No difference in kids with same-sex, opposite-sex parents: study

by Guest Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:39 am

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Scientists agree that children raised by same-sex couples are no worse off than children raised by parents of the opposite sex, according to a new study co-authored by a University of Oregon professor.The new research, which looked at 19,000 studies and articles related to same-sex parenting from 1977 to 2013, was released last week, and comes as the U.S. Supreme Court is set to rule by the end of this month on whether same-sex marriage is legal.“Consensus is overwhelming in terms of there being no difference in children who are raised by same-sex or different- sex parents,” University of Oregon sociology professor Ryan Light said on Tuesday.

Light, who co-authored the study with Jimi Adams of the University of Colorado at Denver, said the study may be too late to affect the court’s ruling this month but he hopes it will have an impact on future cases.

"I hope we’ll see acceptance of gay marriage of the courts and by the public at large," he said.The studies, Light said, showed some disagreement among scientists on the outcome of same-sex parenting in the 1980s but it largely subsided in the 1990s, and a clear consensus had formed by 2000 that there is no difference between same-sex and different-sex parenting in the psychological, behavioral or educational outcomes of children.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/23/us-usa-gaymarriage-study-idUSKBN0P32AM20150623

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:52 am

The idea a child with gay parents will 'probably end up gay' is the most idiotic argument against gay parenting. It is undermined by the fact nearly all gay people are gay in spite of having straight parents.

And tommy, there is zero real evidence of children of gay parents faring worse than others.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:55 am

Gays can't have children.

You totally missed what I was saying.

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:00 am

Wwll, as didge says, there are ways we can, just not through sex with our partner. But that is irrelevant as I said.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:38 am

All children are created through the input on a man and a woman.

But this was not was I was saying in my previous post.

by veya_victaous Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:45 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Gays can't have children.

You totally missed what I was saying.

LOL

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/penny-wong-and-partner-welcome-second-child-in-parliamentary-baby-boom/story-fn59niix-1227294187101

Labor senator Penny Wong has welcomed the birth of her second child, Hannah, amid a baby boom in federal parliament that will see at least six new arrivals for MPs this year.

Senator Wong announced on Twitter this morning that her partner, Sophie Allouache, had given birth to their second baby, reporting “everyone is doing well”.

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by nicko Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:00 am

Any one thought about what a child with two mums/dads goes through when other children at school find out? There is a child at my Grandaughters School that is bullied every day since other children found out she has two moms. You must know how cruel children can be.She comes home crying and it's heart breaking.

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:23 am

More Reason to educate against bullying and bigotry then right, nicko?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:46 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

so you want them to go through all the upset and trouble gay people have had to go through... we all know its a tough life because every gay in the world never shuts up about it...

It's people like you that make it hard for them, don't you get that?

no it isn't .

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:49 am

Eilzel wrote:More Reason to educate against bullying and bigotry then right, nicko?

It just shows that children know what is normal its just you and others who want to constantly brainwash everyone into believing you're normal .
Children see it as it is and normal is a mum and dad not homosexual parents .

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:52 am

Yes it is. People who insist gay is not normal, who make out we want to force views on people, who say we shouldn't be allowed kids and then those who equate homosexuality to a deviance and paedophilia (of which you do all but the last of), are why gay people remain discriminated against in many places. Try looking in a mirror- you say kids of gay parents will suffer the same abuse as gay people- well maybe, but that's because of views like yours.

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:57 am

You see right there, on one hand you claim kids of gay parents will suffer as gay people do, then you claim their families are not normal.

See VoD, you are not only prejudiced against gay people, but also our kids, what did they ever do to you?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:57 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Eilzel wrote:More Reason to educate against bullying and bigotry then right, nicko?

It just shows that children know what is normal its just you and others who want to constantly brainwash everyone into believing you're normal .
Children see it as it is and normal is a mum and dad not homosexual parents .

Okay how about this Dibs

Homosexual male A only has sex to reproduce one child with homosexual female A
Homosexual male B only has sex to reproduce one child with homosexual female B
Homosexual A male is married to Homosexual male B
Homosexual A female is married to Homosexual female B.
They all live together and raise the children together as two fathers and two mothers.
Would you agree by your methodology that to you would be the best way to raise a child, having now even better with two mothers and fathers?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:50 am

Eilzel wrote:Wwll, as didge says, there are ways we can, just not through sex with our partner. But that is irrelevant as I said.

so it is not natural, thank you for showing that... Smile

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:54 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Wwll, as didge says, there are ways we can, just not through sex with our partner. But that is irrelevant as I said.

so it is not natural, thank you for showing that...

