Yeah, I think that's what I reacted to....the attitude that ALL men pay for sex, be it in the form of dinner and drinks for a one night stand, or for the long haul in a relationship.

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Post by Maddog Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:07 am

Syl wrote:Well we agree in principle, just not in payment.

For eg, the relationship you have with your daughters and I with my son, it's done with/for love, not for gain, be it economic or emotional, ....even though it probably does cost a fortune. Laughing

But my relationship with my daughters is better because I put in time and effort, which has value.

In my line of work (which is all about value) we have the concept of substitution.

What could I be doing or buying in exchange for what I'm currently doing or buying?

So everything we do has some cost and reward. In affairs of the heart, those values or figures can be difficult to measure, but they exist.

Here's another example. I was behind at work last week. On Saturday I really wanted to go ride my bike. But instead I spent about a half day at the office and made somewhere around 400 bucks. Using the theory of substitution, that bike ride had a value of $400, and if I had gone on it, one could say I paid $400 to do it.

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i get the effort/payment comparison

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It's because we value it. And as long as we do, we will modify our behavior to keep getting it.

Or be a whore dog and cheat.

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Post by Syl Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:19 am

Women enjoy sex too, but I have never known a woman to expect payment in sex, be it on or out of a long relationship.

Vive la Difference.

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Syl wrote:Women enjoy sex too, but I have never known a woman to expect payment in sex, be it on or out of a long relationship.

Vive la Difference.

If you enjoy something, it has value to you.

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Syl wrote:Women enjoy sex too, but I have never known a woman to expect payment in sex, be it on or out of a long relationship.

Vive la Difference.

If you enjoy something, it has value to you.  

Yes, but I would never think I have to earn it in any way.

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