Gay Marriage declared legal across the USA!

Raggamuffin wrote:

mentor wrote:

so as predicted you missed the point

1)you are easily distracted because you are a classic "victim" always looking for something to attach your victimhood to......
2)the ultimate logic of the above is indeed beyond you....

and...you defend HF by staying silent when he posts wrongful rubbish...therfore you "sympathise" with him  just like all those Muslims, who dont stand up and be counted...

logic little girl...logic......put whatever lies between your pigtails to work.....

I don't take much notice of sexist pigs like you - you're lucky you got a reply at all.

Raggamuffin wrote:

mentor wrote:

so as predicted you missed the point

1)you are easily distracted because you are a classic "victim" always looking for something to attach your victimhood to......
2)the ultimate logic of the above is indeed beyond you....

and...you defend HF by staying silent when he posts wrongful rubbish...therfore you "sympathise" with him  just like all those Muslims, who dont stand up and be counted...

logic little girl...logic......put whatever lies between your pigtails to work.....

I don't take much notice of sexist pigs like you - you're lucky you got a reply at all.

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't take much notice of sexist pigs like you - you're lucky you got a reply at all.

ignore him raggs, vic has been wearing dresses so long he forgets who he is talking too...

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't take much notice of sexist pigs like you - you're lucky you got a reply at all.

ignore him raggs, vic has been wearing dresses so long he forgets who he is talking too...

mentor wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

ignore him raggs, vic has been wearing dresses so long he forgets who he is talking too...

isnt it time you found some new material HF...your act is getting a bit worn round the edges of late....

mentor wrote:well "intelligent poster" is definitely NOT something that YOU will ever be accused of.....nor a prize you are likely to win....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't take much notice of sexist pigs like you - you're lucky you got a reply at all.

ignore him raggs, vic has been wearing dresses so long he forgets who he is talking too...

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

mentor wrote:well "intelligent poster" is definitely NOT something that YOU will ever be accused of.....nor a prize you are likely to win....

I take joy from knowing I am my own person, with my own opinion, happy in my own skin, with my own straight life, not having to let my sexuality define me because I am happy to be me!!!

clearly not since you choose to attempt to dictate to others how they should live their lives, even when that life style has NO effect upon you or yours.
Now, not withstanding the fact i choose to chllenge you for this, you will note that I soley keep my dislike of your ideas to the point where you try to oobtain that YOUR rights are greater than someone elses....How many times do I have to repeat that you are quite free to hold to your belief (even if i DO consider you wrong (as in a purely philosophical sense))
up to the point YOUR rights erode the lawful rights of others???

If as you say, you are so happy with your lot....why do you choose to stamp on others enjoyment of something that is the right of all free thinking people? and moreover choose to do so with disingenious and hyperbolic nonsense....



wonder why you need to try so hard to impress people and attack women verbally perhaps you are trying to prove something you lack.....

wonder if you are too dumb to see the iron in that...oh wait...you also missed the point of my post to ragga...thats telling....

I dont need to "impress people....since 90% of folks on here are merely pixels on a screen....
besides which I dont need "other peoples approbation....I KNOW, without shadow of doubt that, specialities apart, i know more about a greater number of subjects than any 3 of you put together....

Add to that an intellect the size of a major planet and an ego bigger than the known universe and clearly I am absolutely beyond your scope.....

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

ignore him raggs, vic has been wearing dresses so long he forgets who he is talking too...

mentor wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

blimey...the imaginary other half has turned up.....

HF remembered to dual box at last.....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol I do not and cannot dictate to anyone how to live their lives, in life you can only advise, people live how they want to live that is fine with me... but they need to realise their are always consequences with choices and I feel i would be amiss if i did not make people aware of that fact...

yes but...here we go again...what consequences? divine wrath perhaps?

and then we start arguing about what is true or not....

and then we are both going to dig a hole and throw bricks at one another...........................

and isnt that "nosey old woman syndrome"?

mentor wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol I do not and cannot dictate to anyone how to live their lives, in life you can only advise, people live how they want to live that is fine with me... but they need to realise their are always consequences with choices and I feel i would be amiss if i did not make people aware of that fact...

yes but...here we go again...what consequences? divine wrath perhaps?

and then we start arguing about what is true or not....

and then we are both going to dig a hole and throw bricks at one another...........................

mentor wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

blimey...the imaginary other half has turned up.....