So are infertile men and women are unnatural to you?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:56 am

Cuchulain wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

so it is not natural, thank you for showing that...

So are infertile men and women are unnatural to you?

well yes they kinda are..!!

but any child they could have would not be by natural means!!! Smile

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:58 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

So are infertile men and women are unnatural to you?

well yes they kinda are..!!

but any child they could have would not be by natural means!!!

Interesting so if a person is or has some form of defect they are unnatural to you then?

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:57 am

Cuchulain wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

so it is not natural, thank you for showing that...

So are infertile men and women are unnatural to you?

You are far more forgiving than I didge, it's still on ignore with me lol

The dimwit continues to miss points I see. All the best to you mate Smile

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:08 am

Eilzel wrote:You see right there, on one hand you claim kids of gay parents will suffer as gay people do, then you claim their families are not normal.

See VoD, you are not only prejudiced against gay people, but also our kids, what did they ever do to you?

No i'm not prejudiced i have every right to disagree with gay parents because in my view i don't want vulnerable being brought up confused .

You don't like our children going church because you don't like the thought of them being preached the gospel. So why is that any different ?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:09 am

Eilzel wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

So are infertile men and women are unnatural to you?

You are far more forgiving than I didge, it's still on ignore with me lol

The dimwit continues to miss points I see. All the best to you mate

How rude referring to someone as 'It' and then you expect people to be tolerant to your lifestyle , what a bigot

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:20 am

Eilzel wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

So are infertile men and women are unnatural to you?

You are far more forgiving than I didge, it's still on ignore with me lol

The dimwit continues to miss points I see. All the best to you mate

I know, I took off ignore as he was starting to debate again and then this moring on the other thread he failed to answer some simple points.
The same here.
Still waiting for an answer on my two mother and two father point lol

by eddie Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:25 am

nicko wrote:Any one thought about what a child with two mums/dads goes through when other children at school find out? There is a child at my Grandaughters School that is bullied every day since other children found out she has two moms. You must know how cruel children can be.She comes home crying and it's heart breaking.

I refer you to my previous post about children getting bullied for all different reasons.
So should two gingers not have a child then? In case the child is ginger and is mercilessly bullied?
Ginger kids got bullied at my school all the time.

There was also a girl that smelled too, and she was bullied.
Neither of her oart a were gay but she did have an alcoholic mother and a semi-absent father. She came from a "normal" family and she she was miserable as sin.

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:35 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Eilzel wrote:You see right there, on one hand you claim kids of gay parents will suffer as gay people do, then you claim their families are not normal.

See VoD, you are not only prejudiced against gay people, but also our kids, what did they ever do to you?

No i'm not prejudiced i have every right to disagree with gay parents because in my view i don't want vulnerable being brought up confused .

You don't like our children going church because you don't like the thought of them being preached the gospel. So why is that any different ?

But you aren't just disagreeing with gay parents- by presenting a view that says gay parent families are abnormal you are teaching a line than leads to children of gay parents being bullied.

And I never opposed taking children to church, I opposed religious schools.

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:13 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

You are far more forgiving than I didge, it's still on ignore with me lol

The dimwit continues to miss points I see. All the best to you mate

How rude referring to someone as 'It' and then you expect people to be tolerant to your lifestyle , what a bigot

gays are bigots they cannot help themselves..lol

by Lurker Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:27 pm

DEAR AMY: I recently discovered that my son, who is 17, is a homosexual. We are part of a church group and I fear that if people in that group find out they will make fun of me for having a gay child.

He won’t listen to reason, and he will not stop being gay. I feel as if he is doing this just to get back at me for forgetting his birthday for the past three years — I have a busy work schedule.

Please help him make the right choice in life by not being gay. He won’t listen to me, so maybe he will listen to you. -- Feeling Betrayed

DEAR BETRAYED: You could teach your son an important lesson by changing your own sexuality to show him how easy it is. Try it for the next year or so: Stop being a heterosexual to demonstrate to your son that a person’s sexuality is a matter of choice — to be dictated by one’s parents, the parents’ church and social pressure.

I assume that my suggestion will evoke a reaction that your sexuality is at the core of who you are. The same is true for your son. He has a right to be accepted by his parents for being exactly who he is.

When you “forget” a child’s birthday, you are basically negating him as a person. It is as if you are saying that you have forgotten his presence in the world. How very sad for him.

