Immigration: No More Pandering to Prejudice

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 5:35 am

Immigration is good. There, I've said it. Now I wait to be struck down by a thunder bolt.

A country that attracts immigrants is a healthy country. It boasts a growing economy, a stable society, and offers a safe environment for children to grow up in. Its people live under the rule of law, with freedom of speech and of religion. It's a country of which I'm immeasurably proud to be a citizen.

Without immigrants, Britain would be a much poorer place. It would be hungrier, dirtier and less healthy. It's immigrants who pick and pack the food that we eat, immigrants who clean our offices and streets, immigrants who keep the NHS going and care for the elderly in their homes and nursing homes. (A quarter of NHS doctors are non-British, and according to the British Medical Association, "many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care to their patients" without non-British staff.)

In many of our biggest towns and cities, it's immigrants and their British-born children who drive the buses, trains and taxis, and immigrants who serve us our early morning coffee on the way to work. If they all went on strike on the same day, the country would quickly grind to a stand-still.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/robin-lustig/immigration-prejudice_b_5411982.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Excellent article and I have seen a massive change in regards to many of these types of articles since UKIP won the EU election. The view has been to stop providing UKIP with mass media exposure with publicity with fear stories of their members and actually take the arguments to UKIP on their views, this article being yet one of many similar in the last few days.
This is the way forward to show to many people why UKIP are wrong, you play them at their own game and take the center of attention back away from them, which they strived for in the first place to win votes. This way is better, take on their policies and not them as people, it then shows the party is wrong and they cannot use excuses like some of their members are loonies, they are thus seen as a party as wrong.

by Ben Reilly Sat May 31, 2014 5:46 am

Awesome article. In general, migration is a natural and beneficial human habit and has been since the dawn of humanity. We literally wouldn't have survived without migrating: http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/human-migration3.htm

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 5:53 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Awesome article. In general, migration is a natural and beneficial human habit and has been since the dawn of humanity. We literally wouldn't have survived without migrating: http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/human-migration3.htm

Agreed Ben and as seen nobody can answer as to why they cannot get along with other people, all they offer is poor fear arguments, choosing to ignore many others do and can get along with many other people.
I see a turning point already, many are starting to get fed up with people spouting hate veiled poorly behind unfounded fear arguments and standing up to them, because they are not going to allow fear/loathing/hate to become a part of our great societies.

Happy days.

::D::

by Tommy Monk Sat May 31, 2014 6:47 am

Too much of anything is bad for you.....!!!!

And as far as immigration is concerned, we have definately had too much, in fact we are sick of it!!!!

We don't want or need any more immigrants!!!!!

They can stay at home or go elsewhere. We are full.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:52 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Too much of anything is bad for you.....!!!!
And as far as immigration is concerned, we have definately had too much, in fact we are sick of it!!!!
We don't want or need any more immigrants!!!!!
They can stay at home or go elsewhere. We are full.

So too much love is bad for you?
Too much kindness is bad for you?
Too much caring is bad for you?

Sorry you missed the last sign post at the last junction, it said turn left for ignorance.

We are not full as seen and it is idiots like you promoting hate and fear of people that are a problem, as seen countless times in history, who as seen again are nothing more than selfish brats. You do not own this country and harp on about you not being asked with respecting your views, well many others also have views, which as a majority outweigh yours, so why do you not respect their views?

Again as stated before:

The world is getting more and more populated which is the real problem that needs to be resolved, not people saying you cannot come and live on my piece of land, because I was here first, because as seen millions leave here to move to many different pieces of land also.
Thus the point should be on people looking to sort the global problem, because tackling a local problem, does not stop the bigger problem of a global population rise. If you cut yourself off from others, they can replicate the same back to this country whilst trading still with the rest of the world. Thus we do not have the luxury to close the door fully on immigration because we do not have the resources to support this country on its own.
Immigration needs controlling but not scapegoating them.

by Ben Reilly Sat May 31, 2014 6:54 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Too much of anything is bad for you.....!!!!

And as far as immigration is concerned, we have definately had too much, in fact we are sick of it!!!!

We don't want or need any more immigrants!!!!!

They can stay at home or go elsewhere. We are full.

You get what, a net two or three hundred thousand per year? Somebody call the WAAAAmbulance!

My advice -- grow up, stop basing your worldview on scare headlines, and ... grow up Smile

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 6:56 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Too much of anything is bad for you.....!!!!

And as far as immigration is concerned, we have definately had too much, in fact we are sick of it!!!!

