Malaysian Plane 'Shot Down With 295 On Board'

[Guest]

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A Malaysian passenger plane has crashed in Ukraine, according to aviation sources cited by the Russian news agency Interfax.

The airliner, with an unspecified number of people on board, is thought to have come down close to the border with Russia.

It is not yet known where the aircraft was flying to or from, or what airline was involved.

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Update:


4:14pm UK, Thursday 17 July 2014

http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/malaysian-passenger-plane-crashes-in-ukraine



Malaysian Plane 'Shot Down With 295 On Board'
A Boeing 777 travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur reportedly comes down in Ukraine, close to the Russian border.
4:31pm UK, Thursday 17 July 2014
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A Malaysian passenger plane has crashed in Ukraine, according to aviation sources cited by the Russian news agency Interfax.

The airliner, which was travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur with 295 people on board, is thought to have come down close to the border with Russia.

A spokesman for Malaysian Airlines has confirmed "an incident" on board one of its flights and is expected to release a statement shortly.

The aircraft involved is believed to be a Boeing 777 with flight number MH17, which departed from Amsterdam at 12.14am local time.

Sky's Katie Stallard, in Moscow, said media reports suggest the plane came down in an area where there has been recent heavy fighting amid continuing tensions between Russia and Ukraine.

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[gerber]

Have heard the Russian counter claims.

Strange they are only coming out with today...... 4 days later and after Putin seemed to be in part agreeing to facilitate ( Well slightly ) the task of assisting free movement around the site. And after his crew have been in and violated the area and evidence.

Russian MOD at odds with boss....................

No independent voice saying the same as Russia.

[Raggamuffin]

Everyone is asking permission from Putin to let them access the site. It's not even in his country! Nobody will really stand up to this man will they? I can't blame them really - he's a man with a mission, and that type of person can be dangerous.

[Tommy Monk]

The people at crash site have been doing a difficult job in searching for, collecting and storing bodies as would be happening in much the same way anywhere else.

This must have been a most harrowing task for those involved.

Talso he black boxes will be handed over later today.

[Guest]

Good evening Folks.

You know all this 'mounting evidence' regarding the Russians involvement,where is it?

Because all I've seen so far are news media hysteria & American propaganda aimed at the Russians.

Where is the hard evidence? From an investigative point of view,I'm not interested in media hype or propaganda.I want hard evidence....Where is it?

[Original Quill]

Everyone is asking permission from Putin to let them access the site. It's not even in his country! Nobody will really stand up to this man will they? I can't blame them really - he's a man with a mission, and that type of person can be dangerous.

Putin is in charge of the Russian troops. The aircraft came down in the area of Ukraine that Russia has occupied.

It's not a matter of standing up to him. Everyone knows he is the only man to give permission. So they ask him.

[Tommy Monk]

Quite right shady!

[captain]

Good evening Folks.

You know all this 'mounting evidence' regarding the Russians involvement,where is it?

Because all I've seen so far are news media hysteria & American propaganda aimed at the Russians.

Where is the hard evidence? From an investigative point of view,I'm not interested in media hype or propaganda.I want hard evidence....Where is it?

With Shady 100%

I tried to post earlier.

This all wreaks of propaganda, all the lives lost and for what purpose? Hows utterly sickening, using human lives in such a revolting way and making the puppet media report what is obviously nothing less than lies.   

[Raggamuffin]

Everyone is asking permission from Putin to let them access the site. It's not even in his country! Nobody will really stand up to this man will they? I can't blame them really - he's a man with a mission, and that type of person can be dangerous.

Putin is in charge of the Russian troops.  The aircraft came down in the area of Ukraine that Russia has occupied.  

It's not a matter of standing up to him.  Everyone knows he is the only man to give permission.  So they ask him.

Yes, I know all that, but how pathetic is it all? He shouldn't really have "troops" in there, and considering that it was probably them who shot the plane down, the Governments of other countries need to be a bit more proactive. I realise that Putin will defend those rebels but who are they to dictate terms?

[Guest]

Good evening Folks.

You know all this 'mounting evidence' regarding the Russians involvement,where is it?

Because all I've seen so far are news media hysteria & American propaganda aimed at the Russians.

Where is the hard evidence? From an investigative point of view,I'm not interested in media hype or propaganda.I want hard evidence....Where is it?

good question Shady

[Lone Wolf]

 

SO THEN, now the two wannabe_trolls Shady and CaptainClueless have weighed in with their stupid suggestion that Russia isn't involved !

