Nigel Farage and the BBC TV debate

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Is a cult.

And I am dyslexic.


And he got thrashed during the debate.

What sort of twonk slags off an audience that has been selected for it cross party representation by a neutral,independant company?

A beer swilling, racist, smoking ex banker millionaire.

Nems in fairness you have come in on this thread to wind up sassy and admitted as much. Don't you think its time to just let it go?

Handy Andy wrote:Between 10% & 15% of people agree enough with Farage to actuslly vote for him.
Not exactly "many"people.

That is the percentage of people that support UKIP.
What I showed was the percentage of people that agreed with Nigel Farage on this one topic.
So again the audiance clearly held far more people in the bracket polled at 37% who disagreed with Nigel on this point and not the 52% who agreed with him.
That clearly shows a bias with the people of the audiance.

Eilzel wrote:Nems in fairness you have come in on this thread to wind up sassy and admitted as much. Don't you think its time to just let it go?

Why does it bother you?
Stick me on ignore Les

I shall fight lies arrogance and pomposity wherever it rears its head

Oh and can you point me to your post telling Sassy off for constantly having a go at Edds?

No? Thought not.

The difference is that sass and eds go at each other in the context of whatever debate is going on. You arrive in threads sometimes only to attack one person- what is the point?

I understood the initially fall out over a year ago but now? Really?

Eilzel wrote:The difference is that sass and eds go at each other in the context of whatever debate is going on. You arrive in threads sometimes only to attack one person- what is the point?

I understood the initially fall out over a year ago but now? Really?

Did you?

I am truly sorry it upsets you so much
perhaps you better just ignore my posts
then you wont be upset by my being so meeeeen

Nems wrote:

Eilzel wrote:The difference is that sass and eds go at each other in the context of whatever debate is going on. You arrive in threads sometimes only to attack one person- what is the point?

I understood the initially fall out over a year ago but now? Really?

Did you?

I am truly sorry it upsets you so much
perhaps you better just ignore my posts
then you wont be upset by my being so meeeeen

Ok, to be blunt, it is a petty, pointless and only serves to make you look like the sort of person who gets off on causing trouble- the sort of poster we have both criticized in the past. Even if there was anything the fall out I wasn't aware of its still pointless. What will you gain?

It isn't just about ignoring your posts. For a start I like to debate with anyone, including you, if a point comes up worth discussing, so ignoring is off the table where most are concerned, especially on Newsfix. But also, when you come in with a snipe at one poster then it does often derail whole threads, what previously either were or were going to be great discussions are knocked off into just another bitch at sass thread.

4 of us fell out with sassy when SF folded and whatever differences there were in the whys or hows or what occurred during that fall out it seems only 1 person is left still keeping it fresh. For my part it was only ever a forum fall out and I have moved way past that now and get on fine with sass again. I appreciate it went deeper with you two but how does it help behaving the way you are?

Eilzel wrote:The difference is that sass and eds go at each other in the context of whatever debate is going on. You arrive in threads sometimes only to attack one person- what is the point?

I understood the initially fall out over a year ago but now? Really?

From what I am reading many posters jump in and attack people on multiple threads without any reason.
So why are you singling out this poster here and only on this thread?
Seems to be a huge amount of people at each other here and agree people should move on.

Can we also get back to the debate please?

Eilzel wrote:

Nems wrote:

Did you?

I am truly sorry it upsets you so much
perhaps you better just ignore my posts
then you wont be upset by my being so meeeeen

Ok, to be  blunt, it is a petty, pointless and only serves to make you look like the sort of person who gets off on causing trouble- the sort of poster we have both criticized in the past. Even if there was anything the fall out I wasn't aware of its still pointless. What will you gain?

It isn't just about ignoring your posts. For a start I like to debate with anyone, including you, if a point comes up worth discussing, so ignoring is off the table where most are concerned, especially on Newsfix. But also, when you come in with a snipe at one poster then it does often derail whole threads, what previously either were or were going to be great discussions are knocked off into just another bitch at sass thread.

4 of us fell out with sassy when SF folded and whatever differences there were in the whys or hows or what occurred during that fall out it seems only 1 person is left still keeping it fresh. For my part it was only ever a forum fall out and I have moved way past that now and get on fine with sass again. I appreciate it went deeper with you two but how does it help behaving the way you are?