We don't want or need any more immigrants!!!!!

They can stay at home or go elsewhere. We are full.

You get what, a net two or three hundred thousand per year? Somebody call the WAAAAmbulance!

My advice -- grow up, stop basing your worldview on scare headlines, and ... grow up

Officially declared best post of the month by unanimous decision.

cheers

by Tommy Monk Sat May 31, 2014 7:50 am

We do own this country and this land.

And we don't want or need anymore immigration.

This is a democracy, and the people have been clear......

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/britain-immigration-survey-idINDEEA0603G20140107

What bit of this do you not understand.....?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:56 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
We do own this country and this land.

And we don't want or need anymore immigration.

This is a democracy, and the people have been clear......

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/britain-immigration-survey-idINDEEA0603G20140107

What bit of this do you not understand.....?

Again like a child, "mummy, its my toy and nobody else can have it"

What bit of do you not understand you never learnt the valuable lesson taught by your parents on sharing?

No your argument is, "I am selfish and do not want anymore people in this country because I am a fuckwit, filled with ignorance and never learnt any English values of sharing"

You are one of 62 million people in this country, many get by in life not having their way, and as seen most of them disagree with your ignorance and spoilt behavior, they like me pity your selfish childish attitude.

You o not own this country, get over it!

by Tommy Monk Sat May 31, 2014 8:11 am

Read the link twat.

The people have spoken.

We don't want or need any more immigration.

Stay at home or go elsewhere.

Simple!

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:14 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Read the link twat.
The people have spoken.
We don't want or need any more immigration.
Stay at home or go elsewhere.
Simple!

No, wrong again, only some people have spoken, the majority disagree, which you will not accept and no doubt if you do not get your way, will scream and scream and scream until you are sick.
You are a selfish muppet thinking you can decide the fates of so many people off nothing more than ignorance.
You do not own this land, you can have a say, but as seen your say is one of being so clueless, who goes against good English values, where you think it is wrong to share.

by Tommy Monk Sat May 31, 2014 8:22 am

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/britain-immigration-survey-idINDEEA0603G20140107

We don't want or need any more immigration.

And We don't have to have it.

People can stay at home or go elsewhere..... big world out there!!!!!

Go somewhere else!!!!

Not that difficult is it?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:26 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/britain-immigration-survey-idINDEEA0603G20140107

We don't want or need any more immigration.

And We don't have to have it.

People can stay at home or go elsewhere..... big world out there!!!!!

Go somewhere else!!!!

Not that difficult is it?

So you prove you go against Christian and English values, not to share, what you advocate, which is seen in the bible, is more like the views of the devil, ironic that.

Agin you cannot answer who is "we"?
You cannot answer that we should not share or that we should not teach our children this and thus go into dumb mode of repeating yourself.

I have you by the balls every time you post and you know why Matti? Because you are clueless

Will he avoid the questions and points again?

Place your bets, he is one o 5 on favorites to do so again

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:29 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Too much of anything is bad for you.....!!!!

And as far as immigration is concerned, we have definately had too much, in fact we are sick of it!!!!

We don't want or need any more immigrants!!!!!

They can stay at home or go elsewhere. We are full.

You get what, a net two or three hundred thousand per year? Somebody call the WAAAAmbulance!

My advice -- grow up, stop basing your worldview on scare headlines, and ... grow up

Easy for you to say. living in a huge country like the USA. Britain is one small overcrowded island. Do the math.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:35 am

Tesstacious wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

You get what, a net two or three hundred thousand per year? Somebody call the WAAAAmbulance!

My advice -- grow up, stop basing your worldview on scare headlines, and ... grow up
Easy for you to say. living in a huge country like the USA. Britain is one small overcrowded island. Do the math.

Easy for you to say when you are an immigrant yourself who has not asked the Irish people if you can live there.
Irony at its best
::D::

Yes do the maths, 7% only urbanized, 93% not urbanized, can you count?

by The Puzzler Sat May 31, 2014 8:43 am

2.5 million unemployed, 500,000 jobs. THE biggest reason to be opposed to continued mass immigration, millions of Brits forced to rot on the dole because there just isn't enough work to go round.

by The Puzzler Sat May 31, 2014 8:45 am

Tesstacious wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

You get what, a net two or three hundred thousand per year? Somebody call the WAAAAmbulance!

My advice -- grow up, stop basing your worldview on scare headlines, and ... grow up
Easy for you to say. living in a huge country like the USA. Britain is one small overcrowded island. Do the math.