HF remembered to dual box at last.....

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

mentor wrote:

blimey...the imaginary other half has turned up.....

HF remembered to dual box at last.....

I think that's old now vic you used to play that game on ado . Makes no odds to us if you think we are the same person .

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

mentor wrote:

you really need to post after the quote box or it gets really messy about who said what....

mentor wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:


you really need to post after the quote box or it gets really messy about who said what....

yup...indeed iI do...but i did colour it

so.....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

mentor wrote:

yup...indeed iI do...but i did colour it

so.....

it's still far easier to follow if you use the correct method...

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:not necessarily divine wrath but certainly judgement as far as I believe but we have to consider the long term affects of the growth of abnormal and unnatural relationships...

end of the species is one..

mentor wrote:well then Vod...do the unimaginable...unplug the lead...think for yourself....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:if the levels are so low why even consider it at all just stamp it out for the nuisance it is and let people get on with normal lives...
why waste valuable tax payers time and money on something that affects such a tiny minority, such a tiny minority which points out it is unnatural and abnormal..

mentor wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:if the levels are so low why even consider it at all just stamp it out for the nuisance it is and let people get on with normal lives...
why waste valuable tax payers time and money on something that affects such a tiny minority, such a tiny minority which points out it is unnatural and abnormal..

however you forget ...the levels of YOUR particular branch of virulent ideology is ALSO at a very low level...so should we also stamp that out for the nuisance it is and let people get on with normal lives?

YOU are in a tiny minority which points out that YOU are unnatural and abnormal?

that is before we start to look at moral questions about what is normal and what is reasonable and what is "fair"

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

mentor wrote:

however you forget ...the levels of YOUR particular branch of virulent ideology is ALSO at a very low level...so should we also stamp that out for the nuisance it is and let people get on with normal lives?

YOU are in a tiny minority which points out that YOU are unnatural and abnormal?

that is before we start to look at moral questions about what is normal and what is reasonable and what is "fair"

I'm not sure you can call Christians a tiny minority and when you consider many of our long standing laws are based upon biblical precepts, along with dating systems, Christianity and the bible are very important to society and its history...

eddie wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:So much fuss made over cake.

Let them eat it. That's what I say!

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:

Let them eat it. That's what I say!

Original Quill wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
yes i think it was before he won the election the first time but to get elected in the states this is the kind of "pandering "they have to do.....sad but true all presidents have done it too one degree or another

The first time around (2008) Dr. Obama declared he was against gay marriage.  Yes, I guess it was pandering of a sort.

During an appearance on Meet the Press in May 2012, Vice President Joe Biden stated he was in favor of full same-sex marriage rights, indicating a shift his position. Biden clarified that these were his personal views and not necessarily the views of the Obama administration.

After Biden's outing the administration, so to speak, a couple of days later Dr. Obama said, "At a certain point I've just concluded that for me, personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married."  

He later indicated his views were evolving:  "I had hesitated on gay marriage, in part, because I thought civil unions would be sufficient," he said. "I was sensitive to the fact that -- for a lot of people -- that the word marriage is something that provokes very powerful traditions and religious beliefs."

mentor wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:if the levels are so low why even consider it at all just stamp it out for the nuisance it is and let people get on with normal lives...
why waste valuable tax payers time and money on something that affects such a tiny minority, such a tiny minority which points out it is unnatural and abnormal..

however you forget ...the levels of YOUR particular branch of virulent ideology is ALSO at a very low level...so should we also stamp that out for the nuisance it is and let people get on with normal lives?

YOU are in a tiny minority which points out that YOU are unnatural and abnormal?

that is before we start to look at moral questions about what is normal and what is reasonable and what is "fair"

korban dallas wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

The first time around (2008) Dr. Obama declared he was against gay marriage.  Yes, I guess it was pandering of a sort.

