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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 7:58 pm


Ukip councillor under investigation over racist and homophobic comments
Newly elected Redditch councillor Dave Small referred to gay people as perverts and African immigrants as scroungers



Nigel Farage is dealing with fresh allegations of racism and homophobia in his party only days after the local and European elections as Ukip was forced to launch an investigation into comments made by one of its newly elected councillors.

Dave Small, who was elected to Redditch borough council on Friday, faces being kicked out of the party for referring to gay people as "perverts" and African immigrants as "scroungers".

In comments posted on Facebook, he also attacked BBC broadcaster Clare Balding and singer Elton John over their sexuality and referred to "our sworn enemies in the Muslim world".

Stonewall's acting chief executive, Ruth Hunt, condemned the comments, saying Ukip would be "judged by the company they keep".

She said: "These reprehensible views have no place in modern Britain. We hope the party leadership reviews these comments as a matter of urgency."

A Ukip spokesman said the party's national executive committee would look into the posts and decide what action to take. Similar offences in the past have seen members kicked out of the party.

The spokesman said: "All Ukip members and councillors are expected to uphold the values of the party. Where there are allegations that that has not been the case, there is an established disciplinary procedure, which is under the auspices of the national executive committee. We will certainly look at this case."

The spokesman added that there were already "quite a few cases pending".

Small's Ukip colleague Stuart Cross, who represents Redditch South on Worcester county council, said Small was "not wanted" and should resign over the comments. He tweeted: "If the new cllr has said that. Then he gets no support from me. He should resign without hesitation as those views are disgraceful."

In a post on his Facebook account last June entitled Britain used to be for the British, Small wrote: "Our once great country has become the dust bin for all the world wide money grabbing scum."

He added: "Why on earth is this useless Goverment pandering to Puffs? I refuse to call them gays, as what has gay to do with Perverts like Elton John and Clair Balding who get their jollies in such disgusting ways. to sum up, they should not allowed to be married, they should go back to the closet."

In February 2013, he referred to gay people as "perverts" and expressed opposition to "poofs and dykes" being allowed to marry. And he predicted that "thousends mor scroungers" would soon arrive in the UK from Mali as a result of a range of coalition government policies.

Small also complained in a November 2012 post that he was not allowed to use the term "Paki". And, in June that year, he wrote: "I visiting the city of Birmingham recently and felt like a foreigner in the city of my birth, all around me I could hear the sound of jabbering in an alien voice … we also have the Pakistani' and the Somali's. Tell me Mr Cameron Why? the men wear their Pyjamas."

His comments are just the latest to cause problems for Farage. In February this year, Ukip councillor David Silvester was kicked out of the party for saying that gay marriage was to blame for the storms that lashed Britain last winter.

Farage himself faced criticism after insisting that people would be justified in worrying about Romanians moving in next door. And, in April, Ukip donor Demetri Marchessini told Channel 4 News that a man could never rape his wife because "once a woman accepts, she accepts".

Last week, BBC News' Jasmine Lawrence was removed from the corporation's election coverage after tweeting a derogatory comment about Ukip as the country was about to go to the polls.

The party made gains in the local elections, prompting Farage to claim that the "Ukip fox is in the Westminster hen house". But the BBC's projected national share figure showed Ukip got less than the 23% it had in council elections last year. Moreover, the party does not control any local authorities.

Anti-Ukip campaigers Still Laughing at the UK Independence Party said Dave Small was "another example in a long list of Ukip candidates who, having just been elected as a councillor, reveals himself on Facebook as a racist and a homophobe".

Small did not respond to a request for comment.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/24/ukip-councillor-investigation-racist-homophobic-facebook-comments


That's the type of person people voted for!




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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 8:09 pm

Honestly, this party seems to be made up of a right racist, anti gay bunch if loudmouth yobs..

They are in the press every week for the wrong reasons...

What a self centred little bunch of fools , representing g mainly racist and hate.

