Jo Cox death: Suspect linked to far-right group that has campaigned against the EU

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The link between Thomas Mair and the Springbok Club goes back ten years



The man arrested over the killing of Labour MP Jo Cox is believed to have had long-term links with a hard-right group based in London which had been campaigning for many years for Britain to leave the European Union.

Thomas Mair was named as a supporter in an online publication of the Springbok Club, an organisation which has defended the white supremacist apartheid regime in South Africa.

Witnesses to the fatal attack on Ms Cox say they heard Mair shout “Britain First” as the MP was shot and then stabbed. The organisation Britain First, which was founded by former members of the British National Party, has denied that Mair was associated with it and say they condemn the killing.
The link between Mair and the Springbok Club goes back ten years when its online magazine, the Springbok Cyber Newsletter, was inquiring about the whereabouts of “Thomas Mair, from Batley in Yorkshire [who] was one of the earliest subscribers and supporters of “S.A. Patriot” who has moved from his address in the Fieldhead Estate district of the town.”

The leading article for June 2016 Springbok Cyber Newsletter, which describes itself on its website as being pro-free market capitalism and patriotism and anti-political correctness, was, however, devoted to Britain and the referendum. It started: “On Thursday, 23rd June 2016 all British voters will have the opportunity to vote on the future of their country. They can vote either to remain entrapped in the artificial and retrograde European Union, or to regain their sovereign independence....”

The article ends by declaring: “But we should not only be concentrating at the negative aspects of remaining in the EU. Our campaign should be primarily positive and optimistic for a future outside the EU. The motto of the Patriotic Forum (an umbrella grouping of patriotic organisations which the Springbok Club is part of) is “Out of Europe and into the World”. There is a golden future waiting for Britain out there once the country returns to its traditional vision of looking towards the Open Seas and its ethnic brothers and sisters in the Commonwealth around the globe. The days ahead will inspire us!”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jo-cox-dead-thomas-mair-suspect-south-africa-apartheid-a7086426.html


And that is just the beginning, there is so much more coming out about him.

Still interesting though.

eddie wrote:Still interesting though.

I remember very well a shot of Michael Jackson printed in the Mail. He was 'wearing' women's high heels. Sadly, the person who manipulated the photo had used two left feet. This didn't stop the headlines screaming about Jacko being a cross dresser and everyone fell for it hook, line and sinker. It made news and it made headlines.

I would argue that most of what you describe are compression and jpeg artefacts HT....

Jpegs are foul things, especially when you try to compress them...info goes missing, pixels blurr into one another

There are dozens of examples of newspapers posting this shit.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/paris-attacks-canadian-sikh-selfie-photoshop-1.3320327

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:Still interesting though.

I remember very well a shot of Michael Jackson printed in the Mail.    He was 'wearing' women's high heels.   Sadly, the person who manipulated the photo had used two left feet.    This didn't stop the headlines screaming  about Jacko being a cross dresser and everyone fell for it hook, line and sinker.     It made news and it made headlines.

People always take a story at face value - if the main news media, if their favourite newspapers run with it, if the TV says it....they swallow it.

Mostly these things pass us by - but kudos for Tommy for looking in this instance.

It's food for though anyway.

http://www.hangthebankers.com/newspaper-uses-photoshop-to-make-syria-look-even-worse-somehow/

Lord Foul wrote:I would argue that most of what you describe are compression and jpeg artefacts HT....

Jpegs are foul things, especially when you try to compress them...info goes missing, pixels blurr into one another

True.   But you're overlooking my comments about the ghosting and light anomalies both signs that a photo has been manipulated.    

Here's a noise analysis of the image.   You'll see that the logo on the teeshirt and the badge area on the jacket are very white.  This is often  a sign of altered pixels.  Note that the background pillars on the shop are also white but they show up as black.  This is because they have not been altered .   If an image has been saved multiple times at different quality settings it's a sign that the image has likely been manipulated.



Here's another shot showing this from an obviously altered image.

HT I am going to send you a picture by pm and I would like your opnion please.

Conspiracies, conspiracies, everywhere a conspiracy  !!!

Sshhh......
Just personally..

I reckon the CIA and MI6 organised a group of Irish Travellers to arrange this hit..
Shades of JFK, Marilyn Monroe, the Mafia, and all that !        

Whatever wolf. You stay inside your box where you KNOW everything to be true, becasue you were told so.

I will question something, if the need arises.

The picture is a photoshop fake!!!

Awaiting sassy and Lord fool to come on here, admit the picture is a dodgy photoshop fake and apologise ...

Check the photo of Tommy Mair being arrested - he has no tattoos.

eddie wrote:Sooooo everyone is just going to dismiss HT's post and Veya's (saying that he cannot find another online pic of it - which of course can be disputed if we find another)


So back to HT; she says she can see it's been tampered with.
Why would that be?

