Judgement day...

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


PMSL and you have just proven your deity is not that bright then, when he could do all in the matter of hours


DOH

the fact that God would not do it your way must prove he is smart as you clearly are not... :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

the fact that God would not do it your way must prove he is smart as you clearly are not... :D 

So he has the power to do this all in a matter of minutes, yet choses to make poor Noah and his family suffer 40 days at sea for nothing because he chose to be stupid.

DOH


You have no common sense, which shows this deity is not all knowing and powerful

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:



So he has the power to do this all in a matter of minutes, yet choses to make poor Noah and his family suffer 40 days at sea for nothing because he chose to be stupid.

DOH


You have no common sense, which shows this deity is not all knowing and powerful

lol where does it say Noah and his family suffered..

again the fact that God does not think like you makes him appear more intelligent.. :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

lol where does it say Noah and his family suffered..

again the fact that God does not think like you makes him appear more intelligent.. :D 

Have you ever been cooped up in a ship for 40 days and nights with continuous storms?


Please stop with the daft replies, as I have fallen over twice now laughing at the nonsense you reply

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Have you ever been cooped up in a ship for 40 days and nights with continuous storms?


Please stop with the daft replies, as I have fallen over twice now laughing at the nonsense you reply

lol they had trusted God to save them, God had told them to build a boat, collect animals, do you think they were scared they would die...lol

you are hilarious.. :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

lol they had trusted God to save them, God had told them to build a boat, collect animals, do you think they were scared they would die...lol

you are hilarious.. :D 

Point so far over your head again, if God can make all the water disappear in an instance, why could he not do the same to wipe out everything and thus save them endless suffering for 40 days?
That shows this deity is quite sick in the head really to make them suffer when he could have prevented that, and myself a mere human can show flaws in his work, hilarious  

DOH, you really do not grasp much poor chap

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Point so far over your head again, if God can make all the water disappear in an instance, why could he not do the same to wipe out everything and thus save them endless suffering for 40 days?
That shows this deity is quite sick in the head really to make them suffer when he could have prevented that, and myself a mere human can show flaws in his work, hilarious  

DOH, you really do not grasp much poor chap

what suffering..lol God had saved them...they knew they were fine... :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

what suffering..lol God had saved them...they knew they were fine... :D 

 ://?roflmao?/: 

Yes saved them from death only, not endless hardship being as they are now the only survivors

DOH

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


 ://?roflmao?/: 

Yes saved them from death only, not endless hardship being as they are now the only survivors

DOH

lol what endless hardship...lol you and your family saved and given the responsibility of starting it all over again.. :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

lol what endless hardship...lol you and your family saved and given the responsibility of starting it all over again.. :D 

Oh my, still neglects the point none was even necessary or the 40 days at sea, never mind, you will have the penny drop one day

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Oh my, still neglects the point none was even necessary or the 40 days at sea, never mind, you will have the penny drop one day

it is the way God chose and again thank goodness God does not think like you... :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

it is the way God chose and again thank goodness God does not think like you... :D 

Then clearly your deity is not very smart

PhilDidge wrote:Yes clearly he is stupid, being as I can devise better methods, thus your deity is thick

 :D 

Or the fact the views of men and not a deity at all, which is more the point, being as the biblical deity does not exist

PhilDidge wrote:I have proved I can, thus your deity does not exist being as it would be impossible for me to plan better than what is claimed to be an infallible deity.

Still waiting for your answer on if you can control who you are attracted to?

PhilDidge wrote:I have proved my way is better for the reason provided

Again answer the question you keep avoiding


Can you control who you are attracted to?

PhilDidge wrote:Hence why faith clouds any sense you once had

 :D 

PhilDidge wrote:Hilarious, as seen and proven you believe in gobbledygook based on man made works, thus clearly your view is the one cloudy, as your religious views are based upon faith not facts.

Oh dear

 :D 

PhilDidge wrote:My beliefs in evolution?

Really, I see evolution as a good theory, nothing more to help explain parts of life, I do not hold faith to the point in this that my life depends on it as is the case is with your faith, thus nothing clouds my judgement, where as you are clouded by commands from a book, of which you cannot prove is the word of a deity

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:My beliefs in evolution?

Really, I see evolution as a good theory, nothing more to help explain parts of life, I do not hold faith to the point in this that my life depends on it as is the case is with your faith, thus nothing clouds my judgement, where as you are clouded by commands from a book, of which you cannot prove is the word of a deity

so it is not proven, it is not fact, you are saying evolution is very much not proven, yes or no...

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

so it is not proven, it is not fact, you are saying evolution is very much not proven, yes or no...