Pressuring your son to change his sexuality is wrong. If you cannot learn to accept him as he is, it might be safest for him to live elsewhere.

A group that could help you and your family figure out how to navigate this is Pflag.org. This organization is founded for parents, families, friends and allies of LGBT people, and has helped countless families through this challenge. Please research and connect with a local chapter.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:08 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Gays can't have children.

You totally missed what I was saying.

LOL

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/penny-wong-and-partner-welcome-second-child-in-parliamentary-baby-boom/story-fn59niix-1227294187101

Labor senator Penny Wong has welcomed the birth of her second child, Hannah, amid a baby boom in federal parliament that will see at least six new arrivals for MPs this year.

Senator Wong announced on Twitter this morning that her partner, Sophie Allouache, had given birth to their second baby, reporting “everyone is doing well”.

Not only can they we have a lesbian senator that HAS

Pretend all you like but this child didn't happen without the input of a man.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:15 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Children are made by a male and female and the best home environment forta child is with the mother and father.

Unfortunately mother and father relationships sometimes break down or something happens to one of The parents.

This is not ideal and children do suffer as a result in majority of cases.

Some single people with children go on to choose to have A relationship with someone else and in a minority of cases that may be with someone of The same sex.

This again is not ideal for the child and again they may suffer as a result of this and maybe even more so if the new partner is same sex as remaining parent... but this child still has this actual real parent as primary custodian and in most cases still has the other natural parent also involved.

This is all very different from intentionally handing a child from the care system to a completly unnatural home environment without a mother and father figure within it.

The previous cases I listed are unfortunate but intentionally placing a child in anything other than a normal and natural mother father home is plain wrong.

A child who may have already had trouble and not the best start in life does not deserve to be a pawn in the game of 'equality' top trumps while having their own best interests totally ignored and not given any choice in the matter.

The childs needs and wants should be paramount.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:23 pm

nicko wrote:Any one thought about what a child with two mums/dads goes through when other children at school find out? There is a child at my Grandaughters School that is bullied every day since other children found out she has two moms. You must know how cruel children can be.She comes home crying and it's heart breaking.

It is a shame that some people selfishly put their own deviant sexual desires as being more important than the needs and welfare of an innocent child.

Children know what's what and what's not and it's also not fair on them to be punished for saying so.

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:24 pm

^^^Awesome response isn't it Lurker Smile

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:31 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
nicko wrote:Any one thought about what a child with two mums/dads goes through when other children at school find out? There is a child at my Grandaughters School that is bullied every day since other children found out she has two moms. You must know how cruel children can be.She comes home crying and it's heart breaking.

It is a shame that some people selfishly put their own deviant sexual desires as being more important than the needs and welfare of an innocent child.

Children know what's what and what's not and it's also not fair on them to be punished for saying so.

very true...

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:54 pm

That's why it is not normal , if children know the difference and haven't been brainwashed into knowing then it is a natural instinct in them to know mum dad is normal .

Out of the mouths of babes .

by Eilzel Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:57 pm

Children will see most kids have mums and dads and so know the difference.

This hasn't been a problem for children with gay parents; seems only some adults are having difficulty getting it through their skulls.

by Tommy Monk Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:04 pm

It is normal and natural for children to have A mother and a father.

To force any other false idea of normal and natural onto an innocent child is wrong

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:05 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:That's why it is not normal , if children know the difference and haven't been brainwashed into knowing then it is a natural instinct in them to know mum dad is normal .

Out of the mouths of babes .

very true..

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:It is normal and natural for children to have A mother and a father.

To force any other idea false of normal and natural onto an innocent child is wrong

quite right..

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:07 pm

Eilzel wrote:Children will see most kids have mums and dads and so know the difference.

This hasn't been a problem for children with gay parents; seems only some adults are having difficulty getting it through their skulls.

I am still waiting to see a decent counter that has any empirical evidence that it is wrong for two lopving homosexual parents to raised a family.
All I have seen so far is the worst and poorest arguments that have no evidence, just bigotry mate.
The funniest is they have not been able to refute the countless studies that show children grow up very loved and cared for by homosexual parents.
How do they refute the views of the children themselves?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:08 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:It is normal and natural for children to have A mother and a father.

To force any other idea false of normal and natural onto an innocent child is wrong

So this would be normal to you:

Okay how about this

Homosexual male A only has sex to reproduce one child with homosexual female A
Homosexual male B only has sex to reproduce one child with homosexual female B
Homosexual A male is married to Homosexual male B
Homosexual A female is married to Homosexual female B.
They all live together and raise the children together as two fathers and two mothers.
Would you agree by your methodology that to you would be the best way to raise a child, having now even better with two mothers and fathers?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:10 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Children will see most kids have mums and dads and so know the difference.