You flatter yourself Eilzel.

Don't ever forget it was me that brought down Speakfree.......And I wasn't even a registered member.

Of course Shady, your powers are greater than I can possibly imagine lol

Eilzel wrote:Of course Shady, your powers are greater than I can possibly imagine lol

I know.

Eilzel wrote:

Nems wrote:

Did you?

I am truly sorry it upsets you so much
perhaps you better just ignore my posts
then you wont be upset by my being so meeeeen

Ok, to be  blunt, it is a petty, pointless and only serves to make you look like the sort of person who gets off on causing trouble- the sort of poster we have both criticized in the past. Even if there was anything the fall out I wasn't aware of its still pointless. What will you gain?

It isn't just about ignoring your posts. For a start I like to debate with anyone, including you, if a point comes up worth discussing, so ignoring is off the table where most are concerned, especially on Newsfix. But also, when you come in with a snipe at one poster then it does often derail whole threads, what previously either were or were going to be great discussions are knocked off into just another bitch at sass thread.

4 of us fell out with sassy when SF folded and whatever differences there were in the whys or hows or what occurred during that fall out it seems only 1 person is left still keeping it fresh. For my part it was only ever a forum fall out and I have moved way past that now and get on fine with sass again. I appreciate it went deeper with you two but how does it help behaving the way you are?

For your part it was, I have told you you don't know the half and because you don't understand you see it as one way traffic.
I don't give a flying fuck to be honest. No one tells me what to do or what to post. That includes you.

The BBC audience (and panel) was so blatantly leftie biased, to not see this You must also be a biased leftie.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/571294/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-BBC-debate-fixed-Question-Time



http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/571439/Ukip-lawyers-biased-BBC-Furious-Farage-war-Left-wing-debate-audience

Irn Bru wrote:

darknessss wrote:one trick pony huh?


Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors statement is clear evidence that UKIP are winning the housing debate

Published Apr 17, 2015

ukiphousing-verdict.png  The respected Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) has praised UKIP’s housing policy for being the “first real programme of this campaign that seeks to solve Britain’s long-term supply-side crisis”.

In their analysis of our housing policy launched as part of our manifesto earlier in the week their Head of UK Policy writes: "Taken collectively, this raft of policies appeared to be the first real programme of this campaign that seeks to solve Britain’s long-term supply-side crisis."

They also noted that UKIP is the first party to agree to the RICS Property in Politics proposals for a national brownfield map, as a premise for the building of one million brownfield homes over the next ten years.





FROM  http://www.ukip.org/royal_institution_of_chartered_surveyors_statement_is_clear_evidence_that_ukip_are_winning_the_housing_debate

Yes, but with Nigel it still went back to immigration didn't it?

It is too high immigration that is causing the problems, We can't control levels while we have open door to half a billion people in EU, and as free movement is non negotiable, the only way is out of EU.


Why is this simple premise so hard for you lefties to understand?

Handy Andy wrote:Between 10% & 15% of people agree enough with Farage to actuslly vote for him.
Not exactly "many"people.

The true is much higher...


Wasn't it 28% in the EU elections!?


And I predict it will be nearer that mark in May than it Is to the bullshit made up polls which are propaganda tools to manipulate public opiugmm rather than to reflect it.

The latest Comres and Yougov polls put UKIP on around 13% - which is bang in the middle of where I said. The Euro elections bear no relation to a GE - wait and see until 8th May.
UKIP will get around 12% of all votes and if lucky, may have 4 or 5 MP's.

The polls are made up bullshit.



In one poll, about 100 people said lib Dems and they were given 13% and over 200 said UKIP but were only given 9%.



UKIP support is much higher than the polls will ever admit... that is why the lib lab con are shitting themselves.

Tommy Monk wrote:The polls are made up bullshit.



In one poll, about 100 people said lib Dems and they were given 13% and over 200 said UKIP but were only given 9%.



UKIP support is much higher than the polls will ever admit... that is why the lib lab con are shitting themselves.

Odd?

