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Bens misjudged it again anyway
THIS is more likely whats goin down in eddies living room at night
https://youtu.be/l2PoSljk8cE
THIS is more likely whats goin down in eddies living room at night
https://youtu.be/l2PoSljk8cE
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I enjoyed that.
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The dead won't hurt you Edds, it's the living you have to watch out for.eddie wrote:I really hate ghosts. I actually asked my dad to never sit on my bed, or just "appear" to me, after he died.
My mum comes and sits on my bed sometimes, I find it comforting
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Miffs2 wrote:The dead won't hurt you Edds, it's the living you have to watch out for.eddie wrote:I really hate ghosts. I actually asked my dad to never sit on my bed, or just "appear" to me, after he died.
My mum comes and sits on my bed sometimes, I find it comforting
No!! I even told my beloved grandfather, when you die do not come and visit me! And he laughed and said he definitely would now I'd said that.
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Hahahahaeddie wrote:Miffs2 wrote:
The dead won't hurt you Edds, it's the living you have to watch out for.
My mum comes and sits on my bed sometimes, I find it comforting
No!! I even told my beloved grandfather, when you die do not come and visit me! And he laughed and said he definitely would now I'd said that.
Doesn't worry me. Been brought up on it I guess.
And I remember telling all my haunted house tales on Hand (I think)
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Yes you did. I remember.
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https://youtu.be/-9dbAQJIu1o
there's something down there
there's something down there
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**FREAKY** 7 day forecast for my region ~~~
Never in my 16 years of living down here, have I had a summer that I wasn't watering my landscape young trees - bushes every other day. Dragging hoses around and connecting them back to the well, staging the soaker hoses - the sprinkler systems - setting the timer and moving all that around according to specific watering needs.
Nope, not this year ...this year it's been a struggle trying to stay ahead of the grass growth in between the rains, really hard on the mower when the grass is far too wet to cut. And keeping my
basement dry and mold free.
Nope, not this year ...this year it's been a struggle trying to stay ahead of the grass growth in between the rains, really hard on the mower when the grass is far too wet to cut. And keeping my
basement dry and mold free.
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Victor, I see you used to watch "Trapdoor" so did I, the Wife would take the piss!
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a good excuse/reason for having kids Nicko......
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4EVER2 wrote:Never in my 16 years of living down here, have I had a summer that I wasn't watering my landscape young trees - bushes every other day. Dragging hoses around and connecting them back to the well, staging the soaker hoses - the sprinkler systems - setting the timer and moving all that around according to specific watering needs.
Nope, not this year ...this year it's been a struggle trying to stay ahead of the grass growth in between the rains, really hard on the mower when the grass is far too wet to cut. And keeping my
basement dry and mold free.
Same here....maybe not as extreme but we have had the wettest summer I can remember.
When it's not raining it's just grey murky cloud....and temps hovering around the 15 to 17c mark...with a chilly wind to boot.
What a MISERABLE summer.
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We've had a weird summer in Texas, too. It rained a lot in June and has rained a lot this month, but the weirdest thing was going to the first high-school football game of the season last night.
Usually you expect it to be around 100 at the 7-7:30 p.m. start to the game, not unusual at all to see very well-conditioned athletes being pulled for long stretches of time to re-hydrate and cool down.
Last night it was 85 at kickoff and in the low 70s by the end of the game. It literally felt like we were six weeks into the season already.
Usually you expect it to be around 100 at the 7-7:30 p.m. start to the game, not unusual at all to see very well-conditioned athletes being pulled for long stretches of time to re-hydrate and cool down.
Last night it was 85 at kickoff and in the low 70s by the end of the game. It literally felt like we were six weeks into the season already.
Another round of thunder clouds building - rolling this way!
A friend headed home on their Harley Motorcycles sent this
via their FB page ...they're in a hurry to beat this storm that's
coming into our area.
4th evening in a row for heavy thunder/lightening
and rain!
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sassy wrote:Thought you had already turned off, you don't want a lightning strike!!!
I'm watching my 'RADAR' and have my ear tuned to the thunder ...how far out it is from my comfy home ...but it is moving rapidly!
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sassy wrote:You be careful, mind you, sure you are well used to coping with them!
We just had quite a shower and the sun was shining brightly too - ought to be some massive rainbows out soon.
