Accepting Gay People Could Bring Down Civilisation, Says Devon Newspaper Column

by Guest Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:17 am

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The editor of a Devon newspaper says he stands by a column which described homosexuality as "an aberration" and claimed social acceptance of gays signalled the end of the British, Roman and Greek empires.

The South Molton News, a monthly local paper in North Devon, received four complaints and its editor Paul Henderson was questioned by police after publishing the controversial column in its September issue.

One complainant said the article was deeply upsetting and took the small town "back into the dark ages".

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/22/south-molton-news-gay-column_n_5861388.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

WTF....

by Guest Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:52 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge, smoking is not a sexually deviant practice so you are comparing chalk and cheese.....

And quill, you are waffling complete bullshit there mate..... no proof..????

I think the biology of reproductive organs speaks for itself!!!!!

Plus what over 99% of the animal kingdom and human population do and have done for millions of years is also quite conclusive as to what is normal, natural and right....

What a wally, smoking is a very bad habit and unnatural which kills thousands each year and yet you now defend an unnatural habit and defend the right of people to practice an unnatural habit, you just defeated your own claim

Whoops

by Guest Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:57 pm

Lets see if Sphinx can use her brain.

If you have a general consensus of people in agreement to an opinion, what can happen?

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:00 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
sphinx wrote:

You can argue normalcy, you cannot argue natural because as I have already said for something to defined as natural it must take place in nature which homosexuality does in the majority of species.
As for right it depends on what rules you are measuring it against - in the only rule that counts ie the gaining of genetic advantage it is right.

I have yet to see evidence of this in majority of animal species and that it is also normal in any instance rather than it is just more examples of where things have gone wrong for some reason.....

The intended purpose of all animals reproductive organs, as backed up by the biological and mechanical design and workings of said organs is clear to all.

If some instances are observed that are not following this set design and purpose then that is not evidence of normality and right but evidence of where others have also behaved abnormally and doing things wrong.....

You havent seen the evidence because you refused to look at it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Reproductive organs is a misnomer. If the organs were only for reproduction then animals (and humans) would only be able to use them the number of times they could reproduce - when the reality is they are usable all the time.

As for biological/mechanical design a primary part of the organs is related to generating pleasurable sensations. In fact considering that there is next to no sensation in the nails/claws and that such materials would make a far more efficient delivery system for spermatozoa it can be strongly argued that the organs primary purpose is the receiving of pleasure (orgasm is separate from and unnecessary for ejaculation) with the reproductive role secondary to this.

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:03 am

Didge wrote:Lets see if Sphinx can use her brain.

If you have a general consensus of people in agreement to an opinion, what can happen?

Why has there been a consensus on something?

Or are you using the argument that because a consensus can result in mob behaviour we should not allow individuals to have opinions in case too many people agree with them.

Which indicates you secretly believe that the opinion being expressed will appeal to a majority of people.

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:09 am

sphinx wrote:
Didge wrote:Lets see if Sphinx can use her brain.

If you have a general consensus of people in agreement to an opinion, what can happen?

Why has there been a consensus on something?

Or are you using the argument that because a consensus can result in mob behaviour we should not allow individuals to have opinions in case too many people agree with them.

Which indicates you secretly believe that the opinion being expressed will appeal to a majority of people.

The opinion did appeal to a majority and still does today in may countries, this opinion based off delusional mythical beliefs, which is why you failed to comprehend this.
The reality is where an opinion gains a majority view of which seeks to demonize people it turns into punishing those formed from this opinion.
How much of history do I need to show you through centuries to prove this?

Thus expressing such opinions a re very wrong , especially if that view gains ground , unless unchecked which is why you are utterly clueless on this.

If something is wrong then you do everything to stem something that is wrong, because you fail to see where it always leads to.

