Greta Thunberg named Time Magazine's 'Person of the Year'

Greta Thunberg sits in silence in the cabin of the boat that will take her across the Atlantic Ocean. Inside, there’s a cow skull hanging on the wall, a faded globe, a child’s yellow raincoat. Outside, it’s a tempest: rain pelts the boat, ice coats the decks, and the sea batters the vessel that will take this slight girl, her father and a few companions from Virginia to Portugal. For a moment, it’s as if Thunberg were the eye of a hurricane, a pool of resolve at the center of swirling chaos. In here, she speaks quietly. Out there, the entire natural world seems to amplify her small voice, screaming along with her.


“We can’t just continue living as if there was no tomorrow, because there is a tomorrow,” she says, tugging on the sleeve of her blue sweatshirt. “That is all we are saying.”


It’s a simple truth, delivered by a teenage girl in a fateful moment. The sailboat, La Vagabonde, will shepherd Thunberg to the Port of Lisbon, and from there she will travel to Madrid, where the United Nations is hosting this year’s climate conference. It is the last such summit before nations commit to new plans to meet a major deadline set by the Paris Agreement. Unless they agree on transformative action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, the world’s temperature rise since the Industrial Revolution will hit the 1.5°C mark—an eventuality that scientists warn will expose some 350 million additional people to drought and push roughly 120 million people into extreme poverty by 2030. For every fraction of a degree that temperatures increase, these problems will worsen. This is not fearmongering; this is science.

Tommy Monk wrote:
Yawn...

Eilzel wrote:Why do so many grown men hate this little girl so much? Are their egos so fragile?

She kept an important issue in the spot light, and arguably thrust it ahead of everything else in a world that constantly lets other, less important things, get in the way.

Sometimes sending a message matters.

Which brings me to maddogs post. I heard about this guy a few months ago (before his success was hijacked by those looking to throw internet stones at little girls). Pretty sure Boyan would not seek to be used this way, nor that he made the discovery he did for the sake of fame or the spotlight.

Different people do different things to make a difference. It isn't a contest.  

Thorin wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Why do so many grown men hate this little girl so much? Are their egos so fragile?

She kept an important issue in the spot light, and arguably thrust it ahead of everything else in a world that constantly lets other, less important things, get in the way.

Sometimes sending a message matters.

Which brings me to maddogs post. I heard about this guy a few months ago (before his success was hijacked by those looking to throw internet stones at little girls). Pretty sure Boyan would not seek to be used this way, nor that he made the discovery he did for the sake of fame or the spotlight.

Different people do different things to make a difference. It isn't a contest.  

Men? I think you will find a number of people whether male or female, that believe she is being used by her parents more to make more a political view point over that of a climate change one

People have a right to challenge whether she should win an award

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, if they believe others are more deserving

It was the media that did more than anything to catapult this young lady into the starlight

The fact is people are awarded based on a subjective view around who is the best person. Ergo from a competitive view point.

So yeah she has helped bring this to the attention of a number of people

Which if nothing happens off that, then what then has she actually achieved?

Eilzel wrote:

Thorin wrote:

Men? I think you will find a number of people whether male or female, that believe she is being used by her parents more to make more a political view point over that of a climate change one

People have a right to challenge whether she should win an award

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, if they believe others are more deserving

It was the media that did more than anything to catapult this young lady into the starlight

The fact is people are awarded based on a subjective view around who is the best person. Ergo from a competitive view point.

So yeah she has helped bring this to the attention of a number of people

Which if nothing happens off that, then what then has she actually achieved?

Then she tried. Which is better than not taking an interest. Jeez, people endlessly deride young people for not getting involved, for apathy, for showing interest in nothing but social media likes. Then one gains prominence for an angry speech about climate change and those same people attacking young people for apathy turn it on them for talking about things that matter.

Should she shut up and focus on only studying and social media instead?

Maddog wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Why do so many grown men hate this little girl so much? Are their egos so fragile?

She kept an important issue in the spot light, and arguably thrust it ahead of everything else in a world that constantly lets other, less important things, get in the way.

Sometimes sending a message matters.

Which brings me to maddogs post. I heard about this guy a few months ago (before his success was hijacked by those looking to throw internet stones at little girls). Pretty sure Boyan would not seek to be used this way, nor that he made the discovery he did for the sake of fame or the spotlight.

Different people do different things to make a difference. It isn't a contest.  

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Mine is a reaction that will win me little support here, not that I am "bovvered" about that...just keep the reds coming; I wear 'em as a badge of pride.

I find her a  posturing, pretentious little muppet with her permanent ill-tempered scowl and ridiculous talk of "her childhood being stolen" as a young girl who is being propelled far too early and unprepared for a life of celebrity and even notoriety by eminences grises determined to exploit her childhood innocence as a vehicle for the promulgation of their own political agendas.