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ach...get outside and take a bolt...It'll do your hairstyle a whole load of good
(warning.....the use of lightening as a hair stlying product is not recomended by the FDA, as it may impair your quality of life)
(Warning...lightening is known to the state of califorina to cause death and summon satan on your hard drive)
(warning.....the use of lightening as a hair stlying product is not recomended by the FDA, as it may impair your quality of life)
(Warning...lightening is known to the state of califorina to cause death and summon satan on your hard drive)
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While I'm dealing with an evening of bountiful rainfall and trying to stay ahead of the
seepage coming into my basement - at least I didn't get this, this horrid mess that dumped onto Colorado Springs on Monday. Ice Pellets {hail} clogged the storm drains - caused the rain water to back up - flooded the streets and then the extra weight of the ice pellets broke roofs around town as well.
Colorado Springs - Monday afternoon 8/29/2016 no, that's not water that's
2' or deeper of ice pellets that started coming down and just kept coming down
for over a couple of hours.
BTW - your 'FOULNESS' ...your immature post didn't go un-noticed but as your childish behavior is just further proof that you are as bad as those that you protect
You are never going to move off of that stump of stupidity behaving in that way!
GROW THE HELL UP!
seepage coming into my basement - at least I didn't get this, this horrid mess that dumped onto Colorado Springs on Monday. Ice Pellets {hail} clogged the storm drains - caused the rain water to back up - flooded the streets and then the extra weight of the ice pellets broke roofs around town as well.
Colorado Springs - Monday afternoon 8/29/2016 no, that's not water that's
2' or deeper of ice pellets that started coming down and just kept coming down
for over a couple of hours.
BTW - your 'FOULNESS' ...your immature post didn't go un-noticed but as your childish behavior is just further proof that you are as bad as those that you protect
You are never going to move off of that stump of stupidity behaving in that way!
GROW THE HELL UP!
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Have you thought about growing Rice in your cellar, or Mushrooms on floating trays?
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Man, I've been seeing a lot of mushrooms around my part of the globe lately! The rain always brings them -- there was one big as a saucer that I saw today, in a place I'd never seen one before.
Save Texas for the cacti is what I say. These mushroom usurpers can go back to Eddie's house.
Save Texas for the cacti is what I say. These mushroom usurpers can go back to Eddie's house.
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Ben Reilly wrote:Man, I've been seeing a lot of mushrooms around my part of the globe lately! The rain always brings them -- there was one big as a saucer that I saw today, in a place I'd never seen one before.
Save Texas for the cacti is what I say. These mushroom usurpers can go back to Eddie's house.
Listen, it's not my fault y'all don't know the benefits of a good 'shroom when you see one.
I would like to try some fried cactus though. Without the spikes.
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We are getting cooler...dropping down into the 70's F this week. Then in mid-September comes Indian Summer. The really hot days return, but only for a few weeks. We have that upper level layer keeping the lid on things.
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Weather = horrendous. Just drove back from Wales (well OH drove) and it was driving rain door to door.
Roll on that promised Indian Summer, it usually does get gorgeous as soon as the kids go back to school.
Roll on that promised Indian Summer, it usually does get gorgeous as soon as the kids go back to school.
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WOW, that's a stunning image you shared Quill - mother nature's own color palette in all her glory.
We only had to slight after shocks, that I could tell while out reorganizing my garage of chaos ...even had a nice young couple stop by and climb my step ladders to place all of those trim boards back up on the overhead hangers for me. Random Acts of Kindness - Paying It Forward, good people!
We only had to slight after shocks, that I could tell while out reorganizing my garage of chaos ...even had a nice young couple stop by and climb my step ladders to place all of those trim boards back up on the overhead hangers for me. Random Acts of Kindness - Paying It Forward, good people!
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4EVER2 wrote:While I'm dealing with an evening of bountiful rainfall and trying to stay ahead of the
seepage coming into my basement - at least I didn't get this, this horrid mess that dumped onto Colorado Springs on Monday. Ice Pellets {hail} clogged the storm drains - caused the rain water to back up - flooded the streets and then the extra weight of the ice pellets broke roofs around town as well.
Colorado Springs - Monday afternoon 8/29/2016 no, that's not water that's
2' or deeper of ice pellets that started coming down and just kept coming down
for over a couple of hours.
BTW - your 'FOULNESS' ...your immature post didn't go un-noticed but as your childish behavior is just further proof that you are as bad as those that you protect
You are never going to move off of that stump of stupidity behaving in that way!
GROW THE HELL UP!
mad as a box of frogs......(and paranoid)
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I mean...did anyone else think I meant that avice to be taken seriously, considering the "mock up" of the sort of warnings our US friends are likely to see on a regular basis
REALLY????
REALLY????