This is the failed reasoning behind the UKIP philosophy, they wish to enable people to be as abusive as possible, to make abuse acceptable, which is never acceptable in a decent society. What you fail to understand is such opinions on homosexuality have only one purpose, to gain support of others all of which goes beyond your understanding.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:11 am

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge, smoking is not a sexually deviant practice so you are comparing chalk and cheese.....
And quill, you are waffling complete bullshit there mate..... no proof..????
I think the biology of reproductive organs speaks for itself!!!!!
Plus what over 99% of the animal kingdom and human population do and have done for millions of years is also quite conclusive as to what is normal, natural and right....
What a wally, smoking is a very bad habit and unnatural which kills thousands each year and yet you now defend an unnatural habit and defend the right of people to practice an unnatural habit, you just defeated your own claim
Whoops

Chalk and cheese dodge!

And I never said I supported smoking.

Smokers are treated differently to non smokers in many ways too.

And sphinx, that is more laughable conjecture than evidence I'm afraid.....

There are around 8.7 million animal species on the planet although the real number is unknown.

The link claims to have observed homosexuality in only something between 500-1500 species (ranging from primates to gut worms!!!! Gut worms???? Really??? Is this your evidence???) but then also admits this is not sexual....

So two animals of the same species and same sex who were friendly may have been categorized as homosexual when absolutely nothing of The sort.

All this shows is a tiny minority of a tiny minority of dumb animals and gut worms may have got it slightly wrong in accidentally and momentarily hooking up with another of same sex while in pursuit of one of opposite sex as is their natural desires and programming.

Complete waffle!!!!

lol!

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:22 am

Quote sphinx.....
You can argue normalcy, you cannot argue natural because as I have already said for something to defined as natural it must take place in nature which homosexuality does in the majority of species.

Your evidence/link has spurious claims to less than 1500 out of over 8,700,000 species.... and even undermines it's own claims by stating that in many instances it is not even sexual.....!!!

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:22 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:
What a wally, smoking is a very bad habit and unnatural which kills thousands each year and yet you now defend an unnatural habit and defend the right of people to practice an unnatural habit, you just defeated your own claim
Whoops

Chalk and cheese dodge!
And I never said I supported smoking.
Smokers are treated differently to non smokers in many ways too.
And sphinx, that is more laughable conjecture than evidence I'm afraid.....
There are around 8.7 million animal species on the planet although the real number is unknown.The link claims to have observed homosexuality in only something between 500-1500 species (ranging from primates to gut worms!!!! Gut worms???? Really??? Is this your evidence???) but then also admits this is not sexual....
So two animals of the same species and same sex who were friendly may have been categorized as homosexual when absolutely nothing of The sort.
All this shows is a tiny minority of a tiny minority of dumb animals and gut worms may have got it slightly wrong in accidentally and momentarily hooking up with another of same sex while in pursuit of one of opposite sex as is their natural desires and programming.
Complete waffle!!!!

Excellent so you admit to not liking smokers and thus cannot wait to see you argue endlessly and advocate that smokers be denied marriage, adoption etc, based off your illogical view points that smoking is unnatural then Twatti.
So basically in all these debates you have been unable to clarify and even define normality and even worse cannot back a view with any evidence that homosexuality is unnatural, being as you cannot even tell me a simple point on who you are attracted to, because you know this proves your theory of unnatural as nothing short of gobbldygook

It is funny how creating massive spaces in your replies makes your views look even more stupid, it exposes your inferiority complex over height, where I guess you must not be that tall that you always have to stretch everything to make you look taller.

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:26 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge, the earth does orbit the sun just like the biological and mechanical design and purpose of our reproductive organs is between opposite sexes.
It is The homosexuals who are trying to make us believe the sun orbits the earth which is flat.....
And les, you cling to this 'equality' fallacy argument which hangs on the misguided belief that a sexually deviant, unnatural and abnormal practice is in some way equal to a correct, natural and normal sexual practice, of which it isn't!!!!

This is your problem. You are OBSESSED with the 'act' of sex by two gay men (which is slightly strange on your part).

