UPDATE: Malaysian P.M. says wreckage in satellite images was missing Malaysian flight

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In what officials called the "best lead" of the nearly two-week-old aviation mystery, a satellite detected two objects floating about 1,000 miles off the coast of Australia and halfway to the desolate islands of the Antarctic.
The development raised new hope of finding the vanished jet and sent another emotional jolt to the families of the 239 people aboard.

Sarah Bajc, whose boyfriend, American Philip Wood, was aboard the plane, is one of those anxiously awaiting news.

"I'm desperate to hear it is an airplane wing and there are survivors clinging to it, and one of them is Philip," she told CBS News by email. "I'm apprehensive it will be unrelated and the wait will just continue after many more hours of misery."

"I am prepared for dead bodies," she wrote, "but I am not prepared for never knowing."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-possible-debris-from-missing-plane-spotted/

UPDATE link: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

So it was also supplied to the US government? So much for it being in the cockpit of a US jet in 2 minutes.

The search area is so vast that to find just one frame from the thousands of frames supplied showing just one possible credible sighting takes a lot of time and a lot of effort by so many people.

Well, anyone who actually realised how big the search area is, and the conditions there, would have realised how many frames etc would have had to be filtered, how many false hopes discarded, before they could say that there was something worth looking for.

     TUESDAY : Chinese supply satellite photo's and info' to Australia and America, Australia launches first Orion sweeps  (2 countries..)

WEDNESDAY : American and Kiwi planes join Aussies (4 countries)

THURSDAY : Malaysia "formally" hands over control of search to Australia, (pity they didn't do so a week earlier !).

FRIDAY : India has a couple of ships out in their territorial, and international waters;
China has three ships heading South - not here yet;
Japan is sending one ship..   (That's six countries involved in the actual search area, by my count..).

TWO commercial satellites were seconded during the week, and two freighters in the search area have also joined in the search ~ but those are company/corporate resources - not government; some people might count each as a separate country, but I didn't. (Even then, the total is still only 10..)

SEVERAL more countries are sending ships and resources to the search area, but they won't even be here for another couple of days, or more.    

Missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370: Search efforts intensify as floating pallet spotted in Indian Ocean

Over 25 countries have combined resources to help search for the missing 239 people on board missing jet MH370 (Picture: AP Photo/Lai Seng Sin)

Search efforts for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet have been redoubled after a search plane spotted a pallet and other floating objects in a remote area of the southern Indian Ocean.

Extra ships and planes have been scrambled to help identify the debris and determine whether it came from the Boeing-777 or a shipping container.

Although the search plane did not have a chance to closely examine the pallet when it was spotted yesterday, authorities are starting to feel upbeat.

Search efforts were redoubled on Sunday morning after a New Zealand search aircraft spotted new floating debris in the southern Indian Ocean

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/23/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-search-efforts-intensify-as-floating-pallet-spotted-in-indian-ocean-4673650/

Coupled with:

France on Sunday provided Malaysia with satellite images of objects that could be from a passenger jet that went missing more than two weeks ago, the latest word of such images that officials are hoping will help solve one of the world's great aviation mysteries.

A statement from Malaysia's Ministry of Transport said Malaysia received the images from "French authorities showing potential objects in the vicinity of the southern corridor."

That is thought to be close to areas of the Indian Ocean where Australia and China provided satellite images of objects that could be debris from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370,

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh370-search-french-satellite-images-provide-more-hope-1.2583254

It seems they are finding quite a lot of debris in that corridor, still a huge area to search, but hopefully it will all come to something.

Sassy wrote:Missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370: Search efforts intensify as floating pallet spotted in Indian Ocean

Over 25 countries have combined resources to help search for the missing 239 people on board missing jet MH370 (Picture: AP Photo/Lai Seng Sin)

Search efforts for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet have been redoubled after a search plane spotted a pallet and other floating objects in a remote area of the southern Indian Ocean.

Extra ships and planes have been scrambled to help identify the debris and determine whether it came from the Boeing-777 or a shipping container.

Although the search plane did not have a chance to closely examine the pallet when it was spotted yesterday, authorities are starting to feel upbeat.

Search efforts were redoubled on Sunday morning after a New Zealand search aircraft spotted new floating debris in the southern Indian Ocean

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/23/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-search-efforts-intensify-as-floating-pallet-spotted-in-indian-ocean-4673650/

Coupled with:

France on Sunday provided Malaysia with satellite images of objects that could be from a passenger jet that went missing more than two weeks ago, the latest word of such images that officials are hoping will help solve one of the world's great aviation mysteries.

