Updated rules, and some commentary on them

First topic message reminder :

The updated rules are under "About NewsFix" at the top of the page. Here's a copy of them:

"NewsFix members include veterans of Shortnews.com and the defunct NewsHabit.net, along with a large influx of members who have found us through ForumMotion and other places.

As the name implies, NewsFix is a forum for the sharing and discussion of news.

It is not a place to carry out personal quarrels with other members, nor a place to discuss other forums, nor a place for posting hate speech against minority groups.

Thus, the first guideline is that a post should, in the spirit of a news forum, be of interest to anyone looking in the category in which it's placed. It follows that replies to such posts should be of potential interest to anyone looking in.

It is accepted that discussions will become heated and that insults will be swapped between members, but lines of common decency and propriety should not be crossed:

Posts that are obviously engineered to insult or provoke other members are not acceptable (action or discipline subject to moderator discretion).

Likewise, posts that are racist, homophobic or otherwise contain hate speech are unacceptable, and those who create such posts are subject to discipline including permanent banning.

Please feel free to PM one of our admins -- Ben_Reilly, Lurker, Caution, Veya_Victaous and Irn Bru-- if you need help. Otherwise, enjoy yourself!"

As of now, everyone is subject to administrator or moderator action if they don't follow these rules. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Just to throw out an example or two of what I'm talking about:

If you were to say, "I'm a Christian and I believe homosexuality is wrong and that gay marriage shouldn't be allowed, and that we must join together to stop the gay agenda," that is your opinion, stated civilly, and it would be allowed.

Resort to hate speech, however, and you could be disciplined.

Please simply ask yourself if you're behaving like a civilized person before you post in anger. I am guilty of doing that; we're all guilty of it, and nobody expects perfection.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Clarkson wrote:Hey Phjl thanks for your PMs presumably penned when you were pissed last night.


Glad to here you are getting an inheritance as you will then be able to stand on your own feet and not be a burden on the taxpayer. Far from being upset I am truly delighted.

Thanks a lot for letting me know mate.

That's a total dick move; some sites would ban you for sharing the contents of PRIVATE messages.

And others would ban a person who sends unwanted unsolicited PMs to people they openly insult on the boards.

I wish someone would send me rude, saucy or explicit PM's.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Are you high or something? If "Nazi" doesn't refer to one's politics, what does it refer to, then? Their German heritage? Their mustache? For fuck's sake!

But it is not being used to describe their politics, it is being used to describe them as a person you bloody fool. Do you not read the posts in your own forum? Do you not understand that the word "Nazi" has evolved into meaning a person with the most vile and evil traits imaginable?

A homosexual is a person who loves those of his or her own sex. A black man is a person with a black skin.  A "Nazi" is now universally recognised as a person who is thoughly evil; utterly beneath contempt; sadistic; totally lacking in morals...and it is in this context that Catman is using it, time and time again, against any poster with whom he disagrees about anything...and as a calculated insult intended to hurt and offend them personally.

And no, I am not "high or something" and I do not intend to sit quietly by and take such insults and insinuations from anyone, and particularly not from someone with whom attempting to debate  is like trying to explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity to an orangutan.

Nazi is a classification of ideology same as "comrade "

sphinx wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

That's a total dick move; some sites would ban you for sharing the contents of PRIVATE messages.

And others would ban a person who sends unwanted unsolicited PMs to people they openly insult on the boards.

You should speak to KaKa about that then, i had to put him on ignore due to abusive PM's.

Catman wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

But it is not being used to describe their politics, it is being used to describe them as a person you bloody fool. Do you not read the posts in your own forum? Do you not understand that the word "Nazi" has evolved into meaning a person with the most vile and evil traits imaginable?

A homosexual is a person who loves those of his or her own sex. A black man is a person with a black skin.  A "Nazi" is now universally recognised as a person who is thoughly evil; utterly beneath contempt; sadistic; totally lacking in morals...and it is in this context that Catman is using it, time and time again, against any poster with whom he disagrees about anything...and as a calculated insult intended to hurt and offend them personally.