If polls are made up bullshit, why did you in your pervious post use a poll to back your view?

It seems you are happy to back polls when they were very accurate to EU Elections and yet when the same polls show you support is far lower in General elections you think the same people conducting them are making them up.

That really makes no sense at all to your view point.

Here is the opinion polls for the EU election:


2014 European Voting Intention

	Survey End Date	CON	LAB	LDEM	UKIP	GRN	BNP
YouGov/Sun/Times	21/05/14	22	26	9	27	10	1
Opinium	21/05/14	21	25	6	32	6	1
Survation/Mirror	20/05/14	23	27	9	32	4	1
YouGov/Sun	20/05/14	23	27	10	27	8	1
TNS	19/05/14	21	28	7	31	?	?
YouGov/Sun	19/05/14	21	28	10	24	12	1
ComRes/ITV (O)	18/05/14	20	27	7	33	6	1
YouGov/Sunday Times	16/05/14	23	27	9	26	9	1
Opinium	16/05/14	20	29	5	31	5	3
ICM/Sunday Telegraph (O)	15/05/14	26	29	7	25	6	?
ComRes/Independent on Sunday (O)	15/05/14	20	24	6	35	7	2
YouGov/Sun	14/05/14	22	28	10	25	10	1
Opinium	12/05/14	22	28	7	30	5	2
ICM/Guardian	11/05/14	27	24	7	26	10	0
ComRes/Coalition for Marriage	11/05/14	22	24	8	34	5	1
Survation/Mail on Sunday	09/05/14	21	28	9	32	5	1
Opinium	08/05/14	23	27	8	28	5	3
YouGov/Sky News	08/05/14	23	25	9	31	8	1
Survation/Mirror	03/05/14	24	28	7	31	4	2
YouGov/Sunday Times	02/05/14	22	28	7	29	8	1
Opinium	01/05/14	22	27	7	31	4	2
YouGov/Green Party	01/05/14	22	30	9	27	8	1
YouGov/Sun on Sunday	01/05/14	23	26	10	29	7	1
YouGov/Sun	30/04/14	22	29	9	28	8	1
TNS BMRB	28/04/14	18	27	10	36	n/a	n/a
ComRes/ITV News	27/04/14	18	27	8	38	4	0
YouGov/Sunday Times	25/04/14	19	28	9	31	8	0
YouGov/Sun	22/04/14	22	30	10	27	6	1
ICM/Sunday Telegraph (O)	17/04/14	22	30	8	27	?	?
ICM/Guardian	13/04/14	25	36	6	20	6	0
TNS BMRB	07/04/14	21	30	9	29	n/a	n/a
Populus/FT	06/04/14	27	31	10	25	3	0
Survation/Mail on Sunday	04/04/14	21	34	9	27	3	1
YouGov/Sunday Times	04/04/14	23	30	9	28	5	0
ComRes/People (O)	03/04/14	22	30	8	30	3	2
YouGov/Sunday Times	28/03/14	24	32	11	23	5	1
YouGov/Sun	27/03/14	24	28	11	26	7	1
Survation/Mail on Sunday	21/03/14	28	32	7	23	3	1
YouGov/Times	18/03/14	24	32	10	23	5	1
ComRes/Independent on Sunday (O)	12/03/14	21	28	8	30	6	0
ICM/Guardian	09/02/14	25	35	9	20	7	0
YouGov/Sun	15/01/14	23	32	9	26	5	0
Survation/Mail on Sunday	04/01/14	23	32	9	26	5	1
Survation/Daily Star	22/11/13	24	32	8	25	6	4
Survation/Mail on Sunday	11/10/13	21	35	11	22	5	1
ComRes/Open Europe (O)	24/05/13	21	23	18	27	4	1
ComRes/People (O)	10/01/13	22	35	8	23	5	2
YouGov	09/01/13	27	38	12	17	3	0
Survation/Mail on Sunday	05/01/13	24	31	11	22	6	1

Taking that average above from March onwards, the opinions show that UKIP did worse than expected come the EU elections.

I have not used any polls as you suggest.


I showed how that in one poll, in the raw data it showed about 100 people said lib Dems while over 200 said UKIP but the poll then published lib Dems on 13% and UKIP only on 9%.