An absolute embarrassment...

I say they be known as ' the chav party'. Laughing 

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 8:17 pm

It disgusts me that people voted for them.

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Post by eddie Sat May 24, 2014 8:18 pm

Ok firstly I daresay the people who voted for him never realised he had said those things.
Secondly, let's hope he gets sacked tout suite!

Thirdly, how stupid are people who are in the public eye when they say things that are going to get them in the shit!!  Rolling Eyes 
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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 8:42 pm

more and more mud slinging, politicians do and say all sorts of stupid things...

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 8:53 pm

and David Cameron is a liar one minute giving a referendum and taking it back once he got in power ,all of them idiots living off us who fund their lifestyle , none of them give a shit about us as long as we keep lining their pockets, so whoever is in power it is never in the interest of us

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 8:55 pm

:aspukeas: :aspukeas: :aspukeas: 

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 9:18 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:and David Cameron is a liar one minute giving a referendum and taking it back once he got in power ,all of them idiots living off us who fund their lifestyle , none of them give a shit about us as long as we keep lining their pockets, so whoever is in power it is never in the interest of us

that's true cameron promised a referendem on europe, if they got it and then just ignored it, now he's trying the same crap again...

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 9:21 pm

lets face it down say anything against the gays or the blacks but we don't mind if you lie through your teeth and rob the country blind and give our sovereignty away...

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 9:23 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lets face it down say anything against the gays or the blacks but we don't mind if you lie through your teeth and rob the country blind and give our sovereignty away...



Odd as people do mind and say openly if the bankers were robbing the country, so people who are dickheads to be discriminating against groups of ethnic, sexual or religious people are twats, plain and simple, nobody tells people off for having goes at the banks or that they are wrong to do so

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 9:30 pm




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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 9:31 pm

well no one seemed to mind that someone who robbed the tax payers of 355 grand payed back 5 grand and it was ok, any mention of jail or paying the rest back, no and why, because if they clamp down on one they could expect it on the rest when they are finally caught...

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 9:33 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:well no one seemed to mind that someone who robbed the tax payers of 355 grand payed back 5 grand and it was ok, any mention of jail or paying the rest back, no and why, because if they clamp down on one they could expect it on the rest when they are finally caught...



People do mind and have commented on this countless times, many also believe some of them should be going to jail, that though should not deflect from people in office saying such hateful things towards groups of people, you are poorly trying to excuse it

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:08 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:well no one seemed to mind that someone who robbed the tax payers of 355 grand payed back 5 grand and it was ok, any mention of jail or paying the rest back, no and why, because if they clamp down on one they could expect it on the rest when they are finally caught...



People do mind and have commented on this countless times, many also believe some of them should be going to jail, that though should not deflect from people in office saying such hateful things towards groups of people, you are poorly trying to excuse it

wow should go to jail, how many have been caught for it, including the second home that turns out to be their parents..lol... how many have been jailed or even payed back what they stole..

how many condemned the muslim court that set a death sentence on a pregnant woman, good intentions and words are worth jack shit, action is what people want and that is what the UKIP vote has been about..

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:12 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:



People do mind and have commented on this countless times, many also believe some of them should be going to jail, that though should not deflect from people in office saying such hateful things towards groups of people, you are poorly trying to excuse it

wow should go to jail, how many have been caught for it, including the second home that turns out to be their parents..lol... how many have been jailed or even payed back what they stole..

how many condemned the muslim court that set a death sentence on a pregnant woman, good intentions and words are worth jack shit, action is what people want and that is what the UKIP vote has been about..



All irrelevant, you are as stated trying to excuse people being racist and homophobic off a straw man argument.

You also need to grow up and start acting like a Christian, a person who loves all.