And no, I am not "high or something" and I do not intend to sit quietly by and take such insults and insinuations from anyone, and particularly not from someone with whom attempting to debate  is like trying to explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity to an orangutan.

Pompous prat.

I use the term to refer to members of the far right, news publications even refer to members of the far right as Nazis!

Phil you call everyone who is mildly right of centre far right

Not to mention that Nazis were a socialist party.

Hmmmm is this Ben's forum or Sphinx's forum?

I hate the word Nazi being thrown about, I hav been guilty of doing though in a heated moment, but admit it is wrong, and disagree with Ben here also, but it is his forum. We have all tried to help Catman on countless forums, for it to be only thrown back in the face, why bother reading his posts, they are full of crap 90% time and not worth even debating.
There are far better people here to debate with than to be distracted with one, what amounts to nothing more than a irritation. He will soon get bored with himself if nobody is reacting to him

sphinx wrote:

Catman wrote:

Pompous prat.

I use the term to refer to members of the far right, news publications even refer to members of the far right as Nazis!

Phil you call everyone who is mildly right of centre far right

Not to mention that Nazis were a socialist party.

No i don't.
Your not another one, like that other UKIP fruitcake Matti, that thinks that the Nazis were left wing are you.   

sphinx wrote:

Catman wrote:

Pompous prat.

I use the term to refer to members of the far right, news publications even refer to members of the far right as Nazis!

Phil you call everyone who is mildly right of centre far right

Not to mention that Nazis were a socialist party.

No they were a Nationalist socialist party, a big difference

Catman wrote:

sphinx wrote:

Phil you call everyone who is mildly right of centre far right

Not to mention that Nazis were a socialist party.

No i don't.
Your not another one, like that other UKIP fruitcake Matti, that thinks that the Nazis were left wing are you.   

You think I am far right

Nazis sought to exterminate or impose exclusionary segregation upon "degenerate" and "asocial" groups that included: Jews, homosexuals, Romani, blacks, the physically and mentally handicapped, Jehovah's Witnesses and political opponents.
And given the apparent and demonstrated homophobia exhibited by some
Not necessarily a inaccurate  indictment

sphinx wrote:

Catman wrote:

No i don't.
Your not another one, like that other UKIP fruitcake Matti, that thinks that the Nazis were left wing are you.   

You think I am far right

UKIP are a far right party.   

Catman wrote:

sphinx wrote:

You think I am far right

UKIP are a far right party.   

No, that is incorrect, they are a right wing party!

Why can't people just take offence - life has far too many rules, regulations and red tape as it is without having to remember what you cannot say and to whom.

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:

UKIP are a far right party.   

No, that is incorrect, they are a right wing party!

Incorrect.
They are a far right party, full of far right extremists.

Tess. wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

But it is not being used to describe their politics, it is being used to describe them as a person you bloody fool. Do you not read the posts in your own forum? Do you not understand that the word "Nazi" has evolved into meaning a person with the most vile and evil traits imaginable?

A homosexual is a person who loves those of his or her own sex. A black man is a person with a black skin.  A "Nazi" is now universally recognised as a person who is thoughly evil; utterly beneath contempt; sadistic; totally lacking in morals...and it is in this context that Catman is using it, time and time again, against any poster with whom he disagrees about anything...and as a calculated insult intended to hurt and offend them personally.

And no, I am not "high or something" and I do not intend to sit quietly by and take such insults and insinuations from anyone, and particularly not from someone with whom attempting to debate  is like trying to explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity to an orangutan.

Well said Moletrousers.  But I fear you're wasting your time.    

I have reached the same conclusion, Tess.