No one else is talking about a sexual act, we are talking about the rights of two consenting individuals to love each other and have their love recognized as being as real as anyone elses. The act is one aspect of it- perhaps you don't like the thought of it (though you think about it all the time it seems), and it is that juvenile 'icky' factor which clouds your whole thought process.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:07 am

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
Chalk and cheese dodge!
And I never said I supported smoking.
Smokers are treated differently to non smokers in many ways too.
And sphinx, that is more laughable conjecture than evidence I'm afraid.....
There are around 8.7 million animal species on the planet although the real number is unknown.The link claims to have observed homosexuality in only something between 500-1500 species (ranging from primates to gut worms!!!! Gut worms???? Really??? Is this your evidence???) but then also admits this is not sexual....
So two animals of the same species and same sex who were friendly may have been categorized as homosexual when absolutely nothing of The sort.
All this shows is a tiny minority of a tiny minority of dumb animals and gut worms may have got it slightly wrong in accidentally and momentarily hooking up with another of same sex while in pursuit of one of opposite sex as is their natural desires and programming.
Complete waffle!!!!

Excellent so you admit to not liking smokers and thus cannot wait to see you argue endlessly and advocate that smokers be denied marriage, adoption etc, based off your illogical view points that smoking is unnatural then Twatti.
So basically in all these debates you have been unable to clarify and even define normality and even worse cannot back a view with any evidence that homosexuality is unnatural, being as you cannot even tell me a simple point on who you are attracted to, because you know this proves your theory of unnatural as nothing short of gobbldygook
It is funny how creating massive spaces in your replies makes your views look even more stupid, it exposes your inferiority complex over height, where I guess you must not be that tall that you always have to stretch everything to make you look taller.

Earlier you were having a go at me for supporting smoking.....

Dodge said:

What a wally, smoking is a very bad habit and unnatural which kills thousands each year and yet you now defend an unnatural habit and defend the right of people to practice an unnatural habit, you just defeated your own claim....

I haven't said my view on smoking yet.... but it seems you are against both smoking and not smoking!!!!!

lol!

The rest of your post is irrelevant waffle......

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:23 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:
Excellent so you admit to not liking smokers and thus cannot wait to see you argue endlessly and advocate that smokers be denied marriage, adoption etc, based off your illogical view points that smoking is unnatural then Twatti.
So basically in all these debates you have been unable to clarify and even define normality and even worse cannot back a view with any evidence that homosexuality is unnatural, being as you cannot even tell me a simple point on who you are attracted to, because you know this proves your theory of unnatural as nothing short of gobbldygook
It is funny how creating massive spaces in your replies makes your views look even more stupid, it exposes your inferiority complex over height, where I guess you must not be that tall that you always have to stretch everything to make you look taller.

Earlier you were having a go at me for supporting smoking.....

Dodge said:

What a wally, smoking is a very bad habit and unnatural which kills thousands each year and yet you now defend an unnatural habit and defend the right of people to practice an unnatural habit, you just defeated your own claim....

I haven't said my view on smoking yet.... but it seems you are against both smoking and not smoking!!!!!

The rest of your post is irrelevant waffle......

I am a smoker you wally ha ha.
This is my point, I am using your daft philosophy and showing up for how absurd your position is on how you mean to passionately argue in defense of inequality. You fail to see you are trying to argue a case for people being inferior to you based off what you class as unnatural, whilst ignoring the fact you do not advocate any such same similarity to other acts that are very much unnatural, unlike homosexuality which is very natural.
The reality is it shows your views points are not only weak but based upon false premises, one of which being you know your argument on something being natural is flawed, thus showing your intent is based off not a natural view point but your disgust at the thought of two men engaged in sex.

This is what it boils down to, either religion or disgust why people argue against homosexuality, these are the reasons they argue against it, this is a fact. You are not religious, so your views have nothing to do with normality but abnormality. You clearly must be abnormal yourself to a case of abnormality, that would be the only reason you yourself would back it. Therefore your argument has no justification or any sound reasoning to give it any credibility, where such views should be refined to the trash can where they belong.
Your views are based off irrational reasons, only that you feel uncomfortable at the thought of 2 en engaged in sex, thus your arguments before it starts is based off a lack of understanding and prudishness.

This the reason why I add smoking here, which actually has danger attached to it, real danger of harm to others, one that is clearly unnatural where you never are vocal on ever, showing the thought behind your claim of normality is nothing short of a lie, as you never speak out actively against. You would do so based off your views on homosexuality, which proves your arguments are a sham, where they are based off nothing but disgust.