It was the polls that claimed labour would win the EU elections.


When in fact UKIP got most votes and seats with about 28%.



Real UKIP support is much higher than polls admit and we will see that in May, in the only real poll that counts that is the real election.


I base My views on actual real election results in actual real recent elections.


I predicted a UKIP win in EU elections and some laughed and sneered at me then.



I now predict that UKIP will be getting nearer to 28% than the 13% or so that the made up polls would have us believe.

Lets face some home truths here.

Most supporters of UKIP are elderly idiots, ones that cannot abide getting along with people that pass on their poor views to the younger generation.

Is it fair to insult them?
Of course because why is it countles other elderly people who lived through the same bullshit discrmination can see that it is wrong?

It shows an element of the elderly society cannot move on and teach this realy poor view to their children. These people tend to hold not only racist views, but also homophobic views.

There is a correlation to that kind of ignorance which is born from a lack of education.

I still repsect all elderly people of course even when some of them hold idiotic views. I would still be there for them, help them cross the street for example, but there is no excuse for any of them that hold such poor views freom the past. We all can learn including those older.

The fact is most support for UKIP comes from people who hold the most daft views, they tend to be racist, xenophobic, homophobic and people need to ask themselves why?

Hate is not born in people but learnt. There is no reason to not get along with people. If you think there is, you are telling a lie, you only offer an excuse.

It means I can get along with you all too even if you hold views at odds with mine and I accept you have these views, just as you accept I have these opinions on your views. My view only wishes for those that hold these views to wake up, what is the harm in that?

Tommy Monk wrote:I have not used any polls as you suggest.


I showed how that in one poll, in the raw data it showed about 100 people said lib Dems while over 200 said UKIP but the poll then published lib Dems on 13% and UKIP only on 9%.



It was the polls that claimed labour would win the EU elections.


When in fact UKIP got most votes and seats with about 28%.



Real UKIP support is much higher than polls admit and we will see that in May, in the only real poll that counts that is the real election.


I base My views on actual real election results in actual real recent elections.


I predicted a UKIP win in EU elections and some laughed and sneered at me then.



I now predict that UKIP will be getting nearer to 28% than the 13% or so that the made up polls would have us believe.

You have shown you live in a bubble.

The polls over estimated support for UKIP in EU elections.

Well the only way you are going to learn reality is to see the result of a general election that will see no more than 6 at best UKIP seats

That is me being generous.

I take it you are a die hard UKIP supporter?

Nemesis wrote:Lets face some home truths here.

Most supporters of UKIP are elderly idiots, ones that cannot abide getting along with people that pass on their poor views to the younger generation.

Is it fair to insult them?
Of course because why is it countles other elderly people who lived through the same bullshit discrmination can see that it is wrong?

It shows an element of the elderly society cannot move on and teach this realy poor view to their children. These people tend to hold not only racist views, but also homophobic views.

There is a correlation to that kind of ignorance which is born from a lack of education.

I still repsect all elderly people of course even when some of them hold idiotic views. I would still be there for them, help them cross the street for example, but there is no excuse for any of them that hold such poor views freom the past. We all can learn including those older.

The fact is most support for UKIP comes from people who hold the most daft views, they tend to be racist, xenophobic, homophobic and people need to ask themselves why?

Hate is not born in people but learnt. There is no reason to not get along with people. If you think there is, you are telling a lie, you only offer an excuse.

It means I can get along with you all too even if you hold views at odds with mine and I accept you have these views, just as you accept I have these opinions on your views. My view only wishes for those that hold these views to wake up, what is the harm in that?

You are obviously new to this site so here is a bit of friendly advice for you.Take a back seat for a while & see how things go.I say this because you seem to lack strength of character,which will be a problem for you on this here.

Recently,a poster left the site in a hurry because she couldn't cope with aircraft carriers.Yes,I hear you say that's weird..............but it's true.

Shady wrote:

Nemesis wrote:Lets face some home truths here.

Most supporters of UKIP are elderly idiots, ones that cannot abide getting along with people that pass on their poor views to the younger generation.

Is it fair to insult them?
Of course because why is it countles other elderly people who lived through the same bullshit discrmination can see that it is wrong?