Catman wrote:

NemsAgain wrote:

Again you drag me in
For the thousandth time of telling, I am sick of this left wing right wing horseshit.
For the record, if I have an issue with you or your posts, I can assure you its not about your politics or your sexuality, it is because you are a hypocrite and a self obsessed obnoxious little horror.
Hope thats cleared that up  :D 

Next time you start the next row on here, most often it has something to do with Sassy, i will highlight that fact.
You are a nasty piece of work, and i find you highly obnoxious, you nasty little bitch.

Give over you fool you dont know what you are talking about   

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


No, that is incorrect, they are a right wing party!

Incorrect.
They are a far right party, full of far right extremists.

point proven

Catman wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

But it is not being used to describe their politics, it is being used to describe them as a person you bloody fool. Do you not read the posts in your own forum? Do you not understand that the word "Nazi" has evolved into meaning a person with the most vile and evil traits imaginable?

A homosexual is a person who loves those of his or her own sex. A black man is a person with a black skin.  A "Nazi" is now universally recognised as a person who is thoughly evil; utterly beneath contempt; sadistic; totally lacking in morals...and it is in this context that Catman is using it, time and time again, against any poster with whom he disagrees about anything...and as a calculated insult intended to hurt and offend them personally.

And no, I am not "high or something" and I do not intend to sit quietly by and take such insults and insinuations from anyone, and particularly not from someone with whom attempting to debate  is like trying to explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity to an orangutan.

Pompous prat.

I use the term to refer to members of the far right, news publications even refer to members of the far right as Nazis!

We are all perfectly aware that any post that exceeds the literary level of Janet & John Book 2 will have progressed far beyond the limits of your comprehension.

sphinx wrote:

Catman wrote:
Incorrect.
They are a far right party, full of far right extremists.

point proven

You can't deny that most of the former BNP members have gravitated to UKIP, i have studied forums and UKIP and BNP members mostly agree over everything.
UKIP are referred to in some sections of the press as the BNP in suits.

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


No, that is incorrect, they are a right wing party!

Incorrect.
They are a far right party, full of far right extremists.

No that is called gobbledegook


gobbledegook
ˈgɒb(ə)ldɪˌguːk,-ˌgʊk/Submit
nouninformal
noun: gobbledygook
1.
language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of technical terms.


Sums you up to a tea

I'm BNP in a straightjacket.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Catman wrote:

Pompous prat.

I use the term to refer to members of the far right, news publications even refer to members of the far right as Nazis!

We are all perfectly aware that any post that exceeds the literary level of Janet & John Book 2 will have progressed far beyond the limits of your comprehension.

You need to get down off that high horse of yours, you rude little man.

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:
Incorrect.
They are a far right party, full of far right extremists.

No that is called gobbledegook


gobbledegook
ˈgɒb(ə)ldɪˌguːk,-ˌgʊk/Submit
nouninformal
noun: gobbledygook
1.
language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of technical terms.


Sums you up to a tea

I think that term would apply to the majority of your posts.

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


No, that is incorrect, they are a right wing party!

Incorrect.
They are a far right party, full of far right extremists.

In Catman's warped, diseased mind anyone and everyone who does not support Labour wears a uniform sporting swastika emblems, attends Nuremberg-style rallies in Milton Keynes, sings the Horst Wessel Lied three times a day, gasses Jews and lies awake at night planning the invasion of Poland.

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


No that is called gobbledegook


gobbledegook
ˈgɒb(ə)ldɪˌguːk,-ˌgʊk/Submit
nouninformal
noun: gobbledygook
1.
language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of technical terms.


Sums you up to a tea

I think that term would apply to the majority of your posts.

What a rebuttal, so original, not , the fact is you hold absurd views, UKIP is neither far right or racist

Catman wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

We are all perfectly aware that any post that exceeds the literary level of Janet & John Book 2 will have progressed far beyond the limits of your comprehension.

You need to get down off that high horse of yours, you rude little man.

One does not need a very high horse to be able to look down on such objectionable specimen as you.

Catman wrote:

sphinx wrote:

point proven

You can't deny that most of the former BNP members have gravitated to UKIP, i have studied forums and UKIP and BNP members mostly agree over everything.
UKIP are referred to in some sections of the press as the BNP in suits.