A statement from Malaysia's Ministry of Transport said Malaysia received the images from "French authorities showing potential objects in the vicinity of the southern corridor."

That is thought to be close to areas of the Indian Ocean where Australia and China provided satellite images of objects that could be debris from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370,

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh370-search-french-satellite-images-provide-more-hope-1.2583254

It seems they are finding quite a lot of debris in that corridor, still a huge area to search, but hopefully it will all come to something.

I hope so to but cannot fathom why fly so far and then crash......

Me neither Gerbs, and they will only find that out if they find the black box. Chances of finding that are pretty negligable.

Pallets are not an indication of an aircraft. Pallets are not used in aircraft; I believe the 777 uses containers.

Now it is day 15 and they must look for two search sites, at least. First, they must find the debris field, if they actually locate it. Second, they must locate, from what little data can be derived from winds, tides, etc., where the aircraft went down. They have to work backwards from where they find floating debris. Then, and only then, they might find the flight data recorder.

But, since the ocean floor ranges from 13,000-feet to 25,000-feet in depth, they might never find it.

They need some luck.

From the same link:

The floating pallet was surrounded by several other objects including what appeared to be strapping belts of different colours, according to the aircraft from New Zealand that spotted it.

Malaysian authorities were unable to confirm whether flight MH370 was carrying any pallets and Mike Barton of the Australian Maritime Safety Authority was keen to emphasise his reservations.

‘We went to some of the expert airlines and the use of wooden pallets is quite common in the industry,’ he said.

‘It’s a possible lead, but we will need to be very certain that this is a pallet because pallets are used in the shipping industry as well.’
.........

Obviously they have to find it before they know if it was used in the aircraft or not.

gerber wrote:

Sassy wrote:Missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370: Search efforts intensify as floating pallet spotted in Indian Ocean

Over 25 countries have combined resources to help search for the missing 239 people on board missing jet MH370 (Picture: AP Photo/Lai Seng Sin)

Search efforts for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet have been redoubled after a search plane spotted a pallet and other floating objects in a remote area of the southern Indian Ocean.

Extra ships and planes have been scrambled to help identify the debris and determine whether it came from the Boeing-777 or a shipping container.

Although the search plane did not have a chance to closely examine the pallet when it was spotted yesterday, authorities are starting to feel upbeat.

Search efforts were redoubled on Sunday morning after a New Zealand search aircraft spotted new floating debris in the southern Indian Ocean

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/23/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-search-efforts-intensify-as-floating-pallet-spotted-in-indian-ocean-4673650/

Coupled with:

France on Sunday provided Malaysia with satellite images of objects that could be from a passenger jet that went missing more than two weeks ago, the latest word of such images that officials are hoping will help solve one of the world's great aviation mysteries.

A statement from Malaysia's Ministry of Transport said Malaysia received the images from "French authorities showing potential objects in the vicinity of the southern corridor."

That is thought to be close to areas of the Indian Ocean where Australia and China provided satellite images of objects that could be debris from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370,

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh370-search-french-satellite-images-provide-more-hope-1.2583254

It seems they are finding quite a lot of debris in that corridor, still a huge area to search, but hopefully it will all come to something.

I hope so to but cannot fathom why fly so far and then crash......

perhaps it was a hijacking and the passengers staged some sort of attack or the plans for getting away with tthe plane went wrong so they aborted it..

All speculation.   But now they have seen three very large pieces of debris in the same area and the 'bits and bobs'.

Perfectly possible that something went wrong, they turned to go back to Malaysia, the crew and passengers died and the plane flew on auto pilot until it ran out of fuel.   If it did go down in that area, that is were the fuel would have run out.

Sassy wrote:From the same link:

The floating pallet was surrounded by several other objects including what appeared to be strapping belts of different colours, according to the aircraft from New Zealand that spotted it.

Malaysian authorities were unable to confirm whether flight MH370 was carrying any pallets and Mike Barton of the Australian Maritime Safety Authority was keen to emphasise his reservations.

‘We went to some of the expert airlines and the use of wooden pallets is quite common in the industry,’ he said.

‘It’s a possible lead, but we will need to be very certain that this is a pallet because pallets are used in the shipping industry as well.’
.........