LET'S forget that the area is controlled by Russia; Russians have the Black boxes; Russian controlled "rebels" have destroyed the site ~ and begun moving bodies before investigators even got to see them..

NEVER mind that the Russian soldiers (those wearing the black balaclavas) and the stoned_out_their_minds local yokel "rebels" aren't denying a thing, but simply harassing and threatening the international delegations..

NOW that slimy "CaptainNobrain" above even going so far as to state that "..the puppet media report what is obviously nothing less than lies."

HOW much lower can these flopheads go in their efforts to upset things on this forum ?   

[Raggamuffin]

 

SO THEN, now the two wannabe_trolls Shady and CaptainClueless have weighed in with their stupid suggestion that Russia isn't involved !

LET'S forget that the area is controlled by Russia; Russians have the Black boxes; Russian controlled "rebels" have destroyed the site ~ and begun moving bodies before investigators even got to see them..

NEVER mind that the Russian soldiers (those wearing the black balaclavas) and the stoned_out_their_minds local yokel "rebels" aren't denying a thing, but simply harassing and threatening the international delegations..

NOW that slimy "CaptainNobrain" above even going so far as to state that  "..the puppet media report what is obviously nothing less than lies."

HOW much lower can these flopheads go in their efforts to upset things on this forum ?     

They're not upsetting things, they're just questioning the assumption that the Russians were involved. I think they were, but I respect that others might have a different opinion, and after all, there's no proof yet.

[Lone Wolf]

Good evening Folks.

You know all this 'mounting evidence' regarding the Russians involvement,where is it?

Because all I've seen so far are news media hysteria & American propaganda aimed at the Russians.

Where is the hard evidence? From an investigative point of view,I'm not interested in media hype or propaganda.I want hard evidence....Where is it?

good question Shady

  

TROLL number three enters stage left...


Actually little miss knowsnothing, there isn't one single "good" comment there from either Shady or CaptainShit_for_brains..   

[Guest]

 

SO THEN, now the two wannabe_trolls Shady and CaptainClueless have weighed in with their stupid suggestion that Russia isn't involved !

LET'S forget that the area is controlled by Russia; Russians have the Black boxes; Russian controlled "rebels" have destroyed the site ~ and begun moving bodies before investigators even got to see them..

NEVER mind that the Russian soldiers (those wearing the black balaclavas) and the stoned_out_their_minds local yokel "rebels" aren't denying a thing, but simply harassing and threatening the international delegations..

NOW that slimy "CaptainNobrain" above even going so far as to state that  "..the puppet media report what is obviously nothing less than lies."

HOW much lower can these flopheads go in their efforts to upset things on this forum ?     

They're not upsetting things, they're just questioning the assumption that the Russians were involved. I think they were, but I respect that others might have a different opinion, and after all, there's no proof yet.

I agree with you Raggs there is no proof and yet it seems the media are 100% .

[Guest]

good question Shady

  

TROLL number three enters stage left...


Actually little miss knowsnothing, there isn't one single "good" comment there from either Shady or CaptainShit_for_brains..     

sometimes only saying a few words is enough to make a point , you seem to like writing lots of words which is fine . Each to their own eh !

[Lone Wolf]

 

WHAT I found to be grossly abhorhent on the part of the Russian military is their destruction of what was a "crime scene" on the first day, the obvious looting and interference with bodies, the prevention of investigators and international delegates being allowed even onto the scene for more than three days...

AND on yesterdays news there was the scene of a crane and an excavator brought onto the site to further destroy the crash site !

[Lone Wolf]

 

SO THEN, now the two wannabe_trolls Shady and CaptainClueless have weighed in with their stupid suggestion that Russia isn't involved !

LET'S forget................................

HOW much lower can these flopheads go in their efforts to upset things on this forum ?     

They're not upsetting things, they're just questioning the assumption that the Russians were involved. I think they were, but I respect that others might have a different opinion, and after all, there's no proof yet.

  

NOT quite, Raggamuffin !

IN "her" post above CaptainClod states her opinion as a forgone fact ~ she's not actually questioning anything, but already takes her pro-Russian stance up front..

AND then that moronic VoD tries to boost the Shady position with her own horrible and vacuous trolling on here.  

[Original Quill]

 

WHAT I found to be grossly abhorhent on the part of the Russian military is their destruction of what was a "crime scene" on the first day, the obvious looting and interference with bodies, the prevention of investigators and international delegates being allowed even onto the scene for more than three days...