The USA's relationship with immigration is hardly all roses either, they have a big problem with Mexican cartels infiltrating border states, they've started publicly threatening the authorities now - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2637789/Threatening-cartel-billboards-warning-police-choose-silver-lead-come-complete-hanging-mannequins-appearing-Texas.html

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:48 am

The Puzzler wrote:2.5 million unemployed, 500,000 jobs. THE biggest reason to be opposed to continued mass immigration, millions of Brits forced to rot on the dole because there just isn't enough work to go round.

Irrelevant argument, as it is employers that employ people, not immigrants themselves that come here,
Britain's in many cases for years chose to be on the dole, because it was more viable to so so, where more to the point employers were crying out for help to fill place where many Brits chose to refuse to work.

Immigration should be controlled but not for the reasons you propose, because to propose only British is a form of apartheid.

by The Puzzler Sat May 31, 2014 8:53 am

Didge wrote:
The Puzzler wrote:2.5 million unemployed, 500,000 jobs. THE biggest reason to be opposed to continued mass immigration, millions of Brits forced to rot on the dole because there just isn't enough work to go round.

Irrelevant argument, as it is employers that employ people, not immigrants themselves that come here,
Britain's in many cases for years chose to be on the dole, because it was more viable to so so, where more to the point employers were crying out for help to fill place where many Brits chose to refuse to work.

Immigration should be controlled but not for the reasons you propose, because to propose only British is a form of apartheid.

British first, not only British. A sort of affirmative action type thing if you like. Without so many immigrants coming here(and it's not them I blame, it's successive governments since 1997 inflicting their social experiment on the public) and taking low level jobs, wages would gradually increase and Brits would start to fill those job vacancies. It's a chicken and egg thing, what came first the lazy Brits or the depressed wages and strangled job market? IMO it's a mix of both but continuing mass immigration like nothing's wrong is insane. And I'm far from alone which is why so many have switched their support from Liblabcon to UKIP.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:55 am

Oh by the way, unemployment is at 2.2 million.

by The Puzzler Sat May 31, 2014 8:59 am

Didge wrote:Oh by the way, unemployment is at 2.2 million.

Still 1.7 million more people than there are jobs available. Continued mass immigration just can't be sustained. At all.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:00 am

Tesstacious wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

You get what, a net two or three hundred thousand per year? Somebody call the WAAAAmbulance!

My advice -- grow up, stop basing your worldview on scare headlines, and ... grow up
Easy for you to say. living in a huge country like the USA. Britain is one small overcrowded island. Do the math.

Oh, and as for your figures... the stats bear NO resemblance to the reality. For instance:

"As many as 100,000 foreign students a year are thought to be staying on in Britain illegally after completing academic courses here. The students – believed to be mostly from the Indian sub-continent – come to Britain to attend universities and colleges, according to official immigration figures. But the Government’s tracking system has failed to find evidence that they ever left the country..."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2644428/100-000-foreign-students-missing-year-College-leavers-Asia-thought-living-Britain-illegally.html#ixzz33HIioyjL

Tip of the iceberg.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:03 am

Tesstacious wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:
Easy for you to say. living in a huge country like the USA. Britain is one small overcrowded island. Do the math.
Oh, and as for your figures... the stats bear NO resemblance to the reality. For instance:

"As many as 100,000 foreign students a year are thought to be staying on in Britain illegally after completing academic courses here. The students – believed to be mostly from the Indian sub-continent – come to Britain to attend universities and colleges, according to official immigration figures. But the Government’s tracking system has failed to find evidence that they ever left the country..."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2644428/100-000-foreign-students-missing-year-College-leavers-Asia-thought-living-Britain-illegally.html#ixzz33HIioyjL

Tip of the iceberg.

Wow, intelligent bright young people staying in this country to work, the horror.
Quick dial 999 Tess, we cannot have intelligent people here.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:04 am

The Puzzler wrote:
Didge wrote:Oh by the way, unemployment is at 2.2 million.
Still 1.7 million more people than there are jobs available. Continued mass immigration just can't be sustained. At all.

Daft reply again, how many of the unemployed will never seek work?

Take your time

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:07 am

The Puzzler wrote:
Didge wrote:

Irrelevant argument, as it is employers that employ people, not immigrants themselves that come here,
Britain's in many cases for years chose to be on the dole, because it was more viable to so so, where more to the point employers were crying out for help to fill place where many Brits chose to refuse to work.