Obviously they have to find it before they know if it was used in the aircraft or not.    

Exactly. And they may have something for aircraft called 'pallets' on the analogy they serve the same purpose as in shipping and warehousing. But the flat wooden pallets they use with forklifts in warehouses would simply bounce around in airplane bays.

It is also possible that debris could mix together in ocean currents and vortices.

I would image that's what the strapping was for that they found, to tie them down.

They are probably on the lookout for pallet nets as well if they have seen pallets:

Pallet Nets
Pallet nets are critical to aircraft integrity – only the best will do.

The pallet net is a certified form of textile restraint that, at any point during its life, may be called on to instantly restrain up to 6.8 tons at 3g and thus protect the integrity of an aircraft. For this reason, our pallet nets are designed to exceed the stringent requirements of the FAA and EASA.

Our knotless nets exemplify AmSafe’s commitment to innovation and its position as the leading global provider of engineered air cargo restraint solutions. This design both maximizes the strength-to-weight ratio and ensures that our nets can easily be repaired. When coupled with our proprietary anti-abrasive process, which extends the net life, the knotless construction also reduces snagging, enabling faster build-up times for loads compared to other nets.

http://www.amsafe.com/products-services/commercial-aviation/cargo-airframe-products/pallet-nets/

Pictures of the loaded wooden pallets on the link. Exactly like any other pallet.

MONDAY UPDATES...

* As well as those 6-7 countries actively searching in Oz waters, listed above in my previous entries, plus private intrenational resoures (maybe 10-11 countries - allowing for some "flexible thinking" in there..) noted previously, we can now also add ~

* Private Aussie planes, inc. two corporate 'super jets' with triple the range of typical search aircraft, had joined the search on Friday, with groups of civilian and emergency spotter crews;

* There were teams of people from Britain, Canada, China and Japan at the airforce base since Friday, plus some Malaysian liaison people ~ but NO planes or ships from those countries had yet arrived over here and joined the search, as of Sunday..

* The Pentagon was still considering over the weekend whether to send over some deep diving euipment, if the reckage is found...

THIS is still only 13-14 countries actively involved in the search in Aussie waters (though more are on their ways..);

* AND the aircraft being used remain the Aussie, NZ and US resources.


ONLY Sassy knows why Sassy keeps on spouting her nationalist lies and b/s on these threads !

Sassy wrote:I would image that's what the strapping was for that they found, to tie them down.

They are probably on the lookout for pallet nets as well if they have seen pallets:

Pallet Nets
Pallet nets are critical to aircraft integrity – only the best will do.

The pallet net is a certified form of textile restraint that, at any point during its life, may be called on to instantly restrain up to 6.8 tons at 3g and thus protect the integrity of an aircraft. For this reason, our pallet nets are designed to exceed the stringent requirements of the FAA and EASA.

Our knotless nets exemplify AmSafe’s commitment to innovation and its position as the leading global provider of engineered air cargo restraint solutions. This design both maximizes the strength-to-weight ratio and ensures that our nets can easily be repaired. When coupled with our proprietary anti-abrasive process, which extends the net life, the knotless construction also reduces snagging, enabling faster build-up times for loads compared to other nets.

http://www.amsafe.com/products-services/commercial-aviation/cargo-airframe-products/pallet-nets/

Pictures of the loaded wooden pallets on the link. Exactly like any other pallet.

Meh, pallet nets are Korean War vintage. Maybe they were used in some C-130s, but they are pretty much a thing of the past. I remember seeing them in some C-47s when I flew MATS around Europe. Like this:



It was a converted old Douglas passenger ship. But the old pallet nets were dangerous in that they allowed in-flight load shifting.

In a fly-by-wire aircraft that is only 11-years old...doubtful.

Perhaps you had better read the link and bring yourself up to date.

Until they actually find the debris, we will know nothing. Even the odds of finding the whole debris field in tact today are remote.

When and if we do find the proper debris field, it would be highly speculative today to locate the actual crash site. We need a lot of luck.

Lone Wolf wrote:

MY 'HOME TRUTHS'     vs    SASSY'S LIES :

     TUESDAY : Chinese supply satellite photo's and info' to Australia and America, Australia launches first Orion sweeps  (2 countries..)