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Original Quill wrote:We are getting cooler...dropping down into the 70's F this week. Then in mid-September comes Indian Summer. The really hot days return, but only for a few weeks. We have that upper level layer keeping the lid on things.
That upper level layer...?
Are you referring to the high altitude white shit left by aeroplanes by any chance...!?
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Tommy Monk wrote:Original Quill wrote:We are getting cooler...dropping down into the 70's F this week. Then in mid-September comes Indian Summer. The really hot days return, but only for a few weeks. We have that upper level layer keeping the lid on things.
That upper level layer...?
Are you referring to the high altitude white shit left by aeroplanes by any chance...!?
Haha...there are no aircraft contrails over the SF Bay. And if there were, they would be pointing northeast, to the once-active Mather AFB, and not north-south. Today that kind of flying is verboten over heavily populated areas...anywhere in the world. The days are gone when B-52 G's were perpetually airborne, circling the globe with strategic weapons ready to drop on the USSR (who?). You are just too old, tommy.
Yep, that's an upper level weather layer, at high altitude, blown that way by the wind. As the scene recedes into the distance in a 2-dimensional photograph, the lateral clouds turn in our perspective, appearing linear rather than full.
This upper layer then socks in the marine layer, which you can see in the bottom of the picture, above the island, but below the foothills in the background.
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Contrails evaporate... chemtrails hang up there like seen in your picture...
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Tommy Monk wrote:Contrails evaporate... chemtrails hang up there like seen in your picture...
I haven't seen one in 20-years. It's a past era. No commercial airplane leaves such pollution nowadays, and only military planes on afterburner will do that today.
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Funny... I used to see only contrails over 20 years ago... they were short white looking trails from the back of high altitude jet aeroplanes that evaporated in a matter of seconds...
Now these days I see mostly chemtrails that plume out the back of aeroplanes and spread across the sky's leaving stripes and a milky white covering up there... and don't evaporate!!!
Now these days I see mostly chemtrails that plume out the back of aeroplanes and spread across the sky's leaving stripes and a milky white covering up there... and don't evaporate!!!
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Tommy Monk wrote:Funny... I used to see only contrails over 20 years ago... they were short white looking trails from the back of high altitude jet aeroplanes that evaporated in a matter of seconds...
Now these days I see mostly chemtrails that plume out the back of aeroplanes and spread across the sky's leaving stripes and a milky white covering up there... and don't evaporate!!!
Not me. I haven't seen any pollution coming out of aircraft in a couple of decades. It's illegal over here. The Environmental Protection Agency has cracked down on them just as much as automobiles. Same with ships.
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The chemtrails are visible in your earlier picture... you referred to them as the 'upper layer'...
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There are chemtrails all over England?!
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Contrails and Chemtrails: The IFAQ
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Jun-09-2010
Most of the traffic to this site comes via Google and other search engines. It’s interesting to look at what people typed in to that ended up here. Quite often it’s just a few words like “chemtrail aircraft pictures” or “contrails engine”, but sometimes it’s a question. I see them ask their questions and end up here, but I’m not sure if they find the right answer.
So I present the “Infrequently Asked Questions” (exactly as typed into Google). I’ll update this from time to time when I see a new question.
Why does a contrail vanish?
Contrails are made of ice crystals from water in the exhaust and the surrounding air. They vanish because the ice turns back into water vapor. If will vanish faster if the air is dry and/or relatively warm. They can stay for a long time though.
Contrails, which are ice particles vs chemtrails?
Some people say the longer lasting trails are “chemtrails”, but there’s no evidence to support this, as some trails have always lasted a long time.
How long lasting trails are created?
Exactly the same as the short trails. They just last longer because of the weather at that altitude (which is often unrelated to the weather on the ground). When it’s cold and humid at 30,000 feet, then contrails at 30,000 feet will last longer.
How long have chemtrails being going on for?
The chemtrail story was first told around 1997.
How planes create acid rain
Acid rain is caused mostly by ground based industrial pollution of ammonia, carbon, nitrogen and sulfur. Very little comes from planes. Planes could create acid rain by deliberately spraying large amount of sulfur to affect the climate, but there’s no evidence that anyone have ever done this. In fact the creation of acid rain is a very big reason why they will not.
Why don’t we see many contrails anymore?
The amount of air traffic has not changed much in the last 2-3 years. So if you’ve suddenly stopped seeing contrails then it’s probably because it’s summer, and the conditions for contrail formation don’t exist that frequently in summer. Particularly in places like southern California, which have hot dry summers. I’ve seen far fewer contrails now it’s June.