Immigration should be controlled but not for the reasons you propose, because to propose only British is a form of apartheid.
British first, not only British. A sort of affirmative action type thing if you like. Without so many immigrants coming here(and it's not them I blame, it's successive governments since 1997 inflicting their social experiment on the public) and taking low level jobs, wages would gradually increase and Brits would start to fill those job vacancies. It's a chicken and egg thing, what came first the lazy Brits or the depressed wages and strangled job market? IMO it's a mix of both but continuing mass immigration like nothing's wrong is insane. And I'm far from alone which is why so many have switched their support from Liblabcon to UKIP.

What a load of garbage, so your view is me, me, me then?

The point should be on global world populations not you bemoaning people wanting to live on the land you live on yourself, that is pathetic and childish, because you think you have some right just being born here. Do you really have that right or has other people allowed you that right?
You see you argument has no logic, what you are saying is, you want to have the right to be selfish and not share the world, and that is pathetic

by Tommy Monk Sat May 31, 2014 9:17 am

We do enough sharing.
And children are taught to share with siblings and friends.
Not give away their toys to the whole bloody neighbourhood!!!
We are full.
The negative impacts of the huge numbers we already have here are more than evident.
You yourself claim to be a Tory and support the reduction to tens of thousands.
The public view is clear.....
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/britain-immigration-survey-idINDEEA0603G20140107
And people don't have to come here, they can just stay where they are or go somewhere else can't they????
It's a big world out there, but only a tiny island here.

by The Puzzler Sat May 31, 2014 9:18 am

Didge wrote:
The Puzzler wrote:
British first, not only British. A sort of affirmative action type thing if you like. Without so many immigrants coming here(and it's not them I blame, it's successive governments since 1997 inflicting their social experiment on the public) and taking low level jobs, wages would gradually increase and Brits would start to fill those job vacancies. It's a chicken and egg thing, what came first the lazy Brits or the depressed wages and strangled job market? IMO it's a mix of both but continuing mass immigration like nothing's wrong is insane. And I'm far from alone which is why so many have switched their support from Liblabcon to UKIP.

What a load of garbage, so your view is me, me, me then?

The point should be on global world populations not you bemoaning people wanting to live on the land you live on yourself, that is pathetic and childish, because you think you have some right just being born here. Do you really have that right or has other people allowed you that right?
You see you argument has no logic, what you are saying is, you want to have the right to be selfish and not share the world, and that is pathetic

Yes Didge I should have more of a right to a job than an immigrant, especially after 17 years of hyper inflated mass immigration and multicult social upheaval. I'm sorry that makes you chuck your toys out the pram but there it is. We've shared more than enough with the world and now it's time to put our people first, like the countries a lot of immigrants come from do.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:21 am

The Puzzler wrote:
Didge wrote:

What a load of garbage, so your view is me, me, me then?

The point should be on global world populations not you bemoaning people wanting to live on the land you live on yourself, that is pathetic and childish, because you think you have some right just being born here. Do you really have that right or has other people allowed you that right?
You see you argument has no logic, what you are saying is, you want to have the right to be selfish and not share the world, and that is pathetic
Yes Didge I should have more of a right to a job than an immigrant, especially after 17 years of hyper inflated mass immigration and multicult social upheaval. I'm sorry that makes you chuck your toys out the pram but there it is. We've shared more than enough with the world and now it's time to put our people first, like the countries a lot of immigrants come from do.

Dear me, more apartheid talk. So to you, you should have more of a right than someone better qualified and more experienced than you to do the job? Guess and glad you do not run a business with that logic.
So no toys being chucked out, that is your argument, my argument shows it is you throwing your dummy out over immigration, it shows you are being the child having the tantrum.
Shared more than enough by exploiting a quarter of the world with Imperialism?

Fuck me, you really a right dummy are you not?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:22 am

Here's the funny thing - Didge and Ben and whoever are calling anyone who complains about too much immigration racists. Look who's complaining now:

"...At first it was a trickle, but according to figures given to me by the local community centre, more than 900 Roma Slovak families now call it home. The influx of so many extra adults - and thousands of their children - means public services are struggling to cope and are ‘at breaking point’, according to locals.