AND on yesterdays news there was the scene of a crane and an excavator brought onto the site to further destroy the crash site !

What I found to be grossly abhorrent on the part of the Russian military was the shooting down of the aircraft to begin with. Of course they are going to destroy the 'crime scene'...any time you leave the criminal in charge of the crime scene, you are going to get a bit of tampering. Those black boxes will only ever see the 7th-level storage basement in the Kremlin, right next to the ones never found when the Russians shot down Korea Air 007.

[Tommy Monk]

Fact is that The area would have been sealed off by whichever authorities were in control in whatever country this happened, bodies would not just be left sitting there decomposing, attracting wild animals (foxes wolves(?) etc) and increasing health risk.
It appears that bodies have been collected and moved to more suitable refrigerated location as is usually what happens.
What would people be saying if they were just left strewn about to rot???

[Original Quill]

Fact is that The area would have been sealed off by whichever authorities were in control in whatever country this happened, bodies would not just be left sitting there decomposing, attracting wild animals (foxes wolves(?) etc) and increasing health risk.
It appears that bodies have been collected and moved to more suitable refrigerated location as is usually what happens.
What would people be saying if they were just left strewn about to rot???

Most of the bodies were left "to rot" for three days. The Russians didn't care about bodies. They wanted to collect the parts of the aircraft with rocket residue that can lead back to mother Russia.

Only then did they look to the human remains.

[captain]

Looks to me like Lonely wolf, must be working for both elite and their puppet media. As he is howling out the same old tunes. Blah, blah. Go howl to someone who wants to hear it. As for me I have had a more than enough shit from to many cloth for brains to be adding you on my board of problems mate. Bet you still believe al-Qaeda caused 9/11.

People are to quick to jump on the first bit of information. I was once guilty of that too.

To everyone excepting the sad lonely wolf with a thorn stuck up firmly his or her ass.

I am not backing either side and I am not on the fence either they are all manipulating trash bags that have been left to fester for way to long!

[Original Quill]

Looks to me like Lonely wolf, must be working for both elite and their puppet media. As he is howling out the same old tunes. Blah, blah. Go howl to someone who wants to hear it. As for me I have had a more than enough shit from to many cloth for brains to be adding you on my board of problems mate. Bet you still believe al-Qaeda caused 9/11.

People are to quick to jump on the first bit of information.  I was once guilty of that too.

To everyone excepting the sad lonely wolf with a thorn stuck up firmly  his or her ass.

I am not backing either side and I am not on the fence either they are all manipulating trash bags that have been left to fester for way to long!  

This thread is not about LW. Put it in a PM to him.

[Lone Wolf]

Looks to me like Lonely wolf, must be working for both elite and their puppet media. As he is howling out the same old tunes. Blah, blah. Go howl to someone who wants to hear it. As for me I have had a more than enough shit.....................

To everyone excepting the sad lonely wolf with a thorn stuck up firmly  his or her ass.

...they are all manipulating trash bags that have been left to fester for way to long!  

  

CAPTAIN SCREWLOOSE obviously has some serious anger control issues there, doesn't he !!!

Pathetic little empty-headed girly man bitch, he be...

[Guest]

I had to laugh at obama on his interview, claiming russia had a hand in this just for selling them the equipment, no one seemed to blame the French for the british loss of life during the falklands yet they willingly supplied argentina with planes and anti shipping missiles...

some how i guess he is blinded by his own arrogance.

[Original Quill]

I had to laugh at obama on his interview, claiming russia had a hand in this just for selling them the equipment, no one seemed to blame the French for the british loss of life during the falklands yet they willingly supplied argentina with planes and anti shipping missiles...

some how i guess he is blinded by his own arrogance.

You didn't listen very well, did you? You think someone sold this equipment?    Fookin' animals couldn't afford a pack of cigarettes.

The Russian soldiers who fired this missile are commanded by Putin.

[Guest]

I had to laugh at obama on his interview, claiming russia had a hand in this just for selling them the equipment, no one seemed to blame the French for the british loss of life during the falklands yet they willingly supplied argentina with planes and anti shipping missiles...

some how i guess he is blinded by his own arrogance.

You didn't listen very well, did you?  You think someone sold this equipment?      Fookin' animals couldn't afford a pack of cigarettes.  