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:17 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

wow should go to jail, how many have been caught for it, including the second home that turns out to be their parents..lol... how many have been jailed or even payed back what they stole..

how many condemned the muslim court that set a death sentence on a pregnant woman, good intentions and words are worth jack shit, action is what people want and that is what the UKIP vote has been about..



All irrelevant, you are as stated trying to excuse people being racist and homophobic off a straw man argument.

You also need to grow up and start acting like a Christian, a person who loves all.

lol straw man, tell me how many politicians have been jailed even when everyone knows they have stolen from the tax payer...lol

Christian , as did Christ stand up for what is right not what is pc, Jesus would be considered the most un Pc person of his time, you allegedly turned your back on Christianity, lol..as if, so do not tell me how to follow my faith...

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:21 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:



All irrelevant, you are as stated trying to excuse people being racist and homophobic off a straw man argument.

You also need to grow up and start acting like a Christian, a person who loves all.

lol straw man, tell me how many politicians have been jailed even when everyone knows they have stolen from the tax payer...lol

Christian , as did Christ stand up for what is right not what is pc, Jesus would be considered the most un Pc person of his time, you allegedly turned your back on Christianity, lol..as if, so do not tell me how to follow my faith...



Now very strawman argument

Many people back the view bankers should have been jailed, they are not bashed for doing so, hence your point is utterly moot. 
Funny that you do not follow the views of Jesus with love, it shows you fail to be Christian, because you do not follow his message of love, shame really and I live in the hope one day you might start to be Christian, it takes more than belief as Christ expected many things of those who followed him .

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:26 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

lol straw man, tell me how many politicians have been jailed even when everyone knows they have stolen from the tax payer...lol

Christian , as did Christ stand up for what is right not what is pc, Jesus would be considered the most un Pc person of his time, you allegedly turned your back on Christianity, lol..as if, so do not tell me how to follow my faith...



Now very strawman argument

Many people back the view bankers should have been jailed, they are not bashed for doing so, hence your point is utterly moot. 
Funny that you do not follow the views of Jesus with love, it shows you fail to be Christian, because you do not follow his message of love, shame really and I live in the hope one day you might start to be Christian, it takes more than belief as Christ expected many things of those who followed him .

again, same argument from you didge, many people said those politicians who stole from the tax payers, were very bad people and should go to jail, again how many went to jail or even payed the stolen money back...

but of course saying gays aren't nice or we need to control our borders is far worse...lol

message of love, you brood of vipers..lol was that out of love, Jesus was not afraid to say what he meant and correct what was wrong... Smile 

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:31 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:



Now very strawman argument

Many people back the view bankers should have been jailed, they are not bashed for doing so, hence your point is utterly moot. 
Funny that you do not follow the views of Jesus with love, it shows you fail to be Christian, because you do not follow his message of love, shame really and I live in the hope one day you might start to be Christian, it takes more than belief as Christ expected many things of those who followed him .

again, same argument from you didge, many people said those politicians who stole from the tax payers, were very bad people and should go to jail, again how many went to jail or even payed the stolen money back...

but of course saying gays aren't nice or we need to control our borders is far worse...lol

message of love, you brood of vipers..lol was that out of love, Jesus was not afraid to say what he meant and correct what was wrong... Smile 


I do not control the law but many should have gone to jail, so again exposing your moot argument which again poorly deflects away trying to excuse people being racist and homophobic in positions of national office.

Why would you say gays are not nice, that is very pathetic, so why try to excuse saying it, nobody is bothered that you say our borders need controlling either.

Jesus was about love, are you now trying to say he also advocated evil to people?

You really dig your own hole everytime you post

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Post by Fluffyx Sat May 24, 2014 10:32 pm

Aren't Christians meant to be..Christian in their outlook?
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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:34 pm

FluffyBunny wrote:Aren't Christians meant to be..Christian in their outlook?