What it shows is you are unable to adapt also, why you fear immigration as well, it explains many of your failings, that you seek to deny yourself to change for the better and you are happy to give up rationality and decency to defend your selfishness.

You choose an odd path in life, not one where it will bring you much joy.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:48 am

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Earlier you were having a go at me for supporting smoking.....

I haven't said my view on smoking yet.... but it seems you are against both smoking and not smoking!!!!!

The rest of your post is irrelevant waffle......
I am a smoker you wally ha ha.
This is my point, I am using your daft philosophy and showing up for how absurd your position is on how you mean to passionately argue in defense of inequality. You fail to see you are trying to argue a case for people being inferior to you based off what you class as unnatural, whilst ignoring the fact you do not advocate any such same similarity to other acts that are very much unnatural, unlike homosexuality which is very natural.
The reality is it shows your views points are not only weak but based upon false premises, one of which being you know your argument on something being natural is flawed, thus showing your intent is based off not a natural view point but your disgust at the thought of two men engaged in sex.
This is what it boils down to, either religion or disgust why people argue against homosexuality, these are the reasons they argue against it, this is a fact. You are not religious, so your views have nothing to do with normality but abnormality. You clearly must be abnormal yourself to a case of abnormality, that would be the only reason you yourself would back it. Therefore your argument has no justification or any sound reasoning to give it any credibility, where such views should be refined to the trash can where they belong.
Your views are based off irrational reasons, only that you feel uncomfortable at the thought of 2 en engaged in sex, thus your arguments before it starts is based off a lack of understanding and prudishness.
This the reason why I add smoking here, which actually has danger attached to it, real danger of harm to others, one that is clearly unnatural where you never are vocal on ever, showing the thought behind your claim of normality is nothing short of a lie, as you never speak out actively against. You would do so based off your views on homosexuality, which proves your arguments are a sham, where they are based off nothing but disgust.
What it shows is you are unable to adapt also, why you fear immigration as well, it explains many of your failings, that you seek to deny yourself to change for the better and you are happy to give up rationality and decency to defend your selfishness.
You choose an odd path in life, not one where it will bring you much joy.

Had to capture this waffle before you sobered up and edited it away.....

You shouldn't drink on an empty head dodge....!!!

lol!

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:49 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:
I am a smoker you wally ha ha.
This is my point, I am using your daft philosophy and showing up for how absurd your position is on how you mean to passionately argue in defense of inequality. You fail to see you are trying to argue a case for people being inferior to you based off what you class as unnatural, whilst ignoring the fact you do not advocate any such same similarity to other acts that are very much unnatural, unlike homosexuality which is very natural.
The reality is it shows your views points are not only weak but based upon false premises, one of which being you know your argument on something being natural is flawed, thus showing your intent is based off not a natural view point but your disgust at the thought of two men engaged in sex.
This is what it boils down to, either religion or disgust why people argue against homosexuality, these are the reasons they argue against it, this is a fact. You are not religious, so your views have nothing to do with normality but abnormality. You clearly must be abnormal yourself to a case of abnormality, that would be the only reason you yourself would back it. Therefore your argument has no justification or any sound reasoning to give it any credibility, where such views should be refined to the trash can where they belong.
Your views are based off irrational reasons, only that you feel uncomfortable at the thought of 2 en engaged in sex, thus your arguments before it starts is based off a lack of understanding and prudishness.
This the reason why I add smoking here, which actually has danger attached to it, real danger of harm to others, one that is clearly unnatural where you never are vocal on ever, showing the thought behind your claim of normality is nothing short of a lie, as you never speak out actively against. You would do so based off your views on homosexuality, which proves your arguments are a sham, where they are based off nothing but disgust.
What it shows is you are unable to adapt also, why you fear immigration as well, it explains many of your failings, that you seek to deny yourself to change for the better and you are happy to give up rationality and decency to defend your selfishness.
You choose an odd path in life, not one where it will bring you much joy.

Had to capture this waffle before you sobered up and edited it away.....
You shouldn't drink on an empty head dodge....!!!