Well considering the source who posted this and has record for doing the same with countless Pallywood creations on here, its of no surprise at all, because its simply the motivation again behind the reasoning. The victim is irrlevant in this case, all that is relevant is to again divert, deflect and cover up from the reality of what terrorism we are facing today. Its appaling this woman was robber of her life and if true he was Far Right and this was his motivation, i condemn it freely as again it is hate that is driving such a murder. This is where such hate leads to, which again can be found more so in religion, but the left will try to defend if religious.

Christie wrote:Check the photo of Tommy Mair being arrested - he has no tattoos.

A more clearer image

Thank you Christie... and he appears to be bleeding in that photo too...

Tommy Monk wrote:Awaiting sassy and Lord fool to come on here, admit the picture is a dodgy photoshop fake and apologise ...

I think you do deserve an apology. Sometimes, we do have really question things. The fact that this photo was manipulated in an effort to cause more of a furore is disgusting.

Was the doctored pic in the mainstream papers or just on the internet?

We will have to wait for sassy to say whether it was from local or national labour hq office...

Syl wrote:Was the doctored pic in the mainstream papers or just on the internet?

I have no idea but when I passed it through an image metadata tool is came up with this as the origin of the photo time and date.

Profile Date Time 2012:01:25 03:41:57
4 years, 4 months, 25 days, 4 hours, 6 minutes, 59 seconds ago

It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

sassy wrote:It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

It's just my opinion. But believe what you like. How come if it's him, it's not all over the papers?

I was going off the pic of him lay on the floor after the shooting. No tattoos are visible on his arms.

sassy wrote:It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

Of course the background is sharp. That's not been altered.

sassy wrote:It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

Sassy, there is no photos of him in court. Only drawings, of which he has long sleeves covering his arms.

sassy wrote:It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

If that is true, then there should at leats be a snapshot of the Britains First page, with this on, not just the picture.
When people capture things that have been deleted, they normally have the whole page captured.
So do they have this?

Christie wrote:Check the photo of Tommy Mair being arrested - he has no tattoos.

Bump

sassy wrote:It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

Sassy did he have the tattoos removed then?? Becasue they're gone now - they are not there when he was arrested.

So either your photo was a fake or the "arrested" pic was a fake..?

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Conspiracies, conspiracies, everywhere a conspiracy  !!!

Sshhh......
Just personally..

I reckon the CIA and MI6 organised a group of Irish Travellers to arrange this hit..
Shades of JFK, Marilyn Monroe, the Mafia, and all that !        

Much 'A DO ABOUT NUTT'N' and the hysteria just keeps growing with each 'what if / maybe's and absolutes'! 

But for those that really want to chase the 'dogs tail' {tommykins} if this utter-wing nut wanted to become a member of a really bad organization and in his façade he needed to portray his persona as a #1 Bad Ass DUDE then there are a number of places that he could obtain those really wonderful 'FAKE TATOOS' that won't just wipe off >>>
  

And since this cretin was bright enough to utilize the internet to STFW and find the source for his own 'make a hand gun' ...it would be highly likely that he would/could do the same for a few 'bad assed-tough guy tattoos' and then use the proper removal process for his 'regular fellow disguise' later  
Special effects for those movie productions that need a tatoo'ed bad ass or for those highly wimpy that just can't stand the pain of being injected by the ink machine to get the REAL THING!

But carry on with all of the hysteria about those images and who's got the better this is FAKED and that is REAL ...it's all quite entertaining

Yea and the only "expert" among us has said that the photo was probably photoshopped and gave all the evidence of that and yet....

It's totally laughable.

Meanwhile.....

eddie wrote:
Whatever wolf. You stay inside your box where you KNOW everything to be true, becasue you were told so.

................................

YOU are an outright liar, as well as an idiot, eddie...

Nowhere did I say that I know, nor believed, anything here..
Stop trying to put words in other people's mouths or claiming to know what they think.

You are the fool telling Tommy how great and wonderful he is, this week.
You gullible little fool..

Yeah yeah.

We all know you take any opportunity to have a go at someone who is just, to all intents and purposes, a fellow poster.

Get over it.

Perhaps he's right on this thread and you're all wrong.

There's not one shred of proof that this guy was anything but a mentally ill man.
Who knows who or what, made him do it?

One thing's for sure; the photo sassy put up isn't real. And not one person has the generousity of spirt or the sportsmanship to say "know what? You might be right Tommy.... This needs investigating further"

Know why no one says that? Cos you're all fucking kids.
Big babies with big grudges.

This forum is getting seriously boring.

And I'm not kidding.

I read other forums and people are just so much more grown up.

I think there was a bit more than "not a shred of evidence " that Tait was a rw nut job.
His home was filled with far rw and Nazi paraphernalia.

sassy wrote:It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

We don't have photographers in court?

sassy wrote:Here is Thomas Mair, described by the media as the 'quiet', 'timid' and 'lonely gardener’, giving a Nazi salute.

