UPDATE: Malaysian P.M. says wreckage in satellite images was missing Malaysian flight

In what officials called the "best lead" of the nearly two-week-old aviation mystery, a satellite detected two objects floating about 1,000 miles off the coast of Australia and halfway to the desolate islands of the Antarctic.
The development raised new hope of finding the vanished jet and sent another emotional jolt to the families of the 239 people aboard.

Sarah Bajc, whose boyfriend, American Philip Wood, was aboard the plane, is one of those anxiously awaiting news.

"I'm desperate to hear it is an airplane wing and there are survivors clinging to it, and one of them is Philip," she told CBS News by email. "I'm apprehensive it will be unrelated and the wait will just continue after many more hours of misery."

"I am prepared for dead bodies," she wrote, "but I am not prepared for never knowing."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-possible-debris-from-missing-plane-spotted/

UPDATE link: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

   "Survivors" clinging onto a wing after 13 days ? I'd like to see that !

Methinks anybody still alive after smashing into the ocean from a few thousand metres at terminal velocity could be just a wee bit weather-beaten by now ~ forgetting for a moment about the sunburn, the dehydration, hypothemia, passing storms every couple of days, and the exhaustion from simply trying to hang on for so long..

AT least there was only the one American casualty on board ~ imagine all of the similar American-centric crappola we would be bombarded with by the US networks tripping over each other to portray their newly favourite sons and daughters as being somehow worth a hundred times more than any other nationalities, simply through an 'accident of birth'; if there had been 10 or 20 !   



THE search last night by an RAN S&R ship (fitted with the world's-best technology [i.e. shared US/Oz/NZ technologies), with a helicopter and a submersibe onboard ~ being constantly updated with info' from Aussie, American and Chinese sources..), was being hindered and delayed by rough and rainy conditions, and limited visibility ~ meaning that the floating radio beacons ('marker buoys') dropped from the Orion aircraft were their main navigation points..

no chance of survival on a plane wing out there, but it is very weird there is literally nothing out there, why would the plane taken over by terrorists or otherwise go there? even shipping generally avoids that patch of ocean as there is no need to cross it (ports are further north)

   APART from potential "suicide(s)", (a similar one happened with another Malaysian plane back in 1977 ~ that one was recognised as such by radio conversations with the pilot before impact, and black box-voice recorder recordings found among the wreckage back then..) ~ as already discussed as a leading possibility ~ there is also the possibility of sudden and fatal 'decompression'...

IF a windowpane or fusilage-panel in the pilots cabin is blown out or punctured ~ and the pilots "snap-frozen" at the time ~ the plane could simply fly on (on 'autopilot') until it eventally runs out of fuel..

THAT scenario happened with both a commercial airliner several years ago, and more recenly with private corporate jets over both Australia and the USA ~ where in all those three incidents, it was known what had happened, and countries were even prepared to shoot them down if they had flown towards populated areas.

AS in those cases, they were each tracked by RADAR and satellites for several hours all the way until their eventual impacts in remote regions (in desert/arid areas in Oz and the USA with the two corporate jets, and with the airliner timberworkers and farmworkers had watched it crash into a remote forested region in S.E. Asia, (somewhere like Thailand, if I recall properly..).    

I don't hold out hope for any survivors -- though I wouldn't totally rule it out with the story of the Mexican guy who survived for so long at sea.

Yeah, it bugs me too when the media acts like it didn't matter if Americans weren't affected. We saw a lot of that with the 2004 and 2011 tsunamis.

Is this not the subject of the next thread?

Well, to be fair, we don't read the Chinese Daily Mail or Malaysian Sun.

There will obviously be more "interest" over there, and more interest in our countries if more of our friends and family were involved. Don't be too harsh on the media.

If the big boats are struggling with the seas surely it is highly unlikely that any wreakage would still be in big pieces let alone still floating and visible.

gerber wrote:
If the big boats are struggling with the seas surely it is highly unlikely that any wreakage would still be in big pieces let alone still floating and visible.

  

STOP talking shite...

YOUR opinions are less than worthless when you have no idea of what you're yapping about..

You brainless mongrel.