And before the usual holier-than-thou suspects start ranting on again about my supposed climate change denial, no,  I am nothing of the sort: Anyone who tries to deny that there is climate change is a fool. Its effect are painfully obvious, and they are getting worse and we must do everything we can to slow the trend and prepare early for a vastly changed environment and way of life.

But as someone with an arts as opposed to science academic background even I know that our climate has changed time and time again over this earth's four and a half billion year old history...and that it will continue to do so. Where I live, in rural England about as far away from the sea that it is possible to get, we find evidence of this once being a tropical ocean bed.

Low-lying islands and coastal areas are still disappearing under the sea - the latest incident occurred only recently in Suffolk about 100 miles from where I live - and new land is being created all the time by volcanic activity. And we have all just seen from the tragedy in New Zealand  exactly what those things can do,.

'Twas ever thus, and will ever be so...but I would much prefer real scientists to warn me about it and advise me on what we can all to to mitigate the effects to the best of our ability, and not some globe-trotting, carbon footprint-laying teenage kid who thinks that her hectoring and insulting attitude towards adults makes her some sort of earthly saviour.

Maddog wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

She is a puppet and a pretentious twat... plus she talks utter shite!

Eilzel wrote:Why do so many grown men hate this little girl so much? Are their egos so fragile?

She kept an important issue in the spot light, and arguably thrust it ahead of everything else in a world that constantly lets other, less important things, get in the way.

Sometimes sending a message matters.

Which brings me to maddogs post. I heard about this guy a few months ago (before his success was hijacked by those looking to throw internet stones at little girls). Pretty sure Boyan would not seek to be used this way, nor that he made the discovery he did for the sake of fame or the spotlight.

Different people do different things to make a difference. It isn't a contest.  

Ben Reilly wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Why do so many grown men hate this little girl so much? Are their egos so fragile?

She kept an important issue in the spot light, and arguably thrust it ahead of everything else in a world that constantly lets other, less important things, get in the way.

Sometimes sending a message matters.

Which brings me to maddogs post. I heard about this guy a few months ago (before his success was hijacked by those looking to throw internet stones at little girls). Pretty sure Boyan would not seek to be used this way, nor that he made the discovery he did for the sake of fame or the spotlight.

Different people do different things to make a difference. It isn't a contest.  

I don't actually understand why anybody would have really strong feelings about what she does -- positive feelings or negative feelings. She's just speaking out about climate change, like many other people do. She's not a hero, she's not a villain. She's just speaking out about an issue that is important to her.

I think anybody who gets really angry about her must feel threatened.

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

She is a puppet and a pretentious twat... plus she talks utter shite!

Erm, right, so that’s an emotional response, how about an intelligent one?

Tommy Monk wrote:

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

She is a puppet and a pretentious twat... plus she talks utter shite!

Erm, right, so that’s an emotional response, how about an intelligent one?

No... it's my honest and genuine opinion...!

Maddog wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Mine is a reaction that will win me little support here, not that I am "bovvered" about that...just keep the reds coming; I wear 'em as a badge of pride.

I find her a  posturing, pretentious little muppet with her permanent ill-tempered scowl and ridiculous talk of "her childhood being stolen" as a young girl who is being propelled far too early and unprepared for a life of celebrity and even notoriety by eminences grises determined to exploit her childhood innocence as a vehicle for the promulgation of their own political agendas.

And before the usual holier-than-thou suspects start ranting on again about my supposed climate change denial, no,  I am nothing of the sort: Anyone who tries to deny that there is climate change is a fool. Its effect are painfully obvious, and they are getting worse and we must do everything we can to slow the trend and prepare early for a vastly changed environment and way of life.

But as someone with an arts as opposed to science academic background even I know that our climate has changed time and time again over this earth's four and a half billion year old history...and that it will continue to do so. Where I live, in rural England about as far away from the sea that it is possible to get, we find evidence of this once being a tropical ocean bed.

Low-lying islands and coastal areas are still disappearing under the sea - the latest incident occurred only recently in Suffolk about 100 miles from where I live - and new land is being created all the time by volcanic activity. And we have all just seen from the tragedy in New Zealand  exactly what those things can do,.

'Twas ever thus, and will ever be so...but I would much prefer real scientists to warn me about it and advise me on what we can all to to mitigate the effects to the best of our ability, and not some globe-trotting, carbon footprint-laying teenage kid who thinks that her hectoring and insulting attitude towards adults makes her some sort of earthly saviour.

As a father to 3 daughters, I'm familiar with the theatrics of teenage girls.  It's something to be endured, not promoted.  

Ben Reilly wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Why do so many grown men hate this little girl so much? Are their egos so fragile?