During an appearance on Meet the Press in May 2012, Vice President Joe Biden stated he was in favor of full same-sex marriage rights, indicating a shift his position. Biden clarified that these were his personal views and not necessarily the views of the Obama administration.

After Biden's outing the administration, so to speak, a couple of days later Dr. Obama said, "At a certain point I've just concluded that for me, personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married."  

He later indicated his views were evolving:  "I had hesitated on gay marriage, in part, because I thought civil unions would be sufficient," he said. "I was sensitive to the fact that -- for a lot of people -- that the word marriage is something that provokes very powerful traditions and religious beliefs."

to be fair, and you realised. that pandering was the only word i could think of .
if he had said in 2008 he was for gay marriage ( a term i am not keen on) he would never have been elected because as you say it`s something that provokes very powerful traditions,in many ways analogous to gun control really and as we  have seen the confederate flag
hence why the republican presidential candidates are jumping all over these issues at the moment ........but they haven`t grasped the fact american attitudes are changing to these issues
its like how earthquakes happen i guess pressure builds slowly till they is a sudden shift and it was a 9.6  for gay rights and the remnants of slavery

korban dallas wrote:

mentor wrote:

however you forget ...the levels of YOUR particular branch of virulent ideology is ALSO at a very low level...so should we also stamp that out for the nuisance it is and let people get on with normal lives?

YOU are in a tiny minority which points out that YOU are unnatural and abnormal?

that is before we start to look at moral questions about what is normal and what is reasonable and what is "fair"

which is ?i have asked him 4 times what particular branch of ideology he subscribes too he never answers ...one has therefore got to assume he is embarrassed by it

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
which is ?i have asked him 4 times what particular branch of ideology he subscribes too he never answers ...one has therefore got to assume he is embarrassed by it

I have made no secret about my faith, I am a bible believing Christian....

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
which is ?i have asked him 4 times what particular branch of ideology he subscribes too he never answers ...one has therefore got to assume he is embarrassed by it

I have made no secret about my faith, I am a bible believing Christian....

amen we need no other than the bible we don't need a building to be Christians xx

veya_victaous wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

amen we need no other than the bible we don't need a building to be Christians xx

wait are you heretics  
like the Cathars

I assume that means you take your own interpretation of the bible if you don't go to a church or take at least one of the sects bible studies

I thought you were evangelicals... but then you would need to go to church

mentor wrote:studying the bible makes less sense than studying the lord of the rings.

At least LoTR is "internally consistant"

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:the bible is excellent and consistent, with knowledges before it's time....

by simple cross referencing both scripture, other versions, and concordances it is quite easy to keep in context.

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:the bible is excellent and consistent, with knowledges before it's time....

by simple cross referencing both scripture, other versions, and concordances it is quite easy to keep in context.

After Herod died, an angel of the Lord appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt and said, “Get up, take the child and his mother and go to the land of Israel, for those who were trying to take the child’s life are dead.”

In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. (This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.) And everyone went to their own town to register. ... He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son.

A City Council member in Shreveport, La., has abandoned his effort to repeal an LGBT-inclusive antidiscrimination ordinance, following outcry from the public, including a transgender woman who dared him to stone her to death.

The council passed the ordinance in December by a vote of 6-1, following a successful campaign by a pro-LGBT coaltion known as Be Fair Shreveport. The ordinance, which bans discrimination in housing and employment within city limits on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity, received its lone "no" vote from Councilman Ron Webb. During the council's debate last December, Webb voiced his opposition, saying, "The Bible tells you homosexuals are an abomination," adding that he does not socialize with LGBT people

Eilzel wrote:Yes, HF requires a separate concordance to fully understand his book of life- the book alone is no sufficient I guess.

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

mentor wrote:well "intelligent poster" is definitely NOT something that YOU will ever be accused of.....nor a prize you are likely to win....

I take joy from knowing I am my own person, with my own opinion, happy in my own skin, with my own straight life, not having to let my sexuality define me because I am happy to be me!!!


wonder why you need to try so hard to impress people and attack women verbally perhaps you are trying to prove something you lack.....