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Post by Syl Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:57 am

"Fury and heartbreak following the disappearance of Sarah Everard has prompted people to declare "she was walking home" in solidarity with the 33-year-old.

Thousands of people have expressed fury that women often feel unsafe walking the streets alone after human remains were found in woods in Kent after Sarah went missing.

Sick of having to moderate their behaviour for fear of encountering predatory strangers, some have questioned if a curfew for men wouldn't be a better way of keeping women safe.

The outpouring comes as police say a vigil to "reclaim these streets" organised for Saturday in Sarah's name cannot go ahead due to lockdown restrictions.

One woman wrote on Twitter: "We know it's #notallmen but unless you can tell us how to quickly assess which ones it is, it's a pointless sentiment. #shewaswalkinghome#TooManyWomen"

Another quoted the author Margaret Atwood who famously said: "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."


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Post by Syl Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:09 pm

This has been happening since time began.
Women are AFRAID of walking alone at night. I don't know of any woman who is not uncomfortable or wary of walking on their own in the dark if a man is walking behind her.

Sarah Everard was just walking home from a friends house around 9pm, and some monster ensured she never arrived.
Talking about this to a male friend he remarked..."why on earth was she walking through Clapham common at night".
That's exactly the point....WHY should a woman not feel safe to walk home in the dark, and what can men do to ensure women don't feel threatened by them?
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:35 pm

Why are women still afraid to walk home at night?
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Because some men are evil hatefull bastards, who think women are just objects of sex
if i had my way Any man that treats women like that should be chemically castrated

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Post by Syl Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:45 pm

Korben wrote:Why are women still afraid to walk home at night?
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Because some men are evil hatefull bastards, who think women are just objects of sex
if i had my way Any man that treats women like that should be chemically castrated  

It's just a small minority of men who attack women, but many more are either unaware or simply don't care that their mere presence walking along the same lonely road in the dark can cause a woman to feel threatened.

I honestly don't know ANY woman who doesn't have in the back of her mind the thought she could be unsafe in some circumstances.

I have never spoken to any woman who has not, in some time of her life, either been called demeaning sexist names, been flashed at, groped, or even attacked.

The disappearance of Sarah Everard has brought the treatment women suffer from men under the spotlight.
It's time men did something about it.
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:58 pm

Syl wrote:
Korben wrote:Why are women still afraid to walk home at night?
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Because some men are evil hatefull bastards, who think women are just objects of sex
if i had my way Any man that treats women like that should be chemically castrated  

It's just a small minority of men who attack women, but many more are either unaware or simply don't care that their mere presence  walking along the same lonely road in the dark can cause a woman to feel threatened.

I honestly don't know ANY woman who doesn't have in the back of her mind  the thought she could be unsafe in some circumstances.

I have never spoken to any woman who has not, in some time of her life, either been called demeaning sexist names, been flashed at, groped, or even attacked.

The disappearance of Sarah Everard has brought the treatment women suffer from men under the spotlight.
It's time men did something about it.
I completely understand i am a big guy 6.1ft and have a naturally loud voice and know how this can be intimidating ,i have often found my self crossing a road or just waiting or hanging as far back from a lone woman at night as reasonably possible just so i don't scare them or make them feel uncomfortable

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Post by Original Quill Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:47 pm

Syl wrote:I have never spoken to any woman who has not, in some time of her life, either been called demeaning sexist names, been flashed at, groped, or even attacked.

And those are just southerners! Twisted Evil

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Post by Maddog Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:10 pm

Since I now live in a very urban environment where people walk, I've had to be pretty cognizant of woman walking alone, although I rarely see it. Women will walk in groups, with men or with a dog possibly, but alone is pretty uncommon.

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Post by Syl Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:56 pm

Korben wrote:
Syl wrote:

It's just a small minority of men who attack women, but many more are either unaware or simply don't care that their mere presence  walking along the same lonely road in the dark can cause a woman to feel threatened.

