THe Greek referendun results a they come in.

Live from the the Greek Interior Ministry.

So far it's a landslide.

http://ekloges.ypes.gr/current/e/public/index.html#{%22cls%22:%22level%22,%22params%22:{%22level%22:%22epik%22,%22id%22:1}}

Thats gonna piss the IMF off! Whoop Whoop!

As I said on the other thread... if you believe the biased BBC bullshit that has been showing loads of Greek people supporting the euro you are very gullible...

Hate to tell you Tommy, but even though they voted no, they do still support the Euro. Realise that's a bit complicated for you to grasp.

Wonder how the markets will react in the morning at the thought that the Greeks may default and they'll have to sing for the money.

Brtish banks have an exposure of almost £10b and the government almost £2b through the IMF.

Something has to give an it probably will with a new finacial package being agreed.

Tommy Monk wrote:As I said on the other thread... if you believe the biased BBC bullshit that has been showing loads of Greek people supporting the euro you are very gullible...

Most of them do support the Euro they just don't agree with austerity being forced on them by Eurocrats.

And the IMF etc can't say that the Greek Government doesn't have the backing of the people.

REally...???



They support the euro...???



How do you know that... the BBC!?

Tommy Monk wrote:REally...???



They support the euro...???



How do you know that... the BBC!?

Howdo you know they don't?

No Tommy, some of us read widely:

Poll shows Greek support for euro still high
Half of Greek society thinks the country is worse off today than it was when the leftwing Syriza won the election in January, but two thirds predict that the government's standoff with creditors will end in agreement.

Large majorities of Greeks still supporting membership of the Eurozone (70 percent) and the government's confrontational approach with creditors (54 percent).

The figures come from a GPO poll for Mega Channel, based on interviews conducted over the weekend.

Fifty-six percent of Greeks blame the current impasse on creditors. A majority of 70 percent rejects the pro-austerity and anti-austerity division of political parties that has driven the political debate for half a decade. Both figures suggest that Greeks are slowly moving on from the central question of whether governments should do as they are told by outsiders, and towards the idea that governments should form their own plan for how to deal with the crisis and do what must be done.

Greece's talks with its creditors, the European Commission, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund, has become more confrontational under Syriza.

A text circulated by Alternate Foreign Minister for International Economic Relations reads as follows: "The Greek government has been struggling and will continue to struggle for a fair compromise. It is up to our European partners to decide whether, after six years of recession, the priority should be a strong reform programme to counter tax evasion, the power of the elites and the failings of the Greek public administration or yet more recessionary measures, yet more cuts in pensions and real wages. It is also time for a decision on whether Europe can encompass a government and people that have set social and economic priorities somewhat different [sic] from the mainstream. It is thus time to see whether pluralism, fairness and democracy are still European values worth preserving."

http://www.thenewathenian.com/2015/06/poll-shows-greek-support-for-euro-still.html

looks like a NO from the Greeks but i don`t think they really understand the question the way it was put on the ballot

That seals it then

Tommy Monk wrote:REally...???



They support the euro...???



How do you know that... the BBC!?

sky news

I'm sure I still have a few Drachma's kicking around from years ago so maybe I should look them out as they may still be useful

Bullshit polls...!?


Ultimately they are voting against the euro which is grossly overvalued for their country and economy and this Is the root cause of their financial problems.


Plus the fact that the EU enforces such strict straight jacket like rules so as to allow no leeway.


If some of You understood economics then you would see what I'm saying is correct.

Tommy Monk wrote:Bullshit polls...!?


Ultimately they are voting against the euro which is grossly overvalued for their country and economy and this Is the root cause of their financial problems.


Plus the fact that the EU enforces such strict straight jacket like rules so as to allow no leeway.


If some of You understood economics then you would see what I'm saying is correct.

You haven't said much other than the Greek's don't support the Euro.

Well as it is the root cause of the strangulation of their economy since they joined then that is what it is really all about.

I seriously hope this brings the whole rotten edifice crashing down....

And your point is...!!!???


All this proves is that the euro has been ruining their country and forced them into a position of needing the bail outs in the first place!!!


Money which they haven't even really been seeing but passing through their economy straight to others and ratcheting up more interest and debt for Greece and furthering their struggle and imposition of more and more cuts to pay for this.


A strangle hold...

Tommy Monk wrote:And your point is...!!!???


All this proves is that the euro has been ruining their country and forced them into a position of needing the bail outs in the first place!!!


Money which they haven't even really been seeing but passing through their economy straight to others and ratcheting up more interest and debt for Greece and furthering their struggle and imposition of more and more cuts to pay for this.


A strangle hold...

i agree

the eu wrecks companies so it can buy them out of the trouble then take control...it's that easy ..

The people that the Greek population are owed this debt to are the very same people that ripped them off in the first place - same as every other country that ended up in the sh!t because of them.

Irn Bru wrote:The people that the Greek population are owed this debt to are the very same people that ripped them off in the first place - same as every other country that ended up in the sh!t because of them.

I was under the impression you were all for the EU ?

would you vote out then ?

A form of fascism...

mentor wrote:I seriously hope this brings the whole rotten edifice crashing down....

Hear hear!
Well done the Greeks