Yes and gays are referred to in some sections of the press as perverted, and child abusers. I have the intelligence to know that is not true.

Former BNP members can gravitate all they like - they will not get in because unlike Labour, the Lib Dems and the Tories we wont tolerate them.

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:

I think that term would apply to the majority of your posts.

What a rebuttal, so original, not , the fact is you hold absurd views, UKIP is neither far right or racist  

Well lots of people, both on the left and the right of the political spectrum, are always telling you so!

 ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: 

Matti is UKIP and he holds very racist and homophobic views, along with people like Tom Sawyer etc!

Catman wrote:Matti is UKIP and he holds very racist and homophobic views, along with people like Tom Sawyer etc!

and old Uncle Tom Cobley and all....
Old uncle Tom Cobley and all.

FFS guys,  just leave him be.  Just about every one of you has said ignore him yet you still persist.

Walk away.

Catman wrote:

Beekeeper wrote:

Catman wrote:

Next time you start the next row on here, most often it has something to do with Sassy, i will highlight that fact.
You are a nasty piece of work, and i find you highly obnoxious, you nasty little bitch.

  

STOP your lying bullshite and selfish stirring on here , Phil !!!

THAT'S already against those new rules !    

She said  'you are a hypocrite and a self obsessed obnoxious little horror'

I will respond to her abuse, and point out the facts, whether you like that or not.

I missed this. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Her calling you a hypocrite is a criticism of your views. You calling her a bitch is not acceptable, as it's an attack on who she is.

Cut it out.

It's really funny that the right wing expect to dictate how this forum is run, can't they just accept that some people have different opinions on how a forum should be run..Stop being so fascist!

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Catman wrote:

She said  'you are a hypocrite and a self obsessed obnoxious little horror'

I will respond to her abuse, and point out the facts, whether you like that or not.

I missed this. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Her calling you a hypocrite is a criticism of your views. You calling her a bitch is not acceptable, as it's an attack on who she is.

Cut it out.

Thanks Ben  :D 

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Catman wrote:

She said  'you are a hypocrite and a self obsessed obnoxious little horror'

I will respond to her abuse, and point out the facts, whether you like that or not.

I missed this. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Her calling you a hypocrite is a criticism of your views. You calling her a bitch is not acceptable, as it's an attack on who she is.

Cut it out.

Lol. What a b4st4rd.

But funny.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Catman wrote:

She said  'you are a hypocrite and a self obsessed obnoxious little horror'

I will respond to her abuse, and point out the facts, whether you like that or not.

I missed this. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Her calling you a hypocrite is a criticism of your views. You calling her a bitch is not acceptable, as it's an attack on who she is.

Cut it out.

She called me an 'obnoxious little horror'....That was uncalled for!

Catman wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Catman wrote:

She said  'you are a hypocrite and a self obsessed obnoxious little horror'

I will respond to her abuse, and point out the facts, whether you like that or not.

I missed this. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Her calling you a hypocrite is a criticism of your views. You calling her a bitch is not acceptable, as it's an attack on who she is.

Cut it out.

She called me an 'obnoxious little horror'....That was uncalled for!

Not even the same thing as a slur based on her being a woman. I can't keep people here from using abusive terms for gay people without also asking you to stop using an abusive term toward women, right?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Catman wrote:

She called me an 'obnoxious little horror'....That was uncalled for!

Not even the same thing as a slur based on her being a woman. I can't keep people here from using abusive terms for gay people without also asking you to stop using an abusive term toward women, right?

OK.....Now that i'm aware that i can't use that word, i will refrain from using it again.

OH. MY. GOD.

He called me this
she called me that
you're right wing
I'm a chicken wing
He's a Nazi
She's a turdinabirdbath

Blah
Fucking
Blah.

eddie wrote:OH. MY. GOD.