I honestly don't know ANY woman who doesn't have in the back of her mind  the thought she could be unsafe in some circumstances.

I have never spoken to any woman who has not, in some time of her life, either been called demeaning sexist names, been flashed at, groped, or even attacked.

The disappearance of Sarah Everard has brought the treatment women suffer from men under the spotlight.
It's time men did something about it.
I completely understand i am a big guy 6.1ft and have a naturally loud voice and know how this can be intimidating ,i have often found my self crossing a road or just waiting or hanging as far back from a lone woman at night as reasonably possible just so i don't scare them or make them feel uncomfortable

Korben, my OH has said the very same thing. He has crossed the road and sometimes quickened his step so he can keep his distance and then pass a lone woman at night.
I think when someone is walking behind it can feel very threatening.

I actually feel for males in this day and age. They are wary of speaking or even looking at children for fear that someone will be suspicious, and now it's becoming more and more public that many women are wary, even afraid of men without any proof that they mean them any harm.

Sadly that's either because so many have had bad experiences in the past, or more likely they have an inbuilt mistrust of male strangers when they are in a vulnerable position.
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Post by Syl Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:59 pm

Maddog wrote:Since I now live in a very urban environment where people walk, I've had to be pretty cognizant of woman walking alone, although I rarely see it. Women will walk in groups, with men or with a dog possibly, but alone is pretty uncommon.  


You dont see it because they are afraid to be alone at night, especially in lonely places.

There has been a phone in today on local radio. So many young women said they would love the freedom to go running or jogging at night, just like their male OH's are able to do, but they are just too scared of running alone in the dark.
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Post by Maddog Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:28 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:Since I now live in a very urban environment where people walk, I've had to be pretty cognizant of woman walking alone, although I rarely see it. Women will walk in groups, with men or with a dog possibly, but alone is pretty uncommon.  


You dont see it because they are afraid to be alone at night, especially in lonely places.

There has been a phone in today on local radio. So many young women said they would love the freedom to go running or jogging at night, just like their male OH's are able to do, but they are just too scared of running alone in the dark.

I know. My daughters rarely run alone.

I do know a lot of female cyclists that ride alone though. I guess a bike gives you speed to get away from people on foot.
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Post by Syl Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:31 pm

Yes, a stalker would have to be fit to keep up with a cyclist.
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Post by Original Quill Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:21 pm

Syl wrote:Yes, a stalker would have to be fit to keep up with a cyclist.

A flasher even more so. Laughing

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Post by Syl Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:23 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:Yes, a stalker would have to be fit to keep up with a cyclist.

A flasher even more so.  Laughing

Not always. One idiot who did more than flash at a friend and I as we were walking, was cruising alongside us in a car....masturbating as he went. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Original Quill Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:29 pm

A cruisin' flasher is like a cruisin' stalker. He'll get pulled over for driving under the influence... Wink

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Post by Syl Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:39 pm

In case anyone hasn't kept up with the news about Sarah, whos disappearance when she was innocently walking home from a friends house at 9pm at night, has provoked all this anger from women who are sick and tired of being afraid to walk the streets simply because they are women.

Sarah's body has been found in a bag in woodland. The only way she could be identified was by her dental records.
A serving police officer, who was accused of indecent exposure 3 days before Sarah went missing, yet was still permitted to work , has been charged with her kidnap and murder.
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Post by Maddog Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:45 pm

Syl wrote:In case anyone hasn't kept up with the news about Sarah, whos disappearance when she was innocently walking home from a friends house at 9pm at night, has provoked all this anger from women who are sick and tired of being afraid to walk the streets simply because they are women.

Sarah's body has been found in a bag in woodland. The only way she could be identified was by her dental records.
A serving police officer, who was accused of indecent exposure 3 days before Sarah went missing, yet was still permitted to work , has been charged with her kidnap and murder.