This is the region of the Indian Ocean known as the 'Roarin' 40s,' meaning latitudes in the 40s. The currents in the area move at a rate of one-mph, or 24-miles in a day. How many days has it been--12? 13? What's worse, the currents move one way, the winds the opposite. The net effect is wider dispersal of the wreckage, not to mention sinking of the same.

The waves are typically 25-foot high in the Roarin 40's, so there is a lot of havoc on the surface of the ocean.

Lone Wolf wrote:

gerber wrote:
If the big boats are struggling with the seas surely it is highly unlikely that any wreakage would still be in big pieces let alone still floating and visible.

  

STOP talking shite...

YOUR opinions are less than worthless when you have no idea of what you're yapping about..

You brainless mongrel.

Oh for goodness sake, leave her alone Bee, I am beginning to think you are sexist the way you attack women.

She has every right to her point of view and there was also nothing wrong with her point of view.

For goodness sake change the record

Didge wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:
  

STOP talking shite...

YOUR opinions are less than worthless when you have no idea of what you're yapping about..

You brainless mongrel.

Oh for goodness sake, leave her alone Bee, I am beginning to think you are sexist the way you attack women.

She has every right to her point of view and there was also nothing wrong with her point of view.

For goodness sake change the record

Do you know what?

I laughed rather hard at Lone Wolf's post - it was so incredible and hard-hitting and at what appears (to me) to be a completely innocent poster.

I thought this earlier on - are we absolutely sure this is Beekeeper?

I really don't remember him being like this on Spekkensfrei.

if my posts are so irrelevant why are they being commented on


 ::D:: 

For the record to assuage doubt I am a full blown pedigree....... ::cheerlead:: 

gerber wrote:if my posts are so irrelevant why are they being commented on


 ::D:: 

For the record to assuage doubt I am a full blown pedigree....... ::cheerlead:: 

Your post was fine Gerber, you made a very valid point.

  

You do miss a lot, andy. Lol.

I think gerber's ok, too. But I'm not going to meddle in other people's personal opinions. Let's get back to flight 370.

Original Quill wrote:You do miss a lot, andy.  Lol.

I think gerber's ok, too.  But I'm not going to meddle in other people's personal opinions.

To be fair Quill, people should move on, so there is no real reason to continue abuse and getting to know each other works both ways, not just one way, she did not warrant that, it was poor and I have nothing against Bee either

Didge wrote:

gerber wrote:if my posts are so irrelevant why are they being commented on


 ::D:: 

For the record to assuage doubt I am a full blown pedigree....... ::cheerlead:: 

Your post was fine Gerber, you made a very valid point.

  

I thank you for that. But i am not all perturbed by comments from a loner.

gerber wrote:

Didge wrote:


Your post was fine Gerber, you made a very valid point.

  

I thank you for that.  But i am not all perturbed by comments from a loner.      

I sometimes get a boner when you post

  

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:You do miss a lot, andy.  Lol.

I think gerber's ok, too.  But I'm not going to meddle in other people's personal opinions.

To be fair Quill, people should move on, so there is no real reason to continue abuse and getting to know each other works both ways, not just one way, she did not warrant that, it was poor and I have nothing against Bee either

I know didge. Sometimes Bee is a little more rough than other times. Sometimes there is a reason for it.

There's always the PM.

Didge wrote:

gerber wrote:

I thank you for that.  But i am not all perturbed by comments from a loner.      

I sometimes get a boner when you post

  

You are sounding like Keith, but to take Quill's very valid point lets get back to the subject.......  

gerber wrote:

Didge wrote:


I sometimes get a boner when you post

  

You are sounding like Keith, but to take Quill's very valid point  lets get back to the subject.......  

I miss keith to be honest.

Your point was extremely valid Gerbs and one that the authorities are making.    They are saying that the debris that was seen will have moved a long way and will probably have sunk by now.   The black box only has 16 days of battery left (although that is minimum, it could last a few days more).   How they are going to find it I have no idea.

Original Quill wrote:

Didge wrote:


To be fair Quill, people should move on, so there is no real reason to continue abuse and getting to know each other works both ways, not just one way, she did not warrant that, it was poor and I have nothing against Bee either

I know didge.  Sometimes Bee is a little more rough than other times.  Sometimes there is a reason for it.

There's always the PM.

Not sure David Cameron would make a good mediator in this case.


