It is time to open our ears and listen; and to open our eyes and see. There must be no more denial.

"Over the last couple of days the news media has carried two stories that should make all of us in Europe wake up.  The first one was the shooting dead of 4 people at the Jewish Museum in Brussels, and the second was an attack on two Jewish men outside a Synagogue in Creteil, south-east of Paris. These are not isolated attacks. They follow on from the attacks that killed a teacher and three children in Toulouse, France in 2012 and a sharp rise in anti-Semitic attacks and rhetoric in Europe.  The murderous attack in Brussels and the wanton attack in France should not be seen in isolation. Instead they should be seen as a warning, and not only a warning to European Jews, but to everyone no matter what community they come from, who believes in freedom and justice.

Europe has a Jew-hating problem and the time has come to stop denying that there is a problem and where this problem is coming from. It is plain to see that although Europe has always had anti-Semitism, the amount and severity of recent attacks has risen along with the number of followers of Islam in Europe.

This problem cannot be solved by ignoring it, or joining happy clappy ‘interfaith’ groups or like Britain’s Liberal Judaism joining up with overt socialist Islamo-pandering organisations like Citizens UK. European Jew-hatred cannot be solved by expressions of sadness by politicians or finger-wagging by Christian Clerics or appeals for peace that will be ignored on the ground. It cannot be solved by earnest appeals for a political solution for the Middle East or giving money to Unite Against Fascism or by voting Labour.

It is no co-incidence that Jew-hatred has risen again like a zombie just as Islam has risen in Europe. It was Islam that killed or drove out Jews from the Arabian peninsula, it was Islam that kept Jews as second class citizens in medieval Al Andalus, it was Islam that murdered Jews in the 1920s in British Mandate Palestine and it was Islam that expelled Jews from Arab and other Muslim lands from 1948.Enough is enough.  The lies must stop, the denial must stop and we must admit where this problem is coming from and start to do something serious about it. We need to join together, Jew and non-Jew, atheist and religious, conservative or liberal and pour some political weed-killer on the poisonous seed of Islam that too many politicians mistakenly have allowed to grow like bindweed on European soil.  It was utter madness to import the ideology of Islam, an ideology that has for centuries encouraged hatred of Jews, into Europe so soon after European politicians and others pledged ‘Never Again’ following the Holocaust.  The phrase ‘from frying pan to fire’ comes to mind when I consider the stupidity of this particular action."

http://www.fahrenheit211.net/2014/05/26/it-is-time-to-open-our-ears-and-listen-and-to-open-our-eyes-and-see-there-must-be-no-more-denial/

Wow. That's a powerful piece.
You think it's an overreaction Tess, or not,

islam is a disease , i think those who join it are power crazy . The attraction to join islam cannot be for their peace loving reputation .

The so called religion of peace is more a regime of hatred and intolerance.

Double post, deleted.

eddie wrote:Wow. That's a powerful piece.
You think it's an overreaction Tess, or not,

Well the blog seems a bit anti-Islamist, so it's probably biased - but no less true though, even though it's covered up in the msn.

Tesstacious wrote:

eddie wrote:Wow. That's a powerful piece.
You think it's an overreaction Tess, or not,

Well the blog seems a bit anti-Islamist, so it's probably biased - but no less true though, even though it's covered up in the msn.

Just a bit...

"We see things not as they are but as we are" - Anais Nin

the truth shall set you free

lovedust wrote:

Tesstacious wrote:
Well the blog seems a bit anti-Islamist, so it's probably biased - but no less true though, even though it's covered up in the msn.

Just a bit...

"We see things not as they are but as we are" - Anais Nin

Hmmm - not familiar with the name so I googled it, expecting some deep philosopher or theosophist...

"Nin is hailed by many critics as one of the finest writers of female erotica."

Think I'll go with my blogger's views.

Ha ha!

Tesstacious wrote:

lovedust wrote:

Just a bit...

"We see things not as they are but as we are" - Anais Nin

Hmmm - not familiar with the name so I googled it, expecting some deep philosopher or theosophist...

"Nin is hailed by many critics as one of the finest writers of female erotica."

