Please note -- a class of words we don't want to see here

It's been brought to my attention that we've never banned insults that single out a specific gender, which was a massive oversight on my behalf. So from here on, nothing along the lines of "bitch" or worse.

Use your own judgment, of course. Insults aren't always insults among friends, right? And some are milder than others -- I don't see us banning "silly cow," for example.

Mods, please help me out on this one.

oh for heaven's sake

why ban anything

if certain people want to throw around insults and make chumps of themselves then let them

Gels, i do tend to agree with you, I’m never bothered by people calling me names, but some people do care.

So, no more dickhead, twat or allusions to sex parts?  Does 'fuck' come in here?  I always use 'fook'...may I make it a suggestion?

Original Quill wrote:So, no more dickhead, twat or allusions to sex parts?  Does 'fuck' come in here?  I always use 'fook'...may I make it a suggestion?

Well, seeing as nicko called his wife a dickhead, and I just called you a twat -- no, sorry -- you twat! -- those don't qualify as gender-specific insults, I'm afraid. And I'm quite fond of calling women assholes, simply because it's funny to me.

No problem whatsoever with cursing, I fucking love cursing. Just don't use words that single out one gender.

'Twat' is a reference to the vulva. 'Dick' is a reference to the penis. Those are gender-specific, sex parts.

'Asshole' is not...we all have one, and my golden retriever sure has one. 'Tits' and 'breasts' are gender specific sex parts.

Hell, as long as we are on gender-related banning, expressions like 'limp-wristed' are sex specific. Can we speak of pregnancy? Is a woman's 'bump' forbidden?

Gonna be mighty dull around here.

Well, I back the site owner’s decision but I remain of the thought that NO words should be banned.

And let’s face it, Quill, if someone called Les a “queer” or some other offensive gay slur, you’d be up in arms.

Original Quill wrote:'Twat' is a reference to the vulva.  'Dick' is a reference to the penis.  Those are gender-specific, sex parts.

'Asshole' is not...we all have one, and my golden retriever sure has one.  'Tits' and 'breasts' are gender specific sex parts.

Hell, as long as we are on gender-related banning, expressions like 'limp-wristed' are sex specific.  Can we speak of pregnancy?  Is a woman's 'bump' forbidden?

  Gonna be mighty dull around here.

I mean b i t c h, s l a g, c u n t (which is already banned) and other words that are only meant to insult women for being women.

That’s the trouble with insults (and they’re just words really) everyone is different and offended by something different.

Perhaps we should learn not to be offended rather than banning “offensive words” which are just letters written in a certain way.

“S l a g” is just “Agls” or “Gals” if you move the letters around. Right? Right!

eddie wrote:Well, I back the site owner’s decision but I remain of the thought that NO words should be banned.

And let’s face it, Quill, if someone called Les a “queer” or some other offensive gay slur, you’d be up in arms.

Yes, but policies aren't specifics. We can put up examples all day. But somewhere, sometime, you're going to run into a contradiction.

I'm a snowflake looking for a safe space where no one can call me "daft, silly, naughty or bad". I mean it!! I hope my feelings on the matter will be taken into consideration, thanks in advance.

Original Quill wrote:

eddie wrote:Well, I back the site owner’s decision but I remain of the thought that NO words should be banned.

And let’s face it, Quill, if someone called Les a “queer” or some other offensive gay slur, you’d be up in arms.

Yes, but policies aren't specifics.  We can put up examples all day.  But somewhere, sometime, you're going to run into a contradiction.

Yes. So see my above post....

eds wrote:Yes. So see my above post....

What? The one about "'S l a g' is just “Agls” or “Gals”? I thought it was a damn fine point.

The US Supreme Court argued about 'bad' words in the obscenity debate...for years. Hard and fast rules would have banned half of the great novels in the world.

They finally threw up their hands and said: "I know it when I see it!" Some rule.

Original Quill wrote:

eds wrote:Yes. So see my above post....