It shows an element of the elderly society cannot move on and teach this realy poor view to their children. These people tend to hold not only racist views, but also homophobic views.

There is a correlation to that kind of ignorance which is born from a lack of education.

I still repsect all elderly people of course even when some of them hold idiotic views. I would still be there for them, help them cross the street for example, but there is no excuse for any of them that hold such poor views freom the past. We all can learn including those older.

The fact is most support for UKIP comes from people who hold the most daft views, they tend to be racist, xenophobic, homophobic and people need to ask themselves why?

Hate is not born in people but learnt. There is no reason to not get along with people. If you think there is, you are telling a lie, you only offer an excuse.

It means I can get along with you all too even if you hold views at odds with mine and I accept you have these views, just as you accept I have these opinions on your views. My view only wishes for those that hold these views to wake up, what is the harm in that?

You are obviously new to this site so here is a bit of friendly advice for you.Take a back seat for a while & see how things go.I say this because you seem to lack strength of character,which will be a problem for you on this here.

Recently,a poster left the site in a hurry because she couldn't cope with aircraft carriers.Yes,I hear you say that's weird..............but it's true.

I wlecome your advice but being as you classed other humans as sub human, you will forgive me if I do not heed such an uneducated people like yourself in their advice?

Thanks but you seem the last person best to advise people.

Blah Blah Blah bullshit...


I disagree with the give away of OUR countries national democracy and powers to The illegal construct that is the EU dictatorship and I will be voting for the only party who haven't been part of The treachery in signing it away and are committed to getting out of EU And restoring our country to our total control through our national parliament through our democratic representatives.


That party is UKIP!


And the polls varied wildly in the months before and in the run up to The EU elections, overall showing a labour win.


UKIP support is still much much higher than the bullshit polls will ever admit. as they are designed to manipulate public opinion, not reflect it.


Coupled with the idea that if you don't want one party that you don't want anyway, then you have to vote for another party that you also don't want, encouraging people to vote for both of The two treacherous partys who sold us out in the first place and ensuring more of The same.


You can't support freedom and democracy and support the EU or the partys who sold us out to it without our consent.

They are opposites, like sanity and insanity.

Nemesis wrote:

Shady wrote:

You are obviously new to this site so here is a bit of friendly advice for you.Take a back seat for a while & see how things go.I say this because you seem to lack strength of character,which will be a problem for you on this here.

Recently,a poster left the site in a hurry because she couldn't cope with aircraft carriers.Yes,I hear you say that's weird..............but it's true.

I wlecome your advice but being as you classed other humans as sub human, you will forgive me if I do not heed such an uneducated people like yourself in their advice?

Thanks but you seem the last person best to advise people.

Are you sure? Because you seem particularly weak.

Tommy Monk wrote:Blah Blah Blah bullshit...


I disagree with the give away of OUR countries national democracy and powers to The illegal construct that is the EU dictatorship and I will be voting for the only party who haven't been part of The treachery in signing it away and are committed to getting out of EU And restoring our country to our total control through our national parliament through our democratic representatives.


That party is UKIP!


And the polls varied wildly in the months before and in the run up to The EU elections, overall showing a labour win.


UKIP support is still much much higher than the bullshit polls will ever admit. as they are designed to manipulate public opinion, not reflect it.


Coupled with the idea that if you don't want one party that you don't want anyway, then you have to vote for another party that you also don't want, encouraging people to vote for both of The two treacherous partys who sold us out in the first place and ensuring more of The same.


You can't support freedom and democracy and support the EU or the partys who sold us out to it without our consent.

They are opposites, like sanity and insanity.

Well so your view is the polls are wrong.

I agree, they gave UKIP far more support than they deserved.

It seems the only way you will learn is to see you no doubt go on holiday after a general election as I have no doubt that you will do after UKIP do badly.

I admire your belief, but it really is badly misplaced.

Shady wrote:

Nemesis wrote:

I wlecome your advice but being as you classed other humans as sub human, you will forgive me if I do not heed such an uneducated people like yourself in their advice?

Thanks but you seem the last person best to advise people.

Are you sure? Because you seem particularly weak.