  


Okay back to the debate, I am getting very silly now

And put your clothes back on, dammit. Lol

The Chinese government has said it has located a large object in the sea after viewing satellite imagery.

During a news conference in Kualu Lumpur on Saturday, Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein was handed a piece of paper containing details of the apparent discovery.

The object is thought to be 42ft long (13m) and 74ft wide (22.5m) and was spotted somewhere in the southern search corridor in the Indian Ocean.

China said the object was captured by its high-definition earth observation satellite "Gaofen-1", and ships have been dispatched to the area.

The search operation of the ocean south west of Perth in western Australia involving six aircraft on Saturday failed to locate any sign of debris spotted by a satellite last week.

And bad weather could affect the operation after a cyclone warning was declared for Tropical Cyclone Gillian, which is forecast to move into the southern search corridor

http://news.sky.com/story/1230164/missing-plane-china-spots-large-object-in-sea

Images on Link


India has said it has no sign of missing plane crossing its airspace after examining radar records.

 

ONCE again Sassy has hijacked these threads with her lying bullshite and c&p'd irrelevancies cluttering up the landscape!!!

NICE one, Sassy..

  

That's the latest update, if you don't like it, stick it up your bum.   You have become a joke, and a very bad one, in extremely poor taste.

The spotted wreckage looks promising as a lead.  It is about 75-feet by some 42-feet, as I recall.  But the sighting is still approximately 4-days old.  How far has it moved in that time.

This is one of the largest oceans in the world.  How many containers have fallen off container ships and been left to go it's own way.

Nevertheless, size in this case distinguishes this sighting.

No actually, its a new one that Malaysia was told about today, spotted two days after the previous ones that they couldn't find, but they have been trying verify the pictures:

China said the object was captured by its high-definition earth observation satellite, Gaofen-1, and ships have been dispatched to the area.

The image was taken on March 18, two days after an Australian satellite located objects in the water. The China image shows the object is around 75 miles south of where Australia pinpointed two objects.

The Chinese location is just to the south of the patch of ocean being combed south and west of Australia.

Unfortunately there is a cyclone warning out.

The report is 4-days old. The photo was snapped by the Chinese, I believe, on March 18th. It is new to the humans who are having to look over every stitch of evidence by hand.

I certainly wish this were being handled by Americans. Things would be happening with a degree of dispatch, we haven't seen here.

They were given it at the beginning of the 21st and it was taken at the end of the 18th.

26 countries are involved. All of them using the highest tech possible. Don't start the american clap trap, it couldn't be handled any faster because of the size of the area.

 

Radio beacons ("marker buoys") were dropped from an Orion plane at each end of the area where the "debris" was seen ~ they would be floating in the same general direction, and should be close to the same speed, even if they drift a few kms off..

The RAN found Tony Bullimore in the Southern Ocean, and then they rescued that French chick further south; and then a few years later they pulled off a rescue in the soutern Ocean that stilltops the record books for the most difficult Ocean rescues...

People talk about the Americans having the best detection euipment ~ they put them in some of the Aussie ships as well as their own, and three of the Americans satellite tracking stations are based on Aussie military bases. And one of them in W.A. has apparently been used to speed up communications ith both military/navigation and a couple of corporate satellites..

IF the debris proves to be from the missing plane, the S&R ship has a 'submersible' and a helicopter on board, as well as naval "clearance divers" ith all the right gear.

China currently has three of their ships steaming south to join the Oz and US off the south-west corner of Oz..

gerber wrote:.................................

I thank you for that.  But i am not all perturbed by comments from a loner.    

 

  

PUT your stupid head back in your bong == there's a nice little stoner !!!

THE Gerbil attacked me (in some irrational rabid support for his equally stoned chum, the fraudulent "Stephenmarra") first people's ~ over Tuesday and Wednesday.

Why, I don't have the faintest idea, as I hadn't even said boo! to him..

Then again, you should be "perturbed", you useless and empty-headed little self-medicating pothead ~ as I have your true measure now..  ::gnslnger:: 

Sassy wrote:........................  

26 countries are involved.   All of them using the highest tech possible.  

 

BULLSHIT...

YOU have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about...

Australia is conducting the search.
The US and NZ are helping.
China and India are adding ships..

YOUR claim of "26 countries" is pure and utter bullshit !