The Russian soldiers who fired this missile are commanded by Putin.

even if the russians supplied the equipment are the americans guilty of every death caused by the weapons they supplied to various groups...  

or does bull shit diplomacy only work one way...  

[Original Quill]

You didn't listen very well, did you?  You think someone sold this equipment?      Fookin' animals couldn't afford a pack of cigarettes.  

The Russian soldiers who fired this missile are commanded by Putin.

even if the russians supplied the equipment are the americans guilty of every death caused by the weapons they supplied to various groups...  

or does bull shit diplomacy only work one way...  

It's not a matter of the weapons. That's a diversion.

The Russians shot this aircraft down.

[Guest]

 

SO THEN, now the two wannabe_trolls Shady and CaptainClueless have weighed in with their stupid suggestion that Russia isn't involved !

LET'S forget that the area is controlled by Russia; Russians have the Black boxes; Russian controlled "rebels" have destroyed the site ~ and begun moving bodies before investigators even got to see them..

NEVER mind that the Russian soldiers (those wearing the black balaclavas) and the stoned_out_their_minds local yokel "rebels" aren't denying a thing, but simply harassing and threatening the international delegations..

NOW that slimy "CaptainNobrain" above even going so far as to state that  "..the puppet media report what is obviously nothing less than lies."

HOW much lower can these flopheads go in their efforts to upset things on this forum ?     

You poor thick trolling bastard,don't you even have half the intelligence of a rocking horse to make a decent post?

Perhaps if you spent less time exposing your penis in the bush,you might be taken a little seriously.

[Guest]

good question Shady

  

TROLL number three enters stage left...


Actually little miss knowsnothing, there isn't one single "good" comment there from either Shady or CaptainShit_for_brains..     

Poor ozzo troll with no brains.

[Original Quill]

 

SO THEN, now the two wannabe_trolls Shady and CaptainClueless have weighed in with their stupid suggestion that Russia isn't involved !

LET'S forget that the area is controlled by Russia; Russians have the Black boxes; Russian controlled "rebels" have destroyed the site ~ and begun moving bodies before investigators even got to see them..

NEVER mind that the Russian soldiers (those wearing the black balaclavas) and the stoned_out_their_minds local yokel "rebels" aren't denying a thing, but simply harassing and threatening the international delegations..

NOW that slimy "CaptainNobrain" above even going so far as to state that  "..the puppet media report what is obviously nothing less than lies."

HOW much lower can these flopheads go in their efforts to upset things on this forum ?     

You poor thick trolling bastard,don't you even have half the intelligence of a rocking horse to make a decent post?

Perhaps if you spent less time exposing your penis in the bush,you might be taken a little seriously.

Jeeezus fookin' cheeerist...look who's talking.    I didn't know you were interested in penises, Shady. I thot those were cross-bones.

[Guest]

You poor thick trolling bastard,don't you even have half the intelligence of a rocking horse to make a decent post?

Perhaps if you spent less time exposing your penis in the bush,you might be taken a little seriously.

Jeeezus fookin' cheeerist...look who's talking.    I didn't know you were interested in penises, Shady.

he does sometimes talk to you, so I guess he must be...  

[Guest]

 

WHAT I found to be grossly abhorhent on the part of the Russian military is their destruction of what was a "crime scene" on the first day, the obvious looting and interference with bodies, the prevention of investigators and international delegates being allowed even onto the scene for more than three days...

AND on yesterdays news there was the scene of a crane and an excavator brought onto the site to further destroy the crash site !

What I find abhorhent is that when RACIST COMMENT REMOVE women are raped by RACIST COMMENT REMOVEsub human men......no prosecution takes place......Why is that?

[Original Quill]

Jeeezus fookin' cheeerist...look who's talking.    I didn't know you were interested in penises, Shady.

he does sometimes talk to you, so I guess he must be...  

Yeah, Shady and Smelly seem to cross paths. Are they ever here the same time?

[Guest]

Looks to me like Lonely wolf, must be working for both elite and their puppet media. As he is howling out the same old tunes. Blah, blah. Go howl to someone who wants to hear it. As for me I have had a more than enough shit.....................

To everyone excepting the sad lonely wolf with a thorn stuck up firmly  his or her ass.

...they are all manipulating trash bags that have been left to fester for way to long!  

  

CAPTAIN SCREWLOOSE obviously has some serious anger control issues there, doesn't he !!!

Pathetic little empty-headed girly man bitch, he be...

Have you raped RACIST COMMENT REMOVEwomen & got away with it?