Please capture it as it is perfect in summing up who you are twatti.
Again you have no response because you are always left with no answer but instead try to deflect away from the truth, that your arguments are absurd.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:00 am

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge, the earth does orbit the sun just like the biological and mechanical design and purpose of our reproductive organs is between opposite sexes.
It is The homosexuals who are trying to make us believe the sun orbits the earth which is flat.....
And les, you cling to this 'equality' fallacy argument which hangs on the misguided belief that a sexually deviant, unnatural and abnormal practice is in some way equal to a correct, natural and normal sexual practice, of which it isn't!!!!
This is your problem. You are OBSESSED with the 'act' of sex by two gay men (which is slightly strange on your part).
No one else is talking about a sexual act, we are talking about the rights of two consenting individuals to love each other and have their love recognized as being as real as anyone elses. The act is one aspect of it- perhaps you don't like the thought of it (though you think about it all the time it seems), and it is that juvenile 'icky' factor which clouds your whole thought process.

I think it's you homosexuals who are obsessed with the act somewhat.... all the time.... and not just thinking about it.... which must mean you are the most strange of all!!!!

And there is no 'icky' factor with normal, natural and right sexual behaviour..... I wonder why that is......?

.......it's as if it was how it was meant to be.....

.....maybe following the biological and mechanical design and purpose or some mad shit.......

.....next they'll be telling us the earth is round and It orbits the sun.....!?

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:02 am

Small man syndrome by Matti lol.

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:43 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
This is your problem. You are OBSESSED with the 'act' of sex by two gay men (which is slightly strange on your part).
No one else is talking about a sexual act, we are talking about the rights of two consenting individuals to love each other and have their love recognized as being as real as anyone elses. The act is one aspect of it- perhaps you don't like the thought of it (though you think about it all the time it seems), and it is that juvenile 'icky' factor which clouds your whole thought process.

I think it's you homosexuals who are obsessed with the act somewhat.... all the time.... and not just thinking about it.... which must mean you are the most strange of all!!!!

And there is no 'icky' factor with normal, natural and right sexual behaviour..... I wonder why that is......?

.......it's as if it was how it was meant to be.....

.....maybe following the biological and mechanical design and purpose or some mad shit.......

.....next they'll be telling us the earth is round and It orbits the sun.....!?

Well, I'd say there is an enormous 'ick' factor with vomiting, taking a dump, surgery and many other things monk; to many people oral sex is also pretty 'icky'. These are all 'perfectly natural' though, even by your terms I imagine. 'icky' is a subjective term however.

You obviously missed my point (unsurprisingly); which was that your own view is hideously based on a personal distaste for something. It may come as a surprise to your close minded wee brain that I actually don't spend most of my time engaged in, or even thinking about sex, any sex for that matter. You however seem to think we gays do nothing but think about it.

And this was what I was getting at earlier- you talk about gay people like we are just sex, sex, sex. This is your problem. You can't make any 'sex act' equal to anything. This is about people not sex. When I say you are strange for thinking about it that isn't because of what you are thinking about but because you spend so much effort thinking about something you claim to be so opposed to and find so abnormal- guess what monk, I find vomiting 'icky' but I don't spend a large portion of my time thinking about it Wink

Oh by the way, why not address quill's questions about 'design' and 'purpose' and why the hell you'd keep using those words (not a creationist are you?) or sphinx's idea of the beneficial aspects of homosexuality in society?

--Now I appreciate I've used a few whole paragraphs there, and there is certainly a few points being made. So before responding with line lots of line breaks and exclamation marks and next to no substance I'm going to politely ask you to break down what I've said so the content is digestible for you are come back with a thorough answer that is not just

not normal....! What a Face

not natural....! What a Face

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:07 pm

Are you really comparing homosexual sex with vomiting and taking a shit and surgery....???

lol!

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:14 pm

I thought he was comparing how people act over icky views, which seems way above your comprehension based on your ability to dodge every valid point he made.
It shows you are quite the coward and think immature insults to his sexuality will win your argument.
Try answering his points.

I dare you

by nicko Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:28 pm

many years ago, when i was still "up for it" as it were, if i was in bed waiting for the lady to come, if i'd heard her using the toilet it would put me right off!