AND only FOUR countries have the "highest level" of technology down here ~ the USA, Oz, NZ and Japan.

ONLY Sassy knows why she keeps on spouting her lies...   

Twenty-six countries are now involved in the search for missing flight MH370, which extends over an area of 2.97 million sq miles or 7.68 million sq km.

The search operation, which began after the plane disappeared on 8 March, is being co-ordinated by the Malaysian authorities, who are also liaising with the FBI, Interpol and other international law enforcement agencies.

Some 26 countries have joined the search and, as of 20 March, 29 aircraft, 18 ships, and six ship-borne helicopters were in action.

The southern search has been divided into seven areas, each measuring 400 nautical miles by 400 nautical miles - or 160,000 sq nautical miles in total.

Some of the countries taking part in the south include Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand, China, the US, South Korea, Japan, the UAE and the UK.

Countries along the northern arc have also been contacted by Malaysian authorities for assistance and many, including China, have committed resources.

However, as of 20 March, just four aircraft were taking part in the search along the northern search arc. All ships were helping in the hunt to the south.

Meanwhile, British company Inmarsat collated the data which showed the plane had continued flying long after its communication systems were turned off. Two scientists from the company have been sent to Kuala Lumpur to help with the search.

Members of China's Civil Aviation Administration have joined the investigations team, as have officials from the France's Office of Investigations and Analysis for the Safety of Civil Aviation. The French are hoping to lend expertise from the two-year search for an Air France jet that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009.
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What key equipment is being used?

Aircraft, ships and satellites from across the world are being used as part of the mission to track down flight MH370.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26514556

I suggest you go and see a psychiatrist Bee, you are becoming more and more deranged.

Sassy wrote:They were given it at the beginning of the 21st and it was taken at the end of the 18th.  

26 countries are involved.   All of them using the highest tech possible.   Don't start the american clap trap, it couldn't be handled any faster because of the size of the area.  

Yes, it took from the 18th to the 21st to accomplish the simple task of faxing a photo to Malaysia!  That's three days, and then an extra day in the debriefing room.  All this, while the debris is floating hundreds of miles over an angry sea.  These guys have difficulty cooperating with one another, doesn't it seem?

That wouldn't happen in America.  Just because you hate America is no reason to knock America's capabilities and efficiency, sassy.  We get things done.

The Chinese and Malaysians distrust each other so much they won't even share satellite data for three days.  And this is a humanitarian mission, not wartime.  That photo would have been rolling out of the cockpit fax machine of the American P-8's within 2-minutes, not four days.

You stupid man. Once they had taken the satellite photo it had to go through lots of verification processes to make sure that it could be a piece of the plane, otherwise they would be sending them on all kinds of wild goose chases after thousands of bits of debris. FGS!

Sassy wrote:You stupid man. Once they had taken the satellite photo it had to go through lots of verification processes to make sure that it could be a piece of the plane, otherwise they would be sending them on all kinds of wild goose chases after thousands of bits of debris. FGS!

One thing we can verify for a fact is that the debris floated randomly over a thousand miles while those cretins were withholding satellite photos from one another.

Now Americans are sensible enough to figure out that time is of essence. That photo, verified on no, would have been in the cockpits of American P-8's within 2-minutes.

Blah blah blah.  Would be if you were in charge and you'd send them after every bit of flotsam and jetsum in an area bigger than Australia and they would never find anything.

This from a man who can't even apologise for telling lies about a friend and runs away like a coward.   That's what you are good at Quill, as an American.

Much as you hate America, Sassy...your prejudices are misplaced here. This is a humanitarian mission, inappropriate for your bitterness and bile. You needn't share your rancor around every corner, and at every opportunity...for one thing, it gets old.

And "Blah blah blah" is an apt description for what the Chinese and Malaysians are doing to each other.

Perhaps is time for the more temperate and civilized nations to leave the others out of the process, and concentrate on getting things done. If they don't care about their own nationals, nevertheless we care about ours.

The thing that is misplaced is your boasting about 'what America would do' etc, when they are one of the 26 countries involved and have been all along.

This is an impossible task over a huge area and all the countries are helping each other, it is a international search, as the post said:

Some of the countries taking part in the south include Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand, China, the US, South Korea, Japan, the UAE and the UK.