Think I'll go with my blogger's views.

That's fine.

Tesstacious wrote:

lovedust wrote:

Just a bit...

"We see things not as they are but as we are" - Anais Nin

Hmmm - not familiar with the name so I googled it, expecting some deep philosopher or theosophist...

"Nin is hailed by many critics as one of the finest writers of female erotica."

Think I'll go with my blogger's views.

Hmmm....donno.  Is female erotica really that much?  As far as I can see, erotica for females amounts to Harlequin Novels and Romance stories...



I note that she had to write erotica in order to make a living. So did Henry Miller and writers in the 1940s. Lonnie Barbarch has a PhD and also writes female erotica. Some of her essays are excellent.

Seems the writer of the article seems to neglect the far right hatred of Jews in the west that has been prevalent for centuries within Europe, now trying to scapegoat this solely onto Muslims. Nobody denies that is a problem with Muslim hatred of some Jews which has been born about because of Israeli policies, but no such policies has created the racial hatred by the Europeans, that was born from simple racism. I mean we have the Jobbik Party, Golden dawn the Sobvoda Party etc who all have active anti antisemitism views, which have no connection to Islam, so how does he explain the rise of antisemitism in these parties?

Didge wrote:Seems the writer of the article seems to neglect the far right hatred of Jews in the west that has been prevalent for centuries within Europe, now trying to scapegoat this solely onto Muslims. Nobody denies that is a problem with Muslim hatred of some Jews which has been born about because of Israeli policies, but no such policies has created the racial hatred by the Europeans, that was born from simple racism. I mean we have the Jobbik Party, Golden dawn the Sobvoda Party who all have active anti antisemitism views, which have no connection to Islam, so how does he explain the rise of antisemitism in these parties?

Isn't that a bit like someone getting blamed for say stabbing someone to death, and being acquitted because he knew someone else who stabbed someone.....

so you're saying in effect it's acceptable for muslims to murder Jews because other people do.

Tesstacious wrote:

lovedust wrote:

Just a bit...

"We see things not as they are but as we are" - Anais Nin

Hmmm - not familiar with the name so I googled it, expecting some deep philosopher or theosophist...

"Nin is hailed by many critics as one of the finest writers of female erotica."

Think I'll go with my blogger's views.

By happy coincidence it transpires that Nin's own source for the quotation was a deeply philosophical Jewish work. The full quote in context reads:

'Lilian was reminded of the Talmudic words:
"We do not see things as they are, but as we are".'

Tesstacious wrote:

Didge wrote:Seems the writer of the article seems to neglect the far right hatred of Jews in the west that has been prevalent for centuries within Europe, now trying to scapegoat this solely onto Muslims. Nobody denies that is a problem with Muslim hatred of some Jews which has been born about because of Israeli policies, but no such policies has created the racial hatred by the Europeans, that was born from simple racism. I mean we have the Jobbik Party, Golden dawn the Sobvoda Party who all have active anti antisemitism views, which have no connection to Islam, so how does he explain the rise of antisemitism in these parties?

Isn't that a bit like someone getting blamed for say stabbing someone to death, and being acquitted because he knew someone else who stabbed someone.....

so you're saying in effect it's acceptable for muslims to murder Jews because other people do.  

Hardly the case at all, there is a problem with some Muslim with anti-antisemitism, which is what the article is eluding to the only problem stemming from Muslims, with ignoring poor aggressive policies of Israel, or the fact antisemitism within the EU is rife from European itself. It is he trying to excuse Europeans of its long history of Jewish hatred, which it seems you are eluding to yourself.
Only the other year it was reported that 95% of attacks on Jews were committed by the far right in Germany, so why is he ignoring this century old problem and trying to shift the blame solely onto Muslims? I am stating there is a problem with some Muslims, he is trying to ignore the problem from the far right in the European nations, or do you not understand the difference Tess?
So I never made any claim to acceptability, you just did that whislt ignoring my point that far right parties that are antisemitic have made gains within he EU and yet you ignore that main point

lovedust wrote:

Tesstacious wrote:

Hmmm - not familiar with the name so I googled it, expecting some deep philosopher or theosophist...