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:40 pm

Didge wrote:I thought he was comparing how people act over icky views, which seems way above your comprehension based on your ability to dodge every valid point he made.
It shows you are quite the coward and think immature insults to his sexuality will win your argument.
Try answering his points.
I dare you

What points?

Was mostly drunken waffle....!

And sphinx never claimed homosexuality was a benefit to society, she was claiming some waffle about there being loads of evidence of homosexual behaviour in animals and it being a benefit to some animals in animal societies and I already destroyed her claims earlier....

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:47 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didge wrote:I thought he was comparing how people act over icky views, which seems way above your comprehension based on your ability to dodge every valid point he made.
It shows you are quite the coward and think immature insults to his sexuality will win your argument.
Try answering his points.
I dare you

What points?

Was mostly drunken waffle....!

And sphinx never claimed homosexuality was a benefit to society, she was claiming some waffle about there being loads of evidence of homosexual behaviour in animals and it being a benefit to some animals in animal societies and I already destroyed her claims earlier....

Dude, pick your dummies up off the floor and that is a complete copout answer trying to avoid answering his points.
You are trying to worm out of addressing his points, it proves you are cowardly, because even more so you know you are wrong and to admit a homosexual is right, infuriates you more than anything, which is very pathetic really.
I do not agree with Sphinx much, mainly political views, but she is very intelligent, one that makes me think, which I admire, so where as I may disagree with many political views, she is not stupid, her views are correct her, which you are avoiding also answering as you did with Quill.
You instead think juvenile behaviour is good debating, sorry its not.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:50 pm

Again.... what points?

And I'm not mugging sphinx off, just saying les was misquoting her and that I destroyed her claim earlier anyway....

The rest was drunken waffle!!!!

lol!

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:54 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Are you really comparing homosexual sex with vomiting and taking a shit and surgery....???

Point missed again huh- I get it, too many words for you. No worries, I expect nothing less from someone with the IQ of a bowling pin Laughing

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:57 pm

Again ...... what points?

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:57 pm

Epic fail again from Matti, who is clearly running so scared he cannot counter Eilzel's points.
Oh my, how cowardly again and do you know what is best about Eilzel leaving you dumbfounded without the ability to reply his points, that he is more of a man than you will ever hope to be.
He is honest, he is decent, all qualities you lack, he is not selfish and only wishes to be accepted and treated equally as he has every right too.

Ask yourself what do you really fear, because it seems to me your views are all based off fear, where your inner fears are something very much darker which binds you to who you are today.

If you have no reply bow out because you are looking sad and pathetic now.

One last chance to redeem yourself, good luck.

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:58 pm

Didge wrote:I thought he was comparing how people act over icky views, which seems way above your comprehension based on your ability to dodge every valid point he made.
It shows you are quite the coward and think immature insults to his sexuality will win your argument.
Try answering his points.

I dare you

He can't do it didge. The density of the man's cranium is too much, he can't manage anything but the slightest hint of 'thinking'- which must be where we get the same repetitive spiel time after time.

Sadly I'm not capable of simplifying my points to a level he will understand Neutral

haha

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:02 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Didge wrote:I thought he was comparing how people act over icky views, which seems way above your comprehension based on your ability to dodge every valid point he made.
It shows you are quite the coward and think immature insults to his sexuality will win your argument.
Try answering his points.

I dare you

He can't do it didge. The density of the man's cranium is too much, he can't manage anything but the slightest hint of 'thinking'- which must be where we get the same repetitive spiel time after time.

Sadly I'm not capable of simplifying my points to a level he will understand haha

Lets give him a chance, he is in the spotlight mate, want to see him squirm some more by trying to excuse answering your questions with more bullshit deflections.

Enjoy mate and have a seat

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:06 pm

You have no points.... just drunken waffle...
While my points still stand and are still unanswered......
Homosexuality is unnatural, abnormal and wrong!!!!

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:09 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:You have no points.... just drunken waffle...
While my points still stand and are still unanswered......
Homosexuality is unnatural, abnormal and wrong!!!!

What I read above was.

Rant, rant, throw dummy out of mouth, stamp feet, scream, throw body to floor and bang hands down on the ground repeatedly wailing until you get your way.