Weak based on writing skills.

So you claim to be an expert on deciphering writing skills on emotions?

I must admit that indeed is a unique skill, how did you obtain this skill?
From talking as much nonsense as you do now?

I am in no doubt that if the polls had UKIP consistently running at around 35%, the kippers on here( and on Flop) would be extolling how accurate they are. Because the polls dont relect their expectations,they are wrong.

Handy Andy wrote:I am in no doubt that if the polls had UKIP consistently running at around 35%, the kippers on here( and on Flop) would be extolling how accurate they are. Because the polls dont relect their expectations,they are wrong.

Very correct on expectations of people deluded with support of parties.

Why have you changed your name again dodge?



lol

Labour said they got it wrong on immigration and promise to do something about it.


To The lefties, this is not racist.


Tory said they would bring net migration down to tens of thousands from hundreds of thousands.


No cries of racism from the lefties.


UKIP say they The same and automatic crying from the rest that they are all racist bigots etc.



Hypocrisy anyone?

Nemesis wrote:

Shady wrote:

Are you sure? Because you seem particularly weak.

Weak based on writing skills.

So you claim to be an expert on deciphering writing skills on emotions?

I must admit that indeed is a unique skill, how did you obtain this skill?
From talking as much nonsense as you do now?

I'm just concerned for your health as we are used to a couple of posters who became obsessed with posting & lost control.

I'll keep an eye out for you & take you under my wing.

Tommy Monk wrote:Labour said they got it wrong on immigration and promise to do something about it.


To The lefties, this is not racist.


Tory said they would bring net migration down to tens of thousands from hundreds of thousands.


No cries of racism from the lefties.


UKIP say they The same and automatic crying from the rest that they are all racist bigots etc.



Hypocrisy anyone?

You seem very bitter.

Have you tried anger management?

What is wrong with immigration?

Nothing, it is what has made this country.

It is also because of Non_British people today that you still hold a daft belief to call yourselves Great Britain.
What other nation claims they are great from subjugating a quarter oif the known world making them at best slaves?

Handy Andy wrote:I am in no doubt that if the polls had UKIP consistently running at around 35%, the kippers on here( and on Flop) would be extolling how accurate they are. Because the polls dont relect their expectations,they are wrong.

HA,you don't need to worry about UKIP.....just keep your eyes on wee Jimmy Krankie.

She's got hold of your magnificent (HAR HAR HAR!!) leader by the balls.

Shady wrote:

Nemesis wrote:

Weak based on writing skills.

So you claim to be an expert on deciphering writing skills on emotions?

I must admit that indeed is a unique skill, how did you obtain this skill?
From talking as much nonsense as you do now?

I'm just concerned for your health as we are used to a couple of posters who became obsessed with posting & lost control.

I'll keep an eye out for you & take you under my wing.

Odd again

I take it you are no form of doctor yet are concerned at my health.

I think that proves further how much you are in need of some education.

I have qualifications in this field.

Nemesis wrote:

Shady wrote:

I'm just concerned for your health as we are used to a couple of posters who became obsessed with posting & lost control.

I'll keep an eye out for you & take you under my wing.

Odd again

I take it you are no form of doctor yet are concerned at my health.

I think that proves further how much you are in need of some education.

I have qualifications in this field.

You have qualifications in this field? Well that's handy so maybe you could give us your opinion of,& help out this poster who I mentioned earlier.I look forward to your conclusion:




....Goodbye

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:22 pm
Sorry it was bad enough with Ben today, but I am not going to stay when someone makes fun and then basically is calling me a liar about my little sister who passed away who was severely disabled. I do not lie and those who know me and respect me know I do not lie about such things. This goes way below the belt, being the final straw and even more so to view and make fun of such disabilities when people suffer this daily.

All the best everyone, I truly wish you well, even those who do not think I would, but enough is enough, I do not come here to have the memory of my family and sister insulted. Sorry for any pain or hurt I cause anyone, it really was again not intended, I get carried away because I am passionate, though again I am sorry.