"Nin is hailed by many critics as one of the finest writers of female erotica."

Think I'll go with my blogger's views.

By happy coincidence it transpires that Nin's own source for the quotation was a deeply philosophical Jewish work. The full quote in context reads:

'Lilian was reminded of the Talmudic words:
"We do not see things as they are, but as we are".'

Sorry Lovedust, I was only mucking about.   

Didge wrote:

Tesstacious wrote:

Isn't that a bit like someone getting blamed for say stabbing someone to death, and being acquitted because he knew someone else who stabbed someone.....

so you're saying in effect it's acceptable for muslims to murder Jews because other people do.  

Hardly the case at all, there is a problem with some Muslim with anti-antisemitism, which is what the article is eluding to the only problem stemming from Muslims, with ignoring poor aggressive policies of Israel, or the fact antisemitism within the EU is rife from European itself. It is he trying to excuse Europeans of its long history of Jewish hatred, which it seems you are eluding to yourself.
Only the other year it was reported that 95% of attacks on Jews were committed by the far right in Germany, so why is he ignoring this century old problem and trying to shift the blame solely onto Muslims? I am stating there is a problem with some Muslims, he is trying to ignore the problem from the far right in the European nations, or do you not understand the difference Tess?
So I never made any claim to acceptability, you just did that whislt ignoring my point that far right parties that are antisemitic have made gains within he EU and yet you ignore that main point

He's not ignoring the far right - if you'd bothered to read the link.

Tesstacious wrote:

Didge wrote:


Hardly the case at all, there is a problem with some Muslim with anti-antisemitism, which is what the article is eluding to the only problem stemming from Muslims, with ignoring poor aggressive policies of Israel, or the fact antisemitism within the EU is rife from European itself. It is he trying to excuse Europeans of its long history of Jewish hatred, which it seems you are eluding to yourself.
Only the other year it was reported that 95% of attacks on Jews were committed by the far right in Germany, so why is he ignoring this century old problem and trying to shift the blame solely onto Muslims? I am stating there is a problem with some Muslims, he is trying to ignore the problem from the far right in the European nations, or do you not understand the difference Tess?
So I never made any claim to acceptability, you just did that whislt ignoring my point that far right parties that are antisemitic have made gains within he EU and yet you ignore that main point

He's not ignoring the far right - if you'd bothered to read the link.

I did read the article, he is shifting most of the blame to Muslims and stating we are idiots to ignore this, whilst clearly ignoring the problems that exist with antisemitism within Europe.
So yes he is ignoring that

Didge wrote:

Tesstacious wrote:

He's not ignoring the far right - if you'd bothered to read the link.

I did read the article, he is shifting most of the blame to Muslims and stating we are idiots to ignore this, whilst clearly ignoring the problems that exist with antisemitism within Europe.
So yes he is ignoring that

No, he's not ignoring it - but you're clearly doing your usual and diverting the thread away from muslims murdering Jews.

Tesstacious wrote:

Didge wrote:



I did read the article, he is shifting most of the blame to Muslims and stating we are idiots to ignore this, whilst clearly ignoring the problems that exist with antisemitism within Europe.
So yes he is ignoring that

No, he's not ignoring it - but you're clearly doing your usual and diverting the thread away from muslims murdering Jews.

Sorry you are talking garbage again Tess, I admit there is a problem with Muslims, he is shifting the blame as to the problem being mainly from them, that is incorrect and because I show this to be in error you now try to excuse his poor article when you have no conception of the problem with antisemitism in Europe, mainly because you are daily anti Muslim yourself. I am not ignoring any problem, but as seen he is making out the problem is within mainly one are Muslims themselves, when the problem is within many areas and now make up bullshit because I have rubbished his article is why you are now pissed off 


Dr. Moshe Kantor, who presented the report, noted that 2011 saw an escalation in violence by Europe's militant far-Right, which is using social media platforms to spread its anti-Semitic agenda.

 
Such sites, he noted, perpetuate the notion of a supposed global "Jewish conspiracy" that is responsible for every international event.
 