He easily show you up here and now you look an even bigger dick for continuing, because his counters battered your stupidity, it is why you now avoid them and deflect with more stupidity.

You have earned the title dumbo.

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:10 pm

You answered nothing in my post (too long, I know). Grow up or stop trying to pretend you can debate.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:16 pm

Again.... what points?

Take away the drunken waffle and there was not much left.....

I already showed that you were wrong on your bit about sphinx's claims and I asked you to clarify if you were equatiog homosexual sex with vomiting, taking a dump and surgery....

THe rest was just waffle.....

So here's your big chance to present your points in a more coherent manner for me to address.....

Let's have the points then...???

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:18 pm

What a child ha ha, you failed to answer his points, thus you took the path of an utter coward ha ha.
Fair play Eilzel, he is running scared.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:26 pm

I just asked him to reiterate his points with less drunken waffle and more clarity for me to be able to adequately address them......

Still waiting.......

Still waiting......

Oh yes.... I was right..... he has no points!!!!

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:28 pm

Copout darling.

Try again

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:33 pm

Drunk waffle? I haven't had a drink for about 3 weeks but ok. My post remains above monk, I'll not retype it I have better things to do than pander to stupidity.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:41 pm

Looks like dodge is stuck on repeat.....

Maybe he is broken...!?

Show me the points and I'll address them.

I have already asked several times now for him to clarify his points.
He can't because he has no points.

Anyway back to debate, and We can conclude that homosexuality is unnatural abnormal and wrong as it goes against thebiological and mechanical design and purpose of our reproductive organs, and that attraction is also designed to be between opposite sexes.

The claims of homosexuality being widely observed in the majority of animal species has also been shown to be spurious and unfounded waffle.

lol!

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:44 pm

Thank you for proving my point Matti.
Where you deflect on me or any excuse to try and get out of answering ha ha.

Try agian

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:46 pm

You have founded nothing, you are that one old man in the pub sitting alone spouting some nonesense while everyone tells you you should go home and stop making a fool of yourself.

You lost to history monk, you proven nothing to anyone but yourself, get over it.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:48 pm

Still no points I see.....!!!

lol!

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:51 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Still no points I see.....!!!

Ha Ha ha, that is what we are laughing at, you dummy, as you failed to answer Eilzel on his points.
You really are a dummy, sorry is not your fault buddy.

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:56 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

I think it's you homosexuals who are obsessed with the act somewhat.... all the time.... and not just thinking about it.... which must mean you are the most strange of all!!!!

And there is no 'icky' factor with normal, natural and right sexual behaviour..... I wonder why that is......?

.......it's as if it was how it was meant to be.....

.....maybe following the biological and mechanical design and purpose or some mad shit.......

.....next they'll be telling us the earth is round and It orbits the sun.....!?

Well, I'd say there is an enormous 'ick' factor with vomiting, taking a dump, surgery and many other things monk; to many people oral sex is also pretty 'icky'. These are all 'perfectly natural' though, even by your terms I imagine. 'icky' is a subjective term however.

You obviously missed my point (unsurprisingly); which was that your own view is hideously based on a personal distaste for something. It may come as a surprise to your close minded wee brain that I actually don't spend most of my time engaged in, or even thinking about sex, any sex for that matter. You however seem to think we gays do nothing but think about it.

And this was what I was getting at earlier- you talk about gay people like we are just sex, sex, sex. This is your problem. You can't make any 'sex act' equal to anything. This is about people not sex. When I say you are strange for thinking about it that isn't because of what you are thinking about but because you spend so much effort thinking about something you claim to be so opposed to and find so abnormal- guess what monk, I find vomiting 'icky' but I don't spend a large portion of my time thinking about it

Oh by the way, why not address quill's questions about 'design' and 'purpose' and why the hell you'd keep using those words (not a creationist are you?) or sphinx's idea of the beneficial aspects of homosexuality in society?

--Now I appreciate I've used a few whole paragraphs there, and there is certainly a few points being made. So before responding with line lots of line breaks and exclamation marks and next to no substance I'm going to politely ask you to break down what I've said so the content is digestible for you are come back with a thorough answer that is not just

not normal....!

not natural....!