WEDNESDAY : American and Kiwi planes join Aussies (4 countries)

THURSDAY : Malaysia "formally" hands over control of search to Australia, (pity they didn't do so a week earlier !).

FRIDAY : India has a couple of ships out in their territorial, and international waters;
China has three ships heading South - not here yet;
Japan is sending one ship..   (That's six countries involved in the actual search area, by my count..).

TWO commercial satellites were seconded during the week, and two freighters in the search area have also joined in the search ~ but those are company/corporate resources - not government; some people might count each as a separate country, but I didn't.   (Even then, the total is still only 10..)

SEVERAL more countries are sending ships and resources to the search area, but they won't even be here for another couple of days, or more.    

What lies have been told Bee?

And it made perfect sense to hand over the control of the search are of the Southern corridor to Australia but what difference would it have made if it had been handed over a few days earlier?

Using pallets in the lower cargo deck is quite common in the airline industry including on the Boeing fleet.
Cargo provides an important revenue to airlines and providing the pallets and containers used are loaded stored and belted up in accordance with IATA standards then there is no problem.

 
Over the past two weeks she has adamantly and forcibly claimed :

* That Malaysia and Malaysians are "sophisticated" and well educated;

* That there are (apparently !) ships and aircraft from "26 countries" involved in the search over here ~ when the reality is that less than half that number are actually down here ~ AND the fact is it is still only Oz, the US and NZ that actually had planes in the air here, at that time !

* Sassy also had ships from several countries already on the water and searching down here ~ even though most of them haven't even arrived here yet !    

* Sassy also falsely claimed that everyone has access to the same top-level technology that the US/Oz/NZ/Canada has ~ yet another outright lie on sassy's part..

* AND Sassy still fails to admit that Australia had to take control of the search last Thursday ~ AFTER Malaysia had shamefully failed to get off their corrupt slimy hands for the first 11 days..


SO, HOW's THAT just for starters ?!?  

Lone Wolf wrote:   

SASSY'S LIES ?!?  Where do I start ?

Over the past two weeks she has adamantly and forcibly claimed :

* That Malaysia and Malaysians are "sophisticated" and well educated;

* That there are (apparently !) ships and aircraft from "26 countries" involved in the search over here ~ when the reality is that less than half that number are actually down here ~ AND the fact is it is still only Oz, the US and NZ that actually had planes in the air here, at that time !

* Sassy also had ships from several countries already on the water and searching down here ~ even though most of them haven't even arrived here yet !    

* Sassy also falsely claimed that everyone has access to the same top-level technology that the US/Oz/NZ/Canada has ~ yet another outright lie on sassy's part..

* AND Sassy still fails to admit that Australia had to take control of the search last Thursday ~ AFTER Malaysia had shamefully failed to get off their corrupt slimy hands for the first 11 days..


SO, HOW's THAT just for starters ?!?  

Can't see where that was said or in what context anything like that may have been said.

I remember it being said that Malaysia had a sophisticated radar system and that Kuala Lumpur and many areas in the far east were sophisticated and that the Malaysian healthcare system was excellent but nothing else near to anything like what you have quoted above.
I think it's only fair that you show the actual part in the posts that have been made to support all what what you claim because that's the only real way of establishing what is truth and what are lies.
Fair enough?

And you didn't say what difference it would have made if the Malaysians had handed over control of the southern corridor search area to the Australians a few days earlier so maybe you could also address that in your reply as well.

Do you think this whole incident flies in the face, pardon the pun, of everything we are told of safety procedures, electronic tracking, equipment on modern planes...etc..

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:Do you think this whole incident flies in the face, pardon the pun, of everything we are told of safety procedures, electronic tracking, equipment on modern planes...etc..

No, I think it's more to do with human behaviour and the way that people who have control of these systems use them in a way that they are not supposed to.

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:Do you think this whole incident flies in the face, pardon the pun, of everything we are told of safety procedures, electronic tracking, equipment on modern planes...etc..

No, I think it's more to do with human behaviour and the way that people who have control of these systems use them in a way that they are not supposed to.

well you can never fully allow for the human equation I agree but the idea we are tracked in the air, they know the height, speed, direction etc, yet we lost a plane seemingly so easily...

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:Do you think this whole incident flies in the face, pardon the pun, of everything we are told of safety procedures, electronic tracking, equipment on modern planes...etc..