Kantor warned that "Europe is a ticking time bomb. Anti-Semitism as well as hatred towards Jews and other minorities can erupt and sweep through Europe. Fighting anti-Semitism should be a value shared by all."
 
He identified what he called "two triggers" which he said had the most impact on the frequency and nature of hate crimes – the situation in the Middle East and internal European issues.

 
"Any developments in the Middle East – for instance, if Israel was to strike Iran – will have ramifications in Europe. Such a thing could spark grave anti-Semitism in every (European nation)."

 
Hatred towards Jewish communities across Europe, he added, is being underestimated by the governments. "About 20% of Germans harbor anti-Semitic notions. In smaller communities (throughout Europe) it's an overwhelming majority of 92% - and its not being dealt with. This is why it's so extremely dangerous.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4217671,00.html

BRUSSELS — Fear of rising anti-Semitism in Europe has prompted nearly a third of European Jews to consider emigration because they do not feel safe in their home country, according to a detailed survey of Jewish perceptions released Friday by a European Union agency that monitors discrimination and other violations of basic rights. The survey, by the bloc’s Fundamental Rights Agency, focused on eight countries that account for more than 90 percent of Europe’s Jewish population and found that “while member states have made sustained efforts to combat anti-Semitism, the problem is still widespread.”

the results of its survey suggest that prejudices traditionally associated with far-right nationalist political groups like those that collaborated with the Nazis during World War II have now spread to other segments of society and are increasingly driven by conflict in the Middle East rather than homegrown bigotry.Jewish groups in countries like France have long warned that Europe’s economic crisis, lingering prejudice and a surge of Muslim immigrants often hostile to Israel have stoked a revival of hostility toward Jews.

More than three-quarters of Jews with experience of anti-Semitic harassment who took part in the survey said they had not reported the incidents to the police.

Asked who they thought was responsible for such harassment, 27 percent of respondents said the perpetrators had “Muslim extremist views,” 22 percent said they had “left-wing political views” and 19 percent blamed people with “right-wing views.” More than three-quarters of respondents in Belgium and France, both of which have large populations of Muslim immigrants, identified anti-Semitism as a problem. Eighty percent of respondents in the two countries described immigration as a problem, too, suggesting tense relations between Jewish communities and recently arrived immigrants.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/europe/jews-in-europe-report-a-surge-in-anti-semitism.html?_r=0

Thanks Tess that just backed up my points and most attacks near 40% are polictical:

Asked who they thought was responsible for such harassment, 27 percent of respondents said the perpetrators had “Muslim extremist views,” 22 percent said they had “left-wing political views” and 19 percent blamed people with “right-wing views.

Anti-Semitism in Sweden Forces Jews to Question their Future

Rampant anti-Semitism in Sweden's third-largest city causing serious concern for local Jews. Perpetrators primarily Muslim immigrants.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/170448#.U4OOD3Zta2c

Tbf I wouldn't say Tess is mostly anti-Muslim.

Tesstacious wrote:Anti-Semitism in Sweden Forces Jews to Question their Future

Rampant anti-Semitism in Sweden's third-largest city causing serious concern for local Jews. Perpetrators primarily Muslim immigrants.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/170448#.U4OOD3Zta2c

[size=33]Jewish Groups Concerned Over Far-Right Surge in European Union Parliamentary Elections[/size]

Jewish groups expressed concern on Monday over the surge in support for far-right parties in the European Union’s parliamentary elections, with fears that hate speech will now feature more prominently in European politics.
On Monday, the EU said that of the 751 seats, the center-right European People’s Party won 214, followed by the center-left Socialists and Democrats with 189, while the far-right parties surged to win a combined 36 seats, giving them enough weight to influence debate and decision making in the EU body.
France’s National Front won 25 seats, Hungary’s notorious Jobbik party won four seats, Greece’s Golden Dawn, under criminal investigation and with several party leaders in prison, entered the European Parliament for the first time, with an expected three seats, and the far-right FPÖ in Austria won four seats.
Daniel Schwammenthal, director of the American Jewish Committee Transatlantic Institute, said, “These radical parties have been able to grow in their respective home countries for quite some time and are now cementing their presence also at the European level.”
“They must be confronted head-on or the danger will only continue to grow,” Schwammenthal said, adding their “presence in the legislature for the next five years will, at a minimum, provide a soapbox from which to propagate their vile hatred.”
French artist and humanitarian Ron Agam, son of Israeli painter Yaacov Agam, told The Algemeineron Monday, “The vote for the FN in France is a rupture with the past. Today French voters have endorsed a party that is essentially xenophobic, anti-Semitic and demagogically populist.”
“France’s democracy is in danger and the horizon for Jews is getting bleaker,” Agam said. “Jews in France are now sandwiched between a growing anti-Semitism from radical French Islamic elements and, now, an ever growing extreme right that will ultimately show its real face sooner or later.”