This hasn't been a problem for children with gay parents; seems only some adults are having difficulty getting it through their skulls.
I am still waiting to see a decent counter that has any empirical evidence that it is wrong for two lopving homosexual parents to raised a family.
All I have seen so far is the worst and poorest arguments that have no evidence, just bigotry mate.
The funniest is they have not been able to refute the countless studies that show children grow up very loved and cared for by homosexual parents.
How do they refute the views of the children themselves?

I think you will find their have been far more reports stating children need a mother and a father for the child to grow and develope properly... Smile

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:11 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:
I am still waiting to see a decent counter that has any empirical evidence that it is wrong for two lopving homosexual parents to raised a family.
All I have seen so far is the worst and poorest arguments that have no evidence, just bigotry mate.
The funniest is they have not been able to refute the countless studies that show children grow up very loved and cared for by homosexual parents.
How do they refute the views of the children themselves?

I think you will find their have been far more reports stating children need a mother and a father for the child to grow and develope properly...

So yet more hearsay.
Again how do you counter the views of children raised themselves happy withg homosexual parents.

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:12 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:It is normal and natural for children to have A mother and a father.

To force any other idea false of normal and natural onto an innocent child is wrong

So this would be normal to you:

Okay how about this

Homosexual male A only has sex to reproduce one child with homosexual female A
Homosexual male B only has sex to reproduce one child with homosexual female B
Homosexual A male is married to Homosexual male B
Homosexual A female is married to Homosexual female B.
They all live together and raise the children together as two fathers and two mothers.
Would you agree by your methodology that to you would be the best way to raise a child, having now even better with two mothers and fathers?

the child is still not seeing a natural and normal interaction of a mother and father... it is still not natural..

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:14 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

So this would be normal to you:

Okay how about this

Homosexual male A only has sex to reproduce one child with homosexual female A
Homosexual male B only has sex to reproduce one child with homosexual female B
Homosexual A male is married to Homosexual male B
Homosexual A female is married to Homosexual female B.
They all live together and raise the children together as two fathers and two mothers.
Would you agree by your methodology that to you would be the best way to raise a child, having now even better with two mothers and fathers?

the child is still not seeing a natural and normal interaction of a mother and father... it is still not natural..

So you are saying only parents can love and care for people?
You really are talking the funniest load of bollocks I have come across.
So basically any single parent cannot possibly raise a child naturally according to you unless they are a couple and only male and female.

So where is the empirical evidence to say what is natural here?
Please present this?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:15 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

I think you will find their have been far more reports stating children need a mother and a father for the child to grow and develope properly...

So yet more hearsay.
Again how do you counter the views of children raised themselves happy with homosexual parents.

it is not heresay, there have been reports after report for many years of the necessity of a mother and father being required for a well rounded normal child..

kids have been upset when moved from abusive parents so what...it is what they get used to seeing, it does not mean it is good for them..

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:16 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

So yet more hearsay.
Again how do you counter the views of children raised themselves happy with homosexual parents.

it is not heresay, there have been reports after report for many years of the necessity of a mother and father being required for a well rounded normal child..

kids have been upset when moved from abusive parents so what...it is what they get used to seeing, it does not mean it is good for them..

Hearsay again.

This comical
Seriously present empirical evidence.
Present the evidence from the children raised.
So kids are never upset growing up with a mum and dad?
So why is it so many kids are in care then HF when the majority come from hetrosexual parents?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:17 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

the child is still not seeing a natural and normal interaction of a mother and father... it is still not natural..

So you are saying only parents can love and care for people?
You really are talking the funniest load of bollocks I have come across.
So basically any single parent cannot possibly raise a child naturally according to you unless they are a couple and only male and female.

So where is the empirical evidence to say what is natural here?
Please present this?

you have stated as have others that gays cannot naturally have children so we know that much..

so a man and a woman are natural to produce a child and to bring a child up...

a single parent can do a good job yes but most evidence points to a mother and father relationship with a child is the most important...

by Tommy Monk Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:17 pm

Children are made by a male and female and the best home environment forta child is with the mother and father.

Unfortunately mother and father relationships sometimes break down or something happens to one of The parents.

This is not ideal and children do suffer as a result in majority of cases.