Why do military jets leave a contrails?
For the same reason commercial and private jets leave contrails: water in the exhaust freezes to create trails of ice clouds. Military jets might create different contrails depending on the circumstances, as they have different engines (particularly fighter jets).
Do all planes make chemtrails?
All planes can make contrails, but only if they fly high enough to encounter cold enough air. In very cold places like Alaska, even cars can make contrails. The trails that people suspect of being “chemtrails” are probably just contrails.
Can contrails stay in the air?
Yes. Contrails are physically almost identical to clouds, so they act like clouds. They are usually a bit denser than clouds, so can stay around longer if conditions are right.
What jets can you see contrails from?
Any jet flying through cold enough and moist enough air will produce contrails. In more marginal conditions then it depends on the “contrail factor” of the engine. If it’s warm or dry enough then no jets will be able to leave a contrail.
What is bill hr 2977 about?
It’s about the weaponization of space. It bans “space based” weapons, and list several, including “chemtrails” (which is pretty odd, as “chemtrails” are not space based, unless you consider flying in a passenger jet to be space travel). It was written by some UFO enthusiasts.
Is there barium in gasoline?
There are trace amounts of many metals, including barium, that found in crude oil and its products. Beyond this – not unless added via fuel additives, and those found on Google were old, and related to diesel. You might get some barium in the exhaust from barium additives in the engine lubricants, such as Barium Hydroxide Octahydrate.
Why would two planes fly next to each other?
The most likely explanation is that they just look like they are next to each other, but really one is a thousand feet or more above the other. However they might be planes on a photo shoot or military planes practicing maneuvers.
Do contrails cause climate change
Yes. Although the amount and nature of this is still uncertain. It’s also a different kind of climate change to CO2 emissions, because if we stopped flying then the contrail climate change would also stop immediately. If we stop emitting CO2, then it would still take decades for it to have an effect.
Black line in sky in front of plane?
That is a volumetric shadow. Only visible when the contrail is lined up with the sun relative to the observer, so the observer is inside the shadow.
Do contrails create pollution?
No. Contrails are just ice clouds made from the water in plane engine exhausts. However some people consider this to be visual pollution. Plane engine exhaust is pollution just like car and truck exhaust is, however a plane creates the same amount of pollution wether it leaves a contrail or not.
Why do regular planes leave a trail?
All planes leave trails if the conditions are right at the altitude they are flying. If you see one plane leaving a trail, and another not, then they are probably at slightly different altitudes. It only takes a few hundred feet.
Can a contrail form at any height?
Yes. However in most of the world the answer is no, as it’s too warm at the lower altitudes. Typically contrails form above 25,000 feet (five miles up), in temperatures of -40F or colder. In very cold places like Alaska they can form at ground level.
How long after chemtrails is it safe to go outside
There’s no real evidence that “chemtrails” are anything other than persistent contrails. However if an aerosol was being sprayed then remember that aerosols basically hang in the air, falling at 1 foot per second they would take at least eight hours to reach the ground, and by that time would have spread over an area of thousands of square miles, lingering in the air for days. So essentially the answer would be: never.
are the elite ptb still chemspraying the popualce of the world?
No. At least if they are then they are doing it without leaving any evidence, which would be rather impressive with the millions of people that would need to be involved in covering it up.
How can you tell the difference of a plane dumping fuel or leaving contrails?
Most planes dump fuel from the wingtips. It also usually happens at a lower altitude. The resultant plume is much hazier than a contrail, and evaporates quickly.
How long will it take the droplet to fall 2000 m if it goes 1 cm every second?
1 meter is 100 cm. So 2000 meters is 200,000 cm. At 1 cm per second it would take 200,000 seconds, which is 55 hours, or just over two days. Wolfram Alpha is useful for things like this.
Why was contrail forecasting important to the Air Force in the 1950s but not in the 1980s?
It was and still is important. The reason has always been because of stealth – a plane might dodge the radar, but if it leaves a long contrail then it’s hard to hide. Perhaps in the 1950s there was more of a focus on spy planes, and now they have either been largely replaced by satellites, or they have figured out how to avoid contrail producing regions of the atmosphere.
Can contrails blow accross the sky in a straight line?
Yes. Air moves as large circulating masses. If you look at a weather map, in any given 50 mile wide region the air is moving pretty much in the same direction. So a contrail will move like that. It will distort eventually, depending on atmospheric conditions.
Why can you hear some planes but not others?