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/05/26/jewish-groups-concerned-over-far-right-surge-in-european-union-parliamentary-elections/

eddie wrote:Tbf I wouldn't say Tess is mostly anti-Muslim.

Yes she is, she posts daily views on Muslims and articles, even here she cannot see a dual problem with far right and Muslim extremists, she tries to only point to Muslims.

it is clear that islam is the problem , they are doing what their book tells them

lol

Vicar of Dibley wrote:it is clear that islam is the problem , they are doing what their book tells them

One of the things "their book tells them" is to respect and revere Jesus as one of God's greatest messengers.

Amen to that

Didge wrote:

eddie wrote:Tbf I wouldn't say Tess is mostly anti-Muslim.

Yes she is, she posts daily views on Muslims and articles, even here she cannot see a dual problem with far right and Muslim extremists, she tries to only point to Muslims.

No dear, I've simply countered your usual diversionary tactics of posting articles placing the blame totally on the far right, as if that makes the muslims' anti-semitism, which is pretty blatant, acceptable. If a non-muslim attacks anyone you're all on them like a ton of bricks, but if it's a muslim that's doing any evil deeds you all cough behind your hands and pretend it isn't happening. That's why I'll continue to post stuff that pisses you off, because that old elephant in the room won't go away just because you refuse to see it.

Tesstacious wrote:

Didge wrote:



Yes she is, she posts daily views on Muslims and articles, even here she cannot see a dual problem with far right and Muslim extremists, she tries to only point to Muslims.

No dear, I've simply countered your usual diversionary tactics of posting articles placing the blame totally on the far right, as if that makes the muslims' anti-semitism, which is pretty blatant, acceptable.  If a non-muslim attacks anyone you're all on them like a ton of bricks, but if it's a muslim that's doing any evil deeds you all cough behind your hands and pretend it isn't happening.  That's why I'll continue to post stuff that pisses you off, because that old elephant in the room won't go away just because you refuse to see it.

What articles that blame the far right?

Fuck me, that was an own goal Tess, it has everything to do with the fact you see Muslims as a threat because of Islam, at least have the decency to admit it, as others argue on here, I actually like will say if there is a problem with Muslims of which there is with antisemitism, it was you which tried to diminish the far right link just as the article did by claiming this was more an Islamic problem in Europe, which as seen was complete bollocks. To top that off you insult my intelligence to claim it is response to me posting articles on the far right (cannot even remember the last one I did post ha ha), what a load of bollocks, so you are thus saying then you support the far right then? In fact please post these threads which I use to counter your so called claim? Over yo you.????



Sorry nice try Tess, but some people are not stupid and see you post anti Muslim articles all the time, it is not a problem to even admit you do, why you try to hide that is beyond me.

lovedust wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:it is clear that islam is the problem , they are doing what their book tells them

One of the things "their book tells them" is to respect and revere Jesus as one of God's greatest messengers.

Amen to that

no they disrespect Jesus they deny he is the son of God , so you couldn't be more wrong

Amen  ::D:: 

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

lovedust wrote:

One of the things "their book tells them" is to respect and revere Jesus as one of God's greatest messengers.

Amen to that

no they disrespect Jesus they deny he is the son of God , so you couldn't be more wrong

Amen  ::D:: 

Hmm, no. They regard him as a holy prophet, which may mean they regard him more highly than atheists, agnostics, buddhists et al.