Correct I see evolution as a good theory, I see creationism as unhinged lunacy, have never ever claimed otherwise.

Why do you think this is so important to you lol because it makes your claim better?

Oh my, so funny, your view on creationism is daft, it has no evidence, evolution does, it may though not be correct and happy to accept that.

 :D 

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Correct I see evolution as a good theory, I see creationism as unhinged lunacy, have never ever claimed otherwise.

Why do you think this is so important to you lol because it makes your claim better?

Oh my, so funny, your view on creationism is daft, it has no evidence, evolution does, it may though not be correct and happy to accept that.

 :D 

ha ha ha i didn't think you could say it, you pin all your faith on what man thinks is a good idea,evolution. while trying to put believers down for trusting in God.. :D 

you really are funny... :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

ha ha ha i didn't think you could say it, you pin all your faith on what man thinks is a good idea,evolution. while trying to put believers down for trusting in God.. :D 

you really are funny... :D 

 ://?roflmao?/: 

Hilarious I pin no faith on many things including evolution, hence why I do not debate it as such, it means little to me in the bigger scheme of things, hence my views on evolution are irrelavnt to the debate on your views on creationism, which is unhinged lunacy   :D 

I do not really debate evolution do I on her or elsewhere, thus my views are again not clouded as I am open minded to many ideas, ones though that are based upon no evidence are daft to say the least, which is your faith, which also as seen contradicts proving your deity does not exist

So you pulled a right no brainer on the evolution point with me ha ha 
:D 

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


 ://?roflmao?/: 

Hilarious I pin no faith on many things including evolution, hence why I do not debate it as such, it means little to me in the bigger scheme of things, hence my views on evolution are irrelavnt to the debate on your views on creationism, which is unhinged lunacy   :D 

I do not really debate evolution do I on her or elsewhere, thus my views are again not clouded as I am open minded to many ideas, ones though that are based upon no evidence are daft to say the least, which is your faith, which also as seen contradicts proving your deity does not exist

So you pulled a right no brainer on the evolution point with me ha ha 
:D 

you, in faith, accept evolution is true and that clouds your judgement, it is that simple, you have faith in what men have made up, whether it is true or not you have decided in faith to accept their findings..

I have in faith accepted there is a God...

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

you, in faith, accept evolution is true and that clouds your judgement, it is that simple, you have faith in what men have made up, whether it is true or not you have decided in faith to accept their findings..

I have in faith accepted there is a God...

Again incorrect, I see evolution as a good idea, but not a fact., that means I have no view to have faith in it, it is just an explanation to life, why do you think I need to even understand that view?
I have no need of faith on things I can work out myself, as to how humans came about someday someone will have the answer and thus will await to see if that happens.
What I take as the definition of stupidity is to place faith in a religious book that clearly contradicts and is base upon lies, as that is what you believe in, that is absurd to say the least

 :D

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Again incorrect, I see evolution as a good idea, but not a fact., that means I have no view to have faith in it, it is just an explanation to life, why do you think I need to even understand that view?
I have no need of faith on things I can work out myself, as to how humans came about someday someone will have the answer and thus will await to see if that happens.
What I take as the definition of stupidity is to place faith in a religious book that clearly contradicts and is base upon lies, as that is what you believe in, that is absurd to say the least

 :D

excellent so evolution is a good idea, it is not a proven fact, so on what basis do you think it is a good idea, on faith i assume, because you have read the works of other people and think well it adds up..but there certainly are holes in it...would that be fair to say.. :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

excellent so evolution is a good idea, it is not a proven fact, so on what basis do you think it is a good idea, on faith i assume, because you have read the works of other people and think well it adds up..but there certainly are holes in it...would that be fair to say.. :D 

Yes its a good idea, where as creationism is unhinged lunacy   :D 


I base this as a good idea based upon the evidence formulated, I do not though pin my hopes on dreams on whether it is right or not, you though place reliance on your faith in a religious book, you cannot prove is the word of God and in fact many of us have proven is full of contradictions and thus not the work of a deity.
So basically your faith is based upon one big lie

 :D

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Yes its a good idea, where as creationism is unhinged lunacy   :D 


I base this as a good idea based upon the evidence formulated, I do not though pin my hopes on dreams on whether it is right or not, you though place reliance on your faith in a religious book, you cannot prove is the word of God and in fact many of us have proven is full of contradictions and thus not the work of a deity.
So basically your faith is based upon one big lie

 :D

so how many holes make the difference from a good idea to deranged lunacy..?

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

so how many holes make the difference from a good idea to deranged lunacy..?

The Bible itself, being the biggest hole.