We have a similar case in Dallas, except the cop killed a woman 3 years ago. He was on the streets for much of that time and was just arrested about a week ago.

This is why I despise public sector unions. They protect terrible government employees that would be fired in the private sector.


Did this British cop know her?

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Post by Syl Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:50 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:In case anyone hasn't kept up with the news about Sarah, whos disappearance when she was innocently walking home from a friends house at 9pm at night, has provoked all this anger from women who are sick and tired of being afraid to walk the streets simply because they are women.

Sarah's body has been found in a bag in woodland. The only way she could be identified was by her dental records.
A serving police officer, who was accused of indecent exposure 3 days before Sarah went missing, yet was still permitted to work , has been charged with her kidnap and murder.

We have a similar case in Dallas, except the cop killed a woman 3 years ago. He was on the streets for much of that time and was just arrested about a week ago.  

This is why I despise public sector unions. They protect terrible government employees that would be fired in the private sector.  


Did this British cop know her?


Yes it's horrible. Rather than be protected they should be made examples of.

No new has surfaced yet about whether he knew her or not.
No doubt it'll all come out in due course.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wayne-couzens-know-officer-arrested-23694346
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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:41 pm

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Korben wrote:Why are women still afraid to walk home at night?
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Because some men are evil hatefull bastards, who think women are just objects of sex
if i had my way Any man that treats women like that should be chemically castrated  

It's just a small minority of men who attack women, but many more are either unaware or simply don't care that their mere presence  walking along the same lonely road in the dark can cause a woman to feel threatened.

I honestly don't know ANY woman who doesn't have in the back of her mind  the thought she could be unsafe in some circumstances.

I have never spoken to any woman who has not, in some time of her life, either been called demeaning sexist names, been flashed at, groped, or even attacked.

The disappearance of Sarah Everard has brought the treatment women suffer from men under the spotlight.
It's time men did something about it.

As a man, I understand how shit this situation is, but can I just say that I can't tell a rapist from a normal guy any better than anybody else can.

I'd love to help, but as I'm not aware of anybody in my social circle being a rapist/murderer, and I can't recognize a rapist/murderer just by looking at one, I'm at a loss as to what I can do.

You can say that boys should be taught rape is wrong, but rapists probably either know deep down that it's wrong, or they're crazy.
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Post by eddie Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:42 pm

Let’s put things into some kind of perspective though, most women do NOT get attacked, a high number, in fact don’t get attacked.
I grew up and lived in London and I often walked alone at night.
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Post by HoratioTarr Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:55 pm

Syl wrote:
Korben wrote:Why are women still afraid to walk home at night?
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Because some men are evil hatefull bastards, who think women are just objects of sex
if i had my way Any man that treats women like that should be chemically castrated  

It's just a small minority of men who attack women, but many more are either unaware or simply don't care that their mere presence  walking along the same lonely road in the dark can cause a woman to feel threatened.

I honestly don't know ANY woman who doesn't have in the back of her mind  the thought she could be unsafe in some circumstances.

I have never spoken to any woman who has not, in some time of her life, either been called demeaning sexist names, been flashed at, groped, or even attacked.

The disappearance of Sarah Everard has brought the treatment women suffer from men under the spotlight.
It's time men did something about it.

Yes, but anyone would think she's the first female to suffer like this. This has been going on since men and women evolved. It's nothing new. And how about creating a rumpus about misogynistic religions? I've lost count of all the honour killings that go on and nobody bats an eye.
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Post by HoratioTarr Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:57 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:

We have a similar case in Dallas, except the cop killed a woman 3 years ago. He was on the streets for much of that time and was just arrested about a week ago.  

This is why I despise public sector unions. They protect terrible government employees that would be fired in the private sector.  


Did this British cop know her?


Yes it's horrible. Rather than be protected they should be made examples of.