So who faked this picture and why?

sassy wrote:It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

More lies and waffle...


You just don't know when to stop do you sassquatch...!?

And where did YOU get the pic from sassy?


Where's your link...!?


It was only a couple of days ago that you were complaining at me for not putting a link to something...



And HT... did you have a look at the other pic sassy put up allegedly of mair holding up the BF banner...?

Handy Andy wrote:I think there was a bit more than "not a shred of evidence " that Tait  was a rw nut job.
His home  was filled with far rw and Nazi paraphernalia.

Was it? I don't know HA, they seem to lie about lost of things and no neighbours seemed to think this man was anything but quiet.

Do you think he spent £430 on books about homemade weapons?
A lot of money for a man who didn't work.

Miffs2 wrote:

sassy wrote:It isn't doctored, for one thing the background behind the arm is sharp a nd perfect, and it was taken from the Britain first site before they removed it

The photos of him in court also show his tattoos. Just because ht says something doesn't make it right.

We don't have photographers in court?

I was going to ask that - do they take photos in court?
I wouldn't know.

Eddie... the alleged books/magazines were supposedly between 1999-2003...


And no info about any other content...


He could have bought a gun for the money if he wanted one...

eddie wrote:

Miffs2 wrote:
We don't have photographers in court?

I was going to ask that - do they take photos in court?
I wouldn't know.

No they don't. But they have artists who draw them in court.

Tommy Monk wrote:Eddie... the alleged books/magazines were supposedly between 1999-2003...


And no info about any other content...


He could have bought a gun for the money if he wanted one...

p

Well yes he could have bought one but I dont know how severe his mental problems were and if that included social anxiety in which case, he'd not have known where to buy one?
It all,sounds rubbish to me.

Handy Andy wrote:I think there was a bit more than "not a shred of evidence " that Tait  was a rw nut job.
His home  was filled with far rw and Nazi paraphernalia.

Psychos seem to have  a penchant for this kind of thing.  Ian Brady was the same.    It no doubt makes them feel all edgy and dangerous, and then they go act out the fantasy.   It's not really relevant whether or not he was shouting Britain First.    People are reacting as though all Leave supporters are linked to this kind of organisation, which is just downright stupid.

Quite right HT... just as in the info wars link I posted... the media will try to use this as against leave vote.


And eddie... in a rural community like that there are plenty of shotguns about...

Tommy Monk wrote:And where did YOU get the pic from sassy?
Where's your link...!?

It was only a couple of days ago that you were complaining at me for not putting a link to something...
And HT... did you have a look at the other pic sassy put up allegedly of mair holding up the BF banner...?

You absolutely don't know shit from shine-ola do you; you can't figure out how to click on an image and scroll down to the word 'property' and click on that for the http:// 

Sweet Jesus ...   
Plagiarizing someone's thought's/words/published works is not the same thing as an image that from a publication/Bing/Google/STFW sight or you'd see those LINKS every where ...but 'DUH' they're hidden in the http://  command line. 
But keep   super sleuth ...I'm sure you'll find something to get covered in muck about!

Yea we will keep asking questions 4ever. Why wouldn't we???

eddie wrote:Yea we will keep asking questions 4ever. Why wouldn't we???

You need a education on where & how to find a image URL/property identifier too

Guess, the SUPER SLEUTH CLUB needs a basic computer 101 class before we get into the nitty-gritty, real detective field work ...Tommykins will be spending all of his time spinning around in his office chair getting dizzy

Hahahaha I take no responsibility for Tommys IT skills

4EVER2 wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Conspiracies, conspiracies, everywhere a conspiracy  !!!

Sshhh......
Just personally..

I reckon the CIA and MI6 organised a group of Irish Travellers to arrange this hit..
Shades of JFK, Marilyn Monroe, the Mafia, and all that !        

Much 'A DO ABOUT NUTT'N' and the hysteria just keeps growing with each 'what if / maybe's and absolutes'! 

But for those that really want to chase the 'dogs tail' {tommykins} if this utter-wing nut wanted to become a member of a really bad organization and in his façade he needed to portray his persona as a #1 Bad Ass DUDE then there are a number of places that he could obtain those really wonderful 'FAKE TATOOS' that won't just wipe off >>>
  

And since this cretin was bright enough to utilize the internet to STFW and find the source for his own 'make a hand gun' ...it would be highly likely that he would/could do the same for a few 'bad assed-tough guy tattoos' and then use the proper removal process for his 'regular fellow disguise' later  
Special effects for those movie productions that need a tatoo'ed bad ass or for those highly wimpy that just can't stand the pain of being injected by the ink machine to get the REAL THING!

But carry on with all of the hysteria about those images and who's got the better this is FAKED and that is REAL ...it's all quite entertaining

To be fair, it seems that HT knows her stuff regarding doctoring of photos/images and Sassy should just accept she is wrong on this occasion.