What?  The one about "'S l a g' is just “Agls” or “Gals”?  I thought it was a damn fine point.

The US Supreme Court argued about 'bad' words in the obscenity debate...for years.  Hard and fast rules would have banned half of the great novels in the world.

They finally threw up their hands and said: "I know it when I see it!"  Some rule.  

Hahahahahaha I like that.

gelico wrote:

oh for heaven's sake

why ban anything

if certain people want to throw around insults and make chumps of themselves then let them

I agree with you.
It's not the individual words ...I couldn't care less if someone calls me a silly cow or an ugly old harridan....water of a ducks back springs to mind.
What is more disruptive imo is the constant barage of random abuse aimed at certain female posters here .... I find that ruins the forum somewhat lately.

Sometimes it feels like we are back in the playground the names are so pathetically childish.

That's my take on it anyway.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Original Quill wrote:'Twat' is a reference to the vulva.  'Dick' is a reference to the penis.  Those are gender-specific, sex parts.

'Asshole' is not...we all have one, and my golden retriever sure has one.  'Tits' and 'breasts' are gender specific sex parts.

Hell, as long as we are on gender-related banning, expressions like 'limp-wristed' are sex specific.  Can we speak of pregnancy?  Is a woman's 'bump' forbidden?

  Gonna be mighty dull around here.

I mean b i t c h, s l a g, c u n t (which is already banned) and other words that are only meant to insult women for being women.

So you have a sexist inequality new policy

Good to know

I mean does this not come from a sexist stance that women cannot defend themselves over words?

I certainly think the women posters on here can and have often done so

You cannot have an unqual policy ben, which only seeks to protect women and not men

I demand that redneck is banned too.

What about other nationalist and racist epithets besides "redneck"...

I've seen some Brit's getting upset over "Paki'" and "wogs" on here, because of the insulting way that they are used over there --  even though they don't (at least not yet..) carry the same connotations down here..

What would the cricket be like if matches against Pakistan had to be talked about without using the neutral term "paki's", but instead use the term Pakistani's --  even more confusing if those from the Punjab were to be referred to as "Punjabi",  rather than which team they played for.

"And the Punjabi Indian bowler bowls to the Punjabi Pakistani batsman..  and the Tibetan-Buddhist-exile Indian wicketkeeper catches him out mid-run.. oh, what a wonderful day this is for sub-continental cricket."

And I've seen Brit's on here throwing around terms like "Abo" and "boong", and calling ex-colonial natives "savages" and "criminals" --  terms that veya and I know to be 'racially' offensive, but that often go over many peoples' heads on here..

And then there's all of those Americans too afraid to "call a spade a spade" these days -- I've seen one idiot hardware chain down here labelling all of those digging implements being relabelled as "shovels" in their garden section.. WTF -- are they scared that might offend some American tourist who wanders into one of their shops at some future date ?

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

What about other nationalist and racist epithets besides "redneck"...

I've seen some Brit's getting upset over "Paki'" and "wogs" on here, because of the insulting way that they are used over there --  even though they don't (at least not yet..) carry the same connotations down here..

What would the cricket be like if matches against Pakistan had to be talked about without using the neutral term "paki's", but instead use the term Pakistani's --  even more confusing if those from the Punjab were to be referred to as "Punjabi",  rather than which team they played for.

"And the Punjabi Indian bowler bowls to the Punjabi Pakistani batsman..  and the Tibetan-Buddhist-exile Indian wicketkeeper catches him out mid-run.. oh, what a wonderful day this is for sub-continental cricket."

And I've seen Brit's on here throwing around terms like "Abo" and "boong", and calling ex-colonial natives "savages" and "criminals" --  terms that veya and I know to be 'racially' offensive, but that often go over many peoples' heads on here..

OK

Ban Hillbilly too.

Maddog wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

What about other nationalist and racist epithets besides "redneck"...

I've seen some Brit's getting upset over "Paki'" and "wogs" on here, because of the insulting way that they are used over there --  even though they don't (at least not yet..) carry the same connotations down here..