No new has surfaced yet about whether he knew her or not.
No doubt it'll all come out in due course.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wayne-couzens-know-officer-arrested-23694346

She worked with him.
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Post by Maddog Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:50 pm

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Syl wrote:

Yes it's horrible. Rather than be protected they should be made examples of.

No new has surfaced yet about whether he knew her or not.
No doubt it'll all come out in due course.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wayne-couzens-know-officer-arrested-23694346

She worked with him.

That makes sense. While random attacks happen, it's usually someone they know who rebuffed an advance or something like that.

Was he also in a supervisory position?
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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:03 am

It doesn't help Sarah Everard, of course, but it can help the rest of us trying to make sense of tragedies like these that conditions in the past were much worse in many ways.

Rape used to go virtually unreported, for example. Now, violent crimes of all kinds are on a downward trajectory in most countries. This is actually a great time to be a human being, compared to the past.

We'll never eradicate everything that poses a danger to people, but we're pretty good at making it happen less often.
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Post by Maddog Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:16 am

Ben Reilly wrote:It doesn't help Sarah Everard, of course, but it can help the rest of us trying to make sense of tragedies like these that conditions in the past were much worse in many ways.

Rape used to go virtually unreported, for example. Now, violent crimes of all kinds are on a downward trajectory in most countries. This is actually a great time to be a human being, compared to the past.

We'll never eradicate everything that poses a danger to people, but we're pretty good at making it happen less often.

Not just rape. Men using their positions of power to give women few options except to go along to get along.

It's why Cuomo is such a problem. The power discrepancy between him and those young women is vast.

Who does a woman report a governor to who is known for crushing dissent?


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Post by Syl Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:21 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
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It's just a small minority of men who attack women, but many more are either unaware or simply don't care that their mere presence  walking along the same lonely road in the dark can cause a woman to feel threatened.

I honestly don't know ANY woman who doesn't have in the back of her mind  the thought she could be unsafe in some circumstances.

I have never spoken to any woman who has not, in some time of her life, either been called demeaning sexist names, been flashed at, groped, or even attacked.

The disappearance of Sarah Everard has brought the treatment women suffer from men under the spotlight.
It's time men did something about it.

Yes, but anyone would think she's the first female to suffer like this.   This has been going on since men and women evolved.  It's nothing new.  And how about creating a rumpus about misogynistic religions?   I've lost count of all the honour killings that go on and nobody bats an eye.
She isn't the first woman to be murdered and left unrecognisable like a  pile of unwanted rubbish in a bag and she wont be the last.....maybe it's best if women just shut up and stay indoors then, no point trying to change anything. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Syl Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:26 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
Syl wrote:

Yes it's horrible. Rather than be protected they should be made examples of.

No new has surfaced yet about whether he knew her or not.
No doubt it'll all come out in due course.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wayne-couzens-know-officer-arrested-23694346

She worked with him.
How do you know that?
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Post by eddie Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:26 am

I don’t think Horatio is saying that, Syl. There just isn’t a “cure” for fear. Women either choose to walk alone at night - and like I’ve said, attacks rarely happen - or they can choose to live in fear.
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Post by Maddog Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:33 am

Syl wrote:
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Yes, but anyone would think she's the first female to suffer like this.   This has been going on since men and women evolved.  It's nothing new.  And how about creating a rumpus about misogynistic religions?   I've lost count of all the honour killings that go on and nobody bats an eye.
She isn't the first woman to be murdered and left unrecognisable like a  pile of unwanted rubbish in a bag and she wont be the last.....maybe it's best if women just shut up and stay indoors then, no point trying to change anything. Rolling Eyes


https://foxsanantonio.com/news/local/woman-shoots-kills-man-who-may-have-been-stalking-her-say-deputies

Some men on a slab down at the morgue might help.

Probably not for stalkers because they are obsessed and irrational.