 :D 

The bible is a lie, and you place faith in a lie, and think it is fact, ha ha that is absurd and unhinged lunacy, because as seen the bible has been shown to contradict, and you hold the belief it is all the word of God. I do not call Christians who see the bible has contradictions and base their faith on the teachings of Jesus as loons, they are fine, but people who claim the bible is the word of god, are unhinged loons

 :D

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


The Bible itself, being the biggest hole.

 :D 

The bible is a lie, and you place faith in a lie, and think it is fact, ha ha that is absurd and unhinged lunacy, because as seen the bible has been shown to contradict, and you hold the belief it is all the word of God. I do not call Christians who see the bible has contradictions and base their faith on the teachings of Jesus as loons, they are fine, but people who claim the bible is the word of god, are unhinged loons

 :D

evolution is a lie and you see it as a good idea..lol so enough holes it becomes deranged lunacy according to you... :D 

though these contradictions in the bible have been brought up for as long as they have been recorded and yet here the believers are still here, faith is still strong, do you know why because as Paul says "for i am convinced" sometimes what you see as a believer is what gives you faith, not just the bible, though every alleged contradiction i have ever heard has been countered..

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

evolution is a lie and you see it as a good idea..lol so enough holes it becomes deranged lunacy according to you... :D 

though these contradictions in the bible have been brought up for as long as they have been recorded and yet here the believers are still here, faith is still strong, do you know why because as Paul says "for i am convinced" sometimes what you see as a believer is what gives you faith, not just the bible, though every alleged contradiction i have ever heard has been countered..

Is it a lie?

Really, so you say it is a lie but cannot prove it is being the fact it is a good idea not proven yet.

Yes we know you are following Pauline Christianity and not Jesus Christianity, that is the reality of many Christians today they base their faith on what mainly Paul said about Jesus


So again your view point to evolution has no relevance to me or the debate, I am open onto the view of evolution but do not see it as fact yet, but I also see the bible is a contradiction and thus not the work of a deity, thus your faith is based on myths and no evidence

 :D 

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Is it a lie?

Really, so you say it is a lie but cannot prove it is being the fact it is a good idea not proven yet.

Yes we know you are following Pauline Christianity and not Jesus Christianity, that is the reality of many Christians today they base their faith on what mainly Paul said about Jesus


So again your view point to evolution has no relevance to me or the debate, I am open onto the view of evolution but do not see it as fact yet, but I also see the bible is a contradiction and thus not the work of a deity, thus your faith is based on myths and no evidence

 :D 

if we go by what you call proven lie yes evolution is a lie, it has many contradictions and unproven facts..you could call it deranged lunacy... :D 

oh dear no I follow the entire bible.. :D 

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

if we go by what you call proven lie yes evolution is a lie, it has many contradictions and unproven facts..you could call it deranged lunacy... :D 

oh dear no I follow the entire bible.. :D 

Really do you even understand what a theory is?

That may help you understand what you are missing

Yes you follow Pauline Christianity, made up gobbledygook

Again you are arguing off the back of me having faith in evolution to your debate here, it is hilarious, when as stated I have said it may not be right, that means I accept it being a theory nothing more

PhilDidge wrote: 


My prediction was right, just more bullshit and clutching at straws.

victorismyhero wrote:"faith"!...the eternal excuse for ignorance and lack of education

victorismyhero wrote:yeah...I have faith in things that i can see, measure, feel, i have faith that those who seek after truth (scientists) whilst some times a bit misguided do eventually arrive at verifiable truth.

YOUR faith requires no thinking..in fact it DENIES thinking and discourages it.
If YOUR "faith" had its way we would still be living in caves....

heavenly father wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:yeah...I have faith in things that i can see, measure, feel, i have faith that those who seek after truth (scientists) whilst some times a bit misguided do eventually arrive at verifiable truth.

YOUR faith requires no thinking..in fact it DENIES thinking and discourages it.
If YOUR "faith" had its way we would still be living in caves....

there you are your faith is in what men tell you, that's still faith all the same..

victorismyhero wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

there you are your faith is in what men tell you, that's still faith all the same..

perhaps...but unlike YOUR faith...i have to think about "what men tell me" and I can at least check what they are telling me...

yours requires no brain power at all....

veya_victaous wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:

perhaps...but unlike YOUR faith...i have to think about "what men tell me" and I can at least check what they are telling me...

yours requires no brain power at all....

Right on Victor

Faith in People that make an effort to prove what they are saying is FAR more justifiable than faith in Men because they are quoting a book written by men a long time ago.

@HF
your faith is perilously thin being so heavily reliant on a book written by men and abused by politicans