There's my post again, I wont retype. Let's see if you can response like less of a thicko this time eh (I hold out no hope).

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:58 pm

lol fair play to Eilzel, he has Matti by the balls.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:01 pm

There were no points.
And you always behave the same when you have lost a debate.
That is what is funny!
You just keep banging on about how some invisible points have not been answered, just like you have been here today.....
There are no points.
Just dodgey waffle!!!!!
lol!

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:03 pm

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:17 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Well, I'd say there is an enormous 'ick' factor with vomiting, taking a dump, surgery and many other things monk; to many people oral sex is also pretty 'icky'. These are all 'perfectly natural' though, even by your terms I imagine. 'icky' is a subjective term however.
Is this a point? Really? What exactly is your point here? Are you comparing homosexual sex acts with vomiting, taking a dump and surgery? I don't think homosexuality is 'icky', I think it is unnatural, abnormal and wrong.
You obviously missed my point (unsurprisingly); which was that your own view is hideously based on a personal distaste for something. It may come as a surprise to your close minded wee brain that I actually don't spend most of my time engaged in, or even thinking about sex, any sex for that matter. You however seem to think we gays do nothing but think about it.
Now you are just trying to tell me what I think. Is that really a point??? Don't think so.
And this was what I was getting at earlier- you talk about gay people like we are just sex, sex, sex. This is your problem. You can't make any 'sex act' equal to anything. This is about people not sex. When I say you are strange for thinking about it that isn't because of what you are thinking about but because you spend so much effort thinking about something you claim to be so opposed to and find so abnormal- guess what monk, I find vomiting 'icky' but I don't spend a large portion of my time thinking about it
again I'm not sure what your point is here either. I don't spend any time thinking about homosexual sexual deviant behaviour. I'm just stating that it is wrong and why.
Oh by the way, why not address quill's questions about 'design' and 'purpose' and why the hell you'd keep using those words (not a creationist are you?) or sphinx's idea of the beneficial aspects of homosexuality in society?
Already answered the sphinx bit, and I think the biological and mechanical design and purpose is pretty self explanatory
--Now I appreciate I've used a few whole paragraphs there, and there is certainly a few points being made. So before responding with line lots of line breaks and exclamation marks and next to no substance I'm going to politely ask you to break down what I've said so the content is digestible for you are come back with a thorough answer that is not just
not normal....!
not natural....!

this last bit was just sure waffle and no points at all!
There's my post again, I wont retype. Let's see if you can response like less of a thicko this time eh (I hold out no hope).

So as I said before, no real points, I had already answered most of what little there was, the rest was just waffle as I already said!
Was that really that important to be answered....???
Not really was it if you're honest!!!
lol!

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by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:20 pm

Copout alert from Matii again lol.

by Tommy Monk Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:23 pm

I've answered everything.

Was a waste of time if we're honest.

No real points, just drunken waffle.....

by Guest Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:25 pm

Copout alert, as nobody need to defend a good point, thus you fear your views have no validity.

Whoops

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:33 pm

Obviously I wasn't comparing those things, I was simply pointing out the fact that many would consider them icky in light of your mentioning why people might find gay men having sex icky and using that to support your 'unnatural/abnormal' argument.

You see the number of posts of crap you make clearly caused you to forget why I made that post to begin with, which is why debate with you is such a messy waste of time most of the time...

And clearly you do think about gay sex acts more than you should since EVERY time the subject of gay people and equality comes up ALL you can talk about is the 'deviant' sex acts- it is you who always refers to this no one else, that is pretty strange compulsion isn't it?

Thr only real reason for your red in the face, exclamation dotted ramblings can be your disgust, ergo 'its icky' attitude. Nothing about love, nothing about humans, just icky deviant sex acts.

Really though monk the fact you initially discarded this post with sone juvenile remark is why you lost track of the point at all- you are as pathetic as you are ignorant tbh. You also continue to ignore quill's point (or miss it entirely). This is why people bore with debating you.

by Eilzel Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:34 pm

By the way why do you think I was drunk, or are you just being an oaf? I only ask because you know, look at my posts, cohesive sentence structure, paragraphing, punctuation etc, whereas yours... Well just look at them hahaha

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