[Guest]

he does sometimes talk to you, so I guess he must be...  

Yeah, Shady and Smelly seem to cross paths.  Are they ever here the same time?

hmm people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....  

[Guest]

he does sometimes talk to you, so I guess he must be...  

Yeah, Shady and Smelly seem to cross paths.  Are they ever here the same time?

Could say the same about you & RACIST COMMENT REMOVErapist.

[Ben Reilly]

 

WHAT I found to be grossly abhorhent on the part of the Russian military is their destruction of what was a "crime scene" on the first day, the obvious looting and interference with bodies, the prevention of investigators and international delegates being allowed even onto the scene for more than three days...

AND on yesterdays news there was the scene of a crane and an excavator brought onto the site to further destroy the crash site !

What I find abhorhent is that when abbo women are raped by abbo sub human men......no prosecution takes place......Why is that?

Warned. Screenshots taken. Watch your step, buddy!

[Original Quill]

Yeah, Shady and Smelly seem to cross paths.  Are they ever here the same time?

Could say the same about you & abbo rapist.

Hit a nerve, did I?

Cheers, shady. Back later this evening.

[Guest]

Good evening Folks.

You know all this 'mounting evidence' regarding the Russians involvement,where is it?

Because all I've seen so far are news media hysteria & American propaganda aimed at the Russians.

Where is the hard evidence? From an investigative point of view,I'm not interested in media hype or propaganda.I want hard evidence....Where is it?

BUMP!

Thank you to the intelligent posters who responded & we'll have to forgive the poor abbo rapist who brain cells are stuck in the bush.

Regarding my post above,there is still no hard available evidence.And who's to say that the aircraft was not shot down by a Ukrainian with a US/CIA supplied SAM.

There's plenty of US supplied US weaponary in the hands of the Ukrainians.

[Guest]

Yeah, Shady and Smelly seem to cross paths.  Are they ever here the same time?

Could say the same about you & abbo rapist.

it has been spotted...  

[Guest]

What I find abhorhent is that when abbo women are raped by abbo sub human men......no prosecution takes place......Why is that?

Warned. Screenshots taken. Watch your step, buddy!

Go fuck yourself.

[Ben Reilly]

What I find abhorhent is that when abbo women are raped by abbo sub human men......no prosecution takes place......Why is that?

Warned. Screenshots taken. Watch your step, buddy!

Go fuck yourself.

All right, I'll go do that, and we'll see you later  ::D:: 

[Guest]

What I find abhorhent is that when abbo women are raped by abbo sub human men......no prosecution takes place......Why is that?

Warned. Screenshots taken. Watch your step, buddy!

I hope you have screenshots of all the complete bollocks lone wolf posts then Ben, because he is the most repulsive fucked up retard on any forum i have ever been on .

[Guest]

Good evening Folks.

You know all this 'mounting evidence' regarding the Russians involvement,where is it?

Because all I've seen so far are news media hysteria & American propaganda aimed at the Russians.

Where is the hard evidence? From an investigative point of view,I'm not interested in media hype or propaganda.I want hard evidence....Where is it?

BUMP!

Thank you to the intelligent posters who responded & we'll have to forgive the poor abbo rapist who brain cells are stuck in the bush.

Regarding my post above,there is still no hard available evidence.And who's to say that the aircraft was not shot down by a Ukrainian with a US/CIA supplied SAM.

There's plenty of US supplied US weaponary in the hands of the Ukrainians.

agree shady, i also hope Ben has been taking screenshots of all the vile post replies to innocent posters Lone wolf has constantly posted and i hope Ben will be giving Lone wolf a warning to .

[veya_victaous]

Looks to me like Lonely wolf, must be working for both elite and their puppet media. As he is howling out the same old tunes. Blah, blah. Go howl to someone who wants to hear it. As for me I have had a more than enough shit.....................

To everyone excepting the sad lonely wolf with a thorn stuck up firmly  his or her ass.

...they are all manipulating trash bags that have been left to fester for way to long!  

  

CAPTAIN SCREWLOOSE obviously has some serious anger control issues there, doesn't he !!!

Pathetic little empty-headed girly man bitch, he be...

Capitan Jane
Is NOT Shady if that's what your thinking

I can Vouch that Ben and Me both know Capitan Jane from Previous forums

Hi Jane Good to see you posting  :::tackle:::: 

[veya_victaous]

Sorry Ben had to remove Shady Racist Language  ::pnchy:: 

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