Different sized planes can be at very different altitudes bu look the same. A plane at 30,000 feet that is twice the size of one at 15,000 feet will look like it’s the same, but will be further away, so quieter. But a more dramatic difference is between planes that are climbing at 90% of full power, and those that are descending, at maybe 5% of full power. The descending plane will be vastly quieter than the climbing plane. This also applies to planes at cruising altitude when they make relatively small altitude adjustments.
Do people actually believe in chemtrails?
Some people are probably trolling, or promoting the theory for some reason like selling their books or medical products. However many people do seem to genuinely believe that the theory is supported by the evidence. I think this site shows that it is not. The believers tend to also believe a varied range of other conspiracy theories.
Why do orbs seem to follow contrails?
“Orbs” are things in the sky that appear round from a great distance, or in a photo or video (often they are individual bokeh highlights). They are things like plastic bags, balloons, planes, birds, clouds, or even specks of dust in a bright light. They don’t actually follow contrails, it’s just that you were looking at the contrail, and you saw orbs. They are everywhere in the sky if you look long enough.
Who came up with the theory of chemtrails?
The theory grew online around 1997 out of concerns regarding pollution from jet fuel additives. It’s not clear if one person started it, but some of the early names mentioned are Larry Wayne Harris, Richard Finke, John Grace, and Bill Brumbaugh. It has been greatly propmted by William Thomas, Art Bell and Jeff Rense.
Is chemtrails responsible for acid rain?
If planes were spraying something like sulphur, then that would create acid rain. But there’s no evidence that they are. The human causes of acid rain are things like power stations, factories and transportation (including normal jet exhaust)
Do commercial airlines seed clouds on the west coast
Not in the usual sense of making low rain clouds rain more. But contrails are clouds, and the ones that persist are essentially”seeded” by the engine exhaust. But contrails are ice clouds, and don’t produce rain. They do sometimes make the sky overcast.
Normal atmospheric barium levels?
Via the EPA: The primary source of barium in the atmosphere is industrial emissions. Barium concentrations ranging from 0.0002 ug/m3 to 0.028 ug/m3 (mean of 0.012 ug/m3) have been detected in urban areas of North America (ATSDR, 1992). Barium is naturally occurring in most surface waters and in public drinking water supplies. Barium content in U.S. drinking water supplies ranges from 1 to 20 ug/L; in some areas barium concentrations as high as 10,000 ug/L have been detected (WHO, 1990). Barium is ubiquitous in soils, with concentration ranging from 15 to 3000 ppm.
Of course you’ve got to watch your units there. Also note that the measurement of barium in the atmosphere is in micrograms per cubic meter OF AIR. The concentration of barium in airborne dust is an entirely different measurement, which is where Arizona Skywatch went so badly wrong.
How long does it take an airplane to reach 30,000 ft
At an average climb rate of 1800 feet/minute, it would take about 16 minutes. But it can vary a lot based on the plane, the load, and what the pilot wants. An SR-71 could do it in less than three minutes if pushed. Larger commercial jets can take up to 30 minutes or more. Not all planes even go up to 30,000 feet, especially for short flights.
Does NASA claim that contrails cannot form in the stratosphere
No. Nasa says:
Contrails usually form in the upper portion of the troposphere and in the lower stratosphere where jet aircraft normally fly, generally between about 8 and 12 km altitude (~26,000 to 39,000 feet). They can also form closer to the ground when the air is very cold and has enough moisture.
http://contrailscience.com/contrails-and-chemtrails-the-ifaq/
contrails
Jun-09-2010
Most of the traffic to this site comes via Google and other search engines. It’s interesting to look at what people typed in to that ended up here. Quite often it’s just a few words like “chemtrail aircraft pictures” or “contrails engine”, but sometimes it’s a question. I see them ask their questions and end up here, but I’m not sure if they find the right answer.
So I present the “Infrequently Asked Questions” (exactly as typed into Google). I’ll update this from time to time when I see a new question.
Why does a contrail vanish?
Contrails are made of ice crystals from water in the exhaust and the surrounding air. They vanish because the ice turns back into water vapor. If will vanish faster if the air is dry and/or relatively warm. They can stay for a long time though.
Contrails, which are ice particles vs chemtrails?
Some people say the longer lasting trails are “chemtrails”, but there’s no evidence to support this, as some trails have always lasted a long time.
How long lasting trails are created?
Exactly the same as the short trails. They just last longer because of the weather at that altitude (which is often unrelated to the weather on the ground). When it’s cold and humid at 30,000 feet, then contrails at 30,000 feet will last longer.