Take care Eddie, I know you will keep everyone happy and full of well being.
Ben, no hard feelings, you did anger me today, but that has no past.
Victor, loads of respect mate and wish you the very best.
Cass, thanking you with all my heart.
Nems, sorry for anything wrong I have ever said to you, it was never meant and I know you have a very good heart.
Irn, as much as we fought like cats and dogs, I will miss our bouts.
Veya, you wackadoodle, will miss are shenanigans.
Zack, definitely no hard feelings bro, and I do very much respect you.
Sassy I hope you find peace.
Stardesk, all the best buddy, you always post some of the most interesting views.
Quill, I will very much miss our history bouts.
Bee, just carry on buzzing.
Eilzel, again huge respect stand tall and proud buddy
Nicko, I wish for you to be pain free, take care mate.


If I have missed anyone, I really wish you all the best.

Take good care

Brasidas.

Shady wrote:

Nemesis wrote:

Odd again

I take it you are no form of doctor yet are concerned at my health.

I think that proves further how much you are in need of some education.

I have qualifications in this field.

You have qualifications in this field?  Well that's handy so maybe you could give us your opinion of,& help out this poster who I mentioned earlier.I look forward to your conclusion:




....Goodbye

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:22 pm
Sorry it was bad enough with Ben today, but I am not going to stay when someone makes fun and then basically is calling me a liar about my little sister who passed away who was severely disabled. I do not lie and those who know me and respect me know I do not lie about such things. This goes way below the belt, being the final straw and even more so to view and make fun of such disabilities when people suffer this daily.

All the best everyone, I truly wish you well, even those who do not think I would, but enough is enough, I do not come here to have the memory of my family and sister insulted. Sorry for any pain or hurt I cause anyone, it really was again not intended, I get carried away because I am passionate, though again I am sorry.

Take care Eddie, I know you will keep everyone happy and full of well being.
Ben, no hard feelings, you did anger me today, but that has no past.
Victor, loads of respect mate and wish you the very best.
Cass, thanking you with all my heart.
Nems, sorry for anything wrong I have ever said to you, it was never meant and I know you have a very good heart.
Irn, as much as we fought like cats and dogs, I will miss our bouts.
Veya, you wackadoodle, will miss are shenanigans.
Zack, definitely no hard feelings bro, and I do very much respect you.
Sassy I hope you find peace.
Stardesk, all the best buddy, you always post some of the most interesting views.
Quill, I will very much miss our history bouts.
Bee, just carry on buzzing.
Eilzel, again huge respect stand tall and proud buddy
Nicko, I wish for you to be pain free, take care mate.


If I have missed anyone, I really wish you all the best.

Take good care

Brasidas.

He or she seems free but at odds.

If that poster turns up here I am more than willing to help.

Thank you for passing that on.

Too much of anything is bad for you...


And we've definately had too much immigration over the last 15 years or so.


Nobody has ever voted for this and three quarters of British people want the levels to be drastically reduced.


In a democracy, the will of The people is enacted by the govt.


The problem here is that ou lab and Tory partys no longer work for the British people but instead work for the EU that they sold us out to.

Tommy Monk wrote:Too much of anything is bad for you...


And we've definately had too much immigration over the last 15 years or so.


Nobody has ever voted for this and three quarters of British people want the levels to be drastically reduced.


In a democracy, the will of The people is enacted by the govt.


The problem here is that ou lab and Tory partys no longer work for the British people but instead work for the EU that they sold us out to.

Really, I think too much hate is bad for you.

How is to much love bad for you?

At present the British people wish to stay in the EU.

That means if UKIP gained power their policies are based on leaving the EU

They have no contigency plan.

That is really fucked up.

Waffle...

Nemesis wrote:

Shady wrote:

You have qualifications in this field?  Well that's handy so maybe you could give us your opinion of,& help out this poster who I mentioned earlier.I look forward to your conclusion:




....Goodbye

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:22 pm
Sorry it was bad enough with Ben today, but I am not going to stay when someone makes fun and then basically is calling me a liar about my little sister who passed away who was severely disabled. I do not lie and those who know me and respect me know I do not lie about such things. This goes way below the belt, being the final straw and even more so to view and make fun of such disabilities when people suffer this daily.