But for some of these rapist, fear of being ventilated may deter them.
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Post by Vintage Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:35 am

You don't always choose though. I lived a 20 minute walk from the nearest bus stop my choice was never go out or take the chance of walking home alone at night. On two occasions I thought I wouldn't see the next day. I was only lucky that on one time a friend's uncle happened to be driving by and stopped and took me home because a man was keeping pace with me in his car in a similar situation to the one Syl mentioned. The second time I was actually grabbed and only got away because a couple were walking towards us as we struggled, they didn't intervene but they gave me the chance to get away and run like hell to my home. I really must have a face that invites trouble.

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Post by Syl Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:38 am

eddie wrote:Let’s put things into some kind of perspective though, most women do NOT get attacked, a high number, in fact don’t get attacked.
I grew up and lived in London and I often walked alone at night.

Serious attacks on women walking alone by a stranger may not happen to most women, but do you actually know or know of any woman who hasn't felt wary, intimidated, or just plain scared by a preditory man whilst just minding their own business?

I am not timid, but I know the feeling of walking somewhere isolated and feeling unsafe if a man is walking behind me.

We all know most men are not would be sexual attackers, but when most women have suffered some sort of sexual trauma, like being groped, flashed at, even spoken to like they were a prostitute .....is it surprising that women have now had enough?
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Post by Syl Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:39 am

eddie wrote:I don’t think Horatio is saying that, Syl. There just isn’t a “cure” for fear. Women either choose to walk alone at night - and like I’ve said, attacks rarely happen - or they can choose to live in fear.
Or society can change.
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Post by Maddog Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:40 am

Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:Let’s put things into some kind of perspective though, most women do NOT get attacked, a high number, in fact don’t get attacked.
I grew up and lived in London and I often walked alone at night.

Serious attacks on women walking alone by a stranger may not happen to most women, but do you actually know or know of any woman who hasn't felt wary, intimidated, or just plain scared by a preditory man whilst just minding their own business?

I am not timid, but I know the feeling of walking somewhere isolated and feeling unsafe if a man is walking behind me.

We all know most men are not would be sexual attackers, but when most women have suffered some sort of sexual trauma, like being groped, flashed at, even spoken to like they were a prostitute .....is it surprising that women have now had enough?

Yes, it's unfortunate that men have made women feel that way. Hopefully it's better for younger women. I don't think we can unring that bell for the women who have been treated like meat.
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Post by eddie Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:43 am

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eddie wrote:Let’s put things into some kind of perspective though, most women do NOT get attacked, a high number, in fact don’t get attacked.
I grew up and lived in London and I often walked alone at night.

Serious attacks on women walking alone by a stranger may not happen to most women, but do you actually know or know of any woman who hasn't felt wary, intimidated, or just plain scared by a preditory man whilst just minding their own business?

I am not timid, but I know the feeling of walking somewhere isolated and feeling unsafe if a man is walking behind me.

We all know most men are not would be sexual attackers, but when most women have suffered some sort of sexual trauma, like being groped, flashed at, even spoken to like they were a prostitute .....is it surprising that women have now had enough?

I understand the fear women feel, but my point is this:

Most women are perfectly safe from attack, they know this but still feel fearful. So is it simply just built up fear (mostly unfounded due to attacks being uncommon?)

I mean, what is the answer? A curfew for all men?
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Vintage wrote:You don't always choose though. I lived a 20 minute walk from the nearest bus stop my choice was never go out or take the chance of walking home alone at night.  On two occasions I thought I wouldn't see the next day. I was only lucky that on one time a friend's uncle happened to be driving by and stopped and took me home because a man was keeping pace with me in his car  in a similar situation to the one Syl mentioned. The second time I was actually grabbed and only got away because a couple were walking towards us as we struggled, they didn't intervene but they gave me the chance to get away and run like hell to my home. I really must have a face that invites trouble.  
I honestly think most women have similar stories Vintage.
But being grabbed by a stranger is horrible, that could have ended up in rape or worse if other people had not scared him off.
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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:58 am

I've felt unsafe walking alone at night. I don't expect to be sexually assaulted, but most of the people getting stabbed (UK) or shot (U.S.) when outdoors at night are male.