How long have chemtrails being going on for?
The chemtrail story was first told around 1997.
How planes create acid rain
Acid rain is caused mostly by ground based industrial pollution of ammonia, carbon, nitrogen and sulfur. Very little comes from planes. Planes could create acid rain by deliberately spraying large amount of sulfur to affect the climate, but there’s no evidence that anyone have ever done this. In fact the creation of acid rain is a very big reason why they will not.
Why don’t we see many contrails anymore?
The amount of air traffic has not changed much in the last 2-3 years. So if you’ve suddenly stopped seeing contrails then it’s probably because it’s summer, and the conditions for contrail formation don’t exist that frequently in summer. Particularly in places like southern California, which have hot dry summers. I’ve seen far fewer contrails now it’s June.
Why do military jets leave a contrails?
For the same reason commercial and private jets leave contrails: water in the exhaust freezes to create trails of ice clouds. Military jets might create different contrails depending on the circumstances, as they have different engines (particularly fighter jets).
Do all planes make chemtrails?
All planes can make contrails, but only if they fly high enough to encounter cold enough air. In very cold places like Alaska, even cars can make contrails. The trails that people suspect of being “chemtrails” are probably just contrails.
Can contrails stay in the air?
Yes. Contrails are physically almost identical to clouds, so they act like clouds. They are usually a bit denser than clouds, so can stay around longer if conditions are right.
What jets can you see contrails from?
Any jet flying through cold enough and moist enough air will produce contrails. In more marginal conditions then it depends on the “contrail factor” of the engine. If it’s warm or dry enough then no jets will be able to leave a contrail.
What is bill hr 2977 about?
It’s about the weaponization of space. It bans “space based” weapons, and list several, including “chemtrails” (which is pretty odd, as “chemtrails” are not space based, unless you consider flying in a passenger jet to be space travel). It was written by some UFO enthusiasts.
Is there barium in gasoline?
There are trace amounts of many metals, including barium, that found in crude oil and its products. Beyond this – not unless added via fuel additives, and those found on Google were old, and related to diesel. You might get some barium in the exhaust from barium additives in the engine lubricants, such as Barium Hydroxide Octahydrate.
Why would two planes fly next to each other?
The most likely explanation is that they just look like they are next to each other, but really one is a thousand feet or more above the other. However they might be planes on a photo shoot or military planes practicing maneuvers.
Do contrails cause climate change
Yes. Although the amount and nature of this is still uncertain. It’s also a different kind of climate change to CO2 emissions, because if we stopped flying then the contrail climate change would also stop immediately. If we stop emitting CO2, then it would still take decades for it to have an effect.
Black line in sky in front of plane?
That is a volumetric shadow. Only visible when the contrail is lined up with the sun relative to the observer, so the observer is inside the shadow.
Do contrails create pollution?
No. Contrails are just ice clouds made from the water in plane engine exhausts. However some people consider this to be visual pollution. Plane engine exhaust is pollution just like car and truck exhaust is, however a plane creates the same amount of pollution wether it leaves a contrail or not.
Why do regular planes leave a trail?
All planes leave trails if the conditions are right at the altitude they are flying. If you see one plane leaving a trail, and another not, then they are probably at slightly different altitudes. It only takes a few hundred feet.
Can a contrail form at any height?
Yes. However in most of the world the answer is no, as it’s too warm at the lower altitudes. Typically contrails form above 25,000 feet (five miles up), in temperatures of -40F or colder. In very cold places like Alaska they can form at ground level.
How long after chemtrails is it safe to go outside
There’s no real evidence that “chemtrails” are anything other than persistent contrails. However if an aerosol was being sprayed then remember that aerosols basically hang in the air, falling at 1 foot per second they would take at least eight hours to reach the ground, and by that time would have spread over an area of thousands of square miles, lingering in the air for days. So essentially the answer would be: never.
are the elite ptb still chemspraying the popualce of the world?
No. At least if they are then they are doing it without leaving any evidence, which would be rather impressive with the millions of people that would need to be involved in covering it up.
How can you tell the difference of a plane dumping fuel or leaving contrails?
Most planes dump fuel from the wingtips. It also usually happens at a lower altitude. The resultant plume is much hazier than a contrail, and evaporates quickly.
How long will it take the droplet to fall 2000 m if it goes 1 cm every second?
1 meter is 100 cm. So 2000 meters is 200,000 cm. At 1 cm per second it would take 200,000 seconds, which is 55 hours, or just over two days. Wolfram Alpha is useful for things like this.