Feelings are running high among people of all backgrounds - but what is striking is that some of the most outspoken are themselves immigrants or children of immigrants who came to Britain in earlier times. Mohammed Rashid, a 67-year-old market trader and landlord who settled in Page Hall from Pakistan half a century ago, expressed views that are typical. He said: ‘This is our area and we feel we are being pushed out by these new Roma people. There will be a riot here very soon. I fear that this place might blow up like an inferno. I want back the England I loved.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2644280/The-new-face-racial-tension-As-ex-Home-Secrteary-David-Blunkett-warns-clashes-Roma-locals-Sheffield-bitter-irony-previous-generation-immigrants-angriest.html#ixzz33HNo0bbP

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:25 am

Another failed argument from Tess, so now the daily mail also uses stupidity with association fallacy of some views people have.

Wow, score tess.

::D::

That does not show why we cannot share this world does it?
All that shows again is some views, what is needed then is people to actually take on board what they teach their own children, how to share.

by The Puzzler Sat May 31, 2014 9:31 am

Didge wrote:
The Puzzler wrote:
Yes Didge I should have more of a right to a job than an immigrant, especially after 17 years of hyper inflated mass immigration and multicult social upheaval. I'm sorry that makes you chuck your toys out the pram but there it is. We've shared more than enough with the world and now it's time to put our people first, like the countries a lot of immigrants come from do.

Dear me, more apartheid talk. So to you, you should have more of a right than someone better qualified and more experienced than you to do the job? Guess and glad you do not run a business with that logic.
So no toys being chucked out, that is our argument, my argument shows it is you throwing your dummy out over immigration, it shows you are being the child having the tantrum.
Shared more than enough by exploiting a quarter of the world with Imperialism?

Fuck me, you really a right dummy are you not?

I just knew a rant about the British empire was coming, you lefties really are predictable aren't you. Our empire was one of the most benign of a bad bunch, especially compared to the Ottoman empire and various Arab empires, and yet somehow we're to be punished for the sins of upper class imperialists who are all long dead. That's really what multiculturalism and mass immigration is all about, I'm glad you brought up that point as now the mask has well and truly slipped. And to top it off you resort to abuse, tell you what Didge come back and call me a dummy when you can actually speak English properly eh?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:33 am

Didge wrote:Another failed argument from Tess, so now the daily mail also uses stupidity with association fallacy of some views people have.

Wow, score tess.

::D::

That does not show why we cannot share this world does it?
All that shows again is some views, what is needed then is people to actually take on board what they teach their own children, how to share.

Surely not..... Association Fallacy! How fucking original.

Prat.

by The Puzzler Sat May 31, 2014 9:33 am

Didge wrote:Another failed argument from Tess, so now the daily mail also uses stupidity with association fallacy of some views people have.

Wow, score tess.

::D::

That does not show why we cannot share this world does it?
All that shows again is some views, what is needed then is people to actually take on board what they teach their own children, how to share.

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? Seriously, can anyone make sense of this crap? I think Didge is having a bit of a meltdown Laughing

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:35 am

Tesstacious wrote:
Didge wrote:Another failed argument from Tess, so now the daily mail also uses stupidity with association fallacy of some views people have.

Wow, score tess.

::D::

That does not show why we cannot share this world does it?
All that shows again is some views, what is needed then is people to actually take on board what they teach their own children, how to share.

Surely not..... Association Fallacy! How fucking original.

Prat.

Oh my another failed angry response from Tess, how original .

You need to stop being led by fear all your life love, it may help set you free to happiness and on that I wish you luck

So nobody able to say it is wrong to share our planet and that we must be selfish?

Nobody going to admit they are that selfish with their arguments?

No

Thought not

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:52 am

The Puzzler wrote:
Didge wrote:Another failed argument from Tess, so now the daily mail also uses stupidity with association fallacy of some views people have.

Wow, score tess.

::D::

That does not show why we cannot share this world does it?
All that shows again is some views, what is needed then is people to actually take on board what they teach their own children, how to share.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? Seriously, can anyone make sense of this crap? I think Didge is having a bit of a meltdown

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by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:57 am

Yep Tess at her best, not able to answer ha ha

::D::

Happy days

cheers

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:59 am

The Puzzler wrote:
Didge wrote:Another failed argument from Tess, so now the daily mail also uses stupidity with association fallacy of some views people have.

Wow, score tess.

::D::

That does not show why we cannot share this world does it?
All that shows again is some views, what is needed then is people to actually take on board what they teach their own children, how to share.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? Seriously, can anyone make sense of this crap? I think Didge is having a bit of a meltdown

Bless no answer to my points but incomprehensible English now, ha ha, read your post back

by nicko Sat May 31, 2014 10:06 am

It seems like being English, [not BRITISH] English people can not protest at the way their country is being over run by immigrants without some people calling them racist. the USA is a bloody site bigger than England and has a lot more room. As for England, you can't get a quart in a pint pot!!!