Some single people with children go on to choose to have A relationship with someone else and in a minority of cases that may be with someone of The same sex.

This again is not ideal for the child and again they may suffer as a result of this and maybe even more so if the new partner is same sex as remaining parent... but this child still has this actual real parent as primary custodian and in most cases still has the other natural parent also involved.

This is all very different from intentionally handing a child from the care system to a completly unnatural home environment without a mother and father figure within it.

The previous cases I listed are unfortunate but intentionally placing a child in anything other than a normal and natural mother father home is plain wrong.

A child who may have already had trouble and not the best start in life does not deserve to be a pawn in the game of 'equality' top trumps while having their own best interests totally ignored and not given any choice in the matter.

The childs needs and wants should be paramount.

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:18 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

So you are saying only parents can love and care for people?
You really are talking the funniest load of bollocks I have come across.
So basically any single parent cannot possibly raise a child naturally according to you unless they are a couple and only male and female.

So where is the empirical evidence to say what is natural here?
Please present this?

you have stated as have others that gays cannot naturally have children so we know that much..

so a man and a woman are natural to produce a child and to bring a child up...

a single parent can do a good job yes but most evidence points to a mother and father relationship with a child is the most important...

You cannot explain what natural is.
I asked this earlier and you crawled away.
You stated infertile adults were unnatural did you not?
You keep telling me things that you have not backed up with any empirical evidence.

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:20 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

it is not heresay, there have been reports after report for many years of the necessity of a mother and father being required for a well rounded normal child..

kids have been upset when moved from abusive parents so what...it is what they get used to seeing, it does not mean it is good for them..

Hearsay again.

This comical
Seriously present empirical evidence.
Present the evidence from the children raised.
So kids are never upset growing up with a mum and dad?
So why is it so many kids are in care then HF when the majority come from hetrosexual parents?

you want me too find research, look any where you want on the internet going as far back as you like, only the more modern phenomenon of gay parents adopting that this has ever been questioned..

a family group has always been a mother and father and kids..

are you saying no kids parented by gays ever end up maladjusted or in care...

now that is comedy... Smile

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:20 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

The childs needs and wants should be paramount.

The last point is important.
So is a childs need better placed in care or with homosexual parents through adoption?
Is a child better placed in an unloving family with hetrosexual parents or a loving family of homosexual parents?

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:21 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Children are made by a male and female and the best home environment forta child is with the mother and father.

Unfortunately mother and father relationships sometimes break down or something happens to one of The parents.

This is not ideal and children do suffer as a result in majority of cases.

Some single people with children go on to choose to have A relationship with someone else and in a minority of cases that may be with someone of The same sex.

This again is not ideal for the child and again they may suffer as a result of this and maybe even more so if the new partner is same sex as remaining parent... but this child still has this actual real parent as primary custodian and in most cases still has the other natural parent also involved.

This is all very different from intentionally handing a child from the care system to a completly unnatural home environment without a mother and father figure within it.

The previous cases I listed are unfortunate but intentionally placing a child in anything other than a normal and natural mother father home is plain wrong.

A child who may have already had trouble and not the best start in life does not deserve to be a pawn in the game of 'equality' top trumps while having their own best interests totally ignored and not given any choice in the matter.

The childs needs and wants should be paramount.

not according to the gay agenda... unfortunately..

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:22 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Hearsay again.

This comical
Seriously present empirical evidence.
Present the evidence from the children raised.
So kids are never upset growing up with a mum and dad?
So why is it so many kids are in care then HF when the majority come from hetrosexual parents?

you want me too find research, look any where you want on the internet going as far back as you like, only the more modern phenomenon of gay parents adopting that this has ever been questioned..

a family group has always been a mother and father and kids..

are you saying no kids parented by gays ever end up maladjusted or in care...

now that is comedy...

You really cannot answer simple questions.
You just keep repeating things you cannot back up
I really am wasting my time even attempting to reason when you ignore points raise.

by Guest Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:24 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

you want me too find research, look any where you want on the internet going as far back as you like, only the more modern phenomenon of gay parents adopting that this has ever been questioned..

a family group has always been a mother and father and kids..

are you saying no kids parented by gays ever end up maladjusted or in care...

now that is comedy...

You really cannot answer simple questions.
You just keep repeating things you cannot back up
I really am wasting my time even attempting to reason when you ignore points raise.

if i showed you every research paper that ever said the best thing for a child is a mother and a father it would fill the blooming forum...

you could check it yourself but you won't..

I have not ignored any points raise, you just won't accept the answers to the points raised..