Why was contrail forecasting important to the Air Force in the 1950s but not in the 1980s?
It was and still is important. The reason has always been because of stealth – a plane might dodge the radar, but if it leaves a long contrail then it’s hard to hide. Perhaps in the 1950s there was more of a focus on spy planes, and now they have either been largely replaced by satellites, or they have figured out how to avoid contrail producing regions of the atmosphere.
Can contrails blow accross the sky in a straight line?
Yes. Air moves as large circulating masses. If you look at a weather map, in any given 50 mile wide region the air is moving pretty much in the same direction. So a contrail will move like that. It will distort eventually, depending on atmospheric conditions.
Why can you hear some planes but not others?
Different sized planes can be at very different altitudes bu look the same. A plane at 30,000 feet that is twice the size of one at 15,000 feet will look like it’s the same, but will be further away, so quieter. But a more dramatic difference is between planes that are climbing at 90% of full power, and those that are descending, at maybe 5% of full power. The descending plane will be vastly quieter than the climbing plane. This also applies to planes at cruising altitude when they make relatively small altitude adjustments.
Do people actually believe in chemtrails?
Some people are probably trolling, or promoting the theory for some reason like selling their books or medical products. However many people do seem to genuinely believe that the theory is supported by the evidence. I think this site shows that it is not. The believers tend to also believe a varied range of other conspiracy theories.
Why do orbs seem to follow contrails?
“Orbs” are things in the sky that appear round from a great distance, or in a photo or video (often they are individual bokeh highlights). They are things like plastic bags, balloons, planes, birds, clouds, or even specks of dust in a bright light. They don’t actually follow contrails, it’s just that you were looking at the contrail, and you saw orbs. They are everywhere in the sky if you look long enough.
Who came up with the theory of chemtrails?
The theory grew online around 1997 out of concerns regarding pollution from jet fuel additives. It’s not clear if one person started it, but some of the early names mentioned are Larry Wayne Harris, Richard Finke, John Grace, and Bill Brumbaugh. It has been greatly propmted by William Thomas, Art Bell and Jeff Rense.
Is chemtrails responsible for acid rain?
If planes were spraying something like sulphur, then that would create acid rain. But there’s no evidence that they are. The human causes of acid rain are things like power stations, factories and transportation (including normal jet exhaust)
Do commercial airlines seed clouds on the west coast
Not in the usual sense of making low rain clouds rain more. But contrails are clouds, and the ones that persist are essentially”seeded” by the engine exhaust. But contrails are ice clouds, and don’t produce rain. They do sometimes make the sky overcast.
Normal atmospheric barium levels?
Via the EPA: The primary source of barium in the atmosphere is industrial emissions. Barium concentrations ranging from 0.0002 ug/m3 to 0.028 ug/m3 (mean of 0.012 ug/m3) have been detected in urban areas of North America (ATSDR, 1992). Barium is naturally occurring in most surface waters and in public drinking water supplies. Barium content in U.S. drinking water supplies ranges from 1 to 20 ug/L; in some areas barium concentrations as high as 10,000 ug/L have been detected (WHO, 1990). Barium is ubiquitous in soils, with concentration ranging from 15 to 3000 ppm.
Of course you’ve got to watch your units there. Also note that the measurement of barium in the atmosphere is in micrograms per cubic meter OF AIR. The concentration of barium in airborne dust is an entirely different measurement, which is where Arizona Skywatch went so badly wrong.
How long does it take an airplane to reach 30,000 ft
At an average climb rate of 1800 feet/minute, it would take about 16 minutes. But it can vary a lot based on the plane, the load, and what the pilot wants. An SR-71 could do it in less than three minutes if pushed. Larger commercial jets can take up to 30 minutes or more. Not all planes even go up to 30,000 feet, especially for short flights.
Does NASA claim that contrails cannot form in the stratosphere
No. Nasa says:
Contrails usually form in the upper portion of the troposphere and in the lower stratosphere where jet aircraft normally fly, generally between about 8 and 12 km altitude (~26,000 to 39,000 feet). They can also form closer to the ground when the air is very cold and has enough moisture.
http://contrailscience.com/contrails-and-chemtrails-the-ifaq/
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The local ASPCA & other animal rescue organizations have been running **ALERTS** about 'bring your pet(s) into the house - do not leave any cat or dog out in this extreme weather - they aren't accustomed to Arctic Blasts like Alaskan breed dogs are!'Greenwood County KS Emergency Management
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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WICHITA KS
1123 PM CST SAT DEC 17 2016
...A WIND CHILL ADVISORY IS NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 AM CST...