What would the cricket be like if matches against Pakistan had to be talked about without using the neutral term "paki's", but instead use the term Pakistani's --  even more confusing if those from the Punjab were to be referred to as "Punjabi",  rather than which team they played for.

"And the Punjabi Indian bowler bowls to the Punjabi Pakistani batsman..  and the Tibetan-Buddhist-exile Indian wicketkeeper catches him out mid-run.. oh, what a wonderful day this is for sub-continental cricket."

And I've seen Brit's on here throwing around terms like "Abo" and "boong", and calling ex-colonial natives "savages" and "criminals" --  terms that veya and I know to be 'racially' offensive, but that often go over many peoples' heads on here..

OK

Ban Hillbilly too.

And how about the snowflake brigade's 'thought police' also ban friendly labels like "Yankee", "Pommie", "Aussie" and "Kiwi"...

Just because somewhere down the track, maybe in another 50 or 100 years, someone starts using them in a more derogative and insulting way than normally..

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Maddog wrote:

OK

Ban Hillbilly too.

And how about the snowflake brigade's 'thought police' also ban friendly labels like "Yankee", "Pommie", "Aussie" and "Kiwi"...

Just because somewhere down the track, maybe in another 50 or 100 years,  someone starts using them in a more derogative and insulting way than normally..

Nothing friendly about calling me a Yankee. I'm a Redneck.

This all comes down to the biggest Misogynist on here, namely Wolfie. Perhaps it's because I'm an old man,,, but I was brought up to respect Women, not all obviously ,but when I was young I would have no hesitation in decking a "man" who insulted a Women like Wolfie does,something I have done in the past. It must be the way he was dragged up, or due to a Women turning him down in the past. At home he is a Wimp who wouldn't say Boo to a Goose !

Personally, I find it damn difficult these days to know just who is of which gender...half the population appears to be wanting to be the other sex; changing into the other sex; changed into the other sex and wants to change back again or is even a bit of both.

nicko wrote:This all comes down to the biggest Misogynist on here, namely Wolfie. Perhaps it's because I'm an old man,,,  but I was brought up to respect Women, not all obviously ,but when I was young I would have no hesitation in decking a "man" who insulted a Women like Wolfie does,something I have done in the past. It must be the way he was dragged up, or due to a Women turning him down in the past. At home he is a Wimp who wouldn't say Boo to a Goose

Reading some of the fool's posts it is hard to avoid the conclusion that he's just a silly, attention-seeking buffoon who probably derives some sort of sexual gratification from it.

nicko wrote:This all comes down to the biggest Misogynist on here, namely Wolfie. Perhaps it's because I'm an old man,,,  but I was brought up to respect Women, not all obviously ,but when I was young I would have no hesitation in decking a "man" who insulted a Women like Wolfie does,something I have done in the past. It must be the way he was dragged up, or due to a Women turning him down in the past. At home he is a Wimp who wouldn't say Boo to a Goose !

It all stems from self respect imo, if you dont respect yourself how can you respect others?

Maddog wrote:I demand that redneck is banned too.

No stay, we would miss your input.

My youngest has a cross/neutral gender bestest friend who my daughter wants me to call 'they' rather than he or she.
For the record, she/they (not my daughter, who is the prettiest girl in the world) has lovely hair, doe eyes, pretty face , great boobs and  a shape most models would die for.
Very hard not to think of 'they' as a girl.

Whoever gave me a RED, thanks very much, shows I hit a nerve !

All of y'all who don't like this rule can go ahead and obey it anyway, and have a great day!

Ben Reilly wrote:All of y'all who don't like this rule can go ahead and obey it anyway, and have a great day!

No thanks, i will never obey a rule that is born from sexism and inequality.