Yep.....x

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:37 pm

FluffyBunny wrote:Aren't Christians meant to be..Christian in their outlook?

if you can get the audio version of the bible check it out, i wouldn't bother trying to read it with your level of education... Smile 

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Post by Fluffyx Sat May 24, 2014 10:41 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
FluffyBunny wrote:Aren't Christians meant to be..Christian in their outlook?

if you can get the audio version of the bible check it out, i wouldn't bother trying to read it with your level of education... Smile 

Good idea,a nice fairy tale before bed. Thanks. lol! 
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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:42 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
FluffyBunny wrote:Aren't Christians meant to be..Christian in their outlook?

if you can get the audio version of the bible check it out, i wouldn't bother trying to read it with your level of education... Smile 


Well as seen she understands what it means to be Christian more than you, thus education is something you must lack

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:44 pm

Didge wrote:
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if you can get the audio version of the bible check it out, i wouldn't bother trying to read it with your level of education... Smile 


Well as seen she understands what it means to be Christian more than you, thus education is something you must lack

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lol she understand nothing clearly..lol

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Post by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 10:46 pm

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Well as seen she understands what it means to be Christian more than you, thus education is something you must lack

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lol she understand nothing clearly..lol

Clearly shes understands very well, unlike yourself.

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Well as seen she understands what it means to be Christian more than you, thus education is something you must lack

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lol she understand nothing clearly..lol

I understand that Christians are supposed to be loving and tolerant and you are seemingly anything but...!
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FluffyBunny wrote:
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lol she understand nothing clearly..lol

I understand that Christians are supposed to be loving and tolerant and you are seemingly anything but...!

Lol, read the bible, sorry, listen to the bible again, Jesus was very un PC...

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heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
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I understand that Christians are supposed to be loving and tolerant and you are seemingly anything but...!

Lol, read the bible, sorry, listen to the bible again, Jesus was very un PC...


So you are saying Jesus was not about love then..

Oh my, thank goodness I am signing off, cannot stop myself from laughing at so much drivel from you.
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Didge wrote:
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Lol, read the bible, sorry, listen to the bible again, Jesus was very un PC...


So you are saying Jesus was not about love then..

Oh my, thank goodness I am signing off, cannot stop myself from laughing at so much drivel from you.
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I wonder who didge will come back as, this should be good... Smile 

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Post by eddie Sat May 24, 2014 10:56 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
FluffyBunny wrote:

I understand that Christians are supposed to be loving and tolerant and you are seemingly anything but...!

Lol, read the bible, sorry, listen to the bible again, Jesus was very un PC...

Actually I'm not one for religion or Jesus tbh, but I believe he existed and was a "nice guy" who tried to spread love in troubled times.

Not sure what that has to do with owt but that's my view for what it's worth.
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heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
FluffyBunny wrote:

I understand that Christians are supposed to be loving and tolerant and you are seemingly anything but...!

Lol, read the bible, sorry, listen to the bible again, Jesus was very un PC...

If you are stating that your God is neither loving or tolerant why would you worship him?
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Didge wrote:
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Lol, read the bible, sorry, listen to the bible again, Jesus was very un PC...


So you are saying Jesus was not about love then..

Oh my, thank goodness I am signing off, cannot stop myself from laughing at so much drivel from you.
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Goodnight Didge x Smile I'm away also.
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So you are saying Jesus was not about love then..

Oh my, thank goodness I am signing off, cannot stop myself from laughing at so much drivel from you.
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I wonder who didge will come back as, this should be good... Smile 


As Didge, as not leaving the forum, ha ha ha seriously, are you smoking crack tonight?

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So you are saying Jesus was not about love then..

Oh my, thank goodness I am signing off, cannot stop myself from laughing at so much drivel from you.
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Goodnight Didge x Smile I'm away also.


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FluffyBunny wrote:
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Lol, read the bible, sorry, listen to the bible again, Jesus was very un PC...