SUNDAY...
RUSSELL-LINCOLN-BARTON-ELLSWORTH-SALINE-RICE-MCPHERSON-MARION-
CHASE-RENO-HARVEY-BUTLER-GREENWOOD-WOODSON-ALLEN-KINGMAN-SEDGWICK-HARPER-SUMNER-COWLEY-ELK-WILSON-NEOSHO-CHAUTAUQUA-MONTGOMERY-LABETTE- 11:23 PM CST SAT DEC 17 2016
...WIND CHILL ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 AM CST SUNDAY...
...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS CANCELLED...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WICHITA HAS ISSUED A WIND CHILL
ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 AM CST SUNDAY. * WIND CHILL VALUES...FROM 13 BELOW TO 27 BELOW ZERO THROUGH
SUNDAY MORNING WITH THE MOST DANGEROUS WIND CHILLS IN CENTRAL KANSAS.
* MAIN IMPACTS...DANGEROUS WIND CHILLS ARE IMMINENT THROUGH LATE
SUNDAY MORNING. ROADS AND HIGHWAYS REMAIN SLICK. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS ...A WIND CHILL ADVISORY MEANS THAT BITTERLY COLD AIR AND WINDS WILL COMBINE TO PRODUCE DANGEROUS WIND CHILLS. FROST BITE AND HYPOTHERMIA WILL RESULT IF PRECAUTIONS ARE NOT TAKEN. IF YOU MUST VENTURE OUTDOORS ...DRESS IN LAYERS. BE SURE YOUR HEAD ...HANDS AND FEET ARE WELL PROTECTED! WATCH YOUR PETS!
And still the local Animal Control officer was getting inundated with phones calls about stupid humans leaving their dogs outside - inadequate shelter - frozen water ...so many stupid humans allowed to own pets.
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Well, the standard joke for weather around here is: 'if you don't like it just wait around for about 10 minutes and it will change!'
Christmas day - woke to 35º heavy fog
High wind advisory with chances of rain & thunder storms & possible tornadoes.
Between noon and 4 pm the weather had changed dramatically and the winds were really blowing strong; not just in gusts - it was a steady wind from the south west. 60mph strong and the low laying clouds started rolling in = 65º and humid.
The Chiefs gave the Broncos a proper Ass-Whoop'n!
KS and Mother Nature, just never know what to what is going to blow in. This week is 'supposed' to be and in the mid 40's.
Christmas day - woke to 35º heavy fog
High wind advisory with chances of rain & thunder storms & possible tornadoes.
Between noon and 4 pm the weather had changed dramatically and the winds were really blowing strong; not just in gusts - it was a steady wind from the south west. 60mph strong and the low laying clouds started rolling in = 65º and humid.
The KC Chiefs were to play the Denver Bronco's ...game time temperature was 51º ...last Sunday when the Chiefs played the Ravens the field temp. was -1º and wind chills -15º Brrrrr(WIBW) -- A Christmas Day tornado may have briefly touched down in south Kansas.
The National Weather Service says the possible twister destroyed a cattle building Sunday morning in rural Kiowa County.
According to the NWS, radar strongly suggested a brief tornado touched down around six miles west of Bucklin around 10:35 a.m.
They are still trying to confirm if it was a tornado.
http://www.wibw.com/content/news/Possible-Christmas-Day-tornado-destroys-cattle-building-in-Kiowa-County-408323245.html
The Chiefs gave the Broncos a proper Ass-Whoop'n!
KS and Mother Nature, just never know what to what is going to blow in. This week is 'supposed' to be and in the mid 40's.
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The Raiders won again, but lost their quarterback fee-nom, Derick Carr (broken leg). So, there's goes our season.
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Original Quill wrote:The Raiders won again, but lost their quarterback fee-nom, Derick Carr (broken leg). So, there's goes our season.
Oh, I was so heartbroken; pissed off numerous FB friends when I was rooting for my Raiders to beat the Chiefs here at home ...but 'hey - it's all game!'
I did hear some radio show out of KC talking about that hit he took and how there ought to be 'RULES' for those type of hits! I'm thinking that they're going to far with this 'protect the quarterback' issue now!
What cha think? Not enough or need more bubble wrap?
One cray-cray-cray Broncos fan decided to take the field > > >
And the Chiefs infield Security Staff 'Bull Dogged' his sorry arse; took him downnnnn! That guy that is video taping it ...Geeze his yell - LMAO
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