She kept an important issue in the spot light, and arguably thrust it ahead of everything else in a world that constantly lets other, less important things, get in the way.

Sometimes sending a message matters.

Which brings me to maddogs post. I heard about this guy a few months ago (before his success was hijacked by those looking to throw internet stones at little girls). Pretty sure Boyan would not seek to be used this way, nor that he made the discovery he did for the sake of fame or the spotlight.

Different people do different things to make a difference. It isn't a contest.  

I don't actually understand why anybody would have really strong feelings about what she does -- positive feelings or negative feelings. She's just speaking out about climate change, like many other people do. She's not a hero, she's not a villain. She's just speaking out about an issue that is important to her.

I think anybody who gets really angry about her must feel threatened.

The Devil, You Know wrote:adolph hitler was times person of the year in 1938. He also liked Aryan girls with pigtails

Maddog wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Why do so many grown men hate this little girl so much? Are their egos so fragile?

She kept an important issue in the spot light, and arguably thrust it ahead of everything else in a world that constantly lets other, less important things, get in the way.

Sometimes sending a message matters.

Which brings me to maddogs post. I heard about this guy a few months ago (before his success was hijacked by those looking to throw internet stones at little girls). Pretty sure Boyan would not seek to be used this way, nor that he made the discovery he did for the sake of fame or the spotlight.

Different people do different things to make a difference. It isn't a contest.  

I don't actually understand why anybody would have really strong feelings about what she does -- positive feelings or negative feelings. She's just speaking out about climate change, like many other people do. She's not a hero, she's not a villain. She's just speaking out about an issue that is important to her.

I think anybody who gets really angry about her must feel threatened.

Why is she being paraded and shipped around the globe, and now put on the cover of Time magazine?

Are you saying she is just like Cindy, in 10th grade at Topeka High?

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Why is she being paraded and shipped around the globe, and now put on the cover of Time magazine?

Are you saying she is just like Cindy, in 10th grade at Topeka High?

Are you saying she's not? And if so, how is she different? Other than being paraded around the world and put on the cover of magazines, which is obviously because of her message.

Or is there some conspiracy to make Greta Thunberg famous or some shit?

Ben Reilly wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Why is she being paraded and shipped around the globe, and now put on the cover of Time magazine?

Are you saying she is just like Cindy, in 10th grade at Topeka High?

Are you saying she's not? And if so, how is she different? Other than being paraded around the world and put on the cover of magazines, which is obviously because of her message.

Or is there some conspiracy to make Greta Thunberg famous or some shit?

gelico wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Are you saying she's not? And if so, how is she different? Other than being paraded around the world and put on the cover of magazines, which is obviously because of her message.

Or is there some conspiracy to make Greta Thunberg famous or some shit?

Not only does Boyan Slat have the same message but he has more knowledge.  Furthermore, he has actively made progress in tackling it which is more than she has.  why is he not feted around the world, shipped here there and everywhere to make speeches?  why haven't Time shown his face instead of the perpetually scowling Greta.  Why no mention in any news articles, or papers.  why no interviews?

i know he doesn't have pigtails and go around shouting at people but still,,,,,,

The Devil, You Know wrote:
adolph hitler was times person of the year in 1938. He also liked Aryan girls with pigtails

'Wolfie wrote:

gelico wrote:


Not only does Boyan Slat have the same message but he has more knowledge.  Furthermore, he has actively made progress in tackling it which is more than she has.  why is he not feted around the world, shipped here there and everywhere to make speeches?  why haven't Time shown his face instead of the perpetually scowling Greta.  Why no mention in any news articles, or papers.  why no interviews?

i know he doesn't have pigtails and go around shouting at people but still,,,,,,

More bullshit from the peanut gallery...

Gelico is displaying her ignorance here, once again jumping on the polluters greenwash parade..

Greta Thunberg lobbies over climate change.

While Gelico's current favourite wet dream doesn't --  by championing a different person in a totally different "sphere of influence" with regard to 'environmental activism', Gelico and that ignoramus Maddog are simply helping the corporatist polluters in their ongoing attempts to deflect attention away from accelerating 'climate change'.

As I pointed out earlier, that non-story that Gelico and Dopey' are pushing is total bullshit anyway --
Won't affect current global warming/cooling trends;
While also not affecting the bigger plastic pollution problems in the Pacific --  4 or 5 times the Atlantic & Indian Ocean dumps combined..

By even peddling those misleading greenwash propaganda memes to start with,  Gelico and the fuckwit Maddog are simply showing us their idiotic anti-science, climate-denialist, pro-corporatist suckup mentalities...

'Wolfie wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
adolph hitler was times person of the year in 1938. He also liked Aryan girls with pigtails

Once again, you prove just what a know-nothing fucktard you are, DYKbrain...