Liberal my arse

At the end of the day they are simple slurs, hence the new rule is a joke, espcially when it places emphasis only one one sex. Allow debate to flow

Ben Reilly wrote:All of y'all who don't like this rule can go ahead and obey it anyway, and have a great day!

what rule? another one of your wanky rules? what did you decide on this time? i've missed it

anyhoos, you're a dictator

nicko wrote:Whoever gave me a RED, thanks very much, shows I hit a nerve !

I just added another to the one you already had.

nicko wrote:Whoever gave me a RED, thanks very much, shows I hit a nerve !

You obviously hurt his feelings.......

Well I agree with Ben. It's the intention which counts, and calling female members "classy ladies" is definitely meant to be abusive and offensive.

And calling male members "gentlemen" is highly offensive, innit?

I feel so hurt!

Oooh, it's been filtered.

We are all classy ladies on here.


phew, it worked.

Raggamuffin wrote:Oooh, it's been filtered.

As you are proving, Raggs...the game isn't offensive words. It's whose ox is gored.

Didge is going on about inequality, but is it REALLY the same when a man is called a dickhead or a wanker?

I'm not sure that it is tbh.

Syl wrote:Didge is going on about inequality, but is it REALLY the same when a man is called a dickhead or a wanker?

I'm not sure that it is tbh.

I'm waiting to hear Ben's response to nicko's calling me Cockwomble. How is that different from Cuntwomble...or is didge perhaps right about gender inequality?

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:Didge is going on about inequality, but is it REALLY the same when a man is called a dickhead or a wanker?

I'm not sure that it is tbh.

I'm waiting to hear Ben's response to nicko's calling me Cockwomble.  How is that different from Cuntwomble...or is didge perhaps right about gender inequality?

Cockwomble sounds cuddly and friendly though.....I can imagine people calling their favourite rabbit Cockwomble.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I'm waiting to hear Ben's response to nicko's calling me Cockwomble.  How is that different from Cuntwomble...or is didge perhaps right about gender inequality?

Cockwomble sounds cuddly and friendly though.....I can imagine people calling their favourite rabbit Cockwomble.

See?  That's a gender difference.  I luv the idea of a Cuntwomble, tho it's less and less frequent these daze. Don't even need a rabbit!    

Like I said...

Perhaps we should learn not to be offended rather than banning “offensive words” which are just letters written in a certain way.


People are really just becoming so delicate.

I can't think of any slurs against men that fit the definition of the slurs that are banned here.

We ban slurs that target someone for, and only for, being a certain color, religion, sexual orientation, and now gender.

Didge was trying to act like I've only banned anti-woman slurs. That's not true, I said in the OP that any slur against a gender is now banned.

The n word slurs a black person simply and only for being black; the s-lag word slurs a woman simply and only for being a woman.

Dickhead, prick, wanker, etc. don't slur men for the simple fact that they're men -- they carry the same connotation as asshole.

eddie wrote:Like I said...

Perhaps we should learn not to be offended rather than banning “offensive words” which are just letters written in a certain way.

People are really just becoming so delicate.

As you know, I agree with you eds. I don't think its "becoming so delicate" as it is people going tribal. Ya know, anything to hurl back.

Ben wrote:Didge was trying to act like I've only banned anti-woman slurs. That's not true, I said in the OP that any slur against a gender is now banned.

So, Cuntwomble is alright?

Original Quill wrote:

Ben wrote:Didge was trying to act like I've only banned anti-woman slurs. That's not true, I said in the OP that any slur against a gender is now banned.

So, Cuntwomble is alright?

Knock yourself out.

Original Quill wrote:

eddie wrote:Like I said...

Perhaps we should learn not to be offended rather than banning “offensive words” which are just letters written in a certain way.

People are really just becoming so delicate.

As you know, I agree with you eds.  I don't think its "becoming so delicate" as it is people going tribal.  Ya know, anything to hurl back.

Will we all become collectively offended if gay people suddenly get upset by the word “gay”?

Do we only become offended ourselves when other groups suddenly become offended?

If it doesn’t offend you already why does it take other’s offence to make us suddenly offended?

Anyone answer that?