And your last sentence was disgusting. But then, you have proved yourself to be no gentleman.

You're losing it sassy. When you get in these moods, I get bored.

Have a good night.

 

Sassy lost the plot hours ago...

She's been making up fairytales for several pages now..

Methinks she's got her hands on some pretty potent hydro' whacky tobacky this week !    

The only thing people are doing is laughing at you Bee, with your demented rantings, as all my information has been posted from the BBC and Sky, so obviously not 'made up'. You're like a wind up toy, only unfortunately you think you are human. Where's your nearest psychiatrist, because you really need one quickly.

Original Quill wrote:You're losing it sassy.  When you get in these moods, I get bored.

Have a good night.

That's your trouble, cut and run. I'm not in any mood, you were the one doing the boasting about what America would do, which as they are involved and have been for some time, is patently ludicrous.

What is the bloody problem here?
Isn't sassy posting from news articles?

If any of to you think they're wrong why don't you contact Sky or the BBC and take it up with them?

eddie wrote:What is the bloody problem here?
Isn't sassy posting from news articles?

If any of to you think they're wrong why don't you contact Sky or the BBC and take it up with them?

Bee's just being a fuckwit basically Eddie, but then when he says Gerbs is a stoner or something you know he has completely lost the plot and he didn't have much of one to start with.   

Sassy wrote:

eddie wrote:What is the bloody problem here?
Isn't sassy posting from news articles?

If any of to you think they're wrong why don't you contact Sky or the BBC and take it up with them?

Bee's just being a fuckwit basically Eddie, but then when he says Gerbs is a stoner or something you know he has completely lost the plot and he didn't have much of one to start with.   

Gerbs is a she for a start lol and a stoner?   

Original Quill wrote:

Sassy wrote:You stupid man. Once they had taken the satellite photo it had to go through lots of verification processes to make sure that it could be a piece of the plane, otherwise they would be sending them on all kinds of wild goose chases after thousands of bits of debris. FGS!

One thing we can verify for a fact is that the debris floated randomly over a thousand miles while those cretins were withholding satellite photos from one another.

Now Americans are sensible enough to figure out that time is of essence.  That photo, verified on no, would have been in the cockpits of American P-8's within 2-minutes.

If you think that then you have absolutely no idea what a painstaking process it is to search through thousands of frames of images picked up by a satellite.

It takes a lot of time and effort to go through all the data just looking for one frame that may produce something that could ever be considered as credible evidence.

This was what Digital Globe published when the first lot of debris in that area was found.

DigitalGlobe today confirmed that it provided the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) with the satellite images that appear to show debris that may be related to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which has been missing for 12 days and counting. The satellite images were captured on March 16 by our WorldView-2 satellite at a resolution of approximately 50 cm. Working with our customers, DigitalGlobe continues to task our satellites to collect imagery of a wide area that includes the waters around where the possible debris was identified yesterday.

Given the extraordinary size of the current search area, the lengthy duration of the analysis effort was to be expected. Our constellation of five high-resolution imaging satellites captures more than 3 million square kilometers of earth imagery each day, and this volume of imagery is far too vast to search through in real time without an idea of where to look. We have been applying our satellite resources over a broader area than the official search area, while only focusing the efforts of our Tomnod crowdsourcing volunteers on the search areas identified by authorities. The efforts of millions of online volunteers around the world allowed us to rule out broad swaths of ocean with some certainty.

In the meantime, other customers including the U.S. government and other governments have been receiving our imagery for their own search efforts. Based on our understanding, the search area expanded to the southern Indian Ocean region and waters near Australia only in the last few days, at which time the Australian government started combing through imagery of this extremely large area.

No conclusions have been reached about the origins of the debris or objects shown in the imagery, and we are not aware that any subsequent search missions have been able to locate it. But the experience again demonstrates the unparalleled geographic reach and persistence that satellite imagery provides for critical government missions and emergency response situations.

Our thoughts go out to the families and communities of those affected by this tragic situation, and DigitalGlobe will continue our support of this recovery effort in accordance with our purpose of Seeing a Better World™.

http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/

Digital Globe Inc, Colorado, USA supplied the images to the Australian's and the US government.

I expect the Chinese had the same amount of information to filter.