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:10 am

nicko wrote:It seems like being English, [not BRITISH] English people can not protest at the way their country is being over run by immigrants without some people calling them racist. the USA is a bloody site bigger than England and has a lot more room. As for England, you can't get a quart in a pint pot!!!

You can protest all you like Nicko, what you have to show is if your protesting views are valid.
As seen the arguments are selfish to peoples own needs and not of sharing, so why do we even bother to teach to share?
Seriously, I am laughing at how nobody can answer this simple point
Britain is only 7% urbanized, seriously, what is the bigger number 93% not urbanized or 7% urbanized?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:13 am

Didge wrote:
The Puzzler wrote:
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? Seriously, can anyone make sense of this crap? I think Didge is having a bit of a meltdown

Bless no answer to my points but incomprehensible English now, ha ha, read your post back

I think that was the point dear...

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:17 am

Tesstacious wrote:
Didge wrote:

Bless no answer to my points but incomprehensible English now, ha ha, read your post back
I think that was the point dear...

That he cannot write English?

I know, ha ha

What it showed was the real point is he had no real counter but to divert away from my points because he has no answer basically because he is very dim.
He knows, it.

So again no answer, is it wrong to share.

Any takers?

by nicko Sat May 31, 2014 10:20 am

It is wrong to share with people who are just takers, not all of course but many are.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:21 am

nicko wrote:It is wrong to share with people who are just takers, not all of course but many are.

Failed point, we have the same kind of people here already and you are making a point off some people an not all as a group, thus again using fear as an argument to deny collective ethic groups of people coming here.

by Tommy Monk Sat May 31, 2014 10:31 am

We already share the world.

ANd xe already have people here from every country in the world.

WE don't want or need any more immigrants.

And I'm still waiting for you to explain why we should have any more...????

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:38 am

Tommy Monk wrote:We already share the world.

ANd xe already have people here from every country in the world.

WE don't want or need any more immigrants.

And I'm still waiting for you to explain why we should have any more...????

You are saying you do not want to share the land you are lucky to be born unto with other people not born on this land, that is not sharing in any shape or form.
The problem is with a global population, which as seen is being selfish to say we should shut our doors, because as seen the world can and would replicate such selfish behaviour in kind. So are you willing to take the risk of 62 million lives in this country with a view to close the doors shut to everyone, when we already have such skilled shortages ?

I would not make such a bet, as you will no doubt lose

by nicko Sat May 31, 2014 10:41 am

Didge, I can't discuss immigration with you ,your mind set is that the more that come here the better our country will be. I just can't agree with that so il'l leave it to you to explain why you think our overcrowded towns and cities can take any more with out services breaking down.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:44 am

nicko wrote: Didge, I can't discuss immigration with you ,your mind set is that the more that come here the better our country will be. I just can't agree with that so il'l leave it to you to explain why you think our overcrowded towns and cities can take any more with out services breaking down.

I already answered you this on previous posts, which you failed to even answer, sonow you wish me to go back again and repeat these same points you cannot answer on global populations?
Behave Nicko, the world population is getting bigger and people being selfish to their own lands is not the answer to that problem

by The Puzzler Sat May 31, 2014 10:47 am

Didge wrote:
nicko wrote: Didge, I can't discuss immigration with you ,your mind set is that the more that come here the better our country will be. I just can't agree with that so il'l leave it to you to explain why you think our overcrowded towns and cities can take any more with out services breaking down.

I already answered you this on previous posts, which you failed to even answer, sonow you wish me to go back again and repeat these same points you cannot answer on global populations?
Behave Nicko, the world population is getting bigger and people being selfish to their own lands is not the answer to that problem

When are you planning on letting some immigrants live in your house then?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:49 am

The Puzzler wrote:
Didge wrote:

I already answered you this on previous posts, which you failed to even answer, sonow you wish me to go back again and repeat these same points you cannot answer on global populations?
Behave Nicko, the world population is getting bigger and people being selfish to their own lands is not the answer to that problem
When are you planning on letting some immigrants live in your house then?

Already have one, my wife, who is from South Africa.

Talk about yet again a daft counter, so now you are saying that immigrants expect people here to allow them rent free accommodation, when most actually privately rent?
Seriously, did you get knocked on your head as a baby?

by nicko Sat May 31, 2014 10:52 am

Didge, I am sorry you think I failed to answer some of you posts, but I am not on here all day, I do have another life [admittedly not as good as yours].

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