No, I think it's more to do with human behaviour and the way that people who have control of these systems use them in a way that they are not supposed to.

well you can never fully allow for the human equation I agree but the idea we are tracked in the air, they know the height, speed, direction etc, yet we lost a plane seemingly so easily...

It was lost because of the way that those in control of the aircraft at the time used the equipment available to them in a way that they are not supposed to. Whether it was by choice or under threat remains to be seen. We may have a very long wait to find out.

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

well you can never fully allow for the human equation I agree but the idea we are tracked in the air, they know the height, speed, direction etc, yet we lost a plane seemingly so easily...

It was lost because of the way that those in control of the aircraft at the time used the equipment available to them in a way that they are not supposed to. Whether it was by choice or under threat remains to be seen. We may have a very long wait to find out.

The idea that two transponders can be switched off seems ludicrous..

I agree, we may never find out what really happened even if they do find any wreckage or anything else for that matter..

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

well you can never fully allow for the human equation I agree but the idea we are tracked in the air, they know the height, speed, direction etc, yet we lost a plane seemingly so easily...

It was lost because of the way that those in control of the aircraft at the time used the equipment available to them in a way that they are not supposed to. Whether it was by choice or under threat remains to be seen. We may have a very long wait to find out.

The idea that two transponders can be switched off seems ludicrous..

I agree, we may never find out what really happened even if they do find any wreckage or anything else for that matter..

Transponders can be switched off because that can malfunction and send out incorrect readings or cause a short circuit and a possible fire hazard.

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

The idea that two transponders can be switched off seems ludicrous..

I agree, we may never find out what really happened even if they do find any wreckage or anything else for that matter..

Transponders can be switched off because that can malfunction and send out incorrect readings or cause a short circuit and a possible fire hazard.

surely the chance of two on separate circuits going wrong is almost negligible, especially compared to knowing where the plane is among other traffic...

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

The idea that two transponders can be switched off seems ludicrous..

I agree, we may never find out what really happened even if they do find any wreckage or anything else for that matter..

Transponders can be switched off because that can malfunction and send out incorrect readings or cause a short circuit and a possible fire hazard.

surely the chance of two on separate circuits going wrong is almost negligible, especially compared to knowing where the plane is among other traffic...

Both being turned turned off is down to the human behaviour element.

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

surely the chance of two on separate circuits going wrong is almost negligible, especially compared to knowing where the plane is among other traffic...

Both being turned turned off is down to the human behaviour element.

yes granted but the logic behind them being able to be switched off is crazy...

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

surely the chance of two on separate circuits going wrong is almost negligible, especially compared to knowing where the plane is among other traffic...

Both being turned turned off is down to the human behaviour element.

yes granted but the logic behind them being able to be switched off is crazy...

I thought that had been explained?

Four New Objects Sighted From Air
12:10pm UK, Monday 24 March 2014
The HMAS Success is within the Indian Ocean search area and may retrieve the four objects within the next few hours.

An Australian plane searching for missing flight MH370 has located four further objects within the search area.

The objects were spotted about 1550 miles south-west of Perth by a Royal Australian Air Force P3 Orion aircraft.

"I caution ... that we don't know whether any of these objects are from MH370, they could be flotsam," Australia's Prime Minister Tony Abbott told parliament.

"Nevertheless, we are hopeful that we can recover these objects soon and they will take us a step closer to resolving this tragic mystery."

The Australian military ship HMAS Success is the only vessel currently within the search area. The vessel will try to retrieve the items over the next few hours.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority said the entire crew of HMAS Success is keeping a lookout for the objects.

Mr Abbott said a US Navy Poseidon, a second Royal Australian Orion and a Japanese Orion are also en route to the area.

The objects are separate from several "suspicious" floating objects sighted by a Chinese search plane earlier today.

The crew of the military Ilyushin-76 aircraft saw "white and square" objects dispersed over several miles in the southern Indian Ocean.

They included two "relatively big" objects and several smaller ones.

The objects cited by the Chinese were seen near an area identified by satellite imagery as containing possible debris from the missing airliner.

A Chinese military plane had earlier set off from Perth to find "suspicious debris" captured by satellite imagery in the remote waters.

The US Navy has also announced it is sending one of its high-tech black box detectors to the southern Indian Ocean.

The towed pinger locator, which is pulled behind a vessel at slow speeds, has highly sensitive listening capability so that if the wreck site is located, it can hear the black box pinger down to a depth of about 20,000ft (6,100 metres).