He called me this
she called me that
you're right wing
I'm a chicken wing
He's a Nazi
She's a turdinabirdbath

Blah
Fucking
Blah.

Eddie, this has been going on like this for weeks and weeks.

It aint going to change.

BigAndy9 wrote:

eddie wrote:OH. MY. GOD.

He called me this
she called me that
you're right wing
I'm a chicken wing
He's a Nazi
She's a turdinabirdbath

Blah
Fucking
Blah.

Eddie, this has been going on like this for weeks and weeks.

It aint going to change.

This has been going on for years
its their whole life for some on here.

NemsAgain wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:


Eddie, this has been going on like this for weeks and weeks.

It aint going to change.

This has been going on for years
its their whole life for some on here.

lol

True.

eddie wrote:OH. MY. GOD.

He called me this
she called me that
you're right wing
I'm a chicken wing
He's a Nazi
She's a turdinabirdbath

Blah
Fucking
Blah.

You've never been on the receiving end of a campaign of hate Eddie, how would you feel if after every post you made, a group of people posted vile comments, attacking yourself and your family?

...You really don't know what that's like.

Catman wrote:

eddie wrote:OH. MY. GOD.

He called me this
she called me that
you're right wing
I'm a chicken wing
He's a Nazi
She's a turdinabirdbath

Blah
Fucking
Blah.

You've never been on the receiving end of a campaign of hate Eddie, how would you feel if after every post you made, a group of people posted vile comments, attacking yourself and your family?

...You really don't know what that's like.

Mr Catman.

Do me a small favour - do not post anything remotely abusive for a week.

Then we can see who is being nasty to you and support your corner in the future.

Let's just see what's going on. But it's hard to see the full picture if you muddle it up with naughty words yourself.

New'sFucked.DieBored.com

 

Catman wrote:

eddie wrote:OH. MY. GOD.

He called me this
she called me that
you're right wing
I'm a chicken wing
He's a Nazi
She's a turdinabirdbath

Blah
Fucking
Blah.

You've never been on the receiving end of a campaign of hate Eddie, how would you feel if after every post you made, a group of people posted vile comments, attacking yourself and your family?

...You really don't know what that's like.

I would do one of two things:

Never post again as it would drive me batty to keep battling all day
OR
Change my way of speaking to people and rise above them; they will get bored!

But I have said this to you for years.

BigAndy9 wrote:

Catman wrote:

You've never been on the receiving end of a campaign of hate Eddie, how would you feel if after every post you made, a group of people posted vile comments, attacking yourself and your family?

...You really don't know what that's like.

Mr Catman.

Do me a small favour - do not post anything remotely abusive for a week.

Then we can see who is being nasty to you and support your corner in the future.

Let's just see what's going on.  But it's hard to see the full picture if you muddle it up with naughty words yourself.

Did that the other day.

Catman wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:

Mr Catman.

Do me a small favour - do not post anything remotely abusive for a week.

Then we can see who is being nasty to you and support your corner in the future.

Let's just see what's going on.  But it's hard to see the full picture if you muddle it up with naughty words yourself.

Did that the other day.

What d'you mean, "the other day"?

For how long - 30 minutes?

eddie wrote:

Catman wrote:

You've never been on the receiving end of a campaign of hate Eddie, how would you feel if after every post you made, a group of people posted vile comments, attacking yourself and your family?

...You really don't know what that's like.

I would do one of two things:

Never post again as it would drive me batty to keep battling all day
OR
Change my way of speaking to people and rise above them; they will get bored!

But I have said this to you for years.

Done that and got the T shirt.

Makes no difference at all.

Catman wrote:

eddie wrote:

I would do one of two things:

Never post again as it would drive me batty to keep battling all day
OR
Change my way of speaking to people and rise above them; they will get bored!

But I have said this to you for years.

Done that and got the T shirt.

Makes no difference at all.

Phil it isn't "Done that" it's about "Doing it"

It's a permanent change. If people know you're trying it on for size they're gonna make you take it off.
It's got to be who you are.