Time's MOT goes to the person, organisation or event that their staff committee has chosen to be the most influential for this past year,  in their opinion..

No real surprise to witness DYKnose joining his fellow climate-denying anti-science corporate-suckup comrades on here, out to bash down a mere teenage girl --  DYKhead has finally found someone his own size to attempt to bully around.

gelico wrote:

'Wolfie wrote:


More bullshit from the peanut gallery...

Gelico is displaying her ignorance here, once again jumping on the polluters greenwash parade..

Greta Thunberg lobbies over climate change.

While Gelico's current favourite wet dream doesn't --  by championing a different person in a totally different "sphere of influence" with regard to 'environmental activism', Gelico and that ignoramus Maddog are simply helping the corporatist polluters in their ongoing attempts to deflect attention away from accelerating 'climate change'.

As I pointed out earlier, that non-story that Gelico and Dopey' are pushing is total bullshit anyway --
Won't affect current global warming/cooling trends;
While also not affecting the bigger plastic pollution problems in the Pacific --  4 or 5 times the Atlantic & Indian Ocean dumps combined..

By even peddling those misleading greenwash propaganda memes to start with,  Gelico and the fuckwit Maddog are simply showing us their idiotic anti-science, climate-denialist, pro-corporatist suckup mentalities...

#triggered

The Devil, You Know wrote:

'Wolfie wrote:


Once again, you prove just what a know-nothing fucktard you are, DYKbrain...

Time's MOT goes to the person, organisation or event that their staff committee has chosen to be the most influential for this past year,  in their opinion..

No real surprise to witness DYKnose joining his fellow climate-denying anti-science corporate-suckup comrades on here, out to bash down a mere teenage girl --  DYKhead has finally found someone his own size to attempt to bully around.

are you denying that time didn't make adolph hitler man of the year in 1938, or are you denying that hitler didn't like Aryan girls with pigtails.

you would probably have a lot in common with adolph
..

nicko wrote:There you go Members, what more proof do you need !

'Wolfie wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
are you denying that time didn't make adolph hitler man of the year in 1938, or are you denying that hitler didn't like Aryan girls with pigtails.

you would probably have a lot in common with adolph
..

Show me where I have "denied" anything,  DYKface...

Can't, can you, you snivelling little weasel --  because I haven't..

You're the moronic fucktard trying to bring Hitler into this discussion..

'Wolfie wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
are you denying that time didn't make adolph hitler man of the year in 1938, or are you denying that hitler didn't like Aryan girls with pigtails.

you would probably have a lot in common with adolph
..

Show me where I have "denied" anything,  DYKface...

Can't, can you, you snivelling little weasel --  because I haven't..

You're the moronic fucktard trying to bring Hitler into this discussion..

The Devil, You Know wrote:

'Wolfie wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
are you denying that time didn't make adolph hitler man of the year in 1938, or are you denying that hitler didn't like Aryan girls with pigtails.

you would probably have a lot in common with adolph
..

Show me where I have "denied" anything,  DYKface...

Can't, can you, you snivelling little weasel --  because I haven't..

You're the moronic fucktard trying to bring Hitler into this discussion..

pointing out hitler was man of the year in 1938 is pointing out that time is not a fount of all knowledge but gets it wrong spectacularly. you may be fooled by a 16 year old puppet, most of us aren't

eddie wrote:Wolf, can’t you reply without sounding like an angry teenage girl with PMT?

Maddog wrote:

eddie wrote:Wolf, can’t you reply without sounding like an angry teenage girl with PMT?

Is that a serious question?

The Devil, You Know wrote:

'Wolfie wrote:


Show me where I have "denied" anything,  DYKface...

Can't, can you, you snivelling little weasel --  because I haven't..

You're the moronic fucktard trying to bring Hitler into this discussion..

nicko wrote:OK enough is enough, is there a Mod with enough guts to ban or Basin this foul mouthed member ?  I'll take bets there isn't !

Thorin wrote:The question is here, in regards to a young girl. Who's intentions are good. Who has actually changed nothing or swayed governments. Or even offered a viable solution to the issue of global warming. Is then deserving of an award

'Wolfie wrote:

nicko wrote:OK enough is enough, is there a Mod with enough guts to ban or Basin this foul mouthed member ?  I'll take bets there isn't !

Fuck off, you senile old fool...

All I'm doing now, is defending myself against TD,YK's abusive insults;   after defending the thread against DopeyDawg's outright lies..

And you're so pathetically arrogant, that all you want to do is to "shoot the messenger", you sycophantic little turd.

If it's anyone you should want basemented, it's that disgusting piece of detritus DYK --  but you're too much of a slimy spineless bastard to ever consider doing what's 'right and proper', for a change..