Everyone can feel unsafe at night if they encounter a person or a group who seem to be threatening. I'm not trying to make what happened to Sarah Everard sound like less of a problem than it is, but it's certainly not the case that men feel perfectly safe walking at night while women don't.
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This woman knew her attacker, he probably could have (or would have) attacked her in her own home. The point is, street attacks aren’t that common, and whilst it’s horrible, there isn’t any need to be scared to walk alone at night.

I get the feeling that this is a wave of horror that’s escalating due to social media hashtags like #reclaimourstreets.

What are we asking for? That all men simply not be allowed out after dark???
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Post by Syl Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:03 am

eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:

Serious attacks on women walking alone by a stranger may not happen to most women, but do you actually know or know of any woman who hasn't felt wary, intimidated, or just plain scared by a preditory man whilst just minding their own business?

I am not timid, but I know the feeling of walking somewhere isolated and feeling unsafe if a man is walking behind me.

We all know most men are not would be sexual attackers, but when most women have suffered some sort of sexual trauma, like being groped, flashed at, even spoken to like they were a prostitute .....is it surprising that women have now had enough?

I understand the fear women feel, but my point is this:

Most women are perfectly safe from attack, they know this but still feel fearful. So is it simply just built up fear (mostly unfounded due to attacks being uncommon?)

I mean, what is the answer? A curfew for all men?
From listening to women I know and know of over the years, and now over the last few days on TV and radio, it's obvious that many women dont FEEL safe when they are alone at night in an isolated area.

They dont feel safe because even if they have not been attacked, they have most likely suffered some form of sexual assault in their lives, and that has an effect.

I have been flashed at, had some creep masturbate whilst cruising in a car keeping pace with me, been accosted in a doorway demanding I accept payment for sex, and i wont bother about mentioning the creep in Paris who wanted to draw my portrait and when I refused he  drew a vagina, which he was wafting in my face.....he quickly changed it into an eye when my OH appeared. Rolling Eyes

And of course men shouldn't have curfews....but sadly many women do.
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Ben Reilly wrote:I've felt unsafe walking alone at night. I don't expect to be sexually assaulted, but most of the people getting stabbed (UK) or shot (U.S.) when outdoors at night are male.

Everyone can feel unsafe at night if they encounter a person or a group who seem to be threatening. I'm not trying to make what happened to Sarah Everard sound like less of a problem than it is, but it's certainly not the case that men feel perfectly safe walking at night while women don't.
Men may fear being attacked, but not by women, and not sexually.

It's a different subject.
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Post by eddie Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:07 am

Syl, I get that women have bad experiences due to perverts, it’s happened to me, but it feels as though women are taking this all out of proportion like a hysteria that is creeping through social media and other types of media.

As Ben rightly pointed out, men get attacked ALL THE TIME as well.
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eddie wrote:This woman knew her attacker, he probably could have (or would have) attacked her in her own home. The point is, street attacks aren’t that common, and whilst it’s horrible, there isn’t any need to be scared to walk alone at night.

I get the feeling that this is a wave of horror that’s escalating due to social media hashtags like #reclaimourstreets.

What are we asking for?  That all men simply not be allowed out after dark???  
Can you post a link please where it says Sarah knew her murderer?
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Post by eddie Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:09 am

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Ben Reilly wrote:I've felt unsafe walking alone at night. I don't expect to be sexually assaulted, but most of the people getting stabbed (UK) or shot (U.S.) when outdoors at night are male.

Everyone can feel unsafe at night if they encounter a person or a group who seem to be threatening. I'm not trying to make what happened to Sarah Everard sound like less of a problem than it is, but it's certainly not the case that men feel perfectly safe walking at night while women don't.
Men may fear being attacked, but not by women, and not sexually.