If you are stating that your God is neither loving or tolerant why would you worship him?

lol, i'm not saying either, you are, though you should really check it out for yourself before you debate it... Smile 

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Am I still edds then?
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Didge wrote:
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I wonder who didge will come back as, this should be good... Smile 


As Didge, as not leaving the forum, ha ha ha seriously, are you smoking crack tonight?

i didn't expect you to leave the forum, well not till you spit your dummy out again, i merely wondered which id you would come back as...

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Post by Guest Sun May 25, 2014 12:13 am

FA - given Jesus preached a gospel of universal love and peace, do I take it you're unable to back up your claim that "Jesus was very un-PC..."?

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Post by Guest Sun May 25, 2014 12:30 am

lol you brood of vipers ...yeah sounds like universal, love and peace, white washed tombs full of dead mens bones, yep PC...

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heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol you brood of vipers ...yeah sounds like universal, love and peace, white washed tombs full of dead mens bones, yep PC...

Your reply appears to make little sense... suffice it to say Jesus was *profoundly* protective of vulnerable peoples.

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lovedust wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol you brood of vipers ...yeah sounds like universal, love and peace, white  washed tombs full of dead mens bones, yep PC...

Your reply appears to make little sense... suffice it to say Jesus was *profoundly* protective of vulnerable peoples.

no you are so wrong, Jesus did preach love and peace but he also stood against anything that was wrong....

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Post by Guest Sun May 25, 2014 5:43 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
lovedust wrote:

Your reply appears to make little sense... suffice it to say Jesus was *profoundly* protective of vulnerable peoples.

no you are so wrong, Jesus did preach love and peace but he also stood against anything that was wrong....

I guess having a family was wrong then to Jesus.
So to you Jesus was not really about love and according to the bible he will return and unleash hell on earth killing millions and you moan about Islam?
How odd indeed

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Post by Fluffyx Sun May 25, 2014 10:53 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
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If you are stating that your God is neither loving or tolerant why would you worship him?

lol, i'm not saying either, you are, though you should really check it out for yourself before you debate it... Smile 

Actually I'm not saying that. Jesus is depicted in the New Testament as being very loving and tolerant so you claiming he is 'very un PC ' is a point I was hoping you would elaborate on.
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Post by Guest Sun May 25, 2014 12:23 pm

FluffyBunny wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

lol, i'm not saying either, you are, though you should really check it out for yourself before you debate it... Smile 

Actually I'm not saying that. Jesus is depicted in the New Testament as being very loving and tolerant so you claiming he is 'very un PC ' is a point I was hoping you would elaborate on.

check out the bible about his dealings with the Pharisee and the Sadducee and you might see what I mean, the part about finding the money lenders in the temple is quite enlightening too...

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Post by Guest Sun May 25, 2014 2:27 pm

...was the sad-u-see a really down in the doldrums kind of person Favva?  ::troll:: 

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Post by Guest Sun May 25, 2014 2:31 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
FluffyBunny wrote:

Actually I'm not saying that. Jesus is depicted in the New Testament as being very loving and tolerant so you claiming he is 'very un PC ' is a point I was hoping you would elaborate on.

check out the bible about his dealings with the Pharisee and the Sadducee and you might see what I mean, the part about finding the money lenders in the temple is quite enlightening too...

Those passages don't support your claim that Jesus was very un PC, which remains nonsensical...

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Post by Guest Sun May 25, 2014 4:05 pm

lovedust wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

check out the bible about his dealings with the Pharisee and the Sadducee and you might see what I mean, the part about finding the money lenders in the temple is quite enlightening too...  

Those passages don't support your claim that Jesus was very un PC, which remains nonsensical...

what, they were the religious leaders and leaders of the law at the time, among the most respected in the Jewish community and Jesus constantly spoke against them and their hypocrisy... was that love and tolerance, at least look in to a subject before you enter a debate claiming to know something...

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Post by Guest Sun May 25, 2014 4:08 pm

Everyone just needs to start voting Labour!!!Smile

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