The navy called the move a "precautionary measure" in case those sightings confirm the location of the aircraft which disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board.

US Seventh Fleet Operations Officer Commander Chris Budde said in a statement: "If debris is found we will be able to respond as quickly as possible since the battery life of the black box's pinger is limited."

http://news.sky.com/story/1230886/malaysia-jet-four-new-objects-sighted-from-air


Certainly sounds hopeful. Not the news the relatives would have wanted though.

Irn Bru wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

yes granted but the logic behind them being able to be switched off is crazy...

I thought that had been explained?

it had in a way just not a way that made a great deal of sense..

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

I thought that had been explained?

it had in a way just not a way that made a great deal of sense..

It made perfect sense, you just didn't want it to.

Sassy wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

it had in a way just not a way that made a great deal of sense..

It made perfect sense, you just didn't want it to.

being able to turn off two individual systems in case of fire, which i guess the chances of the both being a problem would be almost nil, compared to being able to always track and aircraft through the various corridors safely or track a hijacked or damaged aircraft makes sense...

It might to you...

Yes it might be a low chance of fire, but in an aircraft they have to think of every chance of fire, because there is more likely to be a fire than a hijacking.

Can we get back to what is happening in the search please?

 

* A French satellite provided more images yesterday morning (Monday, AEDT);

* More debris was spotted yesterday Aussie time/still "today" British time by a private Aussie plane with both military and civilian spotters on board; AND by a Chinese plane now searching over Australian territorial waters;

* An Aussie warship is currently heading into the search area, hoping to retrieve that debris
~ and find out IF it is indeed from the missing plane.


Only Sassy knows why Sassy has to keep on spouting her lying Anti_Australia sprays on here !!!

You are totally out of date.

Four New Objects Sighted From Air
12:10pm UK, Monday 24 March 2014
The HMAS Success is within the Indian Ocean search area and may retrieve the four objects within the next few hours.

An Australian plane searching for missing flight MH370 has located four further objects within the search area.

The objects were spotted about 1550 miles south-west of Perth by a Royal Australian Air Force P3 Orion aircraft.

"I caution ... that we don't know whether any of these objects are from MH370, they could be flotsam," Australia's Prime Minister Tony Abbott told parliament.

"Nevertheless, we are hopeful that we can recover these objects soon and they will take us a step closer to resolving this tragic mystery."

The Australian military ship HMAS Success is the only vessel currently within the search area. The vessel will try to retrieve the items over the next few hours.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority said the entire crew of HMAS Success is keeping a lookout for the objects.

Mr Abbott said a US Navy Poseidon, a second Royal Australian Orion and a Japanese Orion are also en route to the area.

The objects are separate from several "suspicious" floating objects sighted by a Chinese search plane earlier today.

The crew of the military Ilyushin-76 aircraft saw "white and square" objects dispersed over several miles in the southern Indian Ocean.

They included two "relatively big" objects and several smaller ones.

The objects cited by the Chinese were seen near an area identified by satellite imagery as containing possible debris from the missing airliner.

A Chinese military plane had earlier set off from Perth to find "suspicious debris" captured by satellite imagery in the remote waters.

The US Navy has also announced it is sending one of its high-tech black box detectors to the southern Indian Ocean.

The towed pinger locator, which is pulled behind a vessel at slow speeds, has highly sensitive listening capability so that if the wreck site is located, it can hear the black box pinger down to a depth of about 20,000ft (6,100 metres).

The navy called the move a "precautionary measure" in case those sightings confirm the location of the aircraft which disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board.

US Seventh Fleet Operations Officer Commander Chris Budde said in a statement: "If debris is found we will be able to respond as quickly as possible since the battery life of the black box's pinger is limited."

http://news.sky.com/story/1230886/malaysia-jet-four-new-objects-sighted-from-air

 

MY information is only three-four hours old (Monday night, AEDT..).

STOP spouting your lying bullshit, you demented old hag..

You're so full of nationalistic crap !   

Missing Jet Families 'To Be Taken To Australia'
1:32pm UK, Monday 24 March 2014

Relatives of the passengers on the missing Malaysia Airlines plane have been called to an emergency meeting with the company.

It comes as Chinese media reported the families will be taken from Beijing to Australia after more objects were spotted in the search area in the southern Indian Ocean.

The Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak is to hold a news conference at 2pm on the latest developments, which will be shown live on Sky News.

The new objects were sighted about 1,550 miles south-west of Perth by a Royal Australian Air Force P3 Orion aircraft.

"I caution ... that we don't know whether any of these objects are from MH370, they could be flotsam," Australia's Prime Minister Tony Abbott told parliament.

"Nevertheless, we are hopeful that we can recover these objects soon and they will take us a step closer to resolving this tragic mystery."

The Australian military ship HMAS Success is the only vessel currently within the search area. The vessel will try to retrieve the items over the next few hours.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority said the entire crew of HMAS Success is keeping a lookout for the objects.

Mr Abbott said a US Navy Poseidon, a second Royal Australian Orion and a Japanese Orion are also en route to the area.

The objects are separate from several "suspicious" floating objects sighted by a Chinese search plane earlier today.

The crew of the military Ilyushin-76 aircraft saw "white and square" objects dispersed over several miles in the southern Indian Ocean.

They included two "relatively big" objects and several smaller ones.

The objects cited by the Chinese were seen near an area identified by satellite imagery as containing possible debris from the missing airliner.

A Chinese military plane had earlier set off from Perth to find "suspicious debris" captured by satellite imagery in the remote waters.

The US Navy has also announced it is sending one of its high-tech black box detectors to the southern Indian Ocean.

The towed pinger locator, which is pulled behind a vessel at slow speeds, has highly sensitive listening capability so that if the wreck site is located, it can hear the black box pinger down to a depth of about 20,000ft (6,100 metres).

The navy called the move a "precautionary measure" in case those sightings confirm the location of the aircraft which disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board.

US Seventh Fleet Operations Officer Commander Chris Budde said in a statement: "If debris is found we will be able to respond as quickly as possible since the battery life of the black box's pinger is limited."

http://news.sky.com/story/1230886/missing-jet-families-to-be-taken-to-australia

Seems the news was as expected and terrible for the families and friends of all those on board.

RIP Flight MA307

Yes, the government of Malaysia has confirmed as of Monday morning PST there is no chance for survival. Of course, the chances that flight 730 landed were always slim and none.

According to British technology--known as the AAIB system--the Airplane pursued one of two courses into the south Indian Ocean. Again, no islands or chance of landing. The crash site would be approximately 1,500 miles west of Perth, the debris having floated some 600-900-miles to the east.

So are we saying the Brits found it now, not the Australians, Malaysians or Russians?

Oh well, we have ruled the seas for hundreds of years.

what a sad and tragic end to it all, obviously it was never going to end well but bodies at least would have meant a real finality for these grieving families..
I hope they can move on and it is an old but true cliche, time is a great healer..
Our prayers will go out to their families, friends and loved ones and anyone this whole episode has effected..

I do hope they find the black box, and they are obviously doing all they can to find it. At least then the relatives will have some idea of what actually happened, otherwise they will just be left wondering. Poor things.

BigAndy9 wrote:So are we saying the Brits found it now, not the Australians, Malaysians or Russians?

Oh well, we have ruled the seas for hundreds of years.

Ya see, andy.  You don't give a shite about the emergency, or humanity, you are off in your own selfish world making nationalist arguments.  That is what has hindered this investigation from the start.

I believe that the advanced nations who manufacture these airplanes--and believe me, that leaves out Malaysia--should equip them with locators that can never be shut off, and by which the craft may be found anywhere in the world by GPS.  The technology exists, and the responsible world community have the right.  Aviation, like the Internet, involves the world as participants/passengers, and that gives us international jurisdiction.

Then we can thumb our noses at these petty, irresponsible nations who want to have a pissing match with China, Indonesia, or whatever, and vice-versa.

whats up with this bloke BEEKEEPER?he seems to think he's an expert on every thing,and why can he not post any thing without derogatory remarks to other posters?

It's called Care in the Community Nicko, in his case, it fails.

nicko wrote:whats up with this bloke BEEKEEPER?he seems to think he's an expert on every thing,and why can he not post any thing without derogatory remarks to other posters?

Well, he's got more of a lock on scientific questions than you do, Nicky. Bee has a B.Sci. degree from an accredited and highly acclaimed university in Australia.

Yes, there seem to be tensions. (See above^^^) But I have never known Bee to let that interfere, nor be wrong on technical matters.

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^^^ Confirming my point. It not Bee, but others.