GE15 - results here!!

Lucifer Angel of Light wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

If you're going by the popular vote in Scotland alone, the SNP should have got around 30 seats - 50% of the population voted for the SNP.

No they should have got every seat they voted in the majority.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lucifer Angel of Light wrote:

No they should have got every seat they voted in the majority.

You have changed your tune. You said that that majority in Scotland voted for the SNP, and they did not - 50% is not a majority, it is half.

Lucifer Angel of Light wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

You have changed your tune. You said that that majority in Scotland voted for the SNP, and they did not - 50% is not a majority, it is half.

50% is a majority to the other parties voted for and by a massive margin.
Again I am not changing any tune, in each seat they were a clear majority.
They voted in the majority in Scotland for the SNP and you wish to impose a system which would clearly be at odds with the majority vote there. By your view we should not then bother given powers to local authorities, as by your view the voting should be as a nation to vote for a party and that locally the views of the majority do not count to you

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lucifer Angel of Light wrote:
50% is a majority to the other parties voted for and by a massive margin.
Again I am not changing any tune, in each seat they were a clear majority.
They voted in the majority in Scotland for the SNP and you wish to impose a system which would clearly be at odds with the majority vote there. By your view we should not then bother given powers to local authorities, as by your view the voting should be as a nation to vote for a party and that locally the views of the majority do not count to you

Um ... The SNP themselves want PR, so it's them who want to impose a different system on the voters of Scotland, and also the UK generally.

Therefore, it's the SNP who don't respect the current system.

... except that they've probably changed their minds now ...  

Lucifer Angel of Light wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge, you just repeated that same shit for the third time now...
Waffle and throwing your dummy out with no relevance to the debate as per usual
You always start doing that when lost an argument or shown to be an idiot!!!
Waffle and throwing your dummy out with no relevance to the debate as per usual


Poker Tell you have lost the deabte
Nobody ever wanted AV which was the only other choice offered... bit like offering worse quality food to the people who complain about poor quality food!!!
Nobody? Really, so you base this on now a subjective view , where again people have been given a choice and you are certainly arguing in favour of AV. So contradiction now to your hypocrisy
Rags, people have already been saying that PR would have delivered about 86 UKIP seats with their 4 million votes.

Is it fair?
That is subjective, because people also vote for an individual as much as they do for the party, so either system has both good and bad points, of which all you are doing is trying to sneak in the back door view your voting system, where in a local area, you wish to make the minority vote the majority based off your system.
Again you prove just what a complete hypocrite you are. You moan that you have not been given the vote on the EU and where you have been given the vote on first past the post you moan.
So the people in the majority voted for the first past the post system, which you clearly are again not respecting the majority view.
Again it works out at around 6,000 votes per constituency, where as the SNP had half the votes of UKIP which works out at over 24,000 votes per constituency they contested.
So would your voting system be fair to the majority of Scottish voters?
Clearly not

Tommy Monk wrote:

Lucifer Angel of Light wrote:
Is it fair?
That is subjective, because people also vote for an individual as much as they do for the party, so either system has both good and bad points, of which all you are doing is trying to sneak in the back door view your voting system, where in a local area, you wish to make the minority vote the majority based off your system.
Again you prove just what a complete hypocrite you are. You moan that you have not been given the vote on the EU and where you have been given the vote on first past the post you moan.
So the people in the majority voted for the first past the post system, which you clearly are again not respecting the majority view.
Again it works out at around 6,000 votes per constituency, where as the SNP had half the votes of UKIP which works out at over 24,000 votes per constituency they contested.
So would your voting system be fair to the majority of Scottish voters?
Clearly not

You just repeated the same shit again...!!!


And you call that debate?


Quite pathetic dodge... even by your standards!!!







Rags, I think getting 3 million more votes than last time and coming second in around 120 seats is a remarkable and promising result!


And if We get a Tory stitch up of the EU referendum during this parliament then you can bet that next gen election, UKIP will be winning those 120 seats and a whole lot more too!!!


And that will be with The current FPTP system!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

We've had the old repeating of posts bullshit, and now we have the (predictable) claim that points have t been answered...


Dodge... you really are a bell end sometimes!!!


Something that others will be able to clearly see here!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:The only thing you have ripped apart lately is your boy friends arse hole!!!