All the best everyone, I truly wish you well, even those who do not think I would, but enough is enough, I do not come here to have the memory of my family and sister insulted. Sorry for any pain or hurt I cause anyone, it really was again not intended, I get carried away because I am passionate, though again I am sorry.

Take care Eddie, I know you will keep everyone happy and full of well being.
Ben, no hard feelings, you did anger me today, but that has no past.
Victor, loads of respect mate and wish you the very best.
Cass, thanking you with all my heart.
Nems, sorry for anything wrong I have ever said to you, it was never meant and I know you have a very good heart.
Irn, as much as we fought like cats and dogs, I will miss our bouts.
Veya, you wackadoodle, will miss are shenanigans.
Zack, definitely no hard feelings bro, and I do very much respect you.
Sassy I hope you find peace.
Stardesk, all the best buddy, you always post some of the most interesting views.
Quill, I will very much miss our history bouts.
Bee, just carry on buzzing.
Eilzel, again huge respect stand tall and proud buddy
Nicko, I wish for you to be pain free, take care mate.


If I have missed anyone, I really wish you all the best.

Take good care

Brasidas.

He or she seems free but at odds.

If that poster turns up here I am more than willing to help.

Thank you for passing that on.

Most of us here would disagree with you & would describe the poster as troubled.....not free.Definitely not free from her computer because she's always on it.

I'll definitely have to keep an eye out for you.

But you said you had qualifications...so give us a deeper understanding of the poster Brasidas please.

Tommy Monk wrote:Waffle...

Well I must concede to that last post lol

Blimey, have to go now.

Shady wrote:

Nemesis wrote:
He or she seems free but at odds.

If that poster turns up here I am more than willing to help.

Thank you for passing that on.

Most of us here would disagree with you & would describe the poster as troubled.....not free.Definitely not free from her computer because she's always on it.

I'll definitely have to keep an eye out for you.

But you said you had qualifications...so give us a deeper understanding of the poster Brasidas please.

Most, are you sure?

You seem confident..
So be my guest and put this to the vote then.

Putting this to the vote will show you how wrong and ignorant you are, with also sadly lacking qualifications.

So be my guest, put you view to the vote.

I back reason over stupidity.


Ball is in your court.

Bit pointless.
Ukip don't believe poll results.

'Laters' by any chance?

Handy Andy wrote:Bit pointless.
Ukip don't believe poll results.

Indeed Andy, but Shady has made a huge claim on poeple here.

Lets see if he has the balls to back it up.

Tommy Monk wrote:'Laters' by any chance?

yeah,laters Tom. Good debate.

Why don't we just answer the post and not the poster?
Perhaps that will help.

Nemesis wrote:Lets face some home truths here.

Most supporters of UKIP are elderly idiots, ones that cannot abide getting along with people that pass on their poor views to the younger generation.

Is it fair to insult them?
Of course because why is it countles other elderly people who lived through the same bullshit discrmination can see that it is wrong?

It shows an element of the elderly society cannot move on and teach this realy poor view to their children. These people tend to hold not only racist views, but also homophobic views.

There is a correlation to that kind of ignorance which is born from a lack of education.

I still repsect all elderly people of course even when some of them hold idiotic views. I would still be there for them, help them cross the street for example, but there is no excuse for any of them that hold such poor views freom the past. We all can learn including those older.

The fact is most support for UKIP comes from people who hold the most daft views, they tend to be racist, xenophobic, homophobic and people need to ask themselves why?

Hate is not born in people but learnt. There is no reason to not get along with people. If you think there is, you are telling a lie, you only offer an excuse.

It means I can get along with you all too even if you hold views at odds with mine and I accept you have these views, just as you accept I have these opinions on your views. My view only wishes for those that hold these views to wake up, what is the harm in that?

Missed this earlier... what a complete load of old bollocks!!!


Laced with the usual attempts at labeling anyone who doesn't agree with the 'progressive' agenda as racist/homophobic etc.


And also trying to attach this onto UKIP.


While yourself being completely stereotypical, age-ist and patronising as well!



People just want their democracy back, with the right to self determination and to make our own laws, rules and regulations.


It wasn't Torys or labours to give away...


We want controlled immigration, not mass immigration and open borders to half a billion people.


What is so wrong with that?