It's a different subject.

Well it doesn’t matter what the sex of the attacker is, and sexual attacks are no better or worse than being attacked in another way? An attack is an attack, no?
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eddie wrote:Syl, I get that women have bad experiences due to perverts, it’s happened to me, but it feels as though women are taking this all out of proportion like a hysteria that is creeping through social media and other types of media.

As Ben rightly pointed out, men get attacked ALL THE TIME as well.
And as I pointed out to Ben, it's a different subject. Rolling Eyes
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eddie wrote:This woman knew her attacker, he probably could have (or would have) attacked her in her own home. The point is, street attacks aren’t that common, and whilst it’s horrible, there isn’t any need to be scared to walk alone at night.

I get the feeling that this is a wave of horror that’s escalating due to social media hashtags like #reclaimourstreets.

What are we asking for?  That all men simply not be allowed out after dark???  
Can you post a link please where it says Sarah knew her murderer?

It’s on the actual thread about her. Horatio posted it, I think.
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Men may fear being attacked, but not by women, and not sexually.

It's a different subject.

Well it doesn’t matter what the sex of the attacker is, and sexual attacks are no better or worse than being attacked in another way? An attack is an attack, no?
Eddie, the whole point of the campaign that has been named 'Reclaim the streets' triggered by the murder of a girl who was just walking home, is because of MENS attitude and treatment against WOMEN.
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Post by Syl Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:15 am

eddie wrote:
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Can you post a link please where it says Sarah knew her murderer?

It’s on the actual thread about her. Horatio posted it, I think.
Thanks, I will look, I got sidetracked on this thread. Cool


edit.......just one remark?

I will wait till i see links that prove they knew each other.
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Post by eddie Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:20 am

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eddie wrote:Syl, I get that women have bad experiences due to perverts, it’s happened to me, but it feels as though women are taking this all out of proportion like a hysteria that is creeping through social media and other types of media.

As Ben rightly pointed out, men get attacked ALL THE TIME as well.
And as I pointed out to Ben, it's a different subject. Rolling Eyes

I thought the subject was about people being afraid of walking alone at night?
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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:23 am

All right, fine. Let's blame men for this crime and do something like a curfew for men. Because some of them are rapists, and people are afraid.

While we're at it, let's ban Muslims from airplanes, since some people are afraid that they'll be terrorists.

Let's ban white people from police forces, since some people are afraid they'll shoot unarmed black people.

This is the sort of thing that happens when people let themselves be controlled by fear.
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Post by Syl Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:29 am

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Serious attacks on women walking alone by a stranger may not happen to most women, but do you actually know or know of any woman who hasn't felt wary, intimidated, or just plain scared by a preditory man whilst just minding their own business?

I am not timid, but I know the feeling of walking somewhere isolated and feeling unsafe if a man is walking behind me.

We all know most men are not would be sexual attackers, but when most women have suffered some sort of sexual trauma, like being groped, flashed at, even spoken to like they were a prostitute .....is it surprising that women have now had enough?

Yes, it's unfortunate that men have made women feel that way.  Hopefully it's better for younger women. I don't think we can unring that bell for the women who have been treated like meat.  
The sad thing is the majority of men woul never dream of harming a lone woman walking in the street.

Listening to some younger women over the last few days, I dont think it has got better.

They wont run or walk alone at night, they walk with keys in their hands for some sort of protection, they have their mobile phones in their hand ready to speed dial for help ....and so on.
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And as I pointed out to Ben, it's a different subject. Rolling Eyes

I thought the subject was about people being afraid of walking alone at night?
Not quite.
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Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:
And as I pointed out to Ben, it's a different subject. Rolling Eyes

I thought the subject was about people being afraid of walking alone at night?
Not quite.

What is it about then? Women walking alone at night and not that the darkness and being alone is worrying for a lot of people of all ages?

